Rant about this kid in my class

[PinkFloyd]

Okay, so everyone has people they dislike. That's a given. But why? What's the reason that these people are disliked? It's usually someone being stuck up, douche baggy, a smart ass, or worse.

The kid I dislike has all of these traits and they just eat me alive every single day because he's in more than one of my classes. We'll call him joe.

First off, Joe is a liar. He has this need to one-up whatever you say, even if what he says doesn't make any sense. Not too long ago, me and some friends were on my laptop looking at posts on a website a lot like ifunny. We were talking about the car I bought. Joe jumped into the conversation, asking me about it. Like how much horsepower it had, the features, etc. etc. Well, he then went on to talk about the Used Bentley Continental GT he was going to buy with the money he just got done earning from his CROPDUSTING COMPANY. Mind you that it is the dead of winter in Minnesota. He then started talking about how great the car is and what not.

So there's his need to one up everything you say.

Then there's this. Joe is gay. I don't have a problem with that aspect of him whatsoever. Why should I, right? Well, just today, when he was bragging to me about how he knows so much about science and I don't I confronted him about being a stuck-up dickhead. Then he said that I just don't like him because he's gay. I told him this:

"Joe, I dislike you because you have this need to one up whatever I say. I dislike you because you have to act like a no-it-all even though your GPA is actually probably lower than mine. I dislike you because you are a smug asshat that lies about their cropdusting company. Oh, about that, how do you fly a cropduster in Minnesota in fucking dead winter? What crops are there to dust? Now, please enlighten me as to why I would even take note of something as personal as your sexuality when you have this clusterfuck of reasons why I and my friends dislike you so much."

It actually went just like that with a few name changes and removing of proper nouns that would give away parts of his identity.

Rant over. I think...

[ksdnfkfr]

Hopefully what you said will have some effect.

[PinkFloyd]

Hopefully what you said will have some effect.

He was almost speechless afterwards. I'll have to find out.

[drew6]

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[Croconaw]

He sounds like a douche. I'm sure he was pretty pissed after what you said to him. :lol:

[PinkFloyd]

I think joe has a few screws loose. I'm not kidding. Crop dusting in the winter? Reality is over here and joe is over there.

The gay angle, he's probably just used to being defensive about it, so it's his default way of blaming people for their short comings so he doesn't have to deal with reality.

Hate? Does it really rise to that? I don't hate anyone. Never have actually. There are people I don't like or would rather avoid, but hate implies you care and think about him a lot. I'd just be polite and ignore him. Maybe be a little rude and flat out tell him the next time he chimes in on your convo that you don't care what he thinks or better yet, pretend he didn't say a thing and continue with the convo. He'll get bored and leave you alone.

He'll still be a mess, but the more you talk to him, the more crazy junk he's gonna say.

Hate was not a good thing for me to say. I was just lost control and kind of went on a rampage. I mean, I've been dealing with him for a few years now.I don't hate him. I don't hate anyone that I directly know.

[Its Pretty]

I don't think he's that bad of a guy. Maybe his life is just boring as balls and he wants to impress you. Maybe you could be less personal when dealing with him in the future, rather then ranting at each individual of his shortcomings (or traits that don't comfort you) By this I mean telling him to fuck off next time he bothers you. It seems to do wonders for the annoying people who tend to have problems reading body language. A simple 'fuck off' is more universal, and is understood by all.

[JamesSuperBoy]

Good advice there -

[LunarScorpio]

Sounds like a speech that might go home to him, hopefully you will see change. If he is really getting at you, it may be worth seeing someone about it

[Living For Love]

Based on my experience, those kind of kids always have loads of problems in their lives and try to hide them by making others think they're the best, and that they have everything they wish for. Hopefully, what you said will make him realise he's being quite a nuisance, and that probably everyone has already realised as well he's nothing more than a childish liar. BTW, do you think there's the possibility that he might have a slight crush on you?

[Gamma Male]

I knew a kid like tht once.
"Do you have a dog? How musclely is it? My dog has more muscles!"
"I'm a security guard at my dads armoured van company! I once shot a thief(he was only 13 years old)!"
"I'm related to *insert celebrity here*!"

[AlexOnToast]

I'm conflicted here. I know people exactly like him, always one-upping, always bullshitting on impulse almost, and all that crap. Yes, they really fucking aggrivate and annoy me, and Yes, these people do seem like they need a cold hard slap of reality right in the face to put them in their place.

