War, is it iminent?

[tovaris]

With the balcans-coldren of Europe-boiling (Croatia buying ofensive weapons, Serbia responding buying russian defence sistems and mew planes...
Spain with the separatism, and same in Bavaria. Russia geting anoyed from constant provocations and NATO being thursty for new blod... Is Europe at the brink of a new war?

[sqishy]

War is always possible. With regards to Europe, I simply don't know.

[West Coast Sheriff]

I believe they will calm down and create some treaty.

[lliam]

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...


I don't see any war ... for the next decade so far

[Chapperz16]

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...


I don't see any war ... for the next decade so far

My first point to note is that the principle of countries have always existed, even with tribes of cavemen marking out their grounds. Humans like to own property and for this reason I think that imagining there are no countries is actually an infeasible task.

Secondly, religion is not a product of a country, instead it is the product of what I believe to be a selection of human ideas which formulate a theory of existence i.e. God. Therefore religion is a concept derived from free thinking and so it has nothing to do with a country itself.

Lastly human nature has shown to us time and time over again that the one skill which we are exceedingly better at than all the other animals on Earth is the ability to wage war. Since the rise of homo-sapiens, humans have evolved and carrying with them, the tools to make war 'morally right' and 'just'. Therefore I doubt that global peace will ever be an achievable goal.

On rebutting your last point, it is not crazy to argue that the road to war was not ignored when Turkey shot down a Russian plane last year in which three Russian servicemen were killed by anti-government fighters. That could very easily of been the first in many small regional ripples which could destabilise the Middle East itself and lead to a war breaking out among Russia, Syria and Iran + the Hebzelloh movement against the US led coalition.

[Porpoise101]

War is going away. It will be just tension and political conflicts. We may see more civil wars maybe.

[Uniquemind]

War is going away. It will be just tension and political conflicts. We may see more civil wars maybe.

We are at war. Both the war on terrors and the Korean War are ongoing.

With N.korea being in the news once more for testing the boundaries of what it can do.

[Judean Zealot]

War is going away. It will be just tension and political conflicts. We may see more civil wars maybe.

Unfortunately, I believe you are mistaken. Although currently we are quelling potential conflicts by the brute force of NATO, I'm unsure if that will outlive our lifetime.

[Porpoise101]

Unfortunately, I believe you are mistaken. Although currently we are quelling potential conflicts by the brute force of NATO, I'm unsure if that will outlive our lifetime.
As long as NATO countries dominate world trade, we won't have traditional warfare with any big nations. Nowadays it isn't profitable to make war. Only the autocratic countries may start something major because of this, as usually a republic tends to have less vitriol or nationalism. I do think we will see more and more insurgencies in the future. Remember: this is the most peaceful time in human history now, and most current conflicts are civil wars (Mexico, Syria, China, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine).

[Exocet]

Give it a few decades (most probably less) and there will be full scale civil wars across Europe.

[tovaris]

War is always possible. With regards to Europe, I simply don't know.
All it takes is 1 Gavrilo Princip.

http://www.mladina.si/media/www/slike/alternative/__400/1svetovnavojnamkina_1.jpg

I believe they will calm down and create some treaty.

Who? Young Russia?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/War_Flag_of_Novorussia.svg/900px-War_Flag_of_Novorussia.svg.png


Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
/.../


Welcome communist brother.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1360009%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/beatles10n-9-web.jpg



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I don't see any war ... for the next decade so far

I see it IN the next decade. I mean smaler wars are alredy merging and are all around us.

May i remind you of the 20th century, and WW2 in particular:


http://orig12.deviantart.net/d679/f/2014/280/c/a/international_brigades_poster_by_party9999999-d81y1p0.png


or WW1
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/polandball/images/4/4a/First_Balkan_War.png/revision/latest?cb=20150710092258



War is going away. It will be just tension and political conflicts. We may see more civil wars maybe.

civil wars will and have owergrown into world wars, see images abowe.

http://www.alba-valb.org/resources/lessons/the-spanish-civil-war-poster/photo

We are at war. Both the war on terrors and the Korean War are ongoing.

