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Eagertogrow
January 5th, 2017, 03:12 AM
American regular guy supposed to be?

Or have women changed their thoughts.

Girls give birth to boys
Mothers most often decide to circumsize.

Is this still reqular stuff and should I consider having it done now during puberty or after puberty.

IDK

Thoughts from all please.

jamie_n5
January 5th, 2017, 02:41 PM
Why would you want to be circumcised? I am not and would never consider it unless it was absolutely medically necessary. God put a foreskin on a penis for some reason. Unless for religious reasons or medical I would never have it done. There are increasingly more parents that are choosing not to circumcise their boys in the USA now too. Yeah and woman don't have penis' so I don't know why more of them choose circumcision. Maybe for hygiene reasons.

garfield221
January 5th, 2017, 03:23 PM
I would be circumcised if possible and circumcised my kids too

NZPerson
January 5th, 2017, 04:16 PM
Its getting less and less popular now. Regardless only 25% of thebworld is cut so its the minority anyway. I would never want it done and think its unethical to do to infants because they cant decide for themselves.

Pyromaniac27
January 5th, 2017, 05:26 PM
itz less popular, plases like ny here in the u.s. still have a high percentage, mostly because of the jewish and imigrant inflience

heresjohnny
January 5th, 2017, 08:38 PM
itz less popular, plases like ny here in the u.s. still have a high percentage, mostly because of the jewish and immigrant influence

To be honest, immigrants generally DON'T circumcise, as it's more popular outside of the USA to keep intact.


To the OP, if you really want it, keep in mind that you cannot ever "uncircumcise." You need to look deep inside yourself and ask yourself why.

If you're being bullied, keep in mind they'll probably still find another reason after you change your appearance to suit their preference.

If it's to match your friends, think of yourself as having more than they do.

If it's because of a girl, not every girl prefers a circumcised guy. If you wanna get with a certain girl and you KNOW she prefers it circumcised, keep in mind there still will be a chance you won't get her after you get circumcised AND you most likely won't be with her forever. To be honest, if any girl prefers a circumcised guy, she's quite narrow-minded and you can do better than someone so self-centered.

pconnor
January 5th, 2017, 08:55 PM
Everyone in my class is circumsized.

Hermes
January 6th, 2017, 06:38 AM
While it is true that in the USA it is more common to be circumcised that not that doesn't mean you should have it done just to fit in. No-one should feel obliged to modify his body to be like other people.

On the question of what girls expect I'd agree with heresjohnny - find someone find someone who loves you - the whole you, the complete person, and your penis, including whether it is circumcised or not, is not likely to be an issue.

ClaraWho
January 6th, 2017, 11:48 AM
Why? Why do you want to cut part of your penis off?

Less is not more here. There is NO reason other than aesthetics or rare medical defects.

~ Clara

JennyBean
January 6th, 2017, 11:53 AM
So it used to be that people thought that masturbating led to mental illness. And a man thought that was a problem. So he tried to invent a diet that would be high in fiber to prevent that (it doesn't BTW) the guys name was John Harvey Kellogg. He made corn flakes from that and then made millions of dollars. He was really respected at the time and he suggested that kids be circumcised to prevent masturbation. Including girls! Thankfully it's illegal to do that to girls. And so I think that it is wrong because a cereal dude made it popular. In the UK people don't and they recommend masturbating daily. So that's why America has this idea. Used to be that they didn't do it.

Hermes
January 6th, 2017, 03:35 PM
...And so I think that it is wrong because a cereal dude made it popular...

Being a cereal dude does not, of itself, mean he is wrong but you certainly wouldn't be surprised to find him to be a quack*.

As a "solution" to the "problem" of masturbation circumcision is ineffective, i.e. it doesn't stop guys doing it and is also attempting to "solve" something that isn't a problem. Masturbation, as long as it isn't done to such excess as to get in the way of the rest of your life, is good for you.

