German police report describes ‘chaotic and shameful’ night of attacks on women

[Exocet]

Police in Cologne, Germany, were overwhelmed by groups of men attacking women in the city center on New Year's Eve, according to a leaked report.

An unidentified senior official who wrote the report for Germany's national police described a "chaotic and shameful" evening in which a lack of officers at the scene meant those there "reached the limits of their abilities pretty quickly," according to Der Spiegel, which obtained a copy of the report.

"Women, accompanied or not, literally ran a 'gauntlet' through masses of heavily intoxicated men that words cannot describe," the official wrote.

The report contradicts the Cologne police department's initial depiction of the night as "relaxed," a description that has since been recanted. Authorities now say that more than 100 women have filed criminal complaints of sexual assault — including two reported rapes — or thefts during the festivities that evening, according to the Associated Press.

Roughly 1,000 men described by officials as being largely of "Arab or North African origin" had congregated in the square outside Cologne station that night, with groups reportedly breaking off to assault women. Victims described a sense of lawlessness that evening as criminals flouted the law even with police present.

"They grabbed our arms... pushed our clothes away, and tried to get between our legs or I don't know where," one victim told the BBC News.


The rest at ; https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/01/07/german-police-report-describes-chaotic-and-shameful-night-of-attacks-on-women/

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Cologne attacks: mayor lambasted for telling women to keep men at arm's length

Cologne’s mayor has been widely criticised for suggesting that women “keep at an arm’s length” from strangers to avoid sexual harassment, after scores of women were sexually abused and mugged in the city during new year celebrations.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/cologne-attacks-mayor-women-keep-men-arms-length-germany

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Bavarian school warns girls should dress ‘modestly,’ due to Syrian refugees nearby

A school in Bavaria, Germany, has sent a letter to parents, asking them to ensure their daughters refrain from wearing revealing clothes, because refugee accommodation has been set up next to the school’s gym.

https://www.rt.com/news/270214-bavaria-muslim-school-clothes/

[Jinglebottom]

I was just reading about that earlier. What a pity, Europe is turning to shit. Don't say I didn't warn you. There is one and only one way to fix this: mass deportation. Spare no one, kick all of them out back to the shit holes they came from. What an utterly appalling lack of respect for foreign women. And these people were expected to assimilate? Biggest joke of the freaking century. I wouldn't be surprised if Europe was renamed to Eurostan in a few years, unless you do the smart move (which I have already mentioned). Coming up next: Sharia law. ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!

[Vlerchan]

This sort of behaviour was also reported in a number of other city's to a lesser extent.

Those implicated in this should be deported to their origin state. Governments should begin interning younger men along the same lines I've offered in other threads.

The attempts to integrate refugees into our societies should be restricted to monogamous families.

[Exocet]

I was just reading about that earlier. What a pity, Europe is turning to shit. Don't say I didn't warn you. There is one and only one way to fix this: mass deportation. Spare no one, kick all of them out back to the shit holes they came from. What an utterly appalling lack of respect for foreign women. And these people were expected to assimilate? Biggest joke of the freaking century. I wouldn't be surprised if Europe was renamed to Eurostan in a few years, unless you do the smart move (which I have already mentioned). Coming up next: Sharia law. ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!

Germany is on its way to become an utter trash just like Sweden is. But in a more worrying scale.

[Jinglebottom]

Germany is on its way to become an utter trash just like Sweden is. But in a more worrying scale.
Bucket list:
Take a trip to [-]Sweden[/-] [-]Germany[/-].

[Microcosm]

largely of "Arab or North African origin"
largely of "Arab or North African origin"
largely of "Arab or North African origin"
largely of "Arab or North African origin"

I think I found the problem.

[Vlerchan]

I think I found the problem.
I was actually hoping we could have a calm rational discussion on the topic.

People need to account for the fact that the perpetrators seemed to be by and large young single males - alienated: away from home - and drunk. Whilst the behaviour doesn't occur on the same scale it's been documented amongst the likes of soldiers stationed in foreign nations and miners operating in foreign districts.

Yes, these were reactionarys. But the tale doesn't - and shouldn't - end there because we decide it's as much as we need to suit some narrative.

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I should also add that the arrests have been "mostly north african" but we won't know what that means until we have names released.

