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MTB1997
February 23rd, 2014, 05:55 PM
I have always wondered, Why is it "more" socially acceptable for a female to be openly gay/bi but not so much for a male???
Elysium
February 23rd, 2014, 06:03 PM
It's a stupid double standard, but it appears to me that it's somehow emasculating to be attracted to men, which I don't agree with at all.
Tarannosaurus
February 23rd, 2014, 06:09 PM
It's not, at least not where I live. For some reason some men find women being attracted to women attractive. So lesbians get harassment, prying questions and requests to take part in threesomes. It's not accepting, just annoying, to be objectified like that.
Celtics
February 23rd, 2014, 10:08 PM
its called males. Most males find lesbians hot, so they find it ok.
Karkat
February 23rd, 2014, 10:13 PM
Most men who 'accept' lesbians (and not gay men, is what I'm getting at) don't actually accept lesbians- they fetishize them. That's really all it is. Both sides are a long ways from actually being accepted.
Hermes96
February 24th, 2014, 02:40 AM
most straite men find lesbians 'Hot' so they kind of give them less of a hard time but this does not always happen
mww113
February 24th, 2014, 09:48 AM
Our society has created a false dichotomy of "gay" and "straight" and attempts to box people into fitting one of those labels. Especially with men, bisexuality is considered nonexistent or merely a front for homosexuality. The problem lies in that fact that if a guy gets labeled as "gay", it can be very difficult to shake that label. Therefore many straight guys constantly feel the need to prove themselves and their heterosexuality. They fear gay people because should they see some of themselves in us, they are afraid that they would be labeled gay.
As far as female homosexuality goes, if we take for granted that society is patriarchal. Or controlled mostly by straight men. Then the logical conclusion follows that female homosexuality is more socially acceptable because straight men fetishize it.
ksdnfkfr
February 24th, 2014, 09:51 AM
Being gay isn't manly. Or some kinda crap like that.
JamesSuperBoy
February 24th, 2014, 12:35 PM
Might differ in other places or societies but its only some peoples opinion or view.
Aidoon123
February 24th, 2014, 05:11 PM
Unfortunately, that's how our society works. Gay people are seen as 'feminine' and embarrassing to the stereotype of men, who are meant to be 'masculine' and strong and brave. What amazes me is how all these people say how civilised humanity is, how intelligent we are, yet I still see people get beat up at school because they are gay, or because a rumour has been spread claiming they are gay. It baffles me how this negative stereotype came about, yes, it is not the ''natural'' thing that religion has taught us, but if it wasn't meant to happen, it just wouldn't. So I believe that some people are made that way for a reason, not because god wants to punish them, but because it is simply who they are.
Luminous
February 25th, 2014, 12:40 AM
I don't think I've ever seen that before. But it does make sense that maybe some men are more okay with gay girls because of the whole pornographic/turn on thing or... whatever. I'm not sure.
Karkat
February 25th, 2014, 01:11 AM
Our society has created a false dichotomy of "gay" and "straight" and attempts to box people into fitting one of those labels. Especially with men, bisexuality is considered nonexistent or merely a front for homosexuality. The problem lies in that fact that if a guy gets labeled as "gay", it can be very difficult to shake that label. Therefore many straight guys constantly feel the need to prove themselves and their heterosexuality. They fear gay people because should they see some of themselves in us, they are afraid that they would be labeled gay.
As far as female homosexuality goes, if we take for granted that society is patriarchal. Or controlled mostly by straight men. Then the logical conclusion follows that female homosexuality is more socially acceptable because straight men fetishize it.
Some straight, effeminate men get labeled gay and try to prove themselves otherwise solely for the fact that women take them out of their range of potential partners, which is unfortunate. That, and some people who are labeled gay just aren't gay. I don't think they should have to live with an incorrect label. They shouldn't display homophobia, but they shouldn't have to succumb to a rumor.
mww113
February 25th, 2014, 01:57 PM
I'm not saying that they should have to live with false labels. My argument is that the labels and the labeling itself is problematic.
Karkat
February 25th, 2014, 02:57 PM
I'm not saying that they should have to live with false labels. My argument is that the labels and the labeling itself is problematic.
And that's absolutely true. 100% agree with you there.
Snydergate
February 25th, 2014, 10:42 PM
I find it to parallel with an adult having sexual relations with a minor. like a teacher with a student. Its not such a big deal when a female teacher has sex with a male student, but when a male teacher has sex with a female student, well...to quote the Joker "Then everyone looses their minds!"
NickCollins
February 26th, 2014, 09:04 PM
I find it to parallel with an adult having sexual relations with a minor. like a teacher with a student. Its not such a big deal when a female teacher has sex with a male student, but when a male teacher has sex with a female student, well...to quote the Joker "Then everyone looses their minds!"
excellent point even though i think its complete BS
and great joker quote
Karkat
February 27th, 2014, 01:01 AM
I find it to parallel with an adult having sexual relations with a minor. like a teacher with a student. Its not such a big deal when a female teacher has sex with a male student, but when a male teacher has sex with a female student, well...to quote the Joker "Then everyone looses their minds!"
Actually, where I live, I've noticed that female teachers with male students get far more criticism, and I've seen more of it in pop culture (in a negative light)
And adults are generally criticized if statutory rape goes on. (If it's legal, but still a minor with someone the age of majority, it's still looked down on, but technically you can't make as big of a fuss because no one's breaking any laws)
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