Political Correctness raging out of control

[Judean Zealot]

Try not to rip your hair out when you read this (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/20/oberlin-students-cafeteria-food-is-racist.html).

Mods: my intent is to start a broad discussion, so ROTW instead of the chronicle.

Anyone care to defend the idea that cultural appropriation ought to be banned as 'micro-aggression'?

[Jinglebottom]

Food is offensive?! Now I've heard it all.

"Excuse me, sir, but this soup is an insult to my Asian heritage! How dare you! I demand I be compensated $1000 for emotional damage, or else America is an evil, racist nation."

[Judean Zealot]

1) I had a falafel in New York.
2) It was horrible.
:. Ergo, New York is racist.

QED

[Vlerchan]

Someone should remind those bigots that it was the arabs that invented universities.

Student politics has always been ridiculous basically.

[Stronk Serb]

I had my Chinese food prepared by a Serbian man, it doesn't taste the same. Serbia racist.
Oh no! I ate salmon sushi prepared with Norwegian salmon by a Serbian cook! How racist!
Honestly, a few years in the labour camps and these students will emerge as responsible, functioning members of society.

On a side note: I love it when the liberals do stuff like this, makes everyone take them less seriously

[Jinglebottom]

This guy in New York told me that he tried shawarma once and didn't like it. He basically just dissed the entire Levant and its culture. What in the world?

Done giving examples, but this is too funny. I believe these people are on-par with Tumblr. Man, that place is filled with continuous 24/7 bitching about some of the most trivial shit you'll ever hear.

[Kahn]

People will always find something to bitch about. The internet gives a voice to those who otherwise might go unheard, for better and for worse.

[lliam]

Cultures have always influenced each other.

e.g. Travelers brought new impressions from other countries back home and sometimes some part of a foreign culture became part of their own culture. And it may have arisen a new culture.

The ethnic history of Christi'nsanity is the best example. In all its facets of the good and bad sides.

And in the age of globalization, it is inevitable that such processes are aggravated.

Also, it isn't surprising if traditionalists oppose something like that cause of an imaginary loss of cultural identity.

But in the end they will lose. Cultures grow, change and become extinct during centuries. That's life.

[sqishy]

Yet again too much attention and opinion is directed at places that simply do not need it. There are more problems in the world, than apparently offensive food.

[Vlerchan]

The issue with cultural appropriation is when it bastardises the custom and in doing so reduces it to the sphere of mass culture. That's problematic insofar as it strips peoples of their distinct cultures. I'll explain. You see - cultures a meaningful because these have a connection to a people. Irish culture would cease to be a meaningful subject of reflection and attachment if it wasn't sacralised: held above universally-accessible mass culture.

It's possible to engage with and through that culture - To don that culture. This involves definitional acceptance from the people from where the culture originates - those people that define that culture and thus can delegetimise its expression in someone at an instance. Otherwise an expression becomes one of bastardisation and devaluation: When Sam Johnson decides refer to himself as Sun Bear and wear a native american war bonnet he devalues that culture. That subject ceases to be the sacralised subject it once was.

This is problematic when one considers the positions of marginalised cultural groups that lie beneath the yoke of another culture.

The problem with movements like this - and social justice movements in general - is that it does get featured in the media unless it's because it's been done horrendously. Like this one. The preparation of food isn't a cultural tradition and that extension is ridiculous. But Nian Ye Fan is - and it's quite arguable that Others accessing that culture on a whim is problematic for the Chinese and should end.

This post also doesn't mean I'm in firm agreement with the movement - it's not an issue I care too much about - but I'll offer up the otherside of the debate for the sake of fairness.

[Judean Zealot]

The issue with cultural appropriation is when it bastardises the custom and in doing so reduces it to the sphere of mass culture. That's problematic insofar as it strips peoples of their distinct cultures. I'll explain. You see - cultures a meaningful because these have a connection to a people. Irish culture would cease to be a meaningful subject of reflection and attachment if it wasn't sacralised: held above universally-accessible mass culture.

First off, while appropriation of cultural customs and such is annoying, I would venture, from anecdotal experience, that this tends to strengthen rather than weaken the culture which it was appropriated from.

Take for example the Sephardic Jews in Israel (of which I am one). Many aspects of our culture: food, music, accent, have been appropriated and bastardised by the European Jews. This hasn't weakened Sephardic identity, on the contrary, it's strengthened it. The vendor will proudly tell you that his baklaweh is "the real stuff, and not Ashkenaz shit". Appropriation creates a certain smugness that "they can't even get our accent right". It creates a certain esprit de corps.

It's possible to engage with and through that culture - To don that culture. This involves definitional acceptance from the people from where the culture originates - those people that define that culture and thus can delegetimise its expression in someone at an instance. Otherwise an expression becomes one of bastardisation and devaluation: When Sam Johnson decides refer to himself as Sun Bear and wear a native american war bonnet he devalues that culture. That subject ceases to be the sacralised subject it once was.


There is a difference between appropriating cultural elements and entirely subverting a cultural identity. The first is the normal course of human events whilst the second is a deliberate attempt to undermine the uniqueness of a particular culture.

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The other issue this brings to mind is the notion that we are all entitled to be defended from "micro-aggressions". This is the same wimpiness that needs safe spots and trigger warnings at every fucking event. I remember an incident when Christina Hoff Sommers was invited to give a lecture at Oberlin (yes, the same place that this foolishness is happening in) and the students who didn't want to be 'triggered' by her 'pro-rape' rhetoric had to make themselves 'safe spaces' with soft music and colouring books. It's pathetic that 20 year olds can't handle these things.

[Vlerchan]

First off, while appropriation of cultural customs and such is annoying, I would venture, from anecdotal experience, that this tends to strengthen rather than weaken the culture which it was appropriated from.

Take for example the Sephardic Jews in Israel (of which I am one). Many aspects of our culture: food, music, accent, has been appropriated and bastardised by the European Jews. This hasn't weakened Sephardic identity, on the contrary, it's strengthened it. The vendor will proudly tell you that his baklaweh is "the real stuff, and not Ashkenaz shit". Appropriation creates a certain smugness that "they can't even get our accent right".
Being entirely honest I've no idea whether it does or not.

I imagine the problem is that it's irrelevant if a group binds together insofar as their difference and it's sacralisation isn't recognised and thus it ceases to exist outside of that group. In the same sense someone's fundamental right to life - and their identity as a bearer - is a redundant concept if it's not recognised.

One better example might be the identities of transpeople in communities where this identity isn't recognised. Does it actually matter what these people believe?

There is a difference between appropriating cultural elements and entirely subverting a cultural identity.
The latter is worse than the former - but that doesn't make both problematic depending on the circumstances. When a group excludes someone from participation in a tradition or custom it becomes a definitional aspect of that tradition or custom that this someone is an illegitimate participant. Participation then is subverting the identity of that tradition or custom and my extension the identity of that group is it not?

It's pathetic that 20 year olds can't handle these things.
I agree. It's doesn't seem to be something that's happening in Irish colleges - mental health awareness and charitable giving are the main causes pursued - and with any sort of luck: it won't.

[phuckphace]

I'd argue that globalism has done far more to wreck and make a commodity of cultures and cultural identity than anything else. and I say that as a genocidal racist who likes a lot of ethnic foods.

once we've convinced ourselves that those "invisible lines on a map" (borders) are arbitrary and we're all one big nation of people, capitalism shows up to package and sell it.

then again this is meaningless coming from the same people who believe Whites have no "culture" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_music) and Third Worlders are more enlightened or something. after reading about Indians voluntarily crushing themselves to death under the Juggernaut so they can meet the six-armed elephant god, I'm doubtful.

[Judean Zealot]

I imagine the problem is that it's irrelevant if a group binds together insofar as their difference and it's sacralisation isn't recognised and thus it ceases to exist outside of that group. In the same sense someone's fundamental right to life - and their identity as a bearer - is a redundant concept if it's not recognised.

One better example might be the identities of transpeople in communities where this identity isn't recognised. Does it actually matter what these people believe?

The case you've given is that of an absolute uprooting of a perceived identity, something which I understand can be very problematic for said group. I'm not talking about a fundamental rejection of identity X.

I'm talking about where a particular incident, a subset within the greater whole of the details of an identity are adopted by others. I don't think that poses any serious threat to the integrity, continuity, or recognition of said identity. Thus if drag became a style, I wouldn't say that that undermines the perception of LGBT people as a separate identity.

The latter is worse than the former - but that doesn't make both problematic depending on the circumstances. When a group excludes someone from participation in a tradition or custom it becomes a definitional aspect of that tradition or custom that this someone is an illegitimate participant. Participation then is subverting the identity of that tradition or custom and my extension the identity of that group is it not?

No. So far as the appropriators are bearing in mind that this is a tradition for a certain group and don't literally adopt it as their own - think college campuses lighting menorahs, they're clearly just doing it as a sort of tribute to the people who do, and not as an actual integral part of the identity of the appropriator. Customs are an incidental aspect of identity, and the transcendent sense of identity remains even after dilution of it's particulars.

[Vlerchan]

Judean Zealot: Oh well, I tried. I can cheerfully concede all that.

[Judean Zealot]

Judean Zealot: Oh well, I tried. I can cheerfully concede all that.

'Twas a valiant attempt. :D

[JavierDolan]

Meanwhile in Africa a starving child just died because they couldn't any food whatsoever.

[Porpoise101]

I feel like it's not ok to just use cultural objects of a sacred or religious significance. Even then it's just in bad taste. That being said, the so called threat from cultural appropriation seems stupid considering we live in a connected world.

[Dalton_Holt]

This is when social "liberalism" turns into straight up racism. This is worse than social conservatism.

[Gwen]

I can't imagine elderly people who actually lived with segregation and full blown racism when they read shit like this. Just a lot of disappointment I'd assume.

[Miserabilia]

Third wave feminism, modern "black / ethnic rights / voices " groups in the USA, what a joke. Microaggressions, what a joke.

[Stronk Serb]

I bet Martin Luther King is spinning in his grave so fast that you can put a turbine and he will provide more electricity than the Hoover Dam.

[phuckphace]

the United Kekdom never fails to delight

http://i.imgur.com/NTvp9qB.png

translator's note: "festivities" means Christmas

everything about this photo is perfect: having a budget is spousal abuse because it's 2016, ugh men, and this Vera Baird (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Baird) provides us with a reminder of why women weren't allowed to vote for the longest time

one possible upside: all economists are rounded up and imprisoned on wife-beating charges. picture that ginger harpy shrieking about the hidden sexist undertones of the supply/demand curve

[RiHouse]

I agree, this is getting absolutely out of control, and it's not just this, either: let me tell you why; There's something super Orwellian about terms like "trigger warning" and "micro-aggression", and this is only heightened by the fact that a lot of mainstream colleges in the U.S have designated "safe zones" for their students. This is absolutely absurd because you don't go to college to feel good about yourself, you go to college to learn! I don't give a flying fuck if talking about Nazi's offends you, and if it does offend you, why the hell are you in a history class, a class in which talking about death and destruction is undeniably inevitable. Political correctness is off the rails at this point, and it must be stopped.

Rant over.

[phuckphace]

I agree, this is getting absolutely out of control, and it's not just this, either: let me tell you why; There's something super Orwellian about terms like "trigger warning" and "micro-aggression", and this is only heightened by the fact that a lot of mainstream colleges in the U.S have designated "safe zones" for their students. This is absolutely absurd because you don't go to college to feel good about yourself, you go to college to learn! I don't give a flying fuck if talking about Nazi's offends you, and if it does offend you, why the hell are you in a history class, a class in which talking about death and destruction is undeniably inevitable. Political correctness is off the rails at this point, and it must be stopped.

Rant over.

I like this new poster's style. expecting gr8 things.

[Jinglebottom]

I agree, this is getting absolutely out of control, and it's not just this, either: let me tell you why; There's something super Orwellian about terms like "trigger warning" and "micro-aggression", and this is only heightened by the fact that a lot of mainstream colleges in the U.S have designated "safe zones" for their students. This is absolutely absurd because you don't go to college to feel good about yourself, you go to college to learn! I don't give a flying fuck if talking about Nazi's offends you, and if it does offend you, why the hell are you in a history class, a class in which talking about death and destruction is undeniably inevitable. Political correctness is off the rails at this point, and it must be stopped.

Rant over.
Stop it you're triggering me. Time to post my cuts all over Tumblr now and throw shade at white straight guys.

[Judean Zealot]

the United Kekdom never fails to delight

image (http://i.imgur.com/NTvp9qB.png)

translator's note: "festivities" means Christmas

everything about this photo is perfect: having a budget is spousal abuse because it's 2016, ugh men, and this Vera Baird (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Baird) provides us with a reminder of why women weren't allowed to vote for the longest time

one possible upside: all economists are rounded up and imprisoned on wife-beating charges. picture that ginger harpy shrieking about the hidden sexist undertones of the supply/demand curve

I do hope they give Vlerchan Internet access in jail.

[phuckphace]

I know Orwell gets invoked a lot (like Hitler) but there is something disconcertingly Newspeakish about terms like "microagression" and "cishet" and "intersectional". they ought to just drop the pretense and say "crimethink" instead of "homophobia". and if you really think about it, homophobia is *literally* crimethink in some places already. also much like Hitler it appears Orwell was right, QED.

[Vlerchan]

Economic abuse is a legitimate concern. it's also not just budgeting. It's when a spouse arranges their households economic affairs in a manner that enables them to control the other - who's become dependent.

It tends to underline a lot of the other forms of abuse.

[phuckphace]

Economic abuse is a legitimate concern. it's also not just budgeting. It's when a spouse arranges their households economic affairs in a manner that enables them to control the other - who's become dependent.

It tends to underline a lot of the other forms of abuse.

not sure if this is advocatus diaboli or not but it's plainly worded "HE likes to budget carefully..." which to normal people, women included, is an innocuous phrase denoting a sensible habit. if it were something along the lines of "he's gutted and hooks you in the gabber for spending too much at the supermarket" it would be slightly less laughable - but it's obvious the wording was intentionally vague for the benefit of tyrannical feminists who simply cannot leave anything unfucked-with.

it's made even more absurd by the UK's sizable Muslim population, who as we all know totally don't have a pronounced cultural wife-beating/genital-mutilation problem or anything

[Vlerchan]

...advocatus diaboli...
I'd never.

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Though being serious it's not.

not sure if this is advocatus diaboli or not but it's plainly worded "HE likes to budget carefully..." which to normal people, women included, is an innocuous phrase denoting a sensible habit.
That the sentence is preceded with "so he gets to control what his partner can do" should signal the malicois nature of the act. The use of the phrase 'budget carefully' is intended to be indicative of the faux-innonence of the act and the manner in which it might be passed off as normal I imagine.

It makes sense in the context though that won't be as clear to those not clued into the debate.

f it were something along the lines of "he's gutted and hooks you in the gabber for spending too much at the supermarket" it would be slightly less laughable - but it's obvious the wording was intentionally vague for the benefit of tyrannical feminists who simply cannot leave anything unfucked-with.
I'll be concerned if it's phrased as it is in the legislation. This is an advertisement though - and one I imagine is intended for those involved in the debate.

I don't think it's their best idea considering the peripheral space this issue occupies.

it's made even more absurd by the UK's sizable Muslim population, who as we all know totally don't have a pronounced cultural wife-beating/genital-mutilation problem or anything
I agree an intersectional approach to domestic abuse is required too. Sounds doubleplusgood to me.

[Porpoise101]

not sure if this is advocatus diaboli or not but it's plainly worded "HE likes to budget carefully..." which to normal people, women included, is an innocuous phrase denoting a sensible habit. if it were something along the lines of "he's gutted and hooks you in the gabber for spending too much at the supermarket" it would be slightly less laughable - but it's obvious the wording was intentionally vague for the benefit of tyrannical feminists who simply cannot leave anything unfucked-with.

it's made even more absurd by the UK's sizable Muslim population, who as we all know totally don't have a pronounced cultural wife-beating/genital-mutilation problem or anything
I mean when has a police department even come up with a decent poster? In my community they are super cheesy line this one.

[Professional Russian]

Probably off topic but fuck it. Fuck this political correctness bullshit. Literally today I got suspended from my job by my school because something I said was not politically correct. Now I do have a reputation for not giving a fuck and saying it how it is whether it's politically correct or not but really? You're gonna take away my job because you were offended by something I said? This whole political correctness thing is a joke and I'm going as politically incorrect as I can just to piss people off

[phuckphace]

Literally today I got suspended from my job by my school because something I said was not politically correct.

wow just wow. sounds like you should take the initiative and open an intersectional dialogue with them to raise awareness of alternative viewpoints

[hairy palmer]

Try not to rip your hair out when you read this (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/20/oberlin-students-cafeteria-food-is-racist.html).

Mods: my intent is to start a broad discussion, so ROTW instead of the chronicle.

Anyone care to defend the idea that cultural appropriation ought to be banned as 'micro-aggression'?

yo political correctness is mental. u cant say jack shit 2 n e 1 without nearly bein sued! was in a shop with me gramps n he says "thanx sweetheart" to the chick behind the counter n i swear she gave him the filthiest look. relax peeps

[Professional Russian]

wow just wow. sounds like you should take the initiative and open an intersectional dialogue with them to raise awareness of alternative viewpoints

I did. It ended up with a massive argument about racism and I eventually got threatened with the termination of my job

[Uniquemind]

I did. It ended up with a massive argument about racism and I eventually got threatened with the termination of my job

I kinda want to hear the whole story in transcript form on what happened to you and what lead up to it.

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Political correctness suffers from the same dogmatic flaws as stereotypes do which laid the foundation to try to get everyone to tolerate everyone else's differences despite their true feelings in the first place.

I would say thought that if you like being blunt almost to a cruel degree, the profession of a lawyer in certain contexts really does allow you to turn off political correctness if you need to to discredit a witness.

So the doctrine of political correctness hasn't permeated everywhere yet, but it needs to be countered with the doctrine of what you have a right to be upset about.

Part of the reason I think people can't handle anything that isn't "politically correct" has to do with a bastardization of raising a whole generation to feel that "they're special", "immediate YOLO gratification" is good.

Very few teach patience and observation and any real deep level thinking wisdom anymore.

It's like allergies, we've become too sheltered, and now we're hypersensitive to everything because they is no immunity to the reality of the world.

You get emotionally set off too easily, rather than looking deeper into the merit of a statement or a person, and you've become a dogmatic social-justice-warrior obsessed with the details and not the core truth.

[Jinglebottom]

Probably off topic but fuck it. Fuck this political correctness bullshit. Literally today I got suspended from my job by my school because something I said was not politically correct. Now I do have a reputation for not giving a fuck and saying it how it is whether it's politically correct or not but really? You're gonna take away my job because you were offended by something I said? This whole political correctness thing is a joke and I'm going as politically incorrect as I can just to piss people off
Lelz, I was torn to shreds by the teacher in 7th grade because I used the word fat, instead of the more appropriate word (according to them) "chubby". Not even kidding.

[Professional Russian]

I kinda want to hear the whole story in transcript form on what happened to you and what lead up to it.

We were on the unemployment website and we were looking through it and half of it was in different languages so I said "I'm sorry but if you can't speak our language then I don't think you deserve our governments benefits." I don't see anything racist with that. I don't think the country should adapt to people I think the people that willingly want to come here need to adapt to our culture and our language. It's like that in most countries.

[Microcosm]

It seems to me like the degree of offense people take to trivial comments or sly remarks is offspring of our system of free speech combined with the internet. Once the internet took hold and became popular, people could say whatever they wanted anonymously to a massive number of highly impressionable individuals(mostly teens I'd imagine) which then led to the current generation of brainwashed SJWs and people who are self-loathing and desperate to blame their problems, insecurities, and flaws on everyone else.

[phuckphace]

Lelz, I was torn to shreds by the teacher in 7th grade because I used the word fat, instead of the more appropriate word (according to them) "chubby". Not even kidding.

I prefer the term "gravitationally significant"

[Sailor Mars]

that news link doesn't even represent political correctness, more like butt hurt teenagers who are taking culture too far lmao

[PinkFloyd]

You PC bro?

[Uniquemind]

We were on the unemployment website and we were looking through it and half of it was in different languages so I said "I'm sorry but if you can't speak our language then I don't think you deserve our governments benefits." I don't see anything racist with that. I don't think the country should adapt to people I think the people that willingly want to come here need to adapt to our culture and our language. It's like that in most countries.

Because it's not racist, it a cuturalist-political argument overlapping a economic policy discussion for a nation.

It isn't based on pre-determination of superiority versus inferiority in regards to an individuals birthright, in fact what you said implies knowledge can be learned by anybody to get equal footing. So therefore lies the distinction between racism and sensitive cultural arguments that are pointed but not inherently racist.

You are however being slightly unfair not acknowledging different aged brains have more difficulty in acquiring new languages fluently though, than say an infant or young child, and you are asking them to learn under economic pressures of bills, earning bread for family, etc.


It seems to me like the degree of offense people take to trivial comments or sly remarks is offspring of our system of free speech combined with the internet. Once the internet took hold and became popular, people could say whatever they wanted anonymously to a massive number of highly impressionable individuals(mostly teens I'd imagine) which then led to the current generation of brainwashed SJWs and people who are self-loathing and desperate to blame their problems, insecurities, and flaws on everyone else.

That's not it. I'll argue that it originates from an entire generation of people raised with the ideal that one's subjective personal vague feelings are all that's needed to call what offended them "racist" or some other label with negative connotation.

It's accusation, without logical discernment of context and meaning.


If you can justify a hateful or mean comment with facts, it becomes a hard objective truth, and I've always operated that I have no right to feel offended if those comments can be substantiated. Nobody teaches this though.


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I'll give the PC movement this, and this alone. It's power comes from a recognition that humans make hasty generalizations and lazily spout them as fact without verbal and clear specificity to back up the claim to make it a hard truthful statement.

All stereotypes come from a noticeable and justifiable pattern and truth, that's why certain jokes and phrases keep orbiting society and not vanishing as untrue.

What PC has done wrong is that it over corrects anybody who even attempts to drop any such statements or even conversations which can hold the potential to be interpreted as a violation of the 14th Amendment equal protections or any harassment legal precedent which then implies a loss of money lawsuit.

So it's severely affected workplaces, any place which takes public money, any business whose image relies on fair business practices for all.

It's a good debate to have and I'm glad someone started it.

I'm raising it specifically to a new level.

What about the PC movement was specifically good, and at which point did it overstep and become a negative? Be specific.

I think I've argued my view on where it oversteps and that is court precedent and the money issue because of court precedent's vagueness sometimes especially when court cases are based on a plaintiff's subjective feelings.

[Professional Russian]

Because it's not racist, it a cuturalist-political argument overlapping a economic policy discussion for a nation.

It isn't based on pre-determination of superiority versus inferiority in regards to an individuals birthright, in fact what you said implies knowledge can be learned by anybody to get equal footing. So therefore lies the distinction between racism and sensitive cultural arguments that are pointed but not inherently racist.

You are however being slightly unfair not acknowledging different aged brains have more difficulty in acquiring new languages fluently though, than say an infant or young child, and you are asking them to learn under economic pressures of bills, earning bread for family, etc.


They might have a hard time learning a new language. But the point was it wasn't racist. They suspended me 3 days of work because of that statement. I loose almost a full weeks pay because they called it racist and made a big deal out of it. It was politically incorrect I'll agree to that but it was not racist.

[ImCoolBeans]

I got about three quarters of the way through before I had to stop reading :P
I think everyone should generally be kind to each other, but political correctness has seriously taken on a new meaning in the last few years. That article is a perfect example of how. The part about the yoga class was particularly ridiculous IMO.

[Allbutanillusion]

The short answer is ABSOLUTELY. Give the people who play the Race Card for social gain or financial benefit( no matter how insane or frivolous it is)
an inch and they will take a mile as we have seen and more. Usually on the backs and or expense of white people. Because you see despite that society like to talk about intolerance of bigotry..there is an exception ,ThePC "feel good" dogma, propaganda that is preached..that is when it is targeted/directed at white people..then for some strange reason bigotry is deemed acceptable/tolerated and people take advantage of that. Case inpoint ...really.....food is racist???? LOL

[lliam]

Nowadays we are too effeminate. We can't even bear to be insulted slightly, without suffering from depression.

[Uniquemind]

The issue that has to be hashed out is a set of rules in society that clearly define the differences between a right to a preference or opinion or inaction and enforcement of a policy, VS actual bigoted behavior steeped in prejudice and non-logical thought.

[DoodleSnap]

Cultural appropriation is the most ridiculous concept ever conceived. It ties certain behaviors and ideas to certain races, which is arguably the fundamental basis of eugenics, etc...

If everyone from a certain race were banned from using the others' inventions, then anyone non-Persian wouldn't be wearing trousers, and Han Chinese wouldn't be allowed to eat sandwiches. Not to mention the fact that race and origin is such a muddy history anyway...

[Stronk Serb]

Cultural appropriation is the most ridiculous concept ever conceived. It ties certain behaviors and ideas to certain races, which is arguably the fundamental basis of eugenics, etc...

If everyone from a certain race were banned from using the others' inventions, then anyone non-Persian wouldn't be wearing trousers, and Han Chinese wouldn't be allowed to eat sandwiches. Not to mention the fact that race and origin is such a muddy history anyway...

To further expand on that logic, no one except Serbs would use DC electricity, non-Latins couldn't use Latin and non-Arabs couldn't use Arab numerals... I love it when liberals get stuck in their shit and can't get out, no matter how hard they shovel.

[Porpoise101]

I love it when liberals get stuck in their shit and can't get out, no matter how hard they shovel.
I wouldn't even call it liberal because that implies social freedom. These guys are hardcore lefties that bought into a popular belief just to look 'not racist'. While perhaps there should be more emphasis on the origins and achievements of various cultures, it should not be restrictive of behaviors and ideas.

[tovaris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahD2XMLLAx8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahD2XMLLAx8

[AgentHomo]

I honestly think we need to be even more PC. How can we let the Priviledged get away with being discriminant against the minorities? This is 2016 and we still have people supporting a Priviledged racist and xenophobic prick for President! That's where Political Correctness comes in. Teach those republican morons that they are wrong!

[DriveAlive]

I honestly think we need to be even more PC. How can we let the Priviledged get away with being discriminant against the minorities? This is 2016 and we still have people supporting a Priviledged racist and xenophobic prick for President! That's where Political Correctness comes in. Teach those republican morons that they are wrong!

Wait, explain to me why it is okay to censor someone because you disagree with them again...

[West Coast Sheriff]

I honestly think we need to be even more PC. How can we let the Priviledged get away with being discriminant against the minorities? This is 2016 and we still have people supporting a Priviledged racist and xenophobic prick for President! That's where Political Correctness comes in. Teach those republican morons that they are wrong!

Political correctness is plaguing this nation. People are offended by everything little thing that they disagree with. Part of growing up is maturing and facing different worldviews.

I find these accusations of sexism and racism very annoying. Condemning everyone for have white privledge is a little discriminatory itself? It's like the Salem witch trials how bad the accusations have gotten.

Some else's views offend you so it's okay to limit their freedom of speech? Why can't conservatives have a voice. People can't be so whiny and scared to get out of their bubble. We aren't kids anymore and can't be bothered by sudden remarks. As adults, we must listen to every voice. (The Donald shouldn't be saying what he's saying, it's also childish). There's a way to respectfully attack things. Crying college students demanding safe zones and its counterpart, haters ostrisizing others, are both horribly wrong.

I don't support hate speech but I sure as hell cant fight it. I will respect the agressors voice as he/she is entitle to an opinion and I will refute it as best I can. Demanding them to shut up shows a great amount of weakness in me.

[Judean Zealot]

I honestly think we need to be even more PC. How can we let the Priviledged get away with being discriminant against the minorities? This is 2016 and we still have people supporting a Priviledged racist and xenophobic prick for President! That's where Political Correctness comes in. Teach those republican morons that they are wrong!

It's rather difficult to read your post as anything but a tirade against political correctness.

[West Coast Sheriff]

It's rather difficult to read your post as anything but a tirade against political correctness.

Exactly.

[Stronk Serb]

I honestly think we need to be even more PC. How can we let the Priviledged get away with being discriminant against the minorities? This is 2016 and we still have people supporting a Priviledged racist and xenophobic prick for President! That's where Political Correctness comes in. Teach those republican morons that they are wrong!

Wow. Describe these privilieged and please say how are they discriminating.

[AgentHomo]

Wow. Describe these privilieged and please say how are they discriminating.

White
Cis
Not gay
Males

They are discriminating because they come from a system that benefits them as superior. White people are inherently racist; Cis people are inherently transphobic; Not gay people are inherently homophobic; males are inherently sexist pigs; this is all because the system benefits them and instills the superiority complex into them when they're young. Political correctness is destroying this system which still exists. Only then will the country be politically correct.

[Sailor Mars]

White
Cis
Not gay
Males

They are discriminating because they come from a system that benefits them as superior. White people are inherently racist; Cis people are inherently transphobic; Not gay people are inherently homophobic; males are inherently sexist pigs; this is all because the system benefits them and instills the superiority complex into them when they're young. Political correctness is destroying this system which still exists. Only then will the country be politically correct.

Inherit: http://i.imgur.com/fr8fs8A.jpg

Discrimination: http://i.imgur.com/oI4WGDH.jpg

Cmon guys this privileged white cis scum meme isn't funny anymore ):

[lyhom]

White
Cis
Not gay
Males

They are discriminating because they come from a system that benefits them as superior. White people are inherently racist; Cis people are inherently transphobic; Not gay people are inherently homophobic; males are inherently sexist pigs; this is all because the system benefits them and instills the superiority complex into them when they're young. Political correctness is destroying this system which still exists. Only then will the country be politically correct.

I love how you just conveniently ignore class privilege as if it doesn't exist lmao

[StoppingTom]

I love how you just conveniently ignore class privilege as if it doesn't exist lmao

if you aren't dirt poor you are inherently rich and part of the 1%

[Jinglebottom]

Cmon guys this privileged white cis scum meme isn't funny anymore ):
To be honest, it's just people going out of their way to make themselves look like the victim, for whatever fucked up reason. Oh, what a horrible and traumatizing ordeal they have to go through! Things like "being looked at funny" or "being greeted by a privilege-sucking vampire".

[Judean Zealot]

Cmon guys this privileged white cis scum meme isn't funny anymore ):

If it accomplishes anything, it perpetuates the current right wing stranglehold on ROTW. I'm unsure whether that's a good or bad thing though.

[Vlerchan]

If it accomplishes anything, it perpetuates the current right wing stranglehold on ROTW. I'm unsure whether that's a good or bad thing though.
I can't say I'm looking forward to the weeks of damage control.

I more-or-less concur here though. This approach that the left seems to have taken is entirely counter-productive:

Your allies don't want to be told they're racist and so to just go along with what you're proposing or otherwise you'll call them more mean names.

[Judean Zealot]

I can't say I'm looking forward to the weeks of damage control.

I more-or-less concur here though. This approach that the left seems to have taken is entirely counter-productive:

Your allies don't want to be told they're racist and so to just go along with what you're proposing or otherwise you'll call them more mean names.

I don't envy your task. :P

In any event, this is why I'm under the impression that these people don't actually want to fix this perceived inequity, they just want to feel good about themselves through [-]endless bitching[/-] activism.

[Vlerchan]

Sticking to the theme: I wasn't sure where to post this but I just had it linked to me and thought a number of posters here would appreciate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j556MWGVVqI&feature=youtu.be

There was something hilarious about how consistently unimpressed the people he was talking to looked.

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I tried over and over to embed but it just wasn't working/:

[phuckphace]

Vlerchan, got you covered brah

j556MWGVVqI

lmao

[Professional Russian]

White
Cis
Not gay
Males

They are discriminating because they come from a system that benefits them as superior. White people are inherently racist; Cis people are inherently transphobic; Not gay people are inherently homophobic; males are inherently sexist pigs; this is all because the system benefits them and instills the superiority complex into them when they're young. Political correctness is destroying this system which still exists. Only then will the country be politically correct.

Oh I call bullshit on most of if not all of that. I'm not gay and I'm not homophobic. I'm white that doesn't mean I'm privileged or racist. And I don't think the system "benefits" us. To me it looks like everyone gets the same fucking no matter how you look at it. Oh I'm sorry did I just offend you with the word fuck?

[Judean Zealot]

Sticking to the theme: I wasn't sure where to post this but I just had it linked to me and thought a number of posters here would appreciate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j556MWGVVqI&feature=youtu.be

There was something hilarious about how consistently unimpressed the people he was talking to looked.

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I tried over and over to embed but it just wasn't working/:

My favourite line: I look like a dog but I identify as a shin guard. Idk, I laughed.

[Stronk Serb]

White
Cis
Not gay
Males

They are discriminating because they come from a system that benefits them as superior. White people are inherently racist; Cis people are inherently transphobic; Not gay people are inherently homophobic; males are inherently sexist pigs; this is all because the system benefits them and instills the superiority complex into them when they're young. Political correctness is destroying this system which still exists. Only then will the country be politically correct.

It's because of statements like these that I hate the gay/trans lobby, you just assume all straight white males hate your guts and want to butcher you. Maybe if you stopped hating everyone and blaming the white folks for all your personal failures (just like Hitler blamed the Jews for all Germany's failures) and actually worked on achieving your goals, you might as well achieve them.

#StraightOuttaTumblr

[Jinglebottom]

It's because of statements like these that I hate the gay/trans lobby, you just assume all straight white males hate your guts and want to butcher you. Maybe if you stopped hating everyone and blaming the white folks for all your personal failures (just like Hitler blamed the Jews for all Germany's failures) and actually worked on achieving your goals, you might as well achieve them.

#StraightOuttaTumblr
I'm part of the LGB and I legit cannot stand the actual LGBT movement itself. It's downright obnoxious, and I feel like it's giving the rest of us a bad name because of the loud minority that still has that stupid mindset.

[Stronk Serb]

I'm part of the LGB and I legit cannot stand the actual LGBT movement itself. It's downright obnoxious, and I feel like it's giving the rest of us a bad name because of the loud minority that still has that stupid mindset.

Yeah, don't hate the LGBT, hate the lobbies and their lapdogs. I hope I don't get a brain tumor from this thread. I've never seen so much hate pointed at a really large group. I still laugh about a system that taught me how I "am superior to females". Whenever I was a boy and got aspirations of superiority, my mother's hand would smack me from the heights, demonstrating the superiority of parents. Dad would replace her