Multiple state governors on Monday opposed the relocation of Syrian refugees...(US)

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Multiple state governors on Monday opposed the relocation of Syrian refugees to the United States after deadly terrorist attacks in Paris last week.
Since the attacks, Republican governors of at least 222 states announced they would resist new settlement of migrants, citing security concerns. One Democrat — Gov. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire — urged the federal government to stop admitting refugees until more is known about its vetting process.

The State Department said it would not change its plan to accept 10,000 Syrian refugees in the next year amid ongoing conflict in the country.

See CNBC's full Paris coverage here

Governors of these states spoke out against settlement:

Alabama
Arizona
Arkansas
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Louisiana
Maine
Michigan
Mississippi
Nebraska
New Hampshire
North Carolina
Ohio
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Texas
Wisconsin
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley did not immediately oppose admitting refugees outright, but said, "if we need to change our policy, we will."

On Monday, Democratic governors of at least six states announced they would continue to allow resettlement:

Connecticut
Hawaii
Kentucky
Minnesota
Pennsylvania
Washington
Statements by the governors came as President Barack Obama addressed the G-20 meeting in Turkey. He called suggestions from political leaders that a religious test be applied to refugees seeking asylum in the U.S., "shameful."
"That's not American," he said. "That's not who we are. We do not have religious tests to our compassion."

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Europe's migrant policy has been in focus after it emerged that two suspected attackers may have entered the bloc through Greece. Some European policymakers have urged restraint on a tough response.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Monday said his state will not accept any refugees from Syria, and he called on the U.S. to "act similarly."

"I — and millions of Americans — implore you to halt your plans to accept more Syrian refugees in the United States," Abbott wrote in a letter to Obama. "A Syrian 'refugee' appears to have been part of the Paris terror attack. American humanitarian compassion could be exploited to expose Americans to similar deadly danger. The reasons for such concerns are plentiful."

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In a statement Monday, the Council on American-Islamic Relations criticized calls to bar refugees from the U.S.

"Defeating ISIS involves projecting American ideals to the world. This un-American rejection of refugees, who will face significant security checks prior to entry, sends entirely the wrong message," the organization said.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott said Monday he would not support requests to settle hundreds of Syrian refugees in the state. Noting that the state does not have the authority to cut off federal support for resettlement, he urged Congress to take "immediate and aggressive action" to cut off funding.

Others like Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and Indiana Gov. Mike Pence announced they would instruct state agencies to suspend relocation of refugees in their states.

The moves Monday follow opposition to refugees from Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley and Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder on Sunday.


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Bentley said he would oppose any attempt to relocate Syrian refugees to Alabama through the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program.

"The acts of terror committed over the weekend are a tragic reminder to the world that evil exists and takes the form of terrorists who seek to destroy the basic freedoms we will always fight to preserve," he said in the statement. "I will not place Alabamians at even the slightest, possible risk of an attack on our people."

No Syrian refugees have been relocated in Alabama to date, Bentley said. He added that the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency is working with the FBI, Department of Homeland Security and federal intelligence partners to monitor any possible threats.

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In Michigan, Snyder's office released a statement Sunday saying it would not accept any Syrian refugees until the Department of Homeland Security fully reviewed its procedures, according to the Detroit Free Press.

Michigan is home to the second-largest number of Arab immigrants among U.S. states, according to the Arab American Institute. There are 120,000 Michiganders of Lebanese and Syrian descent, and 100,000 of Iraqi descent, according to U.S. website Arab America. Many are Christians.

"Michigan is a welcoming state and we are proud of our rich history of immigration," Snyder said in the statement, according to the newspaper. "But our first priority is protecting the safety of our residents."

Kristine Van Noord, a refugee program manager for Bethany Christian Services in Michigan, told a local radio station in October that the organization settled 27 Syrian refugees in the last fiscal year and was expecting the number for next year to be "much, much higher."

— CNBC's Reem Nasr contributed to this report.

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Bringing them will only bring problems to you...... think about it ! :)

[phuckphace]

it's (literally) an Evangelical conspiracy!

daily reminder that these folks are at least as bad as progressives when it comes to pathological altruism. hey guys since Christ's salvation is for all people, why not import 144,000 foreigners a year?

[Jinglebottom]

Bringing them will only bring problems to you...... think about it ! :)
Quoted for truth.

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Quoted for truth.

I really feel bad for Lebanon. Victim of its own generosity.....
Palestinians and now Syrians...

[Jinglebottom]

I really feel bad for Lebanon. Victim of its own generosity.....
Palestinians and now Syrians...
The majority of these aren't even families. They're just reckless young men that are ought to start trouble one way or another. That's why they get no respect from me.

[sqishy]

I have heard that all these govenors have no legal power to do what they want to do, so I'll abruptly stop my response there.

Perhaps Vlerchan would be of help here.

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The majority of these aren't even families. They're just reckless young men that are ought to start trouble one way or another. That's why they get no respect from me.

Sometimes,we have to ask ourselves who got bigger balls....
These women fight for their families,their identity....... while others prefer to flee to safe Europe like sissies and let their women and children in warzone....

http://i.imgur.com/aHlf5Yn.jpg


Too bad there aren't fences with armed soldiers and dogs...... shoot a few of them and it is guaranteed they won't come back....

[Miserabilia]

Sometimes,we have to ask ourselves who got bigger balls....
These women fight for their families,their identity....... while others prefer to flee to safe Europe like sissies and let their women and children in warzone....

image (http://i.imgur.com/aHlf5Yn.jpg)


Too bad there aren't fences with armed soldiers and dogs...... shoot a few of them and it is guaranteed they won't come back....

Wow first of all that is more than slightly fucked up, if that's the way you think of people I'm not surprised you don't symphathize with the refugees.
that picture is a gross generalization, and I seriously hope you don't think the women there turn into soldiers.
Yes some do fight, but even there most fighters are still men.
And why would they have to fight? It's not their battle, influence from the west is pretty much the reason IS could gain their power.

[lacey02]

I think countries like the US have always accepted refugees and that we need to continue that. We have to remember to be the good guys so that the bad guys can't create more bad guys by controlling them all.

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Wow first of all that is more than slightly fucked up, if that's the way you think of people I'm not surprised you don't symphathize with the refugees.
that picture is a gross generalization, and I seriously hope you don't think the women there turn into soldiers.
Yes some do fight, but even there most fighters are still men.
And why would they have to fight? It's not their battle, influence from the west is pretty much the reason IS could gain their power.

I show no sympathy to ECONOMIC MIGRANTS,you aren't considered as refugee if you flee the first safe country you were in. A lot of failed people from other countries in Asia and whatsoever else claim to be from Syria. And then coming here demanding demanding demanding and again demanding. They are acting like disappointed tourists "food no good","internet is slow". Or these "refugees" fleeing Finland because it's too cold,there's no bar,no restaurant,no people only cars ! Beggars can't choose.
"refugees" sued Germany for being given benefits not too early ! It reminds me of that african ECONOMIC MIGRANT saying "we need help please help us" while he had iPhones (Or iPod ) headsets. Take me for a fool. Nobody checks who is entering our zone,one of the terrorist of Paris has been registered as a "refugee" in Greece ! In the past,to deal with invaders,we used machineguns.....
I really like Hungary's decision,build a fence and let the dogs bark. Orban is very respected by the real Europeans,not the libertards and sissies leftists

http://i.imgur.com/XJCAVeV.png

"They thought they could cross our border."

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/09/16/gettyimages-488449716_custom-46b10ddd9df71c7d1eb3b9c4352b47bed5d47d15-s900-c85.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/sZEZaCB.jpg

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image (http://i.imgur.com/sZEZaCB.jpg)

The libertards were playing with that photo of the drowned boy to say "Hey look,it's your fault,open the borders!!"

[Miserabilia]

I show no sympathy to ECONOMIC MIGRANTS,you aren't considered as refugee if you flee the first safe country you were in. A lot of failed people from other countries in Asia and whatsoever else claim to be from Syria. And then coming here demanding demanding demanding and again demanding. They are acting like disappointed tourists "food no good","internet is slow". Or these "refugees" fleeing Finland because it's too cold,there's no bar,no restaurant,no people only cars ! Beggars can't choose.
"refugees" sued Germany for being given benefits not too early ! It reminds me of that african ECONOMIC MIGRANT saying "we need help please help us" while he had iPhones (Or iPod ) headsets. Take me for a fool. Nobody checks who is entering our zone,one of the terrorist of Paris has been registered as a "refugee" in Greece ! In the past,to deal with invaders,we used machineguns.....
I really like Hungary's decision,build a fence and let the dogs bark. Orban is very respected by the real Europeans,not the libertards and sissies leftists


Right, they are fleeing from war so they can't complain!!!!1

Lmao hear this everyday, really do not understand this logic tbh.
So people that have most likely have a harder life than you deserve less?

Do you honestly think they're just pretending? You're talking of a giant group of people here, the exeptions don't show anything about the whole.
If you see the shit going on in syria you can see why people are mass migrating away.
They have had difficult expensive and time consuming journeys to get here, have had to leave their homes and families behind, so yes I do think they have a right to complain and a right to ask for more than the bare neccecities.

one of the terrorist of Paris has been registered as a "refugee" in Greece !

oh my god! get the military ready! get all refugees out of here because ONE OF THEM WAS A TERRORIST.
Oh and also every other one of them already lived there.
So statisticly there's more chance someone who lives in your street is a terrorist for IS than somebody migrating here as refugee...
But okay let's ignore that for now.


As for the economic migrants bullshit, economic migrants have ALWAYS been around from all regions of the world.
Do you think that once IS terror started people from syria started fleeing so much more because they collectively decided "wow this is a great way to make money!'.

You can sit safely at home and complain about people because of the negative exeptions, fleeing from terror that only a glimpse you've seen of in your own country. You can tell them no, and feel safer at home. You can tell them to stop complaining because they should be grateful to be anywhere in the first place and that's fine. You're obviously not alone, in fact the vast majority of my friends and people in my generation feel this way. Votes for anti-refugee parties are going up, so congratulations, you're all helping so many people by this by protecting our precious people from refugees.



You're entitled to your fears, your opinions. I understand your fears, war is closer than ever, death by IS terrorism is closer than ever.
That's why especialy in times like this I think it's more important than ever to remember symphathy, beyond instinctive fear. Sympathy and compassion even to those you don't understand and even to those who do not treat you with respect in return.

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Right, they are fleeing from war so they can't complain!!!!1

Lmao hear this everyday, really do not understand this logic tbh.
So people that have most likely have a harder life than you deserve less?

They are complaining for not being treated like royalty. If i was a refugee i would be so happy to be in a secure country,being given everything i need for free ! But no,they want palaces ! And why not blonde girls,because some smugglers tell them that there are free blonde girls,that swedish girls seek real men ! Hahaha ! "refugees" with smartphones. Hahaha. Take me for a fool.


Do you honestly think they're just pretending? You're talking of a giant group of people here, the exeptions don't show anything about the whole.
If you see the shit going on in syria you can see why people are mass migrating away.
They have had difficult expensive and time consuming journeys to get here, have had to leave their homes and families behind, so yes I do think they have a right to complain and a right to ask for more than the bare neccecities.

Why don't they fight and tell their families "Don't worry,we won't have to leave our country,we will fight for it,for you,we will triumph". No these fat lazy things leave their family behind and flee to Europe. I only see few women and children,eldery,only fat bags that have the capabilities to fight.




oh my god! get the military ready! get all refugees out of here because ONE OF THEM WAS A TERRORIST.
Oh and also every other one of them already lived there.
So statisticly there's more chance someone who lives in your street is a terrorist for IS than somebody migrating here as refugee...
But okay let's ignore that for now.

ISIS members are among them,ISIS is saying it clearly,but sissies in Bruxelles don't listen,bringing them will only bring problems to our society.....
And as if we could "welcome them" !! We have a high debt to gdp ratio,unemployment rate is high,we have a lot of homeless in our streets ! But yeah,we should care first about those coming and who will hate us etc.
We are Kuffars to them,just look how those already here are causing problems,aren't well integrated,and you want to welcome the garbage of world ? God.

Nice !
It's time for The Netherlands to embrace Sharia.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SKA_2VixzG8/UbQBqAw-43I/AAAAAAAAMB8/ncSIUo3bMKs/s640/sharia+law+netherlands-550x340.jpg


As for the economic migrants bullshit, economic migrants have ALWAYS been around from all regions of the world.
Do you think that once IS terror started people from syria started fleeing so much more because they collectively decided "wow this is a great way to make money!'.

They seek the easy life,such as those coming from Africa.

You can sit safely at home and complain about people because of the negative exeptions, fleeing from terror that only a glimpse you've seen of in your own country. You can tell them no, and feel safer at home. You can tell them to stop complaining because they should be grateful to be anywhere in the first place and that's fine. You're obviously not alone, in fact the vast majority of my friends and people in my generation feel this way. Votes for anti-refugee parties are going up, so congratulations, you're all helping so many people by this by protecting our precious people from refugees.

The far right is growing even more,and i expect after the Paris attacks to grow even more,there will be the regional elections in the next months and we will see the result ! I have many friends that would never sympathize with the National Front,but after the recent attacks,they changed their views.
People were saying that Marine le Pen is racist bla bla bla..... But after this,when you hear her speaches,you say "Oh yeah she's right".
Of course,we should help in priority our people,many are in needs. Why should i care for "refugees" ? Did i tell them to come ? I suggest you to welcome in your house those poor refugees.



You're entitled to your fears, your opinions. I understand your fears, war is closer than ever, death by IS terrorism is closer than ever.
That's why especialy in times like this I think it's more important than ever to remember symphathy, beyond instinctive fear. Sympathy and compassion even to those you don't understand and even to those who do not treat you with respect in return.

This year alone,Germany is going to receive 1.000.000 migrants,tomorrow maybe 2,the next 5. It won't stop and continue.
Of course i'm afraid,i don't want to see my countries becoming a trash like Sweden is ! The rape capital of Europe.......... If Sweden continues to accept so many people at this rate,ethnic swedes wouldn't even represent 50% of the population....

I suggest you to accept these poor people in your house ! What ? Are u racist ? Embrace multiculturalism or you will be forced to !

At least,Eastern European people aren't so sissies like the Western European people are !

[Vlerchan]

Perhaps Vlerchan would be of help here.
I'm no expert but as far as I'm aware all jurisdiction resides with the federal gvt. as per Hines (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hines_v._Davidowitz). I would imagine Republicans realise this: It seems quite settled.

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I'll also mention here that I can't access broadband at home until the end of the month which means I won't be making more than short posts. When I get back to a broadband capable PC I'll make all the responses these threads deserve - and don't deserve.

[thatcountrykid]

I think countries like the US have always accepted refugees and that we need to continue that. We have to remember to be the good guys so that the bad guys can't create more bad guys by controlling them all.

Being the good guy can get you hurt. Sometimes it's best to look out for your self and this is one of those times.

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Miserabilia

This morning,the French police conducted a raid in a suburb not so far from Paris,one woman fired with Kalachnikovs and detonated a suicide vest. (No cops killed luckily.)
Another one has been killed by a sniper of the swat team. Here's your future if you keep tolerating them. You can say "one doesnt represent all",but when people are fed up they will give a sh*t about if they represent all or not.

[Miserabilia]

Miserabilia

This morning,the French police conducted a raid in a suburb not so far from Paris,one woman fired with Kalachnikovs and detonated a suicide vest. (No cops killed luckily.)
Another one has been killed by a sniper of the swat team. Here's your future if you keep tolerating them. You can say "one doesnt represent all",but when people are fed up they will give a sh*t about if they represent all or not.

You do realize paris's terrorists already lived in france/belgium?
Supposedlu with the exception of one (the first case so far).

So when you say "them", you mean ISIS terrorist. That has nothing to do with the stream of refugees coming in besides being the cause of their fleeing.

If this is the reason you want to stop letting them in you are doing exactly what IS wants, to put muslim refugees in a position where they are denied here and more volnerable to IS influence.
Muslisms fleeing from syria at this moment probably hate IS even more than you, to say otherwise just because they're based on the same religion is either ignorant or just plain denying the truth, they are running from a common enemy with us.

The very very very VERY vast majoriy of them are simply middle eastern people moving away from the threat that is the CAUSE of the problems here, they aren't the cause, they have a common enemy.
The terrorist in paris again today/yesterday are not normal muslim people from syria fleeing, they are IS terrorist, they are the people the refugees are fleeing from.

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You do realize paris's terrorists already lived in france/belgium?
Supposedlu with the exception of one (the first case so far).

Yeah and you want to bring more of them and more problems ? NOBODY checks who are they,ISIS is saying