[Microcosm]

I was actually hoping we could have a calm rational discussion on the topic.

People need to account for the fact that the perpetrators seemed to be by and large young single males - alienated: away from home - and drunk. Whilst the behaviour doesn't occur on the same scale it's been documented amongst the likes of soldiers stationed in foreign nations and miners operating in foreign districts.

Yes, these were reactionarys. But the tale doesn't - and shouldn't - end there because we decide it's as much as we need to suit some narrative.

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I should also add that the arrests have been "mostly north african" but we won't know what that means until we have names released.

'twas but a joke.

But they seem like pretty uncivilized people to me. If that's the reaction they have to being "away from home," then maybe they should go back home.

[Vlerchan]

But they seem like pretty uncivilized people to me. If that's the reaction they have to being "away from home," then maybe they should go back home.
The point I've made is that the uncivilised reaction doesn't occur just amongst Muslims. It also seems to have occurred amongst a certain subset of their population.

That's the reason I made the suggestions as I did in the first post in this thread. This is something we should have been looking out for regardless.

[Microcosm]

The point I've made is that the uncivilised reaction doesn't occur just amongst Muslims. It also seems to have occurred amongst a certain subset of their population.

That's the reason I made the suggestions as I did in the first post in this thread. This is something we should have been looking out for regardless.

I don't see the great appeal of insisting on integrating them at all. You've talked of certain economic benefits, but this kind of crime will most likely continue to happen the more are let in.

Having only monogamous families immigrate would probably help somewhat. I just don't see why introducing middle eastern Islamic culture is being made out by the media and lefts to be so fitting with Europeans. They aren't just going to perfectly or even close to perfectly integrate into European society. It will just create another confusing subset of European people.

You said "integration" so I'm assuming that you're talking about actually letting them into European cities with actual Europeans. Also, in the context of this thread it seems that's what ought to be discussed.

[Vlerchan]

I don't see the great appeal of insisting on integrating them at all.
I claimed that "attempts to integrate refugees into our societies should be restricted to monogamous families".

I'll be quite shocked if someone belonging to a family engaged in this behaviour.

I just don't see why introducing middle eastern Islamic culture is being made out by the media and lefts to be so fitting with Europeans.
Define: "fitting with Europeans" please.

You said "integration" so I'm assuming that you're talking about actually letting them into European cities with actual Europeans. Also, in the context of this thread it seems that's what ought to be discussed.
I would prefer that we just placed them all in compounds. The likelihood of that happening isn't what I'd prefer it to be though.

In such a case I think we should settle one family in each parish, yes, for integration.

From the beginning I've been opposed to piling them all into the same place. It leads to problems like this.

[phuckphace]

there's my "narrative" which goes like this:

"if the (entirely unnecessary) refugee resettlement program had never been started in the first place, those countries would today be several billion richer and the affected portion of their populace un-brutalized."

I quite like it because a) it's completely true, b) not hyperbolic, and c) cannot be debunked.

I raised the point in the other thread that, were the program legitimately humanitarian they would've enacted strict vetting measures from the outset and, more importantly would not have "needed" to engage in denial-filled hemming and hawwing once the predicted fallout came to light. nationalist scare-mongering!

[Vlerchan]

[...] (entirely unnecessary) [...]
For reference this is where I disagree.

I don't disagree that it's been an awfully implemented programme though and don't intend to defend it.

[Porpoise101]

Why deport them? They will do the same thing in their home country. You should execute sexual perverts, especially if they are foreign refugees. Any other way either drains European resources, doesn't give justice, or pushes the issue elsewhere.

[phuckphace]

For reference this is where I disagree.

I wouldn't have an issue with taking in handfuls of Middle Eastern Christians. the Islamists have been busily brutalizing Coptic Christians for example, although the blame for that can be traced back to the West toppling their dictators and paving the way for Islamists to gain traction. it's the least we can do imo

You should execute sexual perverts, especially if they are foreign refugees.

let me just say, I agree with the porpoise for once. however the cucked Germans would disagree (guess who ELSE executed people?? HITLER)

[Uniquemind]

Well since no nation is following Vlerchan's civil ideas.

Since that ship has sailed, I prefer the death penalty to those who raped women like this or did other sorts of Crimes.

When they come in DNA database them all, and put em in the refugee DNA database by crisis.

Then if they're caught take them and execute them the cheapest way possible.

1. Neck snaps

2. Lasers for decapitation on an assembly line

But only the guilty by DNA evidence should be treated this way.

Offer hope and rewards for good refugee behavior, and for bad refugee behavior make sure it's made clear what happens to them.

If I could be hired I'd do it myself for a euro a head.

[phuckphace]

I'm pretty sure West Euros forgot how to kill people, in fact I hear they all die at 30 after the crystal in their hand turns red

[Stronk Serb]

Well since no nation is following Vlerchan's civil ideas.

Since that ship has sailed, I prefer the death penalty to those who raped women like this or did other sorts of Crimes.

When they come in DNA database them all, and put em in the refugee DNA database by crisis.

Then if they're caught take them and execute them the cheapest way possible.

1. Neck snaps

2. Lasers for decapitation on an assembly line

But only the guilty by DNA evidence should be treated this way.

Offer hope and rewards for good refugee behavior, and for bad refugee behavior make sure it's made clear what happens to them.

If I could be hired I'd do it myself for a euro a head.

Why reward them? It is their obligation to behave well, I think that not being shorter by a head is reward enough.

[Uniquemind]

Why reward them? It is their obligation to behave well, I think that not being shorter by a head is reward enough.

I support both positive reinforcement psychology and punishment if said punishment makes logical sense even if dark.

I don't enjoy being dark, and I probably would be balancing out that with the fact I'm also merciful in some ways.

[Exocet]

I hope some of these women were at the train station "welcoming" them !

Enjoy.

[Jinglebottom]

I hope some of these women were at the train station "welcoming" them !

Enjoy.
"What could those poor, innocent refugees possibly do to harm us?" they said. :lol:

[Vlerchan]

It's always hilarious when woman are raped in ironic circumstances.

Top kek.

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I'm also wary about implementing capital punishment for rapists. It offers incentives to murder their victims.

[Porpoise101]

I'm also wary about implementing capital punishment for rapists. It offers incentives to murder their victims.
Didn't think about it in this way, I just figured they would mostly be deterred from doing the crime.

[phuckphace]

or we could just execute them before they rape, easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy

[GrossKahn]

Yap, the situation here is shit. Someone even wrote on a local news page that her friend got raped near the place we live by 8 refugees. The best part is, that some racist assholes are playing now selfjustice, and using this as an argument

or we could just execute them before they rape, easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy

There was even a politician who suggested to shoot into refugees when situations get out of control. Yep

[Gwen]

https://i.imgur.com/irWWqIQ.jpg
Good to know the influx of migrants is under a control. Many of the supporters of allowing migrants to enter have so quickly jumped towards condemning them, I would laugh it wasn't so tragic and that my own homeland wasn't one of the main victims to it.

[Exocet]

Yap, the situation here is shit. Someone even wrote on a local news page that her friend got raped near the place we live by 8 refugees. The best part is, that some racist assholes are playing now selfjustice, and using this as an argument



When the state is nowhere to protect the citizens,of course they will try to do justice themselves. And this won't be sweet.


There was even a politician who suggested to shoot into refugees when situations get out of control. Yep

In the past we used machine guns against illegal invaders... Is that different ?

[phuckphace]

There was even a politician who suggested to shoot into refugees when situations get out of control. Yep

if life gives you refugees, burn the refugee's house down

[Syzygy]

what did they think was going to happen when they had such a massive influx of people coming in from countries that are still stuck in the middle ages

[phuckphace]

Germans were told the new arrivals would be middle class doctors and lawyers that would enrich the nation with their mad skills

half true, they're gynecologists

[Exocet]

Germans were told the new arrivals would be middle class doctors and lawyers that would enrich the nation with their mad skills

half true, they're gynecologists

You made my day.

[Stronk Serb]

Germans were told the new arrivals would be middle class doctors and lawyers that would enrich the nation with their mad skills

half true, they're gynecologists

You, sir, have just won the Golden Squatting Slav Internet Badge, given by authorized Stronk Serb.

[dzoni]

Why do I have a feeling, someone is setting this up...