Is the World "Round" or "Flat"?

[hayley2003]

in my media class this question came up because we are studying persuasion techniques, convincing people to believe something is true, when it is really false or vice-versa, or whatever! :P

https://www.tfes.org/

or

VNqNnUJVcVs

i also learned about poe's law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Posts merged, please edit next time. ~Endeavour

[Stronk Serb]

Earth being flat makes no sense tbh. If it were true, I could see the Andes and Mount Everest from the top of my apartment building.

[NineTails]

The horizon exists purely because of the Earth's spherical shape. That's evidence enough, really. Otherwise, the fact that we've actually been to space and saw the Earth's shape (Crew on the ISS see it daily) is basically a "There is nothing you can do to prove that Earth is flat" sort of thing going on.

[Sailor Mars]

The Earth is an oblate spheroid.

[mattsmith48]

They are people debating climate change, debating the Earth is flat is not that different.

[Fritz]

They are people debating climate change, debating the Earth is flat is not that different.

Im only 13 so i may not be the wisest of people out there, but i believe the what the scientists say about the earth being round, and that climate change is real

[Axrow]

It has to be round

[Max the Disenchanter]

earth is flat in the sense that i can communicate to anyone in the world without leaving my room

[Abyssal Echo]

It's a proven tact that if you spend enough time and money you with the power of the media you can convince people (sheepeople) just about anything.... doesn't matter if its true or not.
Oh btw the world is round.

[NewLeafsFan]

I would be horrified if someone answered this question flat

[hayley2003]

It's a proven tact that if you spend enough time and money you with the power of the media you can convince people (sheepeople) just about anything.... doesn't matter if its true or not.
Oh btw the world is round.

yeah, that true. we talked about that in class at school. what is kinda also true, is people don't need to be rich anymore because of the internet. now a single crazy person can do all kinds of crazy things on the internet that before only crazy rich people or companies could do.

in class we can talk about things we have seen on the internet, but we can't talk about how to do things like that. some guys at school have done some pretty crazy things because they know how, but they can't say how they did it, at least not in class.

[Sword of the morning]

Its very round we have known this for thousands of years. I don't know how people could think it's flat.

[Lillynet]

Well the earth is round but still people in 21st century believe tha t the earth is flat xD

[Reezeee]

The flat earth society is a hilarous website you should go check out lol

[Babs]

i know there are some obscure online communities of people that do but besides them who really thinks the earth is flat tho? it's a meme, not a debate.

[mattsmith48]

i know there are some obscure online communities of people that do but besides them who really thinks the earth is flat tho? it's a meme, not a debate.

Kyrie Irving

[SethfromMI]

Neither the earth is cubed)

(the last time I mad this joke to people, I had to let them know I was joking and agreed the earth was round, because it is).

[german_boy]

Im only 13 so i may not be the wisest of people out there, but i believe the what the scientists say about the earth being round, and that climate change is real

you're wiser and more mature than your president :D

[Uniquemind]

in my media class this question came up because we are studying persuasion techniques, convincing people to believe something is true, when it is really false or vice-versa, or whatever! :P

https://www.tfes.org/

or

VNqNnUJVcVs

i also learned about poe's law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Posts merged, please edit next time. ~Endeavour



I really disagree with a class that is teaching others how to deceive others.

But the answer of how people persuade other people, is a dangerously powerful art.

It all comes down to a mix of psychology, biology, and epistemology (the philosophical study of how we attain knowledge).

My view on it, is that people have poor communication skills, everything is a game of telephone and the way language is spoken and written is not transparent enough to convey a true message. This is why people can misunderstand each other and chaos can begin from that point of misunderstanding.

Reading body language is another, and comparing that with what is verbally uttered...can be contradictory right? Some will sense this others won't.


But a fact of life is that most people hate thinking, they go for easy answers and for the few that know this, they'll hide the true message in a mental space that requires more effort to get too.

Conspiracy theorists sound smart, and they might be, but in actuality they abandon a system of rigorous thinking, to believe the unbelievable without a logical explanation and often lack the means to explain their justification for why they did use different mental criteria in say their professional job, but when it comes to believing a conspiracy theory they aren't as rigorous in vetting the facts.

