the Current US Government and how it's like the old Soviet Union

[Zenos]

Now please understand I love my nation but I do not like what the US Government has become since 9-11.

Everyones harping about Russia and the Ukraine but are failing to noitice
that Russia's action is a response to America, and NATO which has been since the fall of the Iron Curtian,the WarSaw Pact ,and the fomer soviet union the encirclement of Russia in her quest for world hegemony. Today the US Government is the new Soviet Union, on steroids, with hundreds of bases worldwide and committed to endless wars and other acts of national sabotage bringing suffering to millions.America is more aggressive than Russia, and that there must be a counter-balance or else America will be the only boss around, dictating terms to the world.And it's gotten worse since Obama has ben in office.

The differences between the Old Soviet Union and George Bush/Barack Obama’s America are dwindling away. This should be disturbing to all Americans, but there are actually a certain percentage of our people (Romney’s 47%) who believe 1984’s “Freedom is Slavery” motto and are happy being led around like farm animals.


Some of the similarities:

1)“In the USSR, they had state-controlled media which shaped the narrative entirely.” Is there any difference between what ABC and CBS etcetera say?


2)Lenin was portrayed as a noble charismatic and smart man who championed the underdog – working class – who was a warrior against the wealthy. Lenin’s face was everywhere; any differences here?

3)Medicines were hard to find; sounds familiar, doesn’t it?


4)The economic numbers the Russian people were given were fake; just as our unemployment and “Hey! The economy is almost there!” reports each month.

5)No matter how hard his parents worked, they could not raise his expected standard of living.


6)The “free healthcare” in the old Soviet Union was a disaster, as it is quickly becoming here.


7)Grade school kids were indoctrinated with love for Lenin and the Soviet state. Remember the videos of American school kids singing songs in praise of Barack Obama?

8)The Soviet State owned and ran the two car production factories, while the Party bosses drove Mercedes Benz’s and American cars. Just as GM is owned by Obama and the UWA in combination.

9)Bad news was blacked out under the Soviets. The Chernobyl nuclear disaster was mentioned during a 15 second report. We need only look at the way inconvenient news like the IRS, Benghazi, or Fast and Furious criminal conspiracies have been ignored to see the similarities. Their two main “news” outlets, Pravda (truth) and Izvestia (delivered news), now report more truthful news about America than our fake media does.


10)In our society under Bush and now Obama, poisonous anti-American propaganda overflows on college campuses, and idiots who have learned nothing from unionized fakes masquerading as teachers think America is the cause of all the world’s problems.

They cling to an old Soviet slogan “Forward,” without even understanding it means forward into slavery.

[Capto]

Lenin was awesome. Stalin was the dick.

But other than that, I can agree.

Pravda is still a load of dung, but Izvestia is OK.

[Stronk Serb]

Lenin was a great man. The universal healthcare was very good. But during the eighties, the USSR started to collapse due to bad economic policies.

[Harry Smith]

Lenin was awesome. Stalin was the dick.

But other than that, I can agree.

Pravda is still a load of dung, but Izvestia is OK.

Lenin was a great man. The universal healthcare was very good. But during the eighties, the USSR started to collapse due to bad economic policies.

Why is there so much love for Lenin? He introduced the brutal war communism,banned all political parties in Russia and shipped millions of to the Gulags.

[Stronk Serb]

Why is there so much love for Lenin? He introduced the brutal war communism,banned all political parties in Russia and shipped millions of to the Gulags.

He was the spark that lit half of the world in communist revolutions. He had to make a proleterian dictatorship due to foreign invasions. It's not easy being a free state when you have Germany, Japan, the UK, the USA, the White Guard, Royal Serbia and others on your tail. Unfortunately, he didn't end it, and Stalin was... well, being Stalin.

[Miserabilia]

Well, the main diference is still that america is in a capitalistic envirement; while russia under Lenin was in a feodal society.
There's a gigantic difference.

I also dont aggree that Lenin was a "great guy".

