Milwaukee riots

[Dalcourt]

Here we go again.

It just gets weirder everytime.

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/14/12472896/milwaukee-wisconsin-riots-police-shooting

Just one of the many links.

There are just riots for the sake of riots now it's just ridicioulous

[Just JT]

I'm not saying this is a senseless invalid emotion. But there's better ways to get yiur need meet that to act like children and resort to violence

If those people have that much energy they should buss them down to Louisiana and help out the 20,000 displaced people from flood and help get their lives back I order imstead of creating havvock and more umheaval in our world

[Flapjack]

The people are upset about how terrible the system is and want change. I do not think rioting is the solution but I do understand their frustration, especially when many lawmakers are covering their ears and looking away from the problem.

[PlasmaHam]

Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett said during an overnight news conference that a 24-year-old officer with six years of experience started chasing one of the suspects — who had a weapon. The suspect was ordered to drop his gun — and he did not. At that point, the mayor said the officer fired several times and the individual was hit in the chest and arm by two bullets.

The suspect was shot twice — in the arm and chest, the mayor said. His handgun was stolen during a burglary in Waukesha in March, according to police.

“The victim of that burglary reported 500 rounds of ammunition were also stolen with the handgun,” police said in a statement.

Barrett indicated the officer involved in this shooting was indeed wearing a body camera and it was operating.
http://louderwithcrowder.com/chaos-in-milwaukee-after-police-shoot-armed-suspect/#.V7GrZCgrKUk


So, man steals guns and ammo, runs from police, refuses to put said gun down, gets shot. Seems pretty open-and-shut case, but #BLM I guess.

In response to a completely reasonable shooting, people are now vandalizing police vehicles, buildings, and become arsonists. And you wonder why black people have such a bad reputation.

[Flapjack]

http://louderwithcrowder.com/chaos-in-milwaukee-after-police-shoot-armed-suspect/#.V7GrZCgrKUk


So, man steals guns and ammo, runs from police, refuses to put said gun down, gets shot. Seems pretty open-and-shut case, but #BLM I guess.

In response to a completely reasonable shooting, people are now vandalizing police vehicles, buildings, and become arsonists. And you wonder why black people have such a bad reputation.
If we were judging races based on the actions of a few, white people would be by far the worst so don't go there.

I would only support the police shooting if the gun was aimed at them.

[Just JT]

http://louderwithcrowder.com/chaos-in-milwaukee-after-police-shoot-armed-suspect/#.V7GrZCgrKUk


So, man steals guns and ammo, runs from police, refuses to put said gun down, gets shot. Seems pretty open-and-shut case, but #BLM I guess.

In response to a completely reasonable shooting, people are now vandalizing police vehicles, buildings, and become arsonists. And you wonder why black people have such a bad reputation.

Think that last part could of been worded a bit better tbh. You can't across th board say that all black people have a bad rep cause of some racially motivated riots. In basic principal, there asserting their fights, as a group of people collectively in a community. Something I'm pretty sure any population has/does, or what ever, in some way shape or form. Not condoning violence here.

As for the shooting, yeah, stolen gun and ammo, what did he expect to have happen when he has a 6 year vet cop point ping his gun at him? Not something to riot over. But there have been seemingly questionable shootings between while cops and black suspects in the region recently. I get the frustration.

Just don't wana perpetuate any hate here

[PlasmaHam]

I would only support the police shooting if the gun was aimed at them.

You don't see white people rioting against the police, teaching their children to kill police and destroying police property. But I guess the actions of a group you and most leftists seem to praise don't matter when they begin to step out of line.

So, you are basically saying the criminal should have the first shot? That seems unnecessary risky for police officers.

[Flapjack]

You don't see white people rioting against the police
Geeee I am not sure why?? Hmmmmmmmm almost like there is systematic racism that favours white people?
teaching their children to kill police
Yep that is a coming of age ceremony in every black family! What children are being taught to kill police??
But I guess the actions of a group you and most leftists seem to praise don't matter when they begin to step out of line.
Pleaseee see how it is a group not a race? How would you like it if someone thought you were a weaboo because you was the same race as me? Multiply that feeling by 1000x and have everyone thinking it and you should see why so many black people are pissed off.

Even if you hate BLM, please see that it is the group not their race.



So, you are basically saying the criminal should have the first shot? That seems unnecessary risky for police officers.
No?:D:D:D Just that the cop actually be in danger before he shots his gun. Before you ask, being black does not put the cop in danger.

