What is your opinion of Bernie Sanders and his campaign?

[The Socialist]

Hi.
I have supported Bernie throughout the race for delegates to get the nomination. I think he's truly interested in We The People unlike the other candidates like Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. He ran a great grassroots campaign that did indeed evoke a revolution and I'm sad to see it come to a close. Heck, even Donald Trump classified Bernie as a fellow outsider against the Crooked Hillary. Yes, if I were able to vote, it would be for Hillary Clinton because I'm a Democrat. Thoughts and opinions?:)

[Judean Zealot]

...That it's over? It was also rather fiscally uninformed, so I'm not sorry to see it go. To his credit, however, Bernie did remain honest and held his convictions in good faith, which is admirable. Even so, his supporters turned indefensibly violent and confrontational.

[The Socialist]

...That it's over?

I'm reckoning it's over. Correct me if I'm wrong. Mathematics is against Bernie due to the rigged delegate counts by Hillary.

[sqishy]

My opinion on his campaign is that it reached very impressive heights, but it's over now. He did well, and I feel that the media went hell bent on talking about Clinton disproportionately, but there is no 'should have/could have/would have' - there's not much to talk about Sanders at this point, except wondering what he'll do as a final gesture basically.

[The Socialist]

My opinion on his campaign is that it reached very impressive heights, but it's over now. He did well, and I feel that the media went hell bent on talking about Clinton disproportionately, but there is no 'should have/could have/would have' - there's not much to talk about Sanders at this point, except wondering what he'll do as a final gesture basically.

I agree, he is planning to work with Clinton to defeat Trump, not sure what that means. I doubt he'l be selected for VP.

[sqishy]

I agree, he is planning to work with Clinton to defeat Trump, not sure what that means. I doubt he'l be selected for VP.

I think the same.

[Vilnius]

I will not be voting for him, and I wouldn't support him as President, as I don't agree with forced wealth redistribution. The only positive thing I can really say about him is that he puts his money where his mouth is. As for Hillary, I think she's one of the worst presidential candidates in history. And Trump's just a dumbass.

[sqishy]

I will not be voting for him, and I wouldn't support him as President, as I don't agree with forced wealth redistribution. The only positive thing I can really say about him is that he puts his money where his mouth is. As for Hillary, I think she's one of the worst presidential candidates in history. And Trump's just a dumbass.

This is why I allow myself a few moments to enjoy the relatively good far-off spectating distance to this event :D .

Every US election is interesting, but this one will be remembered for a while to come I feel.

[The Socialist]

I will not be voting for him, and I wouldn't support him as President, as I don't agree with forced wealth redistribution. The only positive thing I can really say about him is that he puts his money where his mouth is. As for Hillary, I think she's one of the worst presidential candidates in history. And Trump's just a dumbass.

I agree, I don't think redistribution of wealth is very good either. I think really does put his money where his mouth is and that's why a lot of people like him. I see him as very honest and kind.

This is why I allow myself a few moments to enjoy the relatively good far-off spectating distance to this event :D .

Every US election is interesting, but this one will be remembered for a while to come I feel.

It definitely will be. 40 years later, our kids will be asking us why we let Trump or Hillary be President haha.

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[DriveAlive]

I think Sanders was a phony. He has been in politics forever and has accomplished next to nothing. Former Senator Barney Frank called him a fraud.

[Flapjack]

I'm reckoning it's over. Correct me if I'm wrong. Mathematics is against Bernie due to the rigged delegate counts by Hillary.
Dude. I am a Bernie supported myself and even I think this is a stretch! I know there was accusations of rigging the delegate counts but the numbers involved were little and she won by a lot. Unless she gets indicted it is over for Bernie.

I think Sanders was a phony. He has been in politics forever and has accomplished next to nothing. Former Senator Barney Frank called him a fraud.
Well to be fair to him the US has been verryyyy right wing and unlike others he does not go where the votes are so that explains his lack of accomplishments.

[DriveAlive]

Dude. I am a Bernie supported myself and even I think this is a stretch! I know there was accusations of rigging the delegate counts but the numbers involved were little and she won by a lot. Unless she gets indicted it is over for Bernie.


Well to be fair to him the US has been verryyyy right wing and unlike others he does not go where the votes are so that explains his lack of accomplishments.

Yes, but Frank was talking about his service as a Vermont Senator who claims to be this socialist crusader for the left, but in reality, is a political shyster.

