Promiscuity

[Obsidian]

I don't really know if this is the right area to post this, so I apologize if it isn't.

I want to know people's thoughts on judging others based on promiscuity. Personally it's something that has always bothered me, because I think it's completely unfair to judge someone based on the number of people they've had sex with. To me sex is a personal decision. Not everybody has the same ideas or opinions of what sex means. To some people sex should be saved for when you're really in love with someone, or till marriage. For others it doesn't mean as much.

Guys should not be shamed for being virgins or having very little sex.

Girls should not be shamed and told they have no self respect if they have sex with a large number of people.

Someone's sexual decisions do not define who they are. And they're their own business. No one should be judged based on sex.

But what are your thoughts?

[Zenos]

I don't really know if this is the right area to post this, so I apologize if it isn't.

I want to know people's thoughts on judging others based on promiscuity. Personally it's something that has always bothered me, because I think it's completely unfair to judge someone based on the number of people they've had sex with. To me sex is a personal decision. Not everybody has the same ideas or opinions of what sex means. To some people sex should be saved for when you're really in love with someone, or till marriage. For others it doesn't mean as much.

Guys should not be shamed for being virgins or having very little sex.

Girls should not be shamed and told they have no self respect if they have sex with a large number of people.

Someone's sexual decisions do not define who they are. And they're their own business. No one should be judged based on sex.

But what are your thoughts?



the problem with Promiscuity is that too many people who sleep with who ever they want when ever they want do not tend to care about forming real lasting relationships, and don't care if your in love with them,they'll sleep with who they won't and if you get hurt oh so sorry!

Plus it also boils down to trust are you really going to trust someone that's slept with 30 people and see sex as something to do,not as something more meaningful then getting their "D" and all the orgasams they can get?

[ksdnfkfr]

the problem with Promiscuity is that too many people who sleep with who ever they want when ever they want do not tend to care about forming real lasting relationships, and don't care if your in love with them,they'll sleep with who they won't and if you get hurt oh so sorry!

Plus it also boils down to trust are you really going to trust someone that's slept with 30 people and see sex as something to do,not as something more meaningful then getting their "D" and all the orgasams they can get?

Well that deals with promiscuity itself. But what the OP is asking about is passing judgement upon others based on promiscuity i.e. "slut", "lowlife", "sleazebag" "pervert" etc.

[conniption]

Other people's sex lives really aren't my business, so I don't like to make any assumptions before I meet them. I guess, however, that some people think that someone's sex life says a lot about them and so they judge them on that.

[Obsidian]

the problem with Promiscuity is that too many people who sleep with who ever they want when ever they want do not tend to care about forming real lasting relationships, and don't care if your in love with them,they'll sleep with who they won't and if you get hurt oh so sorry!

There are plenty of people who aren't promiscuous who also aren't interested in having long lasting relationships. Not everyone desires to have a meaningful relationship. If you fall in love with someone who doesn't want to be with you that doesn't mean they should automatically stop having sex with other people to spare your feelings. Of course if you're in a relationship and they're sleeping with someone else that's totally different, but it's also unfair to assume that promiscuous people are automatically cheaters. & I think the majority of people who have a lot of sex are still interested in long lasting relationships. Having casual sex doesn't mean you're not interested in a relationship. It just means you aren't in a relationship and feel like having sex. And there's nothing wrong with that.


Plus it also boils down to trust are you really going to trust someone that's slept with 30 people and see sex as something to do,not as something more meaningful then getting their "D" and all the orgasams they can get?

Just because you have a lot of sex doesn't mean you don't believe sex can be meaningful. There's a difference between casual sex and meaningful sex and promiscuous people can realize that too. You can enjoy casual sex but enjoy meaningful sex as well. It's not like you have to choose between one or the other. & Again, just because someone enjoys having sex and has had a lot of it doesn't mean they'll amount to being a cheater. Having a lot of sex has nothing to do with your character, so it doesn't automatically make you someone who would cheat.

[Zenos]

Well that deals with promiscuity itself. But what the OP is asking about is passing judgement upon others based on promiscuity i.e. "slut", "lowlife", "sleazebag" "pervert" etc.

Well I let their ultimate actions prove whether they are to us an old term a"harlot' or not

[ksdnfkfr]

Well I let their ultimate actions prove whether they are to us an old term a"harlot' or not

Can only imagine how many labels "us" has for everyone else.