People who fashion conspiracy theories or marketing know the point in which to hook an audience in within the context of telling a fancy story and balance the smart-sounding-talk, while also hiding the facts from view.


Do people want to be lied too and kept emotionally happy and feel good? Or do they want to be told the truth even if it means sending them down an emotionally sad and hard path.

Most people take the former option, and that's how humanity has en mass used persuasion in a predatory way.

[thomas2003]

i go crazy at the trolls at school sayin the earth is flat..its round we know it.

[PlasmaHam]

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/wire/legacy/1680x1050_discworld-terry-pratchett-wallpaper-e1367902680361.jpg
Don't deny it, you know this is actually how the world exists. The Illuminati has been tainting our drinking water with mind-control drugs to blind it to us, but there are some that know the truth! The Great A'Tuin shall not be denied the glory it deserves!

#TheTruthisOutThere

[mattsmith48]

image (http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/wire/legacy/1680x1050_discworld-terry-pratchett-wallpaper-e1367902680361.jpg)
Don't deny it, you know this is actually how the world exists. The Illuminati has been tainting our drinking water with mind-control drugs to blind it to us, but there are some that know the truth! The Great A'Tuin shall not be denied the glory it deserves!

#TheTruthisOutThere

The sun is not at the right spot for the light on the Earth and the moon is round if the Earth is flat shouldn't the moon be also flat? I know its meant as a joke but come on.

[Fritz]

Come on guys, we all know its round, a sphere to be specific.

[mattsmith48]

Come on guys, we all know its round, a sphere to be specific.

Actually if we are being specific its an oblate spheroid.

[Fritz]

Actually if we are being specific its an oblate spheroid.

Um actually if we were being technical, we live in a simulation :)

[Dmaxd123]

I really disagree with a class that is teaching others how to deceive others.

But the answer of how people persuade other people, is a dangerously powerful art.

It all comes down to a mix of psychology, biology, and epistemology (the philosophical study of how we attain knowledge).

My view on it, is that people have poor communication skills, everything is a game of telephone and the way language is spoken and written is not transparent enough to convey a true message. This is why people can misunderstand each other and chaos can begin from that point of misunderstanding.

Reading body language is another, and comparing that with what is verbally uttered...can be contradictory right? Some will sense this others won't.


But a fact of life is that most people hate thinking, they go for easy answers and for the few that know this, they'll hide the true message in a mental space that requires more effort to get too.

Conspiracy theorists sound smart, and they might be, but in actuality they abandon a system of rigorous thinking, to believe the unbelievable without a logical explanation and often lack the means to explain their justification for why they did use different mental criteria in say their professional job, but when it comes to believing a conspiracy theory they aren't as rigorous in vetting the facts.

People who fashion conspiracy theories or marketing know the point in which to hook an audience in within the context of telling a fancy story and balance the smart-sounding-talk, while also hiding the facts from view.


Do people want to be lied too and kept emotionally happy and feel good? Or do they want to be told the truth even if it means sending them down an emotionally sad and hard path.

Most people take the former option, and that's how humanity has en mass used persuasion in a predatory way.



on one hand i can see how you could look at the class and say it's teaching people to deceive others, but I would also hope that the class is teaching the students to think outside the box. even if we KNOW something, try to understand WHY the other person may be thinking that way.

then the students learn to have an open mind and also to THINK not just follow

[Sina-B]

The earth is round, but the moon landing of the americans never existed

[Uniquemind]

on one hand i can see how you could look at the class and say it's teaching people to deceive others, but I would also hope that the class is teaching the students to think outside the box. even if we KNOW something, try to understand WHY the other person may be thinking that way.

then the students learn to have an open mind and also to THINK not just follow

An epistemology class does a better job of analyzing the methods of how the human brain and society accumulates knowledge and then claims to know what they know.

It asks the main question, what does it mean to know something? That's worth more exploration and makes one do out of the box thinking more so than what a marketing class does.

No offense, but my original point still stands.

[Nikki_1]

The Earth is an oblate spheroid.