* These days we have evidence-based medicine so in order to claim something benefits patients you have to produce evidence that stands up to scientific scrutiny by your peers. It was not always so - in the past anyone who had a theory could sell a treatment. Those who lacked sufficient knowledge or morals that these treatments were even likely to work were called quacks.

jamie_n5
January 6th, 2017, 07:47 PM
Galatians 5:1-6:18 ESV / 4 helpful votes
For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. ...

Leviticus 15:16-17 ESV / 73 helpful votes
“If a man has an emission of semen, he shall bathe his whole body in water and be unclean until the evening. And every garment and every skin on which the semen comes shall be washed with water and be unclean until the evening.


I found these two little gems from the Holy Bible.

sidric8
January 7th, 2017, 01:01 AM
I've had sex and been told in conversation afterward that it wouldn't have happened if I weren't circumcised. Not saying that happens all the time, but it does sometimes. It certainly makes me happy that when the reveal comes and it's time to show what I've got, it's probably what they're expecting and are comforble with. Nicer that way.

And when I've asked friends, etc. they've either been neutral or preferred cut. No one I know has said they prefer foreskin. Plenty of those people do exist, of course, but in the US they are not as common.

bonbon
January 7th, 2017, 01:25 AM
I've had sex and been told in conversation afterward that it wouldn't have happened if I weren't circumcised. Not saying that happens all the time, but it does sometimes. It certainly makes me happy that when the reveal comes and it's time to show what I've got, it's probably what they're expecting and are comforble with. Nicer that way.

And when I've asked friends, etc. they've either been neutral or preferred cut. No one I know has said they prefer foreskin. Plenty of those people do exist, of course, but in the US they are not as common.
This sounds ridiculous. If my girlfriend refused to have sex just because my penis didn't look like what she wanted it to be, then I'd not want her as a girlfriend anymore!

NZPerson
January 7th, 2017, 03:19 AM
I've had sex and been told in conversation afterward that it wouldn't have happened if I weren't circumcised. Not saying that happens all the time, but it does sometimes. It certainly makes me happy that when the reveal comes and it's time to show what I've got, it's probably what they're expecting and are comforble with. Nicer that way.

And when I've asked friends, etc. they've either been neutral or preferred cut. No one I know has said they prefer foreskin. Plenty of those people do exist, of course, but in the US they are not as common.

Sounds like shes just a bitch! And im not saying that because of my foreskin but because what other shitty personality traits would she have if she said that.

Hermes
January 7th, 2017, 07:18 AM
Galatians 5:1-6:18 ESV / 4 helpful votes
For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. ...

Circumcision is only the subject of this passage in so far as it is a symbol of being Jewish. It is saying that Jews must live perfect lives according to Jewish law whereas Christians can afford to make mistakes and sin because Jesus died to save them from their sins. As such it is advising people to be Christian rather than Jewish.

I've had sex and been told in conversation afterward that it wouldn't have happened if I weren't circumcised. Not saying that happens all the time, but it does sometimes. It certainly makes me happy that when the reveal comes and it's time to show what I've got, it's probably what they're expecting and are comforble with. Nicer that way.

I did nearly say in my previous reply that someone who is in the minority may miss out on casual sex with someone whose motives are very shallow but I wouldn't consider casual sex worth modifying my body for.

Hufflepufflife
January 7th, 2017, 11:44 AM
It's half and half

ClaraWho
January 7th, 2017, 03:00 PM
Why would any morally decent human being want their sexual partner's genitals to be mutilated, with the sole purpose of aesthetics and greatly deminished sexual pleasure?

There is way too much ignorance around this whole issue, it's depressing.

~ Clara

zzzzzzzzzz
January 7th, 2017, 05:14 PM
Why would any morally decent human being want their sexual partner's genitals to be mutilated, with the sole purpose of aesthetics and greatly deminshed sexual pleasure?

There is way too much ignorance around this whole issue, it's depressing.

~ Clara

I wholly agree with Clara on this one. It's not common in the UK. The only boy that I know in my year that got it (recently) done was due to a medical reason (tight foreskin)

jordand
January 10th, 2017, 01:58 AM
It is very common in america

army martin
January 11th, 2017, 12:25 AM
A lot of people do it for religious reason. I'm from the US and it's very common here.

