Dealing with jealous guys in parties

[RSDYoungster]

Hey,

So I've been going to alot of parties recently. I am a junior in high school (17). Now I am good looking, popular, and have pretty good game so when I get in state I get great results. The only problem is this fat unibrowed senior who has a huggee ego from beating people up. Everytime I fix up a girl he would come and start pushing me away from the girl and insulting me, trying to fight, etc. How would I deal with this...

Now people would say to ignore/ aknowledge or befriend and he will go away, but in this situation were already not freinds and he has nothing else to do and won't go away without a fight.

I could easily fight him with all my freinds but that will take time away from game and fighting is never the solution.

I tried introducing him to girls to get him busy and like me, but he always would be like "You know this guy is weak, why do you even hang out with him hehe".

What would you recomend to do in this situations, or deal with other situations like this?

Thanks.

[Uniquemind]

Hey,

So I've been going to alot of parties recently. I am a junior in high school (17). Now I am good looking, popular, and have pretty good game so when I get in state I get great results. The only problem is this fat unibrowed senior who has a huggee ego from beating people up. Everytime I fix up a girl he would come and start pushing me away from the girl and insulting me, trying to fight, etc. How would I deal with this...

Now people would say to ignore/ aknowledge or befriend and he will go away, but in this situation were already not freinds and he has nothing else to do and won't go away without a fight.

I could easily fight him with all my freinds but that will take time away from game and fighting is never the solution.

I tried introducing him to girls to get him busy and like me, but he always would be like "You know this guy is weak, why do you even hang out with him hehe".

What would you recomend to do in this situations, or deal with other situations like this?

Thanks.

Is he the type of bully like Biff from "Back to the Future" kinda is in that movie?

Or is he also a smart intellectual bully?

[lliam]

I'm certain he's Biff. Even fight is never a solution, sometimes kick balls it is. Especially for Biffs. But girls will see it less that way. And Biff's are always a waste of time. Perhaps the presence of you and your friends as a group may cause Biff start to retreat without need to fight.

[Uniquemind]

Well one thing's for sure. If the bully is known for beating people up, he is not going to be very popular with girls.

Being a physical bully and dropping statements like "that person is weak and I am strong; why are you wasting time with them and not being with me?" is extremely presumptuous and is a turn off.

I advise you to take a leaf out of the passive-aggressive or "frienemy" textbook and just brush him off. If you're with a girl you want to get with then re-locate and get away from the party and the drama the bully causes.

Also talk to the host of the party to keep gatherings small and informal and secretive.

I don't really recommend violence, I acknowledge it's utility and function, but only after every recourse of non-violence, and law has been utilized meaning it must be done while legally considered self-defense.

However in some states, deadly force with a gun by the owner of the property with all the proper gun permits and registration can be used if he's a trespasser and is obviously threatening violence to you. However it depends on state law, the particular circumstances, and if alcohol is present with under age 21 people as it usually is at parties, well it's gonna turn the whole party-vibe down real quick as police will be there obviously and as they should be.


So I advocate the re-location and avoidance strategy, play to his ego, let him like the more powerful person in the room, and create a situation that allows you to walk away with the girl.

Observe him and if it seems like he's taking advantage of said girl, notify one of the girl's friends.

Trust me, girls will have another girl's back and any guy who helps in that way will earn major points from a girl's social network, as well as the girl herself.

Bullies like you described are like rapists and abusive boyfriends and husbands just waiting to happen.

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I also want to say that it is unwise, or at least I find it unwise to hook up with someone in a party environment when I know people with personalities like that bully are around.

What if you get into a private room, start doing sexual stuff, and then said bully and his friends burst into you're private moment, both of you are vulnerable and probably only partially clothed and suddenly the girl you were with is being forced to do things with the bully while he pushes you aside. (I.e. That situation almost occurred to a couple at a party I went to a year ago).

It's just a huge setup for a bunch of problems when these types enter parties.

OP also please state where you are from to get an idea about which laws you operate under for self-defense.

[AutumnWinds]

I'm certain he's Biff. Even fight is never a solution, sometimes kick balls it is. Especially for Biffs. But girls will see it less that way. And Biff's are always a waste of time. Perhaps the presence of you and your friends as a group may cause Biff start to retreat without need to fight.

Hey,

So I've been going to alot of parties recently. I am a junior in high school (17). Now I am good looking, popular, and have pretty good game so when I get in state I get great results. The only problem is this fat unibrowed senior who has a huggee ego from beating people up. Everytime I fix up a girl he would come and start pushing me away from the girl and insulting me, trying to fight, etc. How would I deal with this...

Now people would say to ignore/ aknowledge or befriend and he will go away, but in this situation were already not freinds and he has nothing else to do and won't go away without a fight.

I could easily fight him with all my freinds but that will take time away from game and fighting is never the solution.

I tried introducing him to girls to get him busy and like me, but he always would be like "You know this guy is weak, why do you even hang out with him hehe".

What would you recomend to do in this situations, or deal with other situations like this?

Thanks.

i kinda agree with this.

i think there is some value in standing your ground. don't go looking fora fight, but don't feel the need to back away. if biff insists on knocking you, call him on it, and let the chips fall where they will.

[Uniquemind]

i kinda agree with this.

i think there is some value in standing your ground. don't go looking fora fight, but don't feel the need to back away. if biff insists on knocking you, call him on it, and let the chips fall where they will.

You don't think it wise to first talk to the host of the party and keep "Biff" out that way first?

[AutumnWinds]

i'm not sure, honestly. i suppose that it doesn't hurt to try that option, but it's likely if biff is there the host of okay with it, or unwilling to kick him out. also, if it's multiple parties the logistics could get a little out of hand, and even if it were possible to turn the majority of people so against biff that he was forbidden from their parties, that sounds a bit more harmful than a potential butt kicking.

[Uniquemind]

Well I'll wait to hear back from the OP then for more details.