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LoverForever200
April 3rd, 2016, 03:40 PM
Hello everyone. First of all, I'm french and not bilingual so i'm sorry for my poor language. I hope I'm in the good category for my post. I'm going to try to summarise my story which is quite long.

So I'm a guy, 16 yo and I'm going to high school. Let's talk about my two friends. Because my story is about 3 persons. So there's this girl, F. I've met her 10 years ago, she is my bestfriend since that day. We have done all our studies together, and will still do now, we re going at the same high school. There's this guy, K. We met him 5 years ago with F. Very nice, he became my best friend too. And be became F's boyfriend.

We were all friend and everything was all right till 3 years ago, when I was in 4eme (8th grade). This year, I started to notice that he was staring at me. I started to have feeling for K. He was the first and only guy I felt something for. I mean, I've loved girls before I liked him and I still do. Anyway, I started to love him, I told him, in facebook, not the good way I know and I regret. I have never seen his reaction live. So he told me he did not feel this way about me, he liked me as a friend.

So we both talk about it with F, she s my bbf and her gf so she would understand. And we were just 13. And I told them that I might have been wrong about my feelings, I had probably consider him as a great friend. That's true, I've trouble to make difference between friendship and love. And I told him, yeah we re just friends, I'm going to forget about this stupid feelings.

But I never did... I still felt something strong for him, he also still stared at me. I considered it as strong friendship until last year. He invited me F and another friend for a sleepover. F slept in his room, our friend solo in a sofa. And K and I both slept in the second sofa. (hot details coming)

During the night, I felt excited and I kinda touch him. Actually I touch his cock. I don't know how to describe how I felt (don't have the vocabulary...) but i was turned on and I was curious to touch it. I don't know if he was asleep but the following morning, when we were talking to each others or even to our other friends he looked at me in a weird way, like he had something to ask. But he did not, and we did not talk about the previous night.

Till last year we re not in the same high school. In france middle school lasts 4 years and high school lasts 3 years. So I can't see him every day, but we text each other a lot. And when F invites us with other friends he stills look at me especially when he s talking, like if he wants to make sure I'm listening.

This year, till September, we saw each other a lot. I'm going talk about only some moments. So the 11th of november (the day off), F invited only both us to sleepover. She was sleeping in her room, and with K we both sleep in a sofa. Something happened this night too. I touched him again. But I'm quite sure he was not asleep and let me do. He breathed irregularly and he moved aside when I stopped.

Anyway, I felt guilty about that, then I decided to meet him on December to apologise, I came to meet him in a public. Place. And I was like, it s the last time I talk to him, he will never forgive me... Then I told him I had never stop to love him till 8th grade, that I had touched him twice. I remember his reaction. I was staring the ground and he told me (trying to translate...): I don't blame you, I was asleep the whole time, but we re never gonna sleep together. And I think you should get you a girlfriend to forget about your feelings.

That's what he said. I was shocked. Because first he didn't blame me for what I had done. And next he even forgave me. And he was right I had to forget, I mean it's true, he s the only guy I had feelings for. Except him, I love girls. I love girls emotionally, physically and sexually. He's not a girl, but he s the only boy I love in the three ways as well. I decided to take some distance because I wanted to forget about him. I was okay with that.

I invited him for Xmas (so the distance did not last long^^)
We were only me and him, playing video games. I don't like to lose, so when I lose, and Ive lost, I fought with him (on a friend way). But I realised we were closer than before. Yes before he was a little touchy, but during the Xmas Holiday, I invited him three times, and all the time, he was close to me, always teasing me, being touchy...

That's what I don't understand, you tell a friend you love him and you've abused him and he is getting closer to you... My question is: do you think is straight? Okay I know it's hard to answer. But do you think his behaviour toward me is normal? I mean would a straight guy who has a girlfriend be that close to a guy in lover with his. And especially getting closer after I told him.

The most recent fact I can tell you is last week, for "Paques" (I do not know how to translate sorry). F invited us with another friend to sleepover. As always, I slept with K in the same bed. Even if I felt umconfortable at the begging, he was also uncomfortable but he does not want to admit it in our texts. Anyway we slept together. I did not sleep a lot but nothing happened this night. He was just very close to me in the bed. I mean I was turning face to the wall, he was turning face to me and getting closer. And the morning I noticed he was moving every 5 secs. Okay he moves a lot during the night, but Im pretty sure he was awake the morning. So he was moving a lot and he put his leg on mine and stayed like that for about 10 mn. I was faking to be asleep ^^

So. Thank you for those of you who read it all. So sorry for my poor English I'm trying to do my best. About the story, I'm still asking myself about K. Do you guys think he might felt Something for me? I mean I do not see myself with him later, but I would not say no if something could happen between us. He s with F, who is still my bff by the way, and she of course does not know about the nights. So yes my situation is complicated.

Ratman1234
April 3rd, 2016, 05:39 PM
Well K could have feelings for you or maybe he just really values you as a friend so he forgave you. Nevertheless I don't think you should try and make advances in him behind F's back especially as she is your best friend. Just ask yourself if a relationship with K is worth losing your friendship with maybe F and K

LoverForever200
April 3rd, 2016, 11:56 PM
Thank you Ratman for your answer. Yep you are right that is already what i'm doing cause it is the most respectful towars F. Since November I do not try anymore. I think that if he feels something for me he will tell me or he will act in this way. I've already done a lot. It has to come from him.