With N.korea being in the news once more for testing the boundaries of what it can do.

USA is also in Cold War 2, plus war with what is it now... ISIS... Asad... Iran??? North Africa... Somalia...


http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/War-USA-400x293.jpg






Unfortunately, I believe you are mistaken. Although currently we are quelling potential conflicts by the brute force of NATO, I'm unsure if that will outlive our lifetime.

NATO has been the one causing most of the shit.

http://persia1.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/propaganda_shutmouth.jpg

As long as NATO countries dominate world trade, we won't have traditional warfare with any big nations. Nowadays it isn't profitable to make war. Only the autocratic countries may start something major because of this, as usually a republic tends to have less vitriol or nationalism. I do think we will see more and more insurgencies in the future. Remember: this is the most peaceful time in human history now, and most current conflicts are civil wars (Mexico, Syria, China, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine).

This "every country has a McDonalds" theory has been around since the 80s, and look at the blody 90s...

Also BRICS:

https://openclipart.org/download/218968/BRICS.svg


Give it a few decades (most probably less) and there will be full scale civil wars across Europe.

Will we see another "War to end all wars"?

http://www.budapesttimes.hu/images/stories/News/20111111/Cheshire_Regiment_trench_Somme_1916-1B.jpg

[Judean Zealot]

tovaris

Regardless, NATO's sheer power overwhelms their enemies' offensive power almost instantly, thus paving the way for the explosion of insurgencies.

[tovaris]

@tovaris (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/member.php?u=68480)

Regardless, NATO's sheer power overwhelms their enemies' offensive power almost instantly, thus paving the way for the explosion of insurgencies.

khm, *fredom fighters

NATO is The war machine of today, they must create new wars and enemis (#orwel) to justify their exstance.

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2025086

[lliam]

My first point to note is

i agree with all points ... in fact that songtext was meant to be ironic. :D

Welcome communist brother.

image (http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1360009%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/beatles10n-9-web.jpg)



I see it the next decade. I mean smaler wars are alredy merging and are all around us.

civil wars will and have owergrown into world wars, see images abowe.



Yo, bro!

In fact, that's the status quo already. IMO, this is practically a permanent condition in history of mankind.

Posts merged. Please use the "Edit" button next time. -Mars

[Chapperz16]

i agree with all points ... in fact that songtext was meant to be ironic. :D

Awkward......

[Living For Love]

Violent separatist movements and communist ideals are dead or dying in Europe, thankfully, so I believe the main threats Europe will have to face are immigration and terrorism.

[Porpoise101]

Violent separatist movements and communist ideals are dead or dying in Europe, thankfully, so I believe the main threats Europe will have to face are immigration and terrorism.
Yep and one can be controlled and one is made up of petty insurgents. Not much compared to one nation's entire resources being thrust at another.

[tovaris]

Violent separatist movements and communist ideals are dead or dying in Europe, thankfully, so I believe the main threats Europe will have to face are immigration and terrorism.

How about:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Estelada_blava.svg/2000px-Estelada_blava.svg.png

https://newcoldwar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Crimea-flags-and-image.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/War_Flag_of_Novorussia.svg/2000px-War_Flag_of_Novorussia.svg.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Flag_of_Kosovo.svg/2000px-Flag_of_Kosovo.svg.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Flag_of_Scotland_(navy_blue).svg/2000px-Flag_of_Scotland_(navy_blue).svg.png
All these separiatists, new separatists across europe

[Living For Love]

Yep and one can be controlled and one is made up of petty insurgents. Not much compared to one nation's entire resources being thrust at another.
Well, not much is being done to counter those problems I mentioned, though, so it probably isn't as easy and simple as you described.

[Porpoise101]

Well, not much is being done to counter those problems I mentioned, though, so it probably isn't as easy and simple as you described.
It's simple to stop radicalization; minimize corruption and and also give people an opportunity to improve themselves. As for immigration, allow immigrants to get political equality and let them into the bloodstream of your people.