[Obsidian]

Well I let their ultimate actions prove whether they are to us an old term a"harlot' or not

So I'm assuming you're saying that your opinion is it's okay to use labels like slut, whore, or harlot? Which basically is judging/shaming girls for their sexual behavior. So you think it's okay to do that?

[Zenos]

So I'm assuming you're saying that your opinion is it's okay to use labels like slut, whore, or harlot? Which basically is judging/shaming girls for their sexual behavior. So you think it's okay to do that?

i'm like this if a person don't want to be labeled something then they should not act in manner that says " hey everyone one I'm a gutter slut",then whine when someone calls them that.

[Its Pretty]

i'm like this if a person don't want to be labeled something then they should not act in manner that says " hey everyone one I'm a gutter slut",then whine when someone calls them that.

Very interesting logic you have applied here.

if a person don't want to be labeled something
You say that for someone to avoid being judged negatively... then they should not act in manner that says " hey everyone one I'm a gutter slut".
...they should not be judged negatively

Your method of seamlessly deducing an answer to any problem using your emotional talent intrigues me.

[Stryker125]

i'm like this if a person don't want to be labeled something then they should not act in manner that says " hey everyone one I'm a gutter slut",then whine when someone calls them that.

ah, that was kind of uncalled for. No one is a slut. slut is a made up word to keep girls from having as much fun as boys do.

it's also sort of a weird thing to care about. like, if I'm the 48th person to eat Cinnamon Toast Cruch, would CT Crunch be like 'i'm the 48th cereal you've tried eating? i don't feel special.' screw that CT crunch, I can't go back in the past and uneat all those cereals, but that doesn't mean I don't genuinely enjoy your whole grain crunch and sweet cinammony taste...

[Obsidian]

i'm like this if a person don't want to be labeled something then they should not act in manner that says " hey everyone one I'm a gutter slut",then whine when someone calls them that.

Okay so let me ask you this... why are there so many derogatory names for women who sleep around, but basically none for guys? Is it totally okay, in your opinion, for guys to sleep around? Is it just girls who should be shamed for being sexual? Cause that sounds kind of sexist to me.

And why is it your business if a girl sleeps around? If you're not going to date her or have sex with her why should you care enough to label her? Her choices aren't affecting you, so why should you have any say in whether they are wrong or right?

[JollyToes]

I don't care who has sex and who doesn't. It's none of my business and my level of sexual activity shouldn't be a basis of whether someone wants to be my friend or not. Society feels like they have to place titles or group people together. We are individuals with different values and different expectations, therefor, we should keep our opinions to ourselves.

[ksdnfkfr]

i'm like this if a person don't want to be labeled something then they should not act in manner that says " hey everyone one I'm a gutter slut",then whine when someone calls them that.

What about labeling someone as a "judgmental hypocrite"?

[Karkat]

I believe that sex is sex. Some people value intimacy and an emotional connection, others value physical pleasure, some both.

I don't think people should be judged for how they have sex. I think people should be judged for how they treat other people. End of story.

I personally hate being called out for being a 'slut' for getting pregnant at 16 (With someone I was in love with, in a committed relationship with, and am currently in love with/in a relationship with. I miscarried.), or for having sex with my boyfriend whom I love and am planning to marry in a little over a year. (if all goes well)

I get judged for our age gap (I'm 17, he's 21, but it's legal where we're at due to how close in age we are.) and because I'm a legal minor, blah blah blah, but people who tend to judge us also tend to not know a thing about our relationship.

It's sickening. I even get thrown things like "Your boyfriend's a paedophile!" (Which is technically incorrect by so many standards) and it makes my blood boil.

I think having sex at a young/illegal age is very unwise, but if someone's ready for it, it's their body- it should be their choice.

[darthearth]

Having a meaningful relationship isn't and shouldn't be a requirement for sexual activity. How is a girl giving like 20 blowjobs to 20 different boys harming anything? Why does there need to be a love connection there? I just don't see why. Not everyone looks at sex as an expression of love, it just satisfies a physical desire, and there is nothing wrong with that. I definitely say "No" to judging a person based on promiscuity, it's baseless. I agree with the OP almost entirely. Anyone can die tomorrow, don't pass up the opportunity today.