[Harry Smith]

In reply to the OP your argument is weak at best-at one stage your accusing the US government of blocking the media-the next minute your blaming the US government for not blocking universities. So you basically want to block ideas that are anti-american right?

About Obama's face-have you heard of an election called the 1960 election. Kennedy's face was on everything.
http://www.jfklibrary.org/~/media/assets/Museum%20Objects/Artifacts/Campaign%20and%20Inaugrual/Our%20next%20President%20buttonjpg.jpg

This is nothing new. neither is the US putting bases all around the world. It's been like this since 1904 mate. Your whole argument is filled with hypocrisy. Surely universal healthcare make sit easier to find medicine?

The “free healthcare” in the old Soviet Union was a disaster

Medicines were hard to find; sounds familiar, doesn’t it?

[phuckphace]

I'm no fan of the current US government and certainly not of the USSR, but these are just more of the same strained neocon/libertarian lines that we've been hearing for years. "We don't like X, so let's call it communism!!1!1!" anyone who has done their research already knows that unconstitutional things have been going on at the highest levels for decades, long before Obama was in office (or even old enough to vote, for that matter).

this McCarthyist rabble-rousing is actually a very old tactic that the Right has used for years to rally the clueless proles behind them. Ronald Reagan pulled this shit in the 1960s by distributing a 10 minute LP recording of himself to warn America that MEDICARE IS LITERALLY SOCIALISM and if it were to pass we'll soon be waiting in bread lines and getting shipped off to gulags just like the poor oppressed Soviets do.

http://i.imgur.com/18kqrNj.jpg

murrican politics man

[sweet_girl24au]

Im not totally sure you even understand what your ranting about.

If anything USA has become far less interventionist under Obama - look at the hapless response to the Russian aggression in Crimea from his administration.

[Zenos]

Im not totally sure you even understand what your ranting about.

If anything USA has become far less interventionist under Obama - look at the hapless response to the Russian aggression in Crimea from his administration.

I know exactly what i'm ranting about as you call it,simply because the person or government that truly understands power will realize that there's more ways then meddling in the affairs of other nations,to be aggressive and assert one nations muscle and might.

[sqishy]

Certainly the US is less democratic than people like to think, but I don't think it's something like the USSR.

[sweet_girl24au]

Certainly the US is less democratic than people like to think, but I don't think it's something like the USSR.

Its nothing like the USSR.

The USSR doesnt have a free media, as Putin has intimidated it into running his line.

The USA is still far more democratic than many countries, more so than Australia, where I see laws get passed here all the time which would not be passed in the USA because people would be out on the street if they tried.

[sqishy]

Its nothing like the USSR.

The USSR doesnt have a free media, as Putin has intimidated it into running his line.

The USA is still far more democratic than many countries, more so than Australia, where I see laws get passed here all the time which would not be passed in the USA because people would be out on the street if they tried.

True, but still.

[Zenos]

Its nothing like the USSR.

The USSR doesnt have a free media, as Putin has intimidated it into running his line.

The USA is still far more democratic than many countries, more so than Australia, where I see laws get passed here all the time which would not be passed in the USA because people would be out on the street if they tried.


Yoy do realize don't you that the USSR formally ceased to exist on 26 December 1991 don't you ? And that it was replaced by the Commonwealth of Independent States also called the Russian Commonwealth?

The USSR didn't have free media and the Russian Commonwealth doesnt have a free media as Putin has intimidated it into running his line.

Well who say's we have a free media here in the USA? Our economies in the tank and just about to slip into the grave and yet they (OUR MEDIA)carry on and on with the same old tripe the same old party line about improvements in the economy that no ones seeing! The difference is our media willingly works side by side with the Government to promote a lie and distract us with the tv version of Ancient Romes bread and Curcises where as the modern Russian Commonwealth's media has in most instances been brow beaten into submission.so our media is not free by it's on volition!

