Should I Ask?

[Just JT]

I think this is the best place to post this, but not sure

I help my moms friend a couple days a week watching her 2 kids while she works. They are 8 and 10 and really cool kids. They have a pool in the back yard and we're always in it. So what I've noticed is they, and me to, have like no tan line. And they have made a couple of off the cuff comments about going nude when swimming. I get the feeling their mom allows this, and I'm thinking of telling them it's ok to do if they want to. I'd do,it to, it's so much nicer. It's not a sexual thing or anything like that.

But I'm thinking if I ask mom she might think it's weird I ask or something, or should I just let them domit and not say anything about it?

[Cadanance00]

Ask them if their mom lets them swim with suits. If she does, let them. I wouldn't myself without checking it out with her. There's too much abuse around to raise her suspicion.

"--- and --- swim without suits. Do you mind if I do?" should be an acceptable question.

And by all means don't do anything that can be construed as remotelysexual with them, even if they suggest it.

[Just JT]

well yeah id never do anything like that, thats justv wrong....
im prety sure they do swim without suits, like i said, there are no tan lines, but yeah i should ask first....i just dont want to come off as soiundinglike a perv to her or something by asking

[SethfromMI]

to be honest, while there is a good chance they do, I would wait for either the mother bringing it up or when they go swimming wait to see what they actually do. if they do go swimming nude, you can then more casually ask the mother if it is ok for them to do so.

as far as you asking if you can...while I know you would never harm or abuse them, I am not sure it would be proper to ask. why it shouldn't be a big deal, the question may come off wrong. however, you know her better than we do. if you feel comfortable enough asking in such a situation, you can. if I was watching in that situation, I would probably wear something (trunks, underwear, etc.) even if they went swimming nude, unless I knew it was not at all a big deal. these days, you just never know how people will take that stuff

[Sports Boy]

Out of curiosity, what sexes are the kids?

[Just JT]

to be honest, while there is a good chance they do, I would wait for either the mother bringing it up or when they go swimming wait to see what they actually do. if they do go swimming nude, you can then more casually ask the mother if it is ok for them to do so.

as far as you asking if you can...while I know you would never harm or abuse them, I am not sure it would be proper to ask. why it shouldn't be a big deal, the question may come off wrong. however, you know her better than we do. if you feel comfortable enough asking in such a situation, you can. if I was watching in that situation, I would probably wear something (trunks, underwear, etc.) even if they went swimming nude, unless I knew it was not at all a big deal. these days, you just never know how people will take that stuff

wel they wear suits when we all swim, weve been in the pool a bunch of time. I dont think id ask if I could, i was more thinking about them, if they usually do, cause it seems like they do, but only wear a suit for whn im there or when people are at their house. but yeah it might still be strange if i ask. just idk think tey should be able to if they usually do, and dont do that because im there.

Out of curiosity, what sexes are the kids?

their both boys

[SethfromMI]

wel they wear suits when we all swim, weve been in the pool a bunch of time. I dont think id ask if I could, i was more thinking about them, if they usually do, cause it seems like they do, but only wear a suit for whn im there or when people are at their house. but yeah it might still be strange if i ask. just idk think tey should be able to if they usually do, and dont do that because im there.



their both boys

yea there is no reason to ask. if they do they do. obviously they do it when your not around anyways so what the parents might let them do in private/just family is between them.

[ceto2]

I have this very lovely male friend who I would like to go out with. He 23 fit very good looking and make me feel so happy. I want to ask him out but worry incase he say no

[SethfromMI]

I have this very lovely male friend who I would like to go out with. He 23 fit very good looking and make me feel so happy. I want to ask him out but worry incase he say no

assuming everything is legal, I guess you have to decide if the risk is worth it or not. maybe he will say yes. maybe he will simply say no. it might cause problems between you two. you know him best so you have to decide if it is worth it or not

[Just JT]

I have this very lovely male friend who I would like to go out with. He 23 fit very good looking and make me feel so happy. I want to ask him out but worry incase he say no

Well I'm glad you found someone you like that way, and no offense, but I think there's probably a better section for that than here ok?

assuming everything is legal, I guess you have to decide if the risk is worth it or not. maybe he will say yes. maybe he will simply say no. it might cause problems between you two. you know him best so you have to decide if it is worth it or not


I agree....^^

[SethfromMI]

Well I'm glad you found someone you like that way, and no offense, but I think there's probably a better section for that than here ok?




I agree....^^

I thought I would mention that to him, but I figured I would help him real quick

[ClaraWho]

The rule when working with kids, which is what you are doing however unofficial, is to never do anything that could be misconstrued.

That means no nudity outside of pre-agreed bathing arrangements, giving privacy when changing etc.

I'd play it safe and tell them no nudity when strangers are around, it's good practice to keep them safe from creeps who would do them harm.

~ Clara

[Just JT]

The rule when working with kids, which is what you are doing however unofficial, is to never do anything that could be misconstrued.

That means no nudity outside of pre-agreed bathing arrangements, giving privacy when changing etc.

I'd play it safe and tell them no nudity when strangers are around, it's good practice to keep them safe from creeps who would do them harm.

~ Clara

I hear ya, and your right, but it's also a very private yard so no pervs that could easily see in or anything

My only thoughts are of their comfort I guess. I mean yeah I'm a bit of a naturist to so....but they, the boys and mom may not know that....
But yeah, your right, it should be all about keeping their privacy

[Cadanance00]

I think it's OK to ask the boys if their mom lets them swim naked. A lot of people do in their own pool so it's not like an unusual question. If they say yes I think it would be okay to tell them you don't mind it when you're there but don't drop your pants until you get the OK from their mom.

[Just JT]

I think it's OK to ask the boys if their mom lets them swim naked. A lot of people do in their own pool so it's not like an unusual question. If they say yes I think it would be okay to tell them you don't mind it when you're there but don't drop your pants until you get the OK from their mom.

I could do that, but I'd feel weird saying that to them with out their mom knowing first. It's one thing if it me and my friends, but these guys are younger and all. They would probably go for it, but if something was seen or said.....

Think I'll wait and see, leave it alone like SethfromMI was saying, it's a family thing. And if they want me to know or something, they will let me know

[jamie_n5]

I would ask the boys if their mom lets them swim nude and if they say they do then tell them that you will talk to their mom and ask her if it is alright for the 3 of you to swim nude together. I wouldn't just go ahead and do it because it could lead to a bunch of trouble for you if she is not okay with you all doing that.

[Kyle37]

If I was in your situation, I would wait until they actually swam nude before doing it yourself. Then try to bring it in casually, not making it out as if I planned it or anything, as that would sound kind of creepy. Just act like I forgot my swimsuit one day and ask if its okay to swim without them.
You might never get a chance to have the joy of swimming nude in their pool, but don't push it.

[pjones]

I would ask the boys if their mom lets them swim nude and if they say they do then tell them that you will talk to their mom and ask her if it is alright for the 3 of you to swim nude together. I wouldn't just go ahead and do it because it could lead to a bunch of trouble for you if she is not okay with you all doing that.

talking with the boys is a good idea and if they do swim nude would take it step further by suggesting they ask their mom when JT is there if they can do it. They may not feel comfortable enough when a non family member is there, or their mom may have already set up a rule to that effect.

[Just JT]

If I was in your situation, I would wait until they actually swam nude before doing it yourself. Then try to bring it in casually, not making it out as if I planned it or anything, as that would sound kind of creepy. Just act like I forgot my swimsuit one day and ask if its okay to swim without them.
You might never get a chance to have the joy of swimming nude in their pool, but don't push it.

I wasn't asking about me swimming nude, I'm not concerned with that, I've done that plenty on my own other places

My question is more about if I should ask about the boys. Ask the mom if they do and let her know if she was ok with it and if the boys were it's ok with me for them to do it. But I don't wana sound creepy either. And I wouldn't plan something like that, if I legit forgot I wouldn't swim that day unless I knew before hand it was ok. And by OK I mean with them and their mom. I don't feel it's right to do that with them without mom knowing. To plan something like that...idk, makes me feel like I had other motives that made me think to plan something like that


Jamie_n and pjones I like yiur ideas. I might do that

[Kyle37]

I wasn't asking about me swimming nude, I'm not concerned with that, I've done that plenty on my own other places

My question is more about if I should ask about the boys. Ask the mom if they do and let her know if she was ok with it and if the boys were it's ok with me for them to do it. But I don't wana sound creepy either. And I wouldn't plan something like that, if I legit forgot I wouldn't swim that day unless I knew before hand it was ok. And by OK I mean with them and their mom. I don't feel it's right to do that with them without mom knowing. To plan something like that...idk, makes me feel like I had other motives that made me think to plan something like that


Jamie_n and pjones I like yiur ideas. I might do that

Oh in that case I don't really see a problem with young kids swimming nude in private, its generally accepted in my culture. If they regularly swim nude in their pool, you probably shouldn't push them because they will probably end up doing it anyway while you're there. I would suggest against asking their mom as she would be highly critical of why you're asking.

[Just JT]

Oh in that case I don't really see a problem with young kids swimming nude in private, its generally accepted in my culture. If they regularly swim nude in their pool, you probably shouldn't push them because they will probably end up doing it anyway while you're there. I would suggest against asking their mom as she would be highly critical of why you're asking.

It's a big deal here in the USA, idk why, it just is. Yeah, I'm thinking at some point their just guna do it, and that'll be that. And if that happens, I won't stop them, but then I can talk to their mom in like a legit way, and ask her if she's ok with it. I'll let her know I am to, but do t wana do anything that's against her rules or anything

[SethfromMI]

It's a big deal here in the USA, idk why, it just is. Yeah, I'm thinking at some point their just guna do it, and that'll be that. And if that happens, I won't stop them, but then I can talk to their mom in like a legit way, and ask her if she's ok with it. I'll let her know I am to, but do t wana do anything that's against her rules or anything

asking her after they have done it would seem more reasonable. then it is a actual question you just want to make sure she is ok. I wouldn't ask her before, nor would I suggest asking if you can swim nude with them

[Just JT]

asking her after they have done it would seem more reasonable. then it is a actual question you just want to make sure she is ok. I wouldn't ask her before, nor would I suggest asking if you can swim nude with them


That's my plan....there's no good way to do this without possibly sending the wrong message. So I'll wait and see what happens, go from there, and it might never happen

But also in that conversation I think the door would be open about me joining them in some way, not sure how, either way, think I'd just do it either way, depending how that conversation goes all together

[pjones]

That's my plan....there's no good way to do this without possibly sending the wrong message. So I'll wait and see what happens, go from there, and it might never happen

But also in that conversation I think the door would be open about me joining them in some way, not sure how, either way, think I'd just do it either way, depending how that conversation goes all together

a touchy subject but pretty sure you'll recognize the right way to handle it if and when the time comes

[Just JT]

a touchy subject but pretty sure you'll recognize the right way to handle it if and when the time comes

Yeah, I think at first I had this thing in my head about it, knew it was complicated. But also after talking here, some good advise, and it all makes sense, and it's just guna be what it is, and that's that, a wait and see what happens, is all I can do. They, the family has to be the initiator on this. It could be something that's very personal to the three of them, and I don't wana in invade.

So thanks everyone, I'll keep you updated if anything changes!!

[Dalcourt]

Yeah, I think at first I had this thing in my head about it, knew it was complicated. But also after talking here, some good advise, and it all makes sense, and it's just guna be what it is, and that's that, a wait and see what happens, is all I can do. They, the family has to be the initiator on this. It could be something that's very personal to the three of them, and I don't wana in invade.

So thanks everyone, I'll keep you updated if anything changes!!

Lol reading this thread somehow completely freaks me out. I guess you got by now that I'm a total prude when it comes to skinny dipping and being naked around others...so I would never ever even think about tan lines in other people. And I would never ask anyone about swimming naked and stuff.
Well wouldn't let my kids be naked in the pool at home anyway if they are older than maybe 5.
And as a parent I'm sure I'd totally freak out if someone would want to be naked around my kids or my kids being naked around him/her.

Never got what's so great about wearing nothing....but yeah I don't judge.

[Just JT]

Peanut_ Well yeah, on some levels your very right. And others, it's different. I think most people are fairly reserved about nudity in general, especially Americans. But, it also is kinda growing trend to. Some people are nudist or naturist or some where I between them with their life styles. It's a personal choice really. And is hard to understand unles you've experienced it or are into it. And even then, the ones who have, sometimes keep that private, kinda like what we're talking about here, so it's kinda hard to get if you don't know. I mean yeah the signs are there as far as I'm concerned, but for me to ask, after doing this thread, I think would be inappropriate. Mainly cause of the relationship I have with the boys. If they were my friends and same age, just hanging out, that's different. But if this happens or is prompted by them, that's also different

[Dalcourt]

Yeah I see...I get all this nudist and naturist stuff but I would be way to afraid to get a sunburn on my dick to go around naked outside.