Looking as if you belong

[Karkat]

Alright mods, not sure if this belongs here, in puberty, or in fashion?? I figured that since this is dealing with LGBT it'd belong here.

Anyways, I'm bigender, and I usually portray myself as female, and this is partially due to one thing:

I can't manage to look male. I just can't. I've tried, and I do ok with shorter hair, but my face looks absolutely female.

As far as build, etc. I'm 6'0, fairly broad shouldered, kind of lanky- but I still can pull off a masculine body shape. I can even bind my chest fairly well.

See, my voice is moderately deep for a woman, and with short hair and no makeup I look a LITTLE boyish- but extremely effeminate.

I usually get addressed with female pronouns when I portray myself as male, and it embarrasses me a little. I usually just dress female because I know I can pull it off. (Which is ironically when I end up getting male pronouns. I just can't win lol)

Anyways, any trans men out there? Does anyone have any advice? I feel kind of lost.

[myfoodisnotshared]

I think you should dress in whatever makes you feel most comfortable, and most like you. If you're uncomfortable dressing as a guy, go as a girl. It sounds like you're okay with being bigender and that's so much of the battle already won, so just go for it:-) I can't give you much in the way of advise, though have you tried:

http://www.wikihow.com/Crossdress

My friends and I used it for fancy dress once, but it looks really, really good. Perhaps that'll help you exaggerate your figures more, both male and female?

[Karkat]

I think you should dress in whatever makes you feel most comfortable, and most like you. If you're uncomfortable dressing as a guy, go as a girl. It sounds like you're okay with being bigender and that's so much of the battle already won, so just go for it:-) I can't give you much in the way of advise, though have you tried:

http://www.wikihow.com/Crossdress

My friends and I used it for fancy dress once, but it looks really, really good. Perhaps that'll help you exaggerate your figures more, both male and female?

Thank you. :) I don't really feel uncomfortable with dressing like a guy so much as I feel uncomfortable with not looking enough like one when I do.

My biggest issue is that my face never looks masculine enough, and the article mostly dealt with makeuping, and just look tacky when I try to do what they suggest. I've considered getting a haircut, but I'm kind of unsure about it right now. My hair is still at a length that a large portion of guys have, so I'm not terribly worried about it.

I just feel uncomfortable with the masculine side of my persona, because I've never had trouble being accepted as feminine now that I've reached my late teen years and I wear makeup and have my own rather girly sense of fashion. I haven't abandoned my more masculine sense of fashion, or my more gender-neutral one, I've just been able to accept being 'girly' more, which is nice.

And maybe this will just be a "only time can tell" thing, and I'll just have to get used to looking fairly effeminate when I present myself as male. Who knows.

Thank you for your suggestions though. :)

[myfoodisnotshared]

That makes a lot of sense - after all, we all dress to look our best:-)

Meh, late teens, you'll probably grow into a more manly face. Would you miss being able to get away with looking like a girl easily?

[Karkat]

That makes a lot of sense - after all, we all dress to look our best:-)

Meh, late teens, you'll probably grow into a more manly face. Would you miss being able to get away with looking like a girl easily?

Haha :)

Oh, I think I forgot to point out that I'm actually a biological female. This is a lot of the reason why I can pull off a feminine look easily. It brings problems when I'm trying to go for the reverse. I'm actually a little glad that it's this way, because I don't want to look TERRIBLY masculine to begin with. I don't really want the 'tough guy' look so much as a boyish, lanky, slightly delicate look. Like a boy who is a little feminine- as opposed to a boy who is extremely feminine, which is what I look like.

And then on the other hand, I'm a large person, and without accentuating my figure or putting on makeup, I look like a pretty masculine female, but still a female. I'd like to be a tad more masculine when I need to be, as opposed to androgynous.

[myfoodisnotshared]

Ah, my bad, I thought you said he in your first post. I suppose it makes sense for it to be harder to look like a guy - girls are known for their figure so that can be replicated, but you can't just take away curves:-) It must suck to not be able to dress as a guy when you want to though, just because you don't have the figure for it.

[Karkat]

Ah, my bad, I thought you said he in your first post. I suppose it makes sense for it to be harder to look like a guy - girls are known for their figure so that can be replicated, but you can't just take away curves:-) It must suck to not be able to dress as a guy when you want to though, just because you don't have the figure for it.

Well most of my issue figure-wise is due to hips/butt and chest. I'm Puerto Rican, and we are kinda known for being curvy :lol:

But even then, I'm tall, I have broad shoulders, etc. It's not terribly hard for me to pull off a masculine shape because I'm actually fairly thin, my face is just too feminine.

[backjruton]

I would just say something stupid like draw stubble on your face so it looks like you're growing XD for the face anyway

[Karkat]

I would just say something stupid like draw stubble on your face so it looks like you're growing XD for the face anyway

Haha, yeah sadly I've tried that
http://i62.tinypic.com/4ryphv.jpg

I looked absolutely ridiculous.

[JamesSuperBoy]

Maybe you have to work on the way you deal with how others see YOU.

[Karkat]

Maybe you have to work on the way you deal with how others see YOU.

Probably. In the long run, that's probably what's going to have to happen. Just wish I could look the part though.