Pika2001
January 14th, 2017, 10:08 PM
idk, but when i have a kid, i wouldn't circumcise him, unless there is a medical reason

pconnor
January 14th, 2017, 10:51 PM
Most boys in America are circumcised. But that isn't a reason to go out and have it done. It should be your choice.

tyguy359
January 16th, 2017, 06:26 PM
i have many friends with little brothers (as young as 2) and I don't know any that aren't circumcised, so i think it is very popular, at least where i live

Eagertogrow
March 19th, 2017, 06:55 PM
I am the OP.

I am the only guy at school who is not been circumcised.

I don't want to be considered too "different " what ever that means..

James_Wilson
March 19th, 2017, 07:52 PM
Unless medically necessary, circumsision is pointless. Only common in America because around like 15 years ago doctors believed to be better for the children, we know know other wise. That and the Jewish population, but I think circumsion is gonna become a lot less common in a few years. Im not cut, but im Canadian and I don't know anybody that is.

JennyBean
March 20th, 2017, 12:39 PM
My mom never had my brothers cut. Back then everyone was doing it and my mom thought it was really mean to kids. But we live West Coast and a lot of people don't here anyway.

bonbon
March 21st, 2017, 03:15 PM
I am the OP.

I am the only guy at school who is not been circumcised.

I don't want to be considered too "different " what ever that means..
If someone rejects you only because of this, then it means he or she only had shallow feelings for you. Real friends, real lovers won't give a damn about this.

Don't do it just because everybody else does. People that are worthy won't care, people who aren't, well, who cares?

Verwon2k17
May 4th, 2017, 12:30 AM
Go for it if you want. It's not very common where I live in Europe but I'm definitely still gonna have my boys done if I ever have kids for their health. It's a lot healthier.

Removing healthy body parts from non-consenting children is wrong. I'm really upset about being circumcised, and I don't trust my parents because of it.

Let your sons decide for themselves how much of their penises they want to keep.

(PS: The health benefits are negligible at best, and circumcision has a lot of risks as well)

scott2002
May 4th, 2017, 05:40 AM
By what I've seen and read online, I think being circumcised (like I am) is definitely easier to live with, keep clean, etc. And I really don't think the pleasure or sensations are likely better being uncircumcised. It would be easier to masturbate whenever I wanted to if I had a foreskin, too. But God made our dicks with a foreskin so I kinda think he wanted them to be that way. I dunno what I'll so when or if I have boys someday.

steellord321
May 4th, 2017, 10:44 AM
i think it varies by area. I'm still the only uncut guy in my class that i know of

Verwon2k17
May 4th, 2017, 10:57 AM
By what I've seen and read online, I think being circumcised (like I am) is definitely easier to live with, keep clean, etc. And I really don't think the pleasure or sensations are likely better being uncircumcised. It would be easier to masturbate whenever I wanted to if I had a foreskin, too. But God made our dicks with a foreskin so I kinda think he wanted them to be that way. I dunno what I'll so when or if I have boys someday.

It takes about 5 seconds a day in the shower to wash under your foreskin. Do you brush your teeth or get them pulled?


Read this if you think circumcision doesn't affect pleasure: http://www.circumstitions.com/Sexuality.html

LITTLEANGEL19
May 4th, 2017, 11:25 AM
Boys will get circumcised for various reasons like as a matter of choice, On medical grounds and of course on Religious Grounds.

Verwon2k17
May 4th, 2017, 11:40 AM
Boys will get circumcised for various reasons like as a matter of choice, On medical grounds and of course on Religious Grounds.

It's fine if someone wants to get themselves circumcised for religious reasons, what's not fine is circumcising other people, including your children, for your religion.

Your right to practice your religion ends where someone else's body begins.

ClaraWho
May 4th, 2017, 11:46 AM
Removing healthy body parts from non-consenting children is wrong. I'm really upset about being circumcised, and I don't trust my parents because of it.

Let your sons decide for themselves how much of their penises they want to keep.

