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Chapperz16
March 8th, 2016, 09:59 AM
Why do people always consider politics to be a fair process? I'll give you a bit of background. So at my school we are holding a mock election and series of debates concerning the Brexit referendum we will be holding on the 23rd of June. The leave group is spearheaded by myself and a few others whilst the stay party is led by people who I distinctively argue with a lot in political issues, I.e. labour party.

So both parties have began to campaign to either leave or stay. Now our party have adopted tactics which can be seen as unfair I.e using all the papers and gaining control if the polling stations by placing our own people there. We have also started to remove their posters and what not to break their campaign apart. Our popularity as a party has increased a fair deal and we now seem set to win the votes.

However the stay group have caught onto our tactics and are complaining of unfairness. Before we started this thing, we were told to treat it as if it were the proper thing and you were actually part of a political party. I cannot see why they are getting all upset about it.

Political victory must be achieved through any means possible and if our strategy is a tad militant then so be it. As long as the common students fail to see what is truly happening then all is good.

What are you thoughts on political tactics?

Vlerchan
March 8th, 2016, 12:25 PM
Why do people always consider politics to be a fair process?
Because underlining the preference for the entire democratic order is the belief that - in order for the optimal solution to be visible: and thus capable of being chosen - people must decide best on the basis of the most complete information. Blocking the distribution of information reduces the chance that the this optimal solution is reached and thus from a probabilistic view the procedure itself is suboptimal.

This also holds in non-democratic regimes where citizens face the costant choice as to whether to continue to endorse the current dictator or not.

Chapperz16
March 8th, 2016, 12:48 PM
Because underlining the preference for the entire democratic order is the belief that - in order for the optimal solution to be visible: and thus capable of being chosen - people must decide best on the basis of the most complete information. Blocking the distribution of information reduces the chance that the this optimal solution is reached and thus from a probabilistic view the procedure itself is suboptimal.

This also holds in non-democratic regimes where citizens face the costant choice as to whether to continue to endorse the current dictator or not.

But within the world of politics, there is intrigue and deception on many levels. Therefore on the face of it, politics may appear fair but the people are to be led. In they are swayed in the correct path without their knowledge then so be it

Vlerchan
March 8th, 2016, 01:30 PM
But within the world of politics, there is intrigue and deception on many levels.
That doesn't make it ethical or conductive to what's optimal.

You're asking for what reason people prefer certain procedures. The fact that what occurs doesn't line up with these preferences doesn't invalidate those preferences.

Therefore on the face of it, politics may appear fair but the people are to be led.
Just to emphasise: That something Is doesn't mean it ought to be.

There's no reason to presume that people manipulating others to their own gain ought to be the future state of affairs because it is the current state of affairs. To put it in more concrete terms: Unethical behaviour persists in all aspects of administration but that's no reason to just roll over and accept the unethical behaviour as holding some value.

In they are swayed in the correct path without their knowledge then so be it.
The point of free and open debate is that communities can then find the correct path.

Your insistence that the Brexit side need to void the rules of this in order to feel secure in their own presumed correctness is worrisome when considered inside this framework.

Porpoise101
March 9th, 2016, 02:37 PM
Don't silence others by removing their stuff. Otherwise I don't care, while it may be a tad rude.

Stronk Serb
March 11th, 2016, 06:04 AM
You are doing what the Progressives aee doing here. 24/7 propaganda.

phuckphace
March 11th, 2016, 06:11 AM
:lol3: EU crew btfo

realpolitik motherfuckers!