[AlexOnToast]

i'm like this if a person don't want to be labeled something then they should not act in manner that says " hey everyone one I'm a gutter slut",then whine when someone calls them that.

In other words, you think its perfectly fine for people to judge other people on personal details that dont effect anyone but the person themself?

[conniption]

ah, that was kind of uncalled for. No one is a slut. slut is a made up word to keep girls from having as much fun as boys do.

it's also sort of a weird thing to care about. like, if I'm the 48th person to eat Cinnamon Toast Cruch, would CT Crunch be like 'i'm the 48th cereal you've tried eating? i don't feel special.' screw that CT crunch, I can't go back in the past and uneat all those cereals, but that doesn't mean I don't genuinely enjoy your whole grain crunch and sweet cinammony taste...

*claps*

[Synyster Shadows]

Having a meaningful relationship isn't and shouldn't be a requirement for sexual activity. How is a girl giving like 20 blowjobs to 20 different boys harming anything? Why does there need to be a love connection there? I just don't see why. Not everyone looks at sex as an expression of love, it just satisfies a physical desire, and there is nothing wrong with that. I definitely say "No" to judging a person based on promiscuity, it's baseless. I agree with the OP almost entirely. Anyone can die tomorrow, don't pass up the opportunity today.

I agree with this. People will do whatever they choose. We're only human, and that means we're going to have sexual desires (most of us, anyways). That's the one of the things i really hate about society - how sexist it is. I mean, if a guy sleeps with, say, even just 5 girls, he's labeled a stud. If a girl sleeps with 5 guys, she's called a slut or a whore, or another nasty name. That's ridiculous. Girls having sex a lot either needs to be more accepted or guys having lots of sex shouldn't be glorified so much. I would rarely judge someone solely on promiscuity, if ever, as it says very little, if anything, of their true personality.

[Zenos]

In other words, you think its perfectly fine for people to judge other people on personal details that dont effect anyone but the person themself?

didn't stop to think about the fact a person can get an std/sti and pass it around hmm?

theres lots of ways their actions can effect others!

[AlexOnToast]

didn't stop to think about the fact a person can get an std/sti and pass it around hmm?

theres lots of ways their actions can effect others!

So now we're generalizing then?

[Karkat]

didn't stop to think about the fact a person can get an std/sti and pass it around hmm?

theres lots of ways their actions can effect others!

Sometimes I forget that condoms were invented too.

But seriously. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. Sure, if you can't be bothered to get tested if not for your own health alone, that's a pretty dumb thing to do, and if you can't bother to use safe sex precautions or make sure that your potential partner is clean, that's totally on you.

But that's the thing, it's totally on the person if they choose to have unsafe sex with someone who has had multiple partners and has no idea if they're clean or not.

Because if you are going to have sex, you need to make sure that you either do it the right way, or know that there will be consequences. If the consequences have never occurred to you in the first place, clearly you're not ready for sex.

Besides, we're not talking about sexual education or safe sex, we're talking about the act of having consensual sex with multiple partners. STDs aren't really relevant to this argument- that's a completely different argument.

And really, the only way their actions could actually affect you is if you chose to have sex with them, or your partner did. In which case, that's your problem, or your partner's problem. You consciously got involved, and what happens is a result of your own choice. Saying that it affects others is putting self-proclaimed "victims" on a pedestal for their own bad decisions. It's advocating blaming other people for your actions, basically.

And sure, it affects the people they sleep with, but once again. Their choice, their responsibility.

I mean, it's not like STDs are airborne, you have to have some level of participation to get them- especially because this thread is about consensual sex, not rape.

[Zenos]

Sometimes I forget that condoms were invented too.

But seriously. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. Sure, if you can't be bothered to get tested if not for your own health alone, that's a pretty dumb thing to do, and if you can't bother to use safe sex precautions or make sure that your potential partner is clean, that's totally on you.

But that's the thing, it's totally on the person if they choose to have unsafe sex with someone who has had multiple partners and has no idea if they're clean or not.

Because if you are going to have sex, you need to make sure that you either do it the right way, or know that there will be consequences. If the consequences have never occurred to you in the first place, clearly you're not ready for sex.

Besides, we're not talking about sexual education or safe sex, we're talking about the act of having consensual sex with multiple partners. STDs aren't really relevant to this argument- that's a completely different argument.