Hmm the average American today couldn't give a hoot about the laws being passed would you believe after 9/11 vast amounts of American would have willingly gave up their freedoms for security,the patriot act is in fact in violation of our constitution,so yeh laws are being passed that just 20 30 years ago Americans would have been in the streets,but not now because most people want their bread and Curcises

[sweet_girl24au]

Yoy do realize don't you that the USSR formally ceased to exist on 26 December 1991 don't you ? And that it was replaced by the Commonwealth of Independent States also called the Russian Commonwealth?

My bad silly mistake

[Zenos]

My bad silly mistake

well I find lots of us teens make that mistake seeing as we where not around when it came to an end.
I do feel the big bad thing about the USSR falling apart is that since then there has been no single definable enemy and civilization has not yet adapted to that fact and it's starting to mess with the meantility of civilization.

[sweet_girl24au]

well I find lots of us teens make that mistake seeing as we where not around when it came to an end.
I do feel the big bad thing about the USSR falling apart is that since then there has been no single definable enemy and civilization has not yet adapted to that fact and it's starting to mess with the meantility of civilization.

Thats because Russia couldnt get its shit together after the collapse, and Yeltsin gifted all the wealthy state owned assets (oil, gas) to his political friends so they can become oligarchs. This is why Russia has some of the worst income inequality in the world

[Aajj333]

Similarities between the greatest government ever and ours:

1. It was run by at least 1 person
2. It had laws
3. People were effected by the outcome
4. They lived on land
5. They had at least 1 finger/ toe
6. They had a spoken language

[Harry Smith]

Well who say's we have a free media here in the USA?

The fact that such an anti-government TV channel such as Fox exist shows that the US has an extremely free media-if it had been the USSR then it would of been closed down and I honestly believe that the 'powers' behind this evil game wouldn't of let a 46 year black senator from Illinois become president

[Sph2015]

Okay, I can't even begin to go down the list of just... nonsense that you presented.

However, I have to comment on one point. As someone who comes from a business and agriculture background, I can assure you our economy is in much better shape. I don't have to watch the news to be able to tell you that. Please explain to me how we are not in better conditions than we were a few years ago, and how apparently "everyone" knows this but me?

[Zenos]

The fact that such an anti-government TV channel such as Fox exist shows that the US has an extremely free media-if it had been the USSR then it would of been closed down and I honestly believe that the 'powers' behind this evil game wouldn't of let a 46 year black senator from Illinois become president

Mere tools of the government

[Harry Smith]

Mere tools of the government

Fox news is a tool of the government? Do you have any evidence for that?

Surely if they were a tool for the government then they would of called Florida for Gore in 2000?

[Zenos]

Fox news is a tool of the government? Do you have any evidence for that?

Surely if they were a tool for the government then they would of called Florida for Gore in 2000?

Pure distraction!

[Harry Smith]

Pure distraction!

Do you have any evidence that fox is controlled by the Obama administration?

[Stronk Serb]

In the Soviet Union people knew they had no freedom, while in the USA it was and maybe is still sugar-coated. Countless imprisoned socialists and communists were replaced by Muslims, people against the regime, protesters etc.

[Zenos]

In the Soviet Union people knew they had no freedom, while in the USA it was and maybe is still sugar-coated. Countless imprisoned socialists and communists were replaced by Muslims, people against the regime, protesters etc.

Google " the Patriot Act' that'll show you how sugar-coated things are in post 9/11 America.

Also I now think it's funny on September 9th 2001 we get attacked and the next month October 26, 2001 ,it gets approved,no bill or act gets approved that fast unless it was already written up and ready to go and just needed a reason to be pushed through

[Stronk Serb]

Google " the Patriot Act' that'll show you how sugar-coated things are in post 9/11 America.

Also I now think it's funny on September 9th 2001 we get attacked and the next month October 26, 2001 ,it gets approved,no bill or act gets approved that fast unless it was already written up and ready to go and just needed a reason to be pushed through

The problem is, a large part of your population does not exactly know the laws, while the people of the USSR were taught exactly what kind of behaviour and talking to report. They knew they had no free speech, freedom of movement, the right to vote.