[Leprous]

You don't see white people rioting against the police, teaching their children to kill police and destroying police property. But I guess the actions of a group you and most leftists seem to praise don't matter when they begin to step out of line.


Because white people are all nice and great and would never dare to lay a finger on anyone. As Flapjack said, white people would be the worst race out there if we judged them like you and many others judge black people (and Muslims) but you seem to ignore that part.

[Dalcourt]

http://louderwithcrowder.com/chaos-in-milwaukee-after-police-shoot-armed-suspect/#.V7GrZCgrKUk


So, man steals guns and ammo, runs from police, refuses to put said gun down, gets shot. Seems pretty open-and-shut case, but #BLM I guess.

In response to a completely reasonable shooting, people are now vandalizing police vehicles, buildings, and become arsonists. And you wonder why black people have such a bad reputation.

Lol just wonder why BLM would be so upset cuz the cop was black, too.
And no I wasn't thought that killing cops and / or destroying property of others is okay...even though I grew up in a "bad neighborhood"

I'm not saying this is a senseless invalid emotion. But there's better ways to get yiur need meet that to act like children and resort to violence

If those people have that much energy they should buss them down to Louisiana and help out the 20,000 displaced people from flood and help get their lives back I order imstead of creating havvock and more umheaval in our world

oh no please not we have enough freaks in this state already...lol

If we were judging races based on the actions of a few, white people would be by far the worst so don't go there.

I would only support the police shooting if the gun was aimed at them.

Well I guess he aimed the gun at him...so quite a clear case.

Still as you said...you can't judge all the people due to these things. it's so sad to see how the actions of a few handful of thugs kinda disgraces the whole black population of Milwaukee

[Flapjack]

Well I guess he aimed the gun at him...so quite a clear case.

Still as you said...you can't judge all the people due to these things. it's so sad to see how the actions of a few handful of thugs kinda disgraces the whole black population of Milwaukee
The cop said he did, cops have claimed some ridiculous stuff in the past when shooting black people.

No they only judge everyone based on the few to justify their racism. They would never do that to a white person!

[Dalcourt]

The cop said he did, cops have claimed some ridiculous stuff in the past when shooting black people.

No they only judge everyone based on the few to justify their racism. They would never do that to a white person!

Since the cop was black too I don't think he shot him for racist reasons.

[Flapjack]

Since the cop was black too I don't think he shot him for racist reasons.
Oh that does relieve my doubts quite a lot:) although it has been shown that blacks actually view other blacks as more aggressive and guilty etc etc. The racism runs deep in the US so I wouldn't rule it out.

[PlasmaHam]

Because white people are all nice and great and would never dare to lay a finger on anyone. As Flapjack said, white people would be the worst race out there if we judged them like you and many others judge black people (and Muslims) but you seem to ignore that part.

How would whites be the worse race? I'm interested in why you think that. I don't think blacks are the worse race, but the statistics clearly show that it is not unreasonable for more blacks to die from police than whites.

There is a huge difference between the color of your skin and whether or not you follow a death cult.

Oh that does relieve my doubts quite a lot although it has been shown that blacks actually view other blacks as more aggressive and guilty etc etc. The racism runs deep in the US so I wouldn't rule it out.
I saw a study recently that showed nearly every race in America, including blacks, saw black men as the most dangerous group. Perhaps, just perhaps, if that is the general consensus, then maybe there is some truth to that and not just people attempting to suppress blacks or the other mumbo-jumbo the media puts out.

[Leprous]

How would whites be the worse race? I'm interested in why you think that. I don't think blacks are the worse race, but the statistics clearly show that it is not unreasonable for more blacks to die from police than whites.


White people plundered and colonised Africa, causing the current amount of problems there now. White people took the land of the native Americans, killing ALLOT of people and tribes. White people got the slaves from Africa into the US, eventually being the cause of the current racial problems the USA has now.

White people fucked up Iraq and eventually made ISIS what they are now. And let's see, what race is generally seen as the most racist one (which I'm not saying is true)? White people!

[Porpoise101]

In this case, the situation is clear. The man pulled out a gun, a stolen one nonetheless. Milwaukee is one of the most segregated areas in the nation, if not, the most segregated. The outrage is understandable, the violence unacceptable.

[Dalcourt]

I don't think blacks are the worse race, but the statistics clearly show that it is not unreasonable for more blacks to die from police than whites.

Still if you don't think that way about blacks why you make it sound like you do?




I saw a study recently that showed nearly every race in America, including blacks, saw black men as the most dangerous group. Perhaps, just perhaps, if that is the general consensus, then maybe there is some truth to that and not just people attempting to suppress blacks or the other mumbo-jumbo the media puts out.

Lol, I see only one black man as dangerous and thats my Dad...otherwise, I never thought about that and wouldn't have any idea what to answer if I had been interviewed for such a study.
Did the study say why people think that?
Did the study provide any explanation for it why black me are so dangerous?
The general consensus is a great deal indoctrinated by the media...via news but also movies/television shows and other that portray people according to racial stereotypes. Like e.g. Asians are nerdy and good at Maths in tons of TV shows...whereas Blacks or Hispanics are mainly the bad guys.

Those things we learn from an early age on and that's why we all believe it.

Nobody says that all Blacks are still suppressed but even if you belong to the middle class you have to fight hard and are often often confronted with racism.
So how do you think you feel in the poorest parts of the cities then? And how do you think you are treated?
Of course this doesn't justify violence and crime...this is still unacceptable. But the frustration with your life situation and the temptation of committing crimes...it's understandable to some extent.
(lots of what I said here is inspired by what the headmistress of our school told us today)

[Sailor Mars]

This thread is going off topic and becoming borderline offensive.

I recommend either quitting debating, as this isn't even an ROTW thread, or apologizing to each other and proceed to do the former.

[Dalcourt]

This thread is going off topic and becoming borderline offensive.

I recommend either quitting debating, as this isn't even an ROTW thread, or apologizing to each other and proceed to do the former.

Okay whoever feels I have wronged them with whatever I said I apologies for it as it wasn't my intention at all.

[Stronk Serb]

Shoot the bastard. No matter if he is white or black, shoot him down. Also FBI statistics show that 2 times more whites than blacks are getting killed by police, so the street sweeping argument is a fallacy.

[Allbutanillusion]

If those people have that much energy they should buss them down to Louisiana and help out the 20,000 displaced people from flood and help get their lives back I order imstead of creating havvock and more umheaval in our world

Amen too that. But don't you recognize that "take what you can, and give nothing back" is the motto of minorities/blacks.

They would much rather use their energy to be professional "victims" and exploit the race card to get more handouts/freebies through distortion and manipulation of half truths or total untruths/promoting completely false narratives!!:mad::mad:

http://endingthefed.com/baltimore-prof-white-people-should-deposit-their-unearned-wealth-in-black-accounts.html

And who says that minorities can't be Bigots!! Morons/intellectually inferior people that's who

[Just JT]

Amen too that. But don't you recognize that "take what you can, and give nothing back" is the motto of minorities/blacks.

They would much rather use their energy to be professional "victims" and exploit the race card to get more handouts/freebies through distortion and manipulation of half truths or total untruths/promoting completely false narratives!!:mad::mad:

http://endingthefed.com/baltimore-prof-white-people-should-deposit-their-unearned-wealth-in-black-accounts.html

And who says that minorities can't be Bigots!! Morons/intellectually inferior people that's who

That's an opinion IMO, and I don't think you can truthfully apply that to all "minorities"
That's just unfair and prejudicial
And I never said minorities can't be bigots or what ever, bigots, just like any other human attribute, comes in all shapes colors and sizes.

Seems to me that if you want to use catagories like these to describe populations of people, we could also simply say all Catholic priest are pedophiles right?

[sqishy]

It's getting real messy on the gun + police brutality front again...

Hopefully riots due to events involving guns, police brutality, and the approaching presidential election, won't all happen at once.

[PlasmaHam]

The media and Milwaukee, when will they admit what it really going on, idk. There was a little victory involving cnn, who admitted to editing Milwaukee videos to make the protestors seem peaceful. This violence will stop when the media admits to what's going on.

[sqishy]

This violence will stop when the media admits to what's going on.

So you see the media having a casual relation with these riots?

[Flapjack]

This violence will stop when the media admits to what's going on.
Yeahhhh because that is how riots stop xD Remember the London riots?

[mike16m]

people should stop rioting. it makes their group/cause look bad

[eggs2006]

people should stop rioting. it makes their group/cause look bad

I agree.