And really, the only way their actions could actually affect you is if you chose to have sex with them, or your partner did. In which case, that's your problem, or your partner's problem. You consciously got involved, and what happens is a result of your own choice. Saying that it affects others is putting self-proclaimed "victims" on a pedestal for their own bad decisions. It's advocating blaming other people for your actions, basically.

And sure, it affects the people they sleep with, but once again. Their choice, their responsibility.

I mean, it's not like STDs are airborne, you have to have some level of participation to get them- especially because this thread is about consensual sex, not rape.



Ok I have discussed this with people I know that was teens back in the day that are the same age as my parents,as well as with my parents.

So I have a good understanding of the teens then as opposed to teens of our generation,and it boils down to this:

1) they had lots of better parents back then who took the time to raise their kids right.
2) Not as many where hoping in bed with everyone they could get with even though there where some like that back then.

3) More teens back then cared about their reputations back then,and didn't want to be know as the town skank,etcc

4) More teens back then actually had morals.

To day teens:

1) think having flexible morals make them a moral person

2) most don't care about morals thinking they are bs

3)most think it's ok to just sleep with whoever they want to to the point they even think that a bad rep is meaning less

4) Most parents either are both having to work so there no one to home to parent in lots of homes and the teen raises themselves and seeing they can do what they want baiscally go wild and think it's ok to sleep with who ever they want.


To be honest compared the teens today with the teens of the 80's and most of the 90's ,most teens today whether they are male or female are nothing more then whores who take pride in being a whore,and know one has the balls to correct them.

I'd rather have been a teen back when my parents where teens at least they had more respect for themselves and for sex!

[Karkat]

Ok I have discussed this with people I know that was teens back in the day that are the same age as my parents,as well as with my parents.

So I have a good understanding of the teens then as opposed to teens of our generation,and it boils down to this:

1) they had lots of better parents back then who took the time to raise their kids right.
2) Not as many where hoping in bed with everyone they could get with even though there where some like that back then.

3) More teens back then cared about their reputations back then,and didn't want to be know as the town skank,etcc

4) More teens back then actually had morals.

To day teens:

1) think having flexible morals make them a moral person

2) most don't care about morals thinking they are bs

3)most think it's ok to just sleep with whoever they want to to the point they even think that a bad rep is meaning less

4) Most parents either are both having to work so there no one to home to parent in lots of homes and the teen raises themselves and seeing they can do what they want baiscally go wild and think it's ok to sleep with who ever they want.


To be honest compared the teens today with the teens of the 80's and most of the 90's ,most teens today whether they are male or female are nothing more then whores who take pride in being a whore,and know one has the balls to correct them.

I'd rather have been a teen back when my parents where teens at least they had more respect for themselves and for sex!

Ok, everything you just said is irrelevant to what I just said.

You're also making a lot of passive-aggressive remarks about my character when you don't know me, please stop. You're wrong.

You're slut-shaming. Arguably acceptance is never more immoral than condemnation. If you're going by a religious standpoint, god is love. The Bible explicitly tells us to love our fellow man. End of point. Not "Love your fellow man only if he is perfect and never ever does anything you don't agree with." God also tells us that we are not to judge. He is. We are not god, therefore judging isn't even up to us and doesn't make a damn difference to begin with.

I'm not citing scriptures because this should be common knowledge if you've ever picked up a Bible. If you claim to be Christian and don't know this, shame on you.

On a non-religious standpoint, morals should be more about the betterment of mankind, and hate of fellow man has never been in the better interest of mankind. Slut-shaming is immoral, because it is an act based on hate. If you would like to bring religion into this, please see the argument above.

Nothing good comes from hate. Being judgmental of everyone just makes you angry. Nothing good comes from it. You're trying to change other people when you have no power over them, and have no right to try. We all have our imperfections whatever way you look at it. No one is perfect.

You're trying to immerse yourself in something that doesn't even concern you, and never would, given your ideals, and it's pointless!

[Zenos]

Ok, everything you just said is irrelevant to what I just said.

You're also making a lot of passive-aggressive remarks about my character when you don't know me, please stop. You're wrong.

You're slut-shaming. Arguably acceptance is never more immoral than condemnation. If you're going by a religious standpoint, god is love. The Bible explicitly tells us to love our fellow man. End of point. Not "Love your fellow man only if he is perfect and never ever does anything you don't agree with." God also tells us that we are not to judge. He is. We are not god, therefore judging isn't even up to us and doesn't make a damn difference to begin with.

