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Porpoise101
August 7th, 2016, 10:05 PM
Bangkok (CNN)-Thai voters have approved a new draft constitution, the country's election commission said Sunday evening.

With 94% of ballots counted, 61.4% voted in favor and 38.6% voted against the draft constitution, which could give extra powers to the military.
Thailand's military seized control of the government in a 2014 coup.
The referendum Sunday also asked Thais to vote on whether to allow the country's Senate to jointly vote for prime minister along with the House of Representatives.
About 58% voted to allow the Senate to jointly vote for the prime minister, while almost 42% rejected it, according to the Thai Election Commission.
An estimated 50 million eligible voters went to the polls on Sunday, according to the commission.
Official results from Sunday's voting will be declared Wednesday.
More Here (http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/07/asia/thailand-new-constitution/)

I personally do not know enough about Thailand to say whether this is good or bad. I do think that the stability from the military is good. Thailand has suffered from instability for pretty much the whole of the 20th century. If many freedoms are being sacrificed it may not be worth it though. One interesting effect is that the baht's (Thai currency) value has risen as an effect of this referendum. Thoughts?

sqishy
August 8th, 2016, 10:23 AM
Bangkok (CNN)-Thai voters have approved a new draft constitution, the country's election commission said Sunday evening.

With 94% of ballots counted, 61.4% voted in favor and 38.6% voted against the draft constitution, which could give extra powers to the military.
Thailand's military seized control of the government in a 2014 coup.
The referendum Sunday also asked Thais to vote on whether to allow the country's Senate to jointly vote for prime minister along with the House of Representatives.
About 58% voted to allow the Senate to jointly vote for the prime minister, while almost 42% rejected it, according to the Thai Election Commission.
An estimated 50 million eligible voters went to the polls on Sunday, according to the commission.
Official results from Sunday's voting will be declared Wednesday.
More Here (http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/07/asia/thailand-new-constitution/)

I personally do not know enough about Thailand to say whether this is good or bad. I do think that the stability from the military is good. Thailand has suffered from instability for pretty much the whole of the 20th century. If many freedoms are being sacrificed it may not be worth it though. One interesting effect is that the baht's (Thai currency) value has risen as an effect of this referendum. Thoughts?

So generally does this give a higher chance of a coup in Thailand?

Porpoise101
August 8th, 2016, 10:41 AM
So generally does this give a higher chance of a coup in Thailand?
It depends. The new constitution makes it so the military is more entwined with the government. So essentially the fate of the military is the same as the government's. Currently, the military administration is considered to be stable, so I do not think that this will promote a new coup for now.

phuckphace
August 8th, 2016, 10:52 AM
so are they a dictatorship now? they should shoot all the sex tourists

Porpoise101
August 8th, 2016, 11:05 AM
so are they a dictatorship now? they should shoot all the sex tourists
I would think that the politicians support the brothels, probably taking some money off of the top. I am pretty certain they profit from the misery of their citizens.

phuckphace
August 8th, 2016, 11:09 AM
I would think that the politicians support the brothels, probably taking some money off of the top. I am pretty certain they profit from the misery of their citizens.

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sqishy
August 8th, 2016, 11:11 AM
It depends. The new constitution makes it so the military is more entwined with the government. So essentially the fate of the military is the same as the government's. Currently, the military administration is considered to be stable, so I do not think that this will promote a new coup for now.

So the military could start a coup more easily, but the immediate effects of doing so would entail much more fracture - greater risk is involved.

Flapjack
August 8th, 2016, 11:51 AM
Stability is good but I do not think a military should have political power.

Porpoise101
August 8th, 2016, 12:05 PM
Stability is good but I do not think a military should have political power.
Well in Thailand you have two alternatives to military currently. You have the corrupt political elite who are greedy and opportunistic. They are not good because they are spineless in the face of crime. The other choice is to revert to Absolute Monarchy, the way Thais lived for hundreds of years before the Thai revolution of 1932. It was a life without modernity and a life without freedom. It is worth noting that Thailand was fairly stable until this change from absolute to constitutional monarchy, as the monarchy is centuries old.

Right now the political power of the military is a fact in Thai politics. The true question is when Thai politicians will implement needed reforms to criminal justice and the political system.