An Honest Question for Girls

[TheDoctor24]

I want your opinions on this. Why are you okay with a bikini in public, but not your bra and panties? This just blows my mind... lol:confused:

[Elysium]

I've wondered about this too. I think it's just a stupid societal/arbitrary stigma. Bikinis are designed to be worn in public and underwear isn't and so one thing is taboo while the other isn't. I'm not sure how practical the differentiation is.

I've also read somewhere before that it has to do with consent, which I guess is a somewhat connected idea. When you wear a bikini out in public, you're doing it consciously and consenting to people seeing you. When people see you in your underwear, it's more personal and intimate, even if it's not romantic or sexual in nature - which is, I guess, just from the way we treat it. I'm not sure how much I could explain or defend this notion of it having to do with consent though so please don't ask me to.

[TheDoctor24]

Well thats a great idea at the least!

[Vanilla Cupcake]

Because when your in your bikini, so is everyone else and your going swimming, but when your in the other things, they are meant to be hidden.

Wait a minute. What do you mean exactly, not ok with bra and panties? Do u mean like just going out wearing bra and panties?

-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

[TheDoctor24]

Wait a minute. What do you mean exactly, not ok with bra and panties? Do u mean like just going out wearing bra and panties?

Yep. Exactly.

[Uniquemind]

I've wondered about this too. I think it's just a stupid societal/arbitrary stigma. Bikinis are designed to be worn in public and underwear isn't and so one thing is taboo while the other isn't. I'm not sure how practical the differentiation is.

I've also read somewhere before that it has to do with consent, which I guess is a somewhat connected idea. When you wear a bikini out in public, you're doing it consciously and consenting to people seeing you. When people see you in your underwear, it's more personal and intimate, even if it's not romantic or sexual in nature - which is, I guess, just from the way we treat it. I'm not sure how much I could explain or defend this notion of it having to do with consent though so please don't ask me to.

To sum this post in one word. Context.


It's all about context, and deeper meaning, because that's what we girls are looking at all the time, the deeper meaning of situations, communication, and well intention.


Although this is changing given the era of camera'd drones, and photos everywhere taken without consent and then made into a meme online, with outdated law or an overburden of proof to prosecute in court.

I'll admit I haven't gone to the beach in YEARS because of this issue revealing that much skin. I stick mostly to the shops, and boardwalk in a hoodie.

[TheDoctor24]

To sum this post in one word. Context.


It's all about context, and deeper meaning, because that's what we girls are looking at all the time, the deeper meaning of situations, communication, and well intention.


Although this is changing given the era of camera'd drones, and photos everywhere taken without consent and then made into a meme online, with outdated law or an overburden of proof to prosecute in court.

I'll admit I haven't gone to the beach in YEARS because of this issue revealing that much skin. I stick mostly to the shops, and boardwalk in a hoodie.

This is a very interesting answer... Gives me something tp think about.

[LanaPole]

well bras and panties are not designed to be wore in public. it's supposed to be covered up. if you want to show your body, wear a bikini. it looks nicer

[Uniquemind]

well bras and panties are not designed to be wore in public. it's supposed to be covered up. if you want to show your body, wear a bikini. it looks nicer

To be fair though there exists a significant chunk of nudists who have a fair argument with logic of their own to rail against the existence of clothes at all.


It's very interesting to hear different points of view.

For me though in modern-day with like all the solar UV rays, I tend to want to coverup due to potential sunburn and cellular DNA damage.

Idk about anybody else but I really hate sunscreen, it also has drawbacks because of vitamin D production.

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Back to my context answer above though.

Specifically beaches have water, and water and bras and panties make them translucent especially if they're white, they also get heavier when wet, cotton does that.

Other public places do not have this issue, so therefore context is the answer yet again only this time I've provided more details.

[yeehaw]

I suppose it depends on the situation. Like in a swimming pool, spa, or beach, bikinis are accepted because they're going in the water and stuff like that. Like the above poster, cotton bras and panties get heavy and that's not practical at all. Whereas in a gym changing room, bras and panties would be more appropriate because bras and panties are made to be covered up and are for comfort use only.

I wear a lot when I'm out of the house anyway, especially in summer because of sunburn (I prefer to be very pale - I pretty much wear sunscreen if I go out at all, any time of year).

Teamed with the fact that I'm in rainy Britain and that the nearest beach is 80 miles away and is very very cold all year round, not many people would choose to wear bikinis there anyway.

I remember when I was in holiday in the summer in Italy we went to the beach, most if not all of the women wore bikini tops and some form of shorts near the beach area, but there were signs when you got into the town that you had to wear shirts and shoes to get into pretty much every store.

Tldr; Bras and panties are for comfort and bikinis are for practical use.

[AutumnWinds]

i've always wondered this, too. it feels like another stupid social stigma.

[Uniquemind]

i've always wondered this, too. it feels like another stupid social stigma.

It's not though, there's reasons like those explanations above from myself and xdanosaurx

I only shirk trends if it's purely non-logical or overtly pushy where consequences adversely affect others who didn't make a choice.

If fashion is only a design thing sure, but this had practical reasons for the trend.

[AutumnWinds]

It's not though, there's reasons like those explanations above from myself and xdanosaurx

I only shirk trends if it's purely non-logical or overtly pushy where consequences adversely affect others who didn't make a choice.

If fashion is only a design thing sure, but this had practical reasons for the trend.

you both make points on the practicality of bikinis vs bra and panties, but fashion is not practical. there are literally millions of fashion trends that are highly non-practical, but also are not frowned upon. furthermore, some people wear bikinis just to tan at the beach, and not to swim, but those same people would face social stigmas if they tanned in their bra and panties. and even from a practical point of view, a guy can take his shirt off if he is hot and continue working or exercising or what have you in the heat shirtless, but if a girl did that and continued in her bra, it would be frowned upon, in spite of it covering the same as her bikini top, possibly even more. you know what i mean?

[Uniquemind]

you both make points on the practicality of bikinis vs bra and panties, but fashion is not practical. there are literally millions of fashion trends that are highly non-practical, but also are not frowned upon. furthermore, some people wear bikinis just to tan at the beach, and not to swim, but those same people would face social stigmas if they tanned in their bra and panties. and even from a practical point of view, a guy can take his shirt off if he is hot and continue working or exercising or what have you in the heat shirtless, but if a girl did that and continued in her bra, it would be frowned upon, in spite of it covering the same as her bikini top, possibly even more. you know what i mean?

I've seen guys turn away from public places like stores and restaurants for not having a shirt on.

But yeah worldwide I think topless for women should actually be more acceptable and less double standard. But a lot of us feel psychologically exposed to be waving those girls out in public anyway so it's not a huge issue where there's backlash for not being able to be topless.


In regards to fashion being non-practical, that's true, a lot of it is just for emotionally irrational fun, posturing, bragging, status symbols, self-esteem.


Again like I said, it's context broken down to each individual garment, the purpose of the garment, how the garment is supposed to be used and what it stands for.


So add that to what I said in my original posts and you'll see what I said has a much more flexible point of view.

[AutumnWinds]

just want to point out, especially before i get some creepy pm's, i would be mortified going around topless, but i think that people who want to should be able to.

I've seen guys turn away from public places like stores and restaurants for not having a shirt on.

But yeah worldwide I think topless for women should actually be more acceptable and less double standard. But a lot of us feel psychologically exposed to be waving those girls out in public anyway so it's not a huge issue where there's backlash for not being able to be topless.


In regards to fashion being non-practical, that's true, a lot of it is just for emotionally irrational fun, posturing, bragging, status symbols, self-esteem.


Again like I said, it's context broken down to each individual garment, the purpose of the garment, how the garment is supposed to be used and what it stands for.


So add that to what I said in my original posts and you'll see what I said has a much more flexible point of view.

[Vanilla Cupcake]

To be fair though there exists a significant chunk of nudists who have a fair argument with logic of their own to rail against the existence of clothes at all.


It's very interesting to hear different points of view.

For me though in modern-day with like all the solar UV rays, I tend to want to coverup due to potential sunburn and cellular DNA damage.

Idk about anybody else but I really hate sunscreen, it also has drawbacks because of vitamin D production.

--

Back to my context answer above though.

Specifically beaches have water, and water and bras and panties make them translucent especially if they're white, they also get heavier when wet, cotton does that.

Other public places do not have this issue, so therefore context is the answer yet again only this time I've provided more details.

I agree with covering up when in the sun. I had melanoma a couple years ago, I have no idea how I got it, but I'm never allowed in the sun again unless I'm fully covered and limited to 10 mins of direct sunlight. I'm as white as white gets.

As for the bras and panties, If it were the norm, I'm sure girls would do it.

[playfull-qt]

I've wondered about this too. I think it's just a stupid societal/arbitrary stigma. Bikinis are designed to be worn in public and underwear isn't and so one thing is taboo while the other isn't. I'm not sure how practical the differentiation is.

I've also read somewhere before that it has to do with consent, which I guess is a somewhat connected idea. When you wear a bikini out in public, you're doing it consciously and consenting to people seeing you. When people see you in your underwear, it's more personal and intimate, even if it's not romantic or sexual in nature - which is, I guess, just from the way we treat it. I'm not sure how much I could explain or defend this notion of it having to do with consent though so please don't ask me to.


couldn't agree more

[sweettayla]

Society standards and what we're conditioned to l guess, l'm fine in bikinis but l know l'd be embarrassed if l were in bras and panties in the same situation even though they may cover more than a bikini.

[Karkat]

I personally think it's stupid af

Also, I feel self-conscious as HELL in bikinis so I mean

[Maria16 Here]

I've wondered about this too. I think it's just a stupid societal/arbitrary stigma. Bikinis are designed to be worn in public and underwear isn't and so one thing is taboo while the other isn't. I'm not sure how practical the differentiation is.

I've also read somewhere before that it has to do with consent, which I guess is a somewhat connected idea. When you wear a bikini out in public, you're doing it consciously and consenting to people seeing you. When people see you in your underwear, it's more personal and intimate, even if it's not romantic or sexual in nature - which is, I guess, just from the way we treat it. I'm not sure how much I could explain or defend this notion of it having to do with consent though so please don't ask me to.

I would agree with this. We are a nudist family and while there are places I feel comfortable going nude, I certainly would not do it everywhere, and the same for bikini vs underwear. My mom tells me that years ago you would never see a bra on a person on tv but now you see them on ads and more all the time.

[Exotic Babe]

I've wondered about this too. I think it's just a stupid societal/arbitrary stigma. Bikinis are designed to be worn in public and underwear isn't and so one thing is taboo while the other isn't. I'm not sure how practical the differentiation is.

I've also read somewhere before that it has to do with consent, which I guess is a somewhat connected idea. When you wear a bikini out in public, you're doing it consciously and consenting to people seeing you. When people see you in your underwear, it's more personal and intimate, even if it's not romantic or sexual in nature - which is, I guess, just from the way we treat it. I'm not sure how much I could explain or defend this notion of it having to do with consent though so please don't ask me to.

Just deleted my whole comment, because you have described it so much better and I couldn't agree more.

[jennyem]

It's an interesting question but it's like asking boys who wear speedos or short trunks in pools if they'd be ok just walking around in their underwear or boxers.

It just depends on the occasion. Obviously when I'm going to the beach or pool Im going to wear clothes that are good for swimming in and being in the water. So that means you can't really wear too much on. I think people are just generally accustomed to thinking that in beaches and pools, people wear much more skintight clothing

[Exotic Babe]

Agree with the previous commenters. If someone other than my really close friends/family walked in to me in just my underwear, it would probably be just my natural reaction to cover myself with something and tell them to get (the fuck) out. Tho I'm not one of those overly dramatic bitches to go like "OHMYGOSH I'M NAKED GET OUT YOU PERV". Yeah.

[Tesserax]

well bras and panties are not designed to be wore in public. it's supposed to be covered up. if you want to show your body, wear a bikini. it looks nicer

Maybe not, but it's a case of "My entire body is exposed except my bra and panties! No!" vs "My entire body is exposed except my bikini! Yes!". Why is there such a difference in something that is exactly the same besides intention? Lingerie makes sense, it can be much more revealing, but I remember being on camp once and we were all changing in/out of wet suits, and when I turned my head to the girls direction one of them told me to stop peeping. I turned around, but I was confused because I couldn't tell if they were wearing bras/panties or just wearing bikinis, and I was wondering what the problem was if they were wearing it in the first place.

[sabbi]

Panties and bras can be pretty thin material showing off every bump and crack (no pun intended) compared to a bikini material.

[AutumnWinds]

Maybe not, but it's a case of "My entire body is exposed except my bra and panties! No!" vs "My entire body is exposed except my bikini! Yes!". Why is there such a difference in something that is exactly the same besides intention? Lingerie makes sense, it can be much more revealing, but I remember being on camp once and we were all changing in/out of wet suits, and when I turned my head to the girls direction one of them told me to stop peeping. I turned around, but I was confused because I couldn't tell if they were wearing bras/panties or just wearing bikinis, and I was wondering what the problem was if they were wearing it in the first place.

good point.