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Edawg649
December 3rd, 2015, 11:51 PM
I'm a 17 year old high school senior, have ADHD, and have been taking Adderall since I was 9 years old. I hit puberty later than most, around the age of 14. Everything other than that seemed normal. I was short, 5'0"end of my 8th grade year. That was the beginning of my supposed growth spurt. I grew from 5 feet to 5 feet 5 inches the end of sophomore year, when I was 16 years old. This rate of growth is about 2.5 inches per year, which is less than usual for a growth spurt. It is at this point that I basically stopped growing. In the past year and a half or two years, I have grown half an inch. I am currently 5'5.5", 126 lbs.
Possibly related, I took a summer off of Adderall preceding 8th grade. I weened myself off Adderall as I began Intuniv, a non-stimulant. During this ultimately unsuccessful period (I experienced extreme fatigue for months), I switched back to Adderall. Over the summer, I gained about 20 - 30 lbs from the extra appetite and I believe this break in Adderall may have allowed my body to start growing.
Now, I am 17 years old and I have the following physical features:
Mild Facial Hair (shave once a month, no clearly visible black hairs, just random long ones and long peach fuzz on upper lip with some black hairs)
Thick Pubic Hair reaching navel and spreading across fold to fold, below and including scrotum
A small cluster of brownish long chest hairs in center of chest, as well as individual long black hairs around nipples
My testicles are about 20mL in volume (ridiculous compared to my rate of growth, seems my genitals are the only things growing)
My penis is still growing, and looks like an adults, minus the girth which is fairly low for length (about 6.6 in erect)
Armpit hair has been the same for about 2 years now, just a very visible, long, brownish cluster on both
Visible long black hairs on legs spreading up to thighs
Voice started to change in about 8th grade and stopped breaking and cracking about 95% summer going into junior year. Voice is currently deep like other teens, but I feel like it should be a little deeper
I got my first breakout of acne about a month and a half ago, covers both cheeks and especially jawlines

My mother is 5'4" and my father is 5'10".

My concern is that I am done growing after growing at such a slow rate for such a short time. This is especially odd when compared to other physical characteristics of myself. I started getting the first long hairs on my face junior year. I have grown half an inch in the last 2 years. That can't be normal for someone who had a "growth spurt". Could this be caused by Adderall? There is no way I am done growing. Thank you!

EDIT: Tanner Stage Calculator usually gives me a result anywhere from 4 to 4.4

Slashman1
December 4th, 2015, 01:25 AM
you could go to the doctor and ask i have a cousin who is adhd and takes those pills but nothing has happened to him like this and he is the same age as you it likely is just you everybody grows at a different way i have a brother who is tall and my parents are short so its likely a very normal thing but you could still ask a doctor

hairy balls
December 4th, 2015, 03:32 AM
yes I feel it has something to do with the medication but you MUST NOT stop taking the meds unless the doctor says you can many guys who take medication get hairs in strange places and also some hairs grow real long I would not worry about that to much you didn't say if every thing in the manhood department is working ok . if it is I would not worry to much about your height some guys are short as one of my brothers is so don't worry about it just be guided by your doctor

KSI kid
December 4th, 2015, 06:14 AM
Your biggest concern seems to be your growth. If your growth plates haven't closed yet you can inject some Genotropin every night at bedtime to help your growth. It's a human growth hormone and must be prescribed. But at age 17 your growth plates may have closed.
Your body seems to have had a tough time maturing with all the meds screwing with it. Somehow I would say it has done remarkably well all things considered. You see, you never really needed any of those meds you took.
To quote the leading child psychiatrist, Dr. Richard Gardner:
My hope is that I can play a role in dispelling the myth of the existence of an isolated attention deficit disorder and that it will contribute to the importance of assessing OBJECTIVELY various signs and symptoms subsumed under the GMBDS (Group of Minimal Brain Dysfunction Syndromes) rubric. I believe that there is no such entity as an isolated attention deficit disorder. Most of the children so diagnosed, I believe, are suffering with a psychogenic disturbance which may have as a contributing factor the genetic high activity-assertiveness factor (necessary for hunters and warriors) that was important for survival in past centuries and which makes it difficult for some children to sit for 6 to 7 hours a day in a classroom. Almost always, boys.

The attractiveness of the ADD diagnosis is consistent with the recent trend in psychiatry to embrace biological explanations for a wide variety of phenomena that were viewed as psychogenic in the 1930s through the 1960s. Although biological psychiatry has certainly made its contributions, I believe that the pendulum has swung too far in the biological direction. Psychodynamic therapies are time-consuming and expensive. The factors that have contributed to such symptoms are complex and have often existed for generations. The biological explanation is not only attractive to patients, who want quick cures, but to therapists who don’t have the patience for the more laborious psychotherapeutic routes to alleviation. The biological approach is certainly an attractive one. Rather than spending long periods going into background history; rather than undergo the tedious process of trying to understand the multiplicity of factors operative that have produced the symptoms; all one has to do is supply the medicine that presumably will correct the biological abnormality that is theorized to be the cause of the disorder.

When it comes to obtaining grants, biologically oriented psychiatrists are obviously at an advantage over those who want to investigate the longer and presumably less predictably successful forms of treatment. These financial considerations have contributed to a dehumanization of psychiatric care. The biological approach is also more attractive to schools where large numbers of patients must be “processed” and provided services. There was a time when doctors treated patients. Now the lingo calls them “providers” and their treatment “delivery of services.” The terms conjure up visions of driving delivery trucks. Those who fund such research and treatment are more likely to be attracted to the presumably more “cost-effective” forms of therapy. The result of all of this is that the “customer” is being ripped off. The “product” being provided is often of specious, if of any, value at all. And the ADD diagnosis and its treatment is an excellent example of this phenomenon. My hope is that this web site will play some small role in reversing this trend but contribute as well to our better understanding of the psychiatric disorders of childhood.
I hope that helps a bit. Stop the Adderall (you never needed it) as it also kept James Stewart from racing motocross in 2015. Thought to be a P.E.D.

Bluebyrd
December 4th, 2015, 08:14 AM
I have no idea what aderall is but I suppose it's something for ADHD. It's possible that that is the reason that you have stopped growing but it's also possible that it's genetic. Neither of your parents are too tall and everything else sounds good to do with you and puberty so maybe you won't grow any more and that won't be a problem...

Hermes
December 4th, 2015, 09:56 AM
I think you may be onto something with the appetite and weight. In particular I am wondering if the Adderall worked as an appetite suppressant.

There has been speculation on why we start puberty at a younger age that older generations did and nutrition is one of the theories - in particular some have suggested that reaching a certain level of body fat is a prerequisite for puberty and if not reached puberty will be delayed almost as if the body "knows" that a certain amount of energy will be needed for puberty and waits until it can be sure it is available.

Thinking now of growth, again we are, on average, taller than older generations and again nutrition has been suggested as the explanation as this has happened over too short a period of time to be significant genetic change. Even before the pubertal growth spurt growth is not even - it goes in cycles. It seems likely that genetics determines how long the cycles are and how close together but nutrition influences the speed of growth during those cycles. Even young children naturally eat more when growing than resting.

So, what this amounts to is that something which interferes with your appetite could cause both later than average puberty and slow growth. I cannot say for sure whether Adderall does that but I think you said it was a stimulant and stimulants in general can suppress appetite so it certainly a possibility.

ska8er
December 4th, 2015, 10:44 AM
I think everything u have posted seems ok to me.
I would bring this up with ur doctor just as u brought
it up here concerning the med u r on. He would be
the one to say if there is something not right.