I'm not citing scriptures because this should be common knowledge if you've ever picked up a Bible. If you claim to be Christian and don't know this, shame on you.

On a non-religious standpoint, morals should be more about the betterment of mankind, and hate of fellow man has never been in the better interest of mankind. Slut-shaming is immoral, because it is an act based on hate. If you would like to bring religion into this, please see the argument above.

Nothing good comes from hate. Being judgmental of everyone just makes you angry. Nothing good comes from it. You're trying to change other people when you have no power over them, and have no right to try. We all have our imperfections whatever way you look at it. No one is perfect.

You're trying to immerse yourself in something that doesn't even concern you, and never would, given your ideals, and it's pointless!



I never made a statement about your character at all so I don't see how you read that into what I said!
Sorry i'm not a Christian...I am always amazed that just because i live here in the USA even other Americans automatically assume i'm a Christian,despite the fact there are so many different religions in America now.

[Harry Smith]

I'm sorry as much as this actually makes me sick to say.

My parents were raised in the 1960's, they were my age when the Beatles were around, when drugs, sexual liberation and culture actually entered Britain. I'd argue that my parents generation were the most sexed up irresponsible.

Just because your parents seem normal, calm and boring now that doesn't mean when they were are age they weren't having sex and taking drugs

[Karkat]

I never made a statement about your character at all so I don't see how you read that into what I said!
Sorry i'm not a Christian...I am always amazed that just because i live here in the USA even other Americans automatically assume i'm a Christian,despite the fact there are so many different religions in America now.

You really did, consciously or not, by stating what you had about acceptance being immoral, and questioning morals of others.

Hah, clearly you only read what you wanted to out of what I stated above. I personally am not familiar with most other religions, I'm sorry that my lack of knowledge offends you. I'm even more sorry for your selective ability to read and comprehend, because it will not get you far in life.

[Zenos]

You really did, consciously or not, by stating what you had about acceptance being immoral, and questioning morals of others.

Hah, clearly you only read what you wanted to out of what I stated above. I personally am not familiar with most other religions, I'm sorry that my lack of knowledge offends you. I'm even more sorry for your selective ability to read and comprehend, because it will not get you far in life.

Look if nay of my remarks makes you feel this upset then it unintentionally hit something in you for you to get upset seeing as nothing I said was aimed at you. And for you to get this flustered over something not aimed at you,then somewhere in your life something must have happened you know wasn't right,not that i'm going to pry


And I have a far better ability to read and comprehend then you can even comprehend.

[Karkat]

Look if nay of my remarks makes you feel this upset then it unintentionally hit something in you for you to get upset seeing as nothing I said was aimed at you. And for you to get this flustered over something not aimed at you,then somewhere in your life something must have happened you know wasn't right,not that i'm going to pry


And I have a far better ability to read and comprehend then you can even comprehend.

Don't patronize me. Stop trying to play psychologist on me. It's not working. I've studied psychology and that's not how it works. Besides, subconscious meaning isn't any less there than conscious meaning. If you legitimately did not mean to make pointed comments (which you did) that could have offended me (which didn't really, to be honest, but are very much read as being passive-aggressive attacks) you could just own up to it and apologize without being all pretentious and self-righteous about it.

You could've even ignored them. I don't get why you feel you need to put your actions on a pedestal when even you admit that those weren't even your intentions.

That's funny, because I honestly wouldn't have gotten that from your outstanding comprehension of that particular post.

If you would've actually comprehended it, you would have seen that I took both a Christian standpoint into view, and a GENERAL standpoint. A non-religious standpoint. I.e. a "if you are not a Christian, this is where you should be looking" standpoint. I'm not even a Christian, I just know what the bible says, because I've researched it. I've read it. Sue me for not knowing every little detail about every single religion. I never assumed that you were Christian, I just didn't include every single religion because I don't know about every single religion.

You seem to have a far harder time with reading comprehension- and more importantly, common sense and setting up a relevant argument that doesn't evade counterpoints but rather addresses them which makes an argument one worth listening to- than I think you realize. Because if you don't, you sure seem to be having a hard time showing it.

[Zenos]

Don't patronize me. Stop trying to play psychologist on me. It's not working. I've studied psychology and that's not how it works. Besides, subconscious meaning isn't any less there than conscious meaning. If you legitimately did not mean to make pointed comments (which you did) that could have offended me (which didn't really, to be honest, but are very much read as being passive-aggressive attacks) you could just own up to it and apologize without being all pretentious and self-righteous about it.

You could've even ignored them. I don't get why you feel you need to put your actions on a pedestal when even you admit that those weren't even your intentions.

That's funny, because I honestly wouldn't have gotten that from your outstanding comprehension of that particular post.

If you would've actually comprehended it, you would have seen that I took both a Christian standpoint into view, and a GENERAL standpoint. A non-religious standpoint. I.e. a "if you are not a Christian, this is where you should be looking" standpoint. I'm not even a Christian, I just know what the bible says, because I've researched it. I've read it. Sue me for not knowing every little detail about every single religion. I never assumed that you were Christian, I just didn't include every single religion because I don't know about every single religion.

You seem to have a far harder time with reading comprehension- and more importantly, common sense and setting up a relevant argument that doesn't evade counterpoints but rather addresses them which makes an argument one worth listening to- than I think you realize. Because if you don't, you sure seem to be having a hard time showing it.

Please stop trying to impress with with your psudeo-psychoanalzying it will not work.

fact is I said something you didn't like that rattled your cage and now you want to be petty and insulting and trying to tell me what I meant and stuff ,when fact is you don't you don't know me,or anything about me so you are just assuming.

[Karkat]

Please stop trying to impress with with your psudeo-psychoanalzying it will not work.

fact is I said something you didn't like that rattled your cage and now you want to be petty and insulting and trying to tell me what I meant and stuff ,when fact is you don't you don't know me,or anything about me so you are just assuming.

This is actually really ironic. Good job.

[Zenos]

This is actually really ironic. Good job.

Sorry your mind games are not going to work

[Karkat]

Sorry your mind games are not going to work

Once again, that's really ironic, because they kinda just did.

[radsniper]

just putting this out here hate the game not the player now breaking this down don't hate on people(labeling applies here) promicuity is pretty much measuring sexual partners but what about sex slavery do you call them sluts and harlots so many people die because they are drugged and treated poorly and you would still label them
you could hate the act of promiscuity but that is not always consented in a lot of cases or is consented but only wanted to pay the bills but most of the time it's trying to

find the right partner and are hormones are just getting in the way clouding our judgement
so the next time you feel like judging someone on their sexual history ask them about their personal history and stop thinking selfishly

there will always be real sluts but not many in the world

sorry to be so heated and not so kind words i'll remove it if it's to controversial for the mods

Merged double post. -Cygnus David

[Obsidian]

Ok I have discussed this with people I know that was teens back in the day that are the same age as my parents,as well as with my parents.

So I have a good understanding of the teens then as opposed to teens of our generation,and it boils down to this:

1) they had lots of better parents back then who took the time to raise their kids right.
2) Not as many where hoping in bed with everyone they could get with even though there where some like that back then.

3) More teens back then cared about their reputations back then,and didn't want to be know as the town skank,etcc

4) More teens back then actually had morals.

To day teens:

1) think having flexible morals make them a moral person

2) most don't care about morals thinking they are bs

3)most think it's ok to just sleep with whoever they want to to the point they even think that a bad rep is meaning less

4) Most parents either are both having to work so there no one to home to parent in lots of homes and the teen raises themselves and seeing they can do what they want baiscally go wild and think it's ok to sleep with who ever they want.


To be honest compared the teens today with the teens of the 80's and most of the 90's ,most teens today whether they are male or female are nothing more then whores who take pride in being a whore,and know one has the balls to correct them.

I'd rather have been a teen back when my parents where teens at least they had more respect for themselves and for sex!

Do any of your opinions come from real world experience or are they all just based on these discussions you've had with your parents? It's funny you know so much about 80's and 90's teenagers when you weren't even alive during that time period. I think you'll find that a LOT of people don't always stick to the way they were raised. I was brought up with christian beliefs when it comes to sex. "Don't have sex before you're married or you're a whore." I'm far from a virgin and I'm not married. See, the thing is, most people have life experiences and form opinions of their own. Maybe you should try to have less discussions with your parents and more experience in the real world. You might find that your opinions change quite a lot. & Maybe the reasons behind them will even start to actually make sense.