So I shared my story with you guys. And ratman, you think he might have some feelings for me? I guess it's a possibility, but can you tell me what makes you say that please?

lemondrop
April 4th, 2016, 02:59 PM
This is tricky ..well your both friends seem very ,very friendly and forgiving (true friendship) i would say that you should tell F that you have feelings for K ... Like come out as a BI and ask her what you should do? Or just come out to him as BI or gay.. So maybe he will feel more confident about this thing..dunno..tricky,tricky

And if u come out ask him does he like boys ^.^

LoverForever200
April 4th, 2016, 04:04 PM
Thanks for your answer ^^ Well you know he already knows about my feelings for him. So he knows I'm kind of bi (even if he s the only boy I like). And I can't tell F. She already has family trouble in this moment, I don't want to embarass her with me in love with her boyfriend you know... So K knows about the situation, I guess it's up to him.

And about the question if he likes boys, that's true Ive never asked him about that. But I think He would say no.. and I don't really know how to talk about that with him. Like: "oh just asking, but do you like boys?" I'm talking with him right know (it's 11 p.m so we have about 30 mn left to talk to each other. Do you think I should talk about that now in a text?

lemondrop
April 4th, 2016, 11:47 PM
Thanks for your answer ^^ Well you know he already knows about my feelings for him. So he knows I'm kind of bi (even if he s the only boy I like). And I can't tell F. She already has family trouble in this moment, I don't want to embarass her with me in love with her boyfriend you know... So K knows about the situation, I guess it's up to him.

And about the question if he likes boys, that's true Ive never asked him about that. But I think He would say no.. and I don't really know how to talk about that with him. Like: "oh just asking, but do you like boys?" I'm talking with him right know (it's 11 p.m so we have about 30 mn left to talk to each other. Do you think I should talk about that now in a text?

my response is too late, bcuz i just woke u. You should talk about that face to face, through wire you can't tell...you don't see the face and etc.

LoverForever200
April 5th, 2016, 12:10 AM
Don't worry I did not talk about that yesterday. I'm going to try to talk to him face to face as you just said someday^^. Thank you :)

DoodleSnap
April 5th, 2016, 02:51 PM
I can see why this is a difficult situation.

I have said, and I will always say that communication is the most important thing in a relationship, of any type. But I think that you understand this: you have to be honest, and explain clearly how you feel for anything to work. This situation is more difficult however, as K is already in a relationship. I think that the best thing to do is to hold back now: he knows how you feel, so it is now on him to work out his feelings and tell you what he wants, how he feels about you, etc.

Good luck.

LoverForever200
April 5th, 2016, 03:26 PM
Thanks ^^ And yes I think you are right, communication is very important to have a sane relationship with someone else. And now I guess it is up to him. I'm just gonna ask him if he ever liked boys somehow or not. I don't know yet how I'm gonna ask it but I'll try^^ Thanks everyone for all your advises :)

LoverForever200
April 22nd, 2016, 03:38 PM
Good evening everyone :)

So, I have not ask K yet, I did not get the right moment to ask it. But, tuesday, I'll invite him for a sleepover (Thanks, hollidays!!!). I was thinking about how to ask, and I think I've found. Playing truth or dare. It's just a game, and we will only be the two of us, so I will ask him if he ever liked boys, or if he ever thought about doing somehing with a guy. Do you guys think it's a good idea?

Plus, i'd like to find some moves to do in the night, to figure out how he feels about me. I mean, I can sleep naked (or almost) and ask if he minds? What do you think about this idea? Then, I also had the idea to hug him during the night, while i'm asleep (or faking it)...

Well, I'm looking for ideas, not too much, but some ideas that can help me figure out. As I said, i already have some ideas, but do you think it's good doing them? Thanks in advance guys!

RichD
April 25th, 2016, 06:07 PM
LoverForever200, let me offer you my humble advice. From the way you describe K it sounds like he may be feeling a certain attraction for you, too, but is not yet ready/willing to admit to it; he does have a girlfriend to consider, after all. I would suggest, just continue along with what you're currently doing, and "test" the waters continually. Sleeping naked might be too abrupt; try just boxers or briefs if the two of you aren't used to it. DO NOT force your hand. When K is ready, he will tell you; he already knows you are.

BTW. Pacques is Easter in English.

---Rich

Living For Love
April 26th, 2016, 05:41 AM
I think you should simply forget K, otherwise you'll put the friendship you have with him in danger. I think he already warned you enough times that he is not interested in a romantic relationship with you. Plus, he has a girlfriend, whom you are friends with. I honestly think you should just remain friends, stop touching him during the night and simply move on.

LoverForever200
April 27th, 2016, 06:15 AM
Hi. So thank you both for your answers^^ So K slept with me tonight. I slept in boxers, cause yes I thought it would be too brutal. He did not mind, actually he did not care ^^ But this night, he was very touchy. He put his leg on mine and i did the same, and we teased each other a lot while playing videogames. Later we watched some porn video, my phone had no connection. So we used hearphones for us two in his phone^^ I loved that video, and I finally got a boner. I told him I needed to calm down and I turn away from him. Let me explain: at the right of my bed, there s a wall, and at the left nothing. So I slept on the right, and I turn toward the wall. When he understood I had a boner he teased me xD. I have a method to calm down, repeating the word pineapple (it's something I hate) so it usually works^^ But K was like: "I loved that video, especially when she..." so I could not get rid of that boner xD He was proud of himself^^ Then it finally calmed down and we fell asleep^^ During the night, he always put his leg on mine, I don't know if he was awake or not, but I liked it so I did the same^^ And nothing else happened.

So, considering this night, and your advices, I think I'm just gonna consider him as a very close, touchy and teasing friend. And we re gonna see what will happen next between us. I won t say no to him, but I won't do anything to make her friendship uncomfortable, especially toward F. And don't worry: I'm not touching him anymore, not in this way^^

Ps: Thanks I guess I will sleep smarter tonight^^