(PS: The health benefits are negligible at best, and circumcision has a lot of risks as well)

On this subject you speak a lot of sense. As sad as your story may be, it has more strength when coming from you than from me. Hopefully you use your experiences to act as a public advocate for this cause.

~ Clara

LITTLEANGEL19
May 5th, 2017, 10:13 AM
It's fine if someone wants to get themselves circumcised for religious reasons, what's not fine is circumcising other people, including your children, for your religion.

Your right to practice your religion ends where someone else's body begins.
your right to practice your religion is to do it as you see fit as long as it's legal and it's not just your religion it your family's religion. I am a christian and was baptised so do you think that wrong also, and if your family were a follower of a religion that believed in circumcision would you have posted what you did?

Desdemona
May 13th, 2017, 12:01 PM
Go for it if you want. It's not very common where I live in Europe but I'm definitely still gonna have my boys done if I ever have kids for their health. It's a lot healthier.

My mom is a pediatrician and she says there are few or no benefits to cirumcision. It makes the penis less sensitive. Sure - it is cleaner, but if you practise normal hygiene it is no difference. If I were a boy I would want to keep the sensitivitity. Imagine cutting off your clit hood and brush against your pants for the rest of your life.

And doing it to babies who have no say in the matter seems very wrong for me.

logan2002
May 13th, 2017, 12:11 PM
Only one boy out of 18 in my class at a K - 8 Catholic school was uncut. Kids I have seen in 9th grade are also cut.

Desdemona
May 14th, 2017, 01:35 PM
I mean that cutting the foreskin off a boy is the same thing as cutting the clit hood off a girl, which no one would think of doing. What's the difference?

As for cleaner - do you think the boy would NOT want to touch his penis with a hand slippery with soap. Problem solves itself.

Hermes
May 15th, 2017, 05:14 AM
And yeah, I'm a huge believer in consent - but parents make medical choices for their kids all the time, and it prevents disease and is cleaner... so it seems to be worth making the choice for them, since it protects them.

Yes, parents to make medical decisions for their children but usually this is based on a clear advantage and a need to make a decision at a particular point in the child's life to reap that benefit.

To give an extreme example, if the doctors say a baby needs a heart operation or he may not live to adulthood it would be pointless someone saying that as the baby cannot consent for himself we should take the chance that he might die. Clearly, deciding that the operation is in his best interests is the right thing to do.

Similarly you can imaging that some kinds of growth defects may only be correctable while you are still growing etc.

But circumcision really doesn't fall into that category. The benefits are widely disputed given that most of the world does not practice infant circumcision and don't suffer from the problems it is reputed to avoid and it becomes even harder to justify when you adopt the view that for parents to guess at their child's wishes and do something irreversible they should know that not only is it of benefit but that that benefit would be significantly reduced if it wasn't done before the child was old enough to understand and consent.

As for the equivalence of clitoridectomy and circumcision, the health claims for circumcision came later. The original reason for the practice spreading was an attempt to stop masturbation, though it did not succeed. There is clear common ground between these two in the view that sexual organs are an incovenient necessity for reproduction, not something to have fun with so in the case of girls where the clit appears to serve no reproductive purpose, and is only for fun, it is removed whereas in boys, where the penis does have a repdoctuctive purpose, it is simply altered to make it harder to have fun with.

Fortunately, I think most people's thinking has moved on from those times and we realise that enjoying orgasms just for the fun of it, whether through masturbation or non-reprodutive partnered sex is normal and healthy, but clearly this has not happenned everywhere and there is still a bit of a legacy.

Beltane1001
May 15th, 2017, 09:24 AM
It's common in America but there's been a lot of push back against it lately because it seems unnecessary.

Turbofan explosion
October 17th, 2017, 05:22 PM
I am cut, and I wish I am not

Vic_Fire
October 17th, 2017, 05:27 PM
i don't understand this tradition of circumsion except medical reasons.

Atlantis
October 17th, 2017, 05:45 PM
I am cut, and I wish I am not

Please don't bump old threads. :locked: