Gang of teens broke a dog's neck after drugging him and burning

[Stronk Serb]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12015100/RSPCA-Chunky-the-Chihuahua-set-on-fire-and-fed-drugs.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook

Anyone think domestic animal abuse should be punished like crimes against humans, at least where there is intent, like this case? Poor little Chucky.

[everlong]

But why?

[Jinglebottom]

Sickening. No other words.

Can we have the death penalty for animal abusers?

[Judean Zealot]

There should be some sort of punishment, although age plays a large role in this. Nonetheless, that punishment should reflect the fact that this barbarity was committed merely on an animal and not a human.

[Porpoise101]

It's disgusting to hurt a living thing indiscriminately. These people are barbarians. Even though I consider dogs to be kind of filthy, these people are much more so.

[Stronk Serb]

But why?

Some people are just sick in the head.

Sickening. No other words.

Can we have the death penalty for animal abusers?

Nope, prison sentences. The inmates will take care of the "tough guys" who torched a dog.

There should be some sort of punishment, although age plays a large role in this. Nonetheless, that punishment should reflect the fact that this barbarity was committed merely on an animal and not a human.

Agreed, but if this was commited because the accused was mentally ill, shouldn't he be tried as if he did that to a human? A lot of serial killers started off from animals, this would be prevention.

It's disgusting to hurt a living thing indiscriminately. These people are barbarians. Even though I consider dogs to be kind of filthy, these people are much more so.

I don't know, but is sickens me.

[Magenta]

I honestly can't even read the article. The title of this thread sickens me enough.

[sqishy]

The capacities of some to hurt others...

[Uranus]

And that ladies and gentlemen is why, our generations fucked

[sqishy]

And that ladies and gentlemen is why, our generations fucked

I wouldn't say it makes our one any different from the past (in that respect).

[Uranus]

I wouldn't say it makes our one any different from the past (in that respect).

Well, in that case humanity's fucked

[sqishy]

Well, in that case humanity's fucked

In some ways, perhaps, yes.

[Abhorrence]

The title of this thread literally made me want to throw up and cry. How can anyone be so damn cruel?

[thatcountrykid]

Anyone that can hurt an innocent animal is the worst kind because they will have no problem hurting an innocent stranger.

[Stronk Serb]

Anyone that can hurt an innocent animal is the worst kind because they will have no problem hurting an innocent stranger.

Pretty much, most mental cases who were serial killers started from animals.

[maddogmj77]

Agreed, but if this was commited because the accused was mentally ill, shouldn't he be tried as if he did that to a human? A lot of serial killers started off from animals, this would be prevention.

Now that's messed up, you can't throw people with serious mental disorders into prison with actual criminals. That's what psychiatric hospitals are for, so we can help them with what they're going through instead of ruining their lives.

[Stronk Serb]

Now that's messed up, you can't throw people with serious mental disorders into prison with actual criminals. That's what psychiatric hospitals are for, so we can help them with what they're going through instead of ruining their lives.

If they do simething like this, yes I would. The main reason is prevention. If they get the mental care they need in prison, they might become normal members of society after serving their sentence. If a person is caught purposely killing an animal, it's mental state should be evaluated before prison to see what kind of facility said person will be in. I would pretty much make asylum prisons. Like I said, many mentally ill people started first by killing animals and then switched to humans, I would lock up the animal killers as prevention.

[Judean Zealot]

You people have to bear in mind the age of the perpetrators. Kids can be cruel. In fact, on occasion, most are. You can't just lock a kid up in a psychiatric ward because he was cruel to animals.

[Stronk Serb]

You people have to bear in mind the age of the perpetrators. Kids can be cruel. In fact, on occasion, most are. You can't just lock a kid up in a psychiatric ward because he was cruel to animals.

I could understand but not approve beating a dog, but drugging, setting on fire and breaking it's neck? That's not just agression. That's pure insanity. The problem is that many serial killers first started from animals, if he would get treatmemt, he could be a functioning member of society.

[Judean Zealot]

I could understand but not approve beating a dog, but drugging, setting on fire and breaking it's neck? That's not just agression. That's pure insanity. The problem is that many serial killers first started from animals, if he would get treatmemt, he could be a functioning member of society.

I agree that it's horrific, but 13-15 year olds can be quite sadistic. All the hormones and shit make them crazy, and it's entirely likely that in 3 years they would be so ashamed of what they did that they wouldn't even step on a bug or something. I just think permanently labeling these kids is overkill.

[Stronk Serb]

I agree that it's horrific, but 13-15 year olds can be quite sadistic. All the hormones and shit make them crazy, and it's entirely likely that in 3 years they would be so ashamed of what they did that they wouldn't even step on a bug or something. I just think permanently labeling these kids is overkill.

Someone leaked their facebook profiles, they are 15-17 years old. Since they are minors nobody knows who they are. They can be taken for an exam, if they are mentally healthy, just fine them and add community work, if not, take them in for psychiatric therapy and fine them. This should not be held in the criminal record, maybe make it a crime against animals cathegory or something. But they knew pretty much that that was wrong. They should be punished with community work or something.

[Judean Zealot]

This I can agree with.

[phuckphace]

I'm just going to say you'd have to be pretty unhinged to torture an animal like this even if you're only 14. when I was that age it never crossed my mind and nobody else I knew would've been able to stomach it either. so yeah I think the psych eval is a good idea and if it turns up with a "probable serial killer" result then it's juvie time. I like prophylactic approaches to eliminating crime, and this area could be big for that.

[SethfromMI]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12015100/RSPCA-Chunky-the-Chihuahua-set-on-fire-and-fed-drugs.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook

Anyone think domestic animal abuse should be punished like crimes against humans, at least where there is intent, like this case? Poor little Chucky.

heart breaking :( I absolutely think humans should be charged and punished like crimes against humans when they do stuff like this. how messed up do people have to be :(

[Judean Zealot]

I'm just going to say you'd have to be pretty unhinged to torture an animal like this even if you're only 14. when I was that age it never crossed my mind and nobody else I knew would've been able to stomach it either. so yeah I think the psych eval is a good idea and if it turns up with a "probable serial killer" result then it's juvie time. I like prophylactic approaches to eliminating crime, and this area could be big for that.

Speaking strictly anecdotally here, I can say that some of my peers during my teen years were quite sadistic. Now, however, they are decent and functional members of society. Back then, though, they probably would've been capable of something like this.

I am also extremely strong on crime, but with minors and something like animal cruelty, I can't support more than a heavy fine to be payed off by community service. Oh, and their parents ought to give them a whipping they'll never forget.

[phuckphace]

man you must hang with a different crowd than I do cuz my friends were the kind who would bawl their eyes out when the goldfish died. I may or may not have shed a few tears irl for a dying kitten with leukemia. but I see your point bro.

[phuckphace]

oh and one time I was hanging at my cousin's place who lives on a bigass plot of land with shittons of trees, and we were innawoods with kittens following us, and we decided to try and build a fort out of logs. unfortunately a log rolled over and crushed one of the kittens, not killing it outright but leaving it with catastrophic organ and skeletal damage. it couldn't even squall, just gurgle pitifully. of course my cousin freaked the fuck out and they got a rescue party going to get it to the vet and, to my disgust, they drove around for an hour with a suffering kitten because they couldn't find the clinic. looking back I should've just killed the kitten immediately instead of drawing out its suffering far longer. that folks is one good reason to kill a domestic animal. it's not the least bit cruel to mercy-kill a mortally wounded animal and you shouldn't feel bad about having to do it. (this is important since we're on the topic of cruelty to animals). it's funny how animals get euthanasia to end suffering but humans legally cannot in a lot of places.

[Jinglebottom]

When the younger kids (11-13) found a stray kitty at school, they treated it as if it were a freaking toy. They were basically torturing it until I yelled at them to knock it off and leave the poor cat alone. It was only a couple of months old at max. But they knew what they were doing, they just didn't give a fuck as long as they found it entertaining.

[SethfromMI]

oh and one time I was hanging at my cousin's place who lives on a bigass plot of land with shittons of trees, and we were innawoods with kittens following us, and we decided to try and build a fort out of logs. unfortunately a log rolled over and crushed one of the kittens, not killing it outright but leaving it with catastrophic organ and skeletal damage. it couldn't even squall, just gurgle pitifully. of course my cousin freaked the fuck out and they got a rescue party going to get it to the vet and, to my disgust, they drove around for an hour with a suffering kitten because they couldn't find the clinic. looking back I should've just killed the kitten immediately instead of drawing out its suffering far longer. that folks is one good reason to kill a domestic animal. it's not the least bit cruel to mercy-kill a mortally wounded animal and you shouldn't feel bad about having to do it. (this is important since we're on the topic of cruelty to animals). it's funny how animals get euthanasia to end suffering but humans legally cannot in a lot of places.

as you said though that would have been out of mercy. You did not intentionally harm the kitten, it was just one of those sad, horrible accidents. several years ago there was a story (and I am sure this has happened more than once) of a girl who wanted to get back at her roommate who she was mad at. you know how she did it? threw her kitten in the oven and burned it alive? it takes a monster to do something like that. I don't care how old they are, it takes a monster to think of something like that. an animal may not be a person, I get it, but that doesn't mean animals should be treated cruelly like that. and I know some people would get into well we eat animals yadda yadda yadda. I am not saying there is an easy answer to this, but if someone is cruel enough to kill an innocent dog or cat in such a cruel fashion simply for kicks and giggles,severe punishment should be given. what exactly? I'm not sure

[Stronk Serb]

as you said though that would have been out of mercy. You did not intentionally harm the kitten, it was just one of those sad, horrible accidents. several years ago there was a story (and I am sure this has happened more than once) of a girl who wanted to get back at her roommate who she was mad at. you know how she did it? threw her kitten in the oven and burned it alive? it takes a monster to do something like that. I don't care how old they are, it takes a monster to think of something like that. an animal may not be a person, I get it, but that doesn't mean animals should be treated cruelly like that. and I know some people would get into well we eat animals yadda yadda yadda. I am not saying there is an easy answer to this, but if someone is cruel enough to kill an innocent dog or cat in such a cruel fashion simply for kicks and giggles,severe punishment should be given. what exactly? I'm not sure

What the fucking hell... If I wanted to get back on my roomate, I would smoke a whole pack of cigarettes without venting the place. I don't mind the smell but even after like three cigs with open windows, the walls absorb the smoke and reek for the next three days. Anyways, anything related to purposeful burning or a fire would be hard to explain how I did nothing. This way I can just say somethibg along the lines that it's time for me to do the poisoning.

[SethfromMI]

What the fucking hell... If I wanted to get back on my roomate, I would smoke a whole pack of cigarettes without venting the place. I don't mind the smell but even after like three cigs with open windows, the walls absorb the smoke and reek for the next three days. Anyways, anything related to purposeful burning or a fire would be hard to explain how I did nothing. This way I can just say somethibg along the lines that it's time for me to do the poisoning.

I agree with you. I was absolutely horrified when I saw the story. I have a cat and the thought of anyone harming my cat like that would be heart breaking for me. it was not my cat and my heart still broke for it

[KeeganW]

that is truly messed up to do to any animal