So...there's this guy...please help!

[Splat]

Hey guys!

So I need some help. There's this guy. He's awesome. Really smart and musical and he has a twin brother (although they don't like each other). He's in a different class at school and in none of my lessons apart from music. How do I at least get him to notice me a little? If I'm looking around and I catch his eye, I smile (but then, I smile at everyone). What do I do?
Does anyoneknow any good conversation starters that allow us to get to know each other but without making it obvious?

Splat x

[redrider12]

Be natural. I don't know you or who you are or what you're like. But the absolute worst thing you can do is be someone else to get him to notice you. Don't jump right in like you want to date him either. Just baby steps. Don't walk up and expect to be talking about any nebulous, deep stuff the first time. Just small stuff like saying hey and asking him little stuff about his classes and how his day's going and that kinda stuff.

[Splat]

Thanks :)
I'm not really sure what to do now though. He answered my first message a couple of days ago (I was surprised he was up at 3am) but I've messaged him a few times since then and although he has been online, he never reads them. Do I just wait? Or do i message again but this probably doesn't count as baby steps?

[redrider12]

If you can tell he's looking and he knows that you're trying to get a hold of him but he's not answering, I'd be very careful in trying again. Sometimes it all just gets overlooked though.
How did you all's first convo go? That can be a decent indicator of his actions

[Splat]

Well, a couple of days ago, I was in bed trying to pluck up the courage to say hi or something to him and whilst I'd been doing that, I'd been talking to one of my friends about something else. Anyway, because I was tired I replied to my friend but sent it to him instead of her. So he was like 'whutttt?' And because it was 3 am, I was surprised he was up and I guess stupidly said he was the wrong person and asked why he was up so late. He just said he didn't feel like going to sleep and that he was going to sleep then. Anyway, a few days later I said hi again but he hasn't read it...

[redrider12]

There's an interesting introduction..��
Maybe try to give him a little bit of time. I have another idea too, but I've very hesitant to say so without more information

[Splat]

Like what?

[redrider12]

Just give him time. If you've texted him twice relatively recently, give him space.

[Splat]

Thanks for all your help!
So, it's actually been 7 days since I last messaged him. Of course I'll say Merry Christmas to him tomorrow. Do you reckon it would be OK to ask him how his Christmas is going, or still just wait?
I hope this isn't annoying you - if it is, tell me and I'll leave you alone.

[redrider12]

Yes and no. Definitely wish him a Merry Christmas. Hell, I text most all of my contacts every Christmas even if I haven't talked to them in years. It's just a sign of good intent. A lot of what I sense is important here though is feel. Getting a feel for him and what he doesn't and doesn't like. It's hard when he doesn't answer you, I know. But just the fact that he doesn't (or hasn't) may well be part of the message he's trying to send.
That or he's just busy. Guys can be busy and very moody just like girls.

[hesaidhesaid]

Thats an odd introduction story not gonna lie. But yes...be natural, ask him how he is and talk about what his and your interests are.

[redrider12]

Step by step, though obviously. Don't go straight up asking him big stuff. Talk a few times first. Just like a hey whats up kinda thing.

[Splat]

So just so you know, I wished him a Merry Christmas and he came back and apologized for not replying. Turns out he didn't see it :)

[redrider12]

Glad to hear it! Stuff like that is pretty common - sounds like you maybe just overworried

[ashdyn]

Honestly try to strike up conversations with him in class/after class. In person conversations always make deeper connections that help you transition into better online chats.

Next time he's on super late you could re-create your original meeting but just funnier. Be like...damn you're still up?? Go to sleep!
And he'll be like lmao I'm not tired tho
Blah blah blah

[redrider12]

Be spontaneous more than anything else. Don't ever get into a habit of just "hey" "what's up". That's my biggest pet peeve. If I'm going to put any time into someone, I'd think they could do a little better than a textbook conversation

[Melodic]

Well you said he's musical. Strike a conversation about music. Compliment him about his music skills!

[SkyClad33605]

Ask him about things he likes, and if you aren't into that same stuff don't pretend you are. People can smell a fake. Just relax and try to be the real you and not a version of you that you are presenting to him.

Also, try talking about stuff you like. People like it when they are talking to a real person and not just in an interview. Good luck :)

[Microcosm]

If he's in any of your classes(or maybe even if he's not), you could ask him for his notes or if you could borrow a pencil or ask for help on a math problem or something like that. That casually breaks the ice for me most of the time.

[Splat]

Thanks all for the ideas! I'm slowly building up my confidence to message him but I'm always worried about bothering him! Lol

Anyway, don't want to sound greedy, but any other ideas would be cool later on! Perhaps I'll update if anything happens :)