But what I also look at is why people act like that. It's more likely than not that he is a very insecure person with a low self-image who deep down just want's to be accepted. Thats most likely the reason behind all the mentioned flaws in his behavior. So yes, his methods of trying to fit in are flawed, but I pity the poor guy really. Should he be condemned for that? I don't think so.
I'm afraid that saying something aggressive to him might only have damaged his self-image even more, and could easily have the opposite effect of "straightning him out"

What's done is done, and I'm not judging you. I would probably have freaked out at him equally if not greater. But when I think about it, I think a much better thing to do would to get him on his own, show a little understanding, explain to him that his incessant bullshitting and arrogant behavior is not going to make people like him... and maybe advise him to talk to someone about the deeper reasons for his behavior.

But again, I don't blame you at all for not putting up with him any more. Even if it's down to his own internal problems, you not obliged to put up with hassle like that all the time.
I'm just saying that maybe next time a better course of action would work better for everyone. We're all just human on the inside...

[JamesSC]

Wanna swap? Someone I know called Joe is so annoying, which is kinda why he got battered by someone...

It seems like your Joe has an ego problem, damage the ego.

[The Trendy Wolf]

Okay, so everyone has people they dislike. That's a given. But why? What's the reason that these people are disliked? It's usually someone being stuck up, douche baggy, a smart ass, or worse.

The kid I dislike has all of these traits and they just eat me alive every single day because he's in more than one of my classes. We'll call him joe.

First off, Joe is a liar. He has this need to one-up whatever you say, even if what he says doesn't make any sense. Not too long ago, me and some friends were on my laptop looking at posts on a website a lot like ifunny. We were talking about the car I bought. Joe jumped into the conversation, asking me about it. Like how much horsepower it had, the features, etc. etc. Well, he then went on to talk about the Used Bentley Continental GT he was going to buy with the money he just got done earning from his CROPDUSTING COMPANY. Mind you that it is the dead of winter in Minnesota. He then started talking about how great the car is and what not.

So there's his need to one up everything you say.

Then there's this. Joe is gay. I don't have a problem with that aspect of him whatsoever. Why should I, right? Well, just today, when he was bragging to me about how he knows so much about science and I don't I confronted him about being a stuck-up dickhead. Then he said that I just don't like him because he's gay. I told him this:

"Joe, I dislike you because you have this need to one up whatever I say. I dislike you because you have to act like a no-it-all even though your GPA is actually probably lower than mine. I dislike you because you are a smug asshat that lies about their cropdusting company. Oh, about that, how do you fly a cropduster in Minnesota in fucking dead winter? What crops are there to dust? Now, please enlighten me as to why I would even take note of something as personal as your sexuality when you have this clusterfuck of reasons why I and my friends dislike you so much."

It actually went just like that with a few name changes and removing of proper nouns that would give away parts of his identity.

Rant over. I think...

Personally, I don't think that you should have claimed "your GPA is actually probably lower than mine." It was almost as if you were one-upping him, in a sense. Besides, GPA doesn't determine one's intelligence level. Other than that, I respect the fact that you finally stood up to him. Hopefully it will make a difference, but you may want to consider apologizing to him, and perhaps you could elaborate as to how he could better himself.

[PinkFloyd]

Personally, I don't think that you should have claimed "your GPA is actually probably lower than mine." It was almost as if you were one-upping him, in a sense. Besides, GPA doesn't determine one's intelligence level. Other than that, I respect the fact that you finally stood up to him. Hopefully it will make a difference, but you may want to consider apologizing to him, and perhaps you could elaborate as to how he could better himself.

I might talk to him about what I said. I'm not really sure. At the time, I was really riled up and wasn't thinking. I normally wouldn't have made a remark about someone's gpa.

[The Trendy Wolf]

I might talk to him about what I said. I'm not really sure. At the time, I was really riled up and wasn't thinking. I normally wouldn't have made a remark about someone's gpa.

Honestly, I expected for this to have been a long time coming, and your true feelings were repressed which resulted in this (likely premeditated) outburst. I certainly won't hold your emotions against you.

I highly suggest discussing what you really meant when you had confronted him. If you don't create some kind of closure with your initial aggression, then you must logically consider it, and talk with him while both of you are in a fairly calm state of mind. If this matter is not attended to, then "Joe" will likely continue his actions, or he may even become confused about what he has done wrong. Please, meet with him as soon as you can, your anger digressed and your thoughts clear, and resolve this issue that you are having with him. I'm sure he has some words of his own to say to you, as well.

It seems like your Joe has an ego problem, damage the ego.

This is an example of what not to do in a situation like this. You don't know why he acts the way he does. Perhaps it is his ego, but compulsive lying might be another issue. You do not damage his ego, as that will only destroy his confidence and potentially ruin any self-esteem that he has. This issue must be addressed through calm conversation, not with mental damaging or deconstruction. The only way that someone may realize their own error is if the ego is confronted with their own mental aggression, in which they will put two forces against each other to form a new viewpoint. You mustn't ever intentionally damage the delicate system of consciousness that is the human mind, as this will only result in extreme psychological consequences.