I totally agree :)

Anyone that can come up with an answer like that has my vote!!!

[hayley2003]

if the world is be a round oblate spheroid, and not a flat round disc, why are the so many people (millions and millions) believe that it is a huge hoax?

[ShineintheDark]

if the world is be a round oblate spheroid, and not a flat round disc, why are the so many people (millions and millions) believe that it is a huge hoax?

Because for every statement there is always gonna be at least one person who questions it, even if it has been proven to be true countless times (as is their right of course, as an equal contributor to the discussion).

In short, there's no fixing stupid ;P

[hayley2003]

Because for every statement there is always gonna be at least one person who questions it, even if it has been proven to be true countless times (as is their right of course, as an equal contributor to the discussion).

In short, there's no fixing stupid ;P

i find it funny and interesting that so many people really think its flat. they are obviously wrong, but i don't think they are stupid, at least not stupid like they are unable to understand, its more like they don't want to beleive it round for some reason, and they have made themselves think its flat. just very very weird.

[Shiny Moon]

Some people are just blind to the truth, or don't want to recognize what's right in front of them.

[breaux]

Only thing I can think is, if it was flat, then where is the edge?

[hayley2003]

Only thing I can think is, if it was flat, then where is the edge?

that's a good question. on youtube, there are some very serious answers to that question, and those answers seem reasonable, but my science teacher explained that the videos often ignore specific facts that make their theory fall apart, or they explain it away by suggesting that the unexplainable is part of conspiracy to hide the truth.

[breaux]

that's a good question. on youtube, there are some very serious answers to that question, and those answers seem reasonable, but my science teacher explained that the videos often ignore specific facts that make their theory fall apart, or they explain it away by suggesting that the unexplainable is part of conspiracy to hide the truth. Yup. Theories like these, if earth is round or flat won't be settled any time soon, one can keep discussing this with someone, and never concluding anything because of the endless denial and ignoring. :P

[TheMagicPotato]

If the earth is round, then, why do I walk from a point to another in a FLAT, STRAIGHT WAY, and I do not feel like I'm walking over a sphere?

Check mate, atheists.

Joking, there is scientific proof that the Earth is round.

[lliam]

doesn't really matter to me, as long Earth is a good place to live.

[WorriIsBorri]

The world's round, of course. I would point fingers at "People who want to feel like they know more than the sheeple" for the absurd conclusion that it isn't.

[Drewboyy]

Flat. If the Earth was truly round then my car would constantly be rolling away from me instead of staying parked.

[Stronk Serb]

Flat. If the Earth was truly round then my car would constantly be rolling away from me instead of staying parked.

Or you could just raise the hand brake >.>

In all seriousness, people who believe that the earth is flat have some sort of problem. Not saying they are stupid or anything, but a problem of reaching facts.

[lliam]

like those, who following Creationism theories.

[Tim the Enchanter]

i go crazy at the trolls at school sayin the earth is flat..its round we know it.

It's definitely flat lol.

[crushinator]

some people will believe anything

[Uniquemind]

Maybe you experience this world or dimension in a more flatter sense if you were traveling at the speed of light or beyond, but we as living people are not, so for all practical intents and purposes, the earth is round.

[jack2001]

Anyone who thinks the earth is flat needs to check themselves into a mental hospital

[lliam]

Anyone who thinks the earth is flat needs to check themselves into a mental hospital


But then there's no room left for Trump supporters.

[Abyssal Echo]

If the world was flat cats (https://das-dragons-lair.tumblr.com/image/169468782190) would have pushed everything off of it by now

[Kiki03]

It has to be some experiment somebody started to see how gullible people are these days.

[Dezzy1]

I read a post once from the flat earth society - it said they have members all over the globe. That made me laugh a lot!

[InternetTeen]

It's definitely not flat. If the Earth was flat planes and ships would fly/sail off the edge of the world. If you look at images from space you can clearly see the earth is spherical. Also facetime/skype someone in Australia from UK/USA at 1am. In Australia it'll be daylight. That's not possible if the earth is flat.

[Jinglebottom]

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