[Flapjack]

Yes, but Frank was talking about his service as a Vermont Senator who claims to be this socialist crusader for the left, but in reality, is a political shyster.
I just found an article talking about his opinions on bernie and it seems like he is a clintion supported and as establishment as someone can get. Loads of people hate bernie, why is this one special?

[DriveAlive]

I just found an article talking about his opinions on bernie and it seems like he is a clintion supported and as establishment as someone can get. Loads of people hate bernie, why is this one special?

Because Barney Frank was one of the most highly respected, effective, and powerful liberal Congressmen we have ever had. Without Frank, the Left would not have achieved many of their political agendas over the years. Most importantly, he was an openly gay Senator who has pushed for gay rights before it was popular.

[Flapjack]

Because Barney Frank was one of the most highly respected, effective, and powerful liberal Congressmen we have ever had. Without Frank, the Left would not have achieved many of their political agendas over the years. Most importantly, he was an openly gay Senator who has pushed for gay rights before it was popular.
He sounds like a good man but if he supports clintoon I don't value his political opinions tbh! People like cenk uygur support bernie and I truely value his opinion, heck I wish cenk could be president over bernie!

[lyhom]

tbh I kind of liked him a few months ago, but the fact that he hasn't dropped out despite it literally being impossible to win the nomination barring an indictment or a sudden health issue from hillary is ridiculous to me

[Uranus]

Bernie Sanders :
"As President, I will invest $1 trillion..."
Idgaf what youre investing in. That definitely means a Hell of a lot more debt America's in which is not gonna make America "Great Again'

[Stronk Serb]

Sorta glad he dropped out. Now I just hope Hillary doesn't win.

[The Socialist]

I think Sanders was a phony. He has been in politics forever and has accomplished next to nothing. Former Senator Barney Frank called him a fraud.

I haven't studied Bernie's prior accomplishments in office as a Senator. I do believe his agenda will be hard to achieve and will take a lot of money but it can be done.

[DriveAlive]

I haven't studied Bernie's prior accomplishments in office as a Senator. I do believe his agenda will be hard to achieve and will take a lot of money but it can be done.

The better question is why would you want his strategy? Higher taxes, free college, single payer healthcare, political correctness, national debt, pulling out of foreign relations?

[The Socialist]

Yeah, it'll be tough and outright impossible for Bernie to win unless Hillary is indicted-probably won't happen. I enjoyed supporting him and I liked his ideas, he had a good run.

The better question is why would you want his strategy? Higher taxes, free college, single payer healthcare, political correctness, national debt, pulling out of foreign relations?

I can afford taxes as he claims those taxes are for the rich, 1% which I'm not a part of. I support free or reduced cost college tuition because hell, I don't have $35,000 under my bed ready to spend on college tuition and student loans. Universal healthcare has proven effective in Canada and many European countries. As for pulling out of foreign relations, I think you mean going into war? Wars are way more expensive and take a far bigger toll on our national debt and economy than tax hikes on the rich 1% ever will. We as a country need to stop focusing on who's going to bomb us first or take our guns and start focusing on who doesn't have a home, who doesn't have enough to eat, who can't afford to pay for their medicine and hospital costs. That is why I support Bernie Sanders as I think he fights for America not the billion dollar corporations.

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[Flapjack]

Bernie Sanders :
"As President, I will invest $1 trillion..."
Idgaf what youre investing in. That definitely means a Hell of a lot more debt America's in which is not gonna make America "Great Again'
But we can spend 1 tril on the Iraq war when the republicans want it. Also, it was 1 trill over 5 years so 200 bill a year. That sounds like a lot but it's really not for a country like the USA. If you ask me he doesn't go far enough.
Yeah, it'll be tough and outright impossible for Bernie to win unless Hillary is indicted-probably won't happen. I enjoyed supporting him and I liked his ideas, he had a good run.

The movement dosen't die when he loses the primary:)

[The Socialist]

But we can spend 1 tril on the Iraq war when the republicans want it. Also, it was 1 trill over 5 years so 200 bill a year. That sounds like a lot but it's really not for a country like the USA. If you ask me he doesn't go far enough.

The movement dosen't die when he loses the primary:)

Yep, that's the reason for the revolution. Already, thousands are registering for city councils, county commissions and other influential seats because they were inspired by Bernie. Luckily, there will be more progressive candidates in the future running for President because they were influenced by Bernie. Bernie and others have been pushing for a total ban on assault weapons, well what do you know? A law is passed from Congress allowing states the decision to ban or not to ban. Great things happen when we work together.

[DriveAlive]

Yeah, it'll be tough and outright impossible for Bernie to win unless Hillary is indicted-probably won't happen. I enjoyed supporting him and I liked his ideas, he had a good run.



I can afford taxes as he claims those taxes are for the rich, 1% which I'm not a part of. I support free or reduced cost college tuition because hell, I don't have $35,000 under my bed ready to spend on college tuition and student loans. Universal healthcare has proven effective in Canada and many European countries. As for pulling out of foreign relations, I think you mean going into war? Wars are way more expensive and take a far bigger toll on our national debt and economy than tax hikes on the rich 1% ever will. We as a country need to stop focusing on who's going to bomb us first or take our guns and start focusing on who doesn't have a home, who doesn't have enough to eat, who can't afford to pay for their medicine and hospital costs. That is why I support Bernie Sanders as I think he fights for America not the billion dollar corporations.

-Please do not double post. Use the "Edit" or the "Multi-quote" buttons in the future. - Emerald Dream

The 1% is not the stratospheric wealth that you think it is. In fact, Bernie wants to heavily tax the top tax bracket, which is all upper class.

Some people do not need to go to college. We need plumbers and farmers and construction workers too.

Universal healthcare is an overly burdensome and costly system that leads to lower healthcare standards and a decrease in research. Why not go to a veterans hospital if you want government healthcare. I am all for healthcare and insurance reform, but I think our money should be going toward Medicaid, not universal healthcare for anyone, regardless of if they can afford it. This would be far more effective to help those who are actually in need, while also keeping costs lower.

Bernie is against most foreign trade and wants to end many of our partnerships with other nations. This is destructive to the world and the American economy.

[Moriya]

It sucks that he dropped out, but I don't really care anymore tbh. I'm either gonna be dead because of Hillary or in Kenya because of Trump. I much prefer the former.

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[Vlerchan]

I don't support Bernie Sanders for reasons relating specifically to his fiscal policy and approach to monetary independence.

I have pretty significant issues with those reasons being offered thus far, though.

[...] as I don't agree with forced wealth redistribution.
Literally all government policies, including the police, result in marginal loss for the wealthier and a marginal gain for the poorer.

Unless you're an anarcho-capitalist - and fair enough if you are - this position is ideologically untenable.

"As President, I will invest $1 trillion..."
Idgaf what youre investing in. That definitely means a Hell of a lot more debt America's in which is not gonna make America "Great Again'
He's investing in infrastructure. Currently the United States is paying very low rates of interest (0.5% / 2%) on it's debt. Whilst continued expansion of the debt burden is untenable - currently debt-servicing the United States accounts for roughly 6.5% of outlays, which is bad - where the productivity gain from better infrastructure outstrips the interest rate as current, the investment here can be seen to pay for itself.

What we know about Big-push projects tells us that there is no such thing as Multiple Equilibira, but that is not to say that investing now would be welfare enhancing into the very long-run, and pay itself off.

[...] Higher taxes [...]
The issue isn't higher taxes, the issue is that where the taxes are being levied promotes significant distortions.

[...] free college [...]
I don't support free college education, since I feel it undermine market signalling.

Nonetheless, in a similar vein to the response I offered to Continental, this is an investment (in human capital) and where tertiary education is human capital enhancing, there is no reason to believe that this is necessarily a bad use of funds.

Like the above, I don't disagree, but this lacks the nuance required.

[...] political correctness [...]
I'm unsure how you believe that the president is actually going to produce this, regardless of who they are.

On domestic issues, the presidency is especially weak.

[...] national debt [...]
You just berated him for increasing taxes. He's increasing them, so this doesn't increase.

[...] pulling out of foreign relation [...]
I haven't read his foreign policy plan, but given your support for Trump, I find this criticism bizarre.

A law is passed from Congress allowing states the decision to ban or not to ban.
First, welcome to ROTW.

Second, the understanding I have is that the Supreme Court refused to hear a case on the legality of state-level assault weapons bans, as appealed from lower courts (which it has done multiple times before). This afternoon, rather, the Senate blocked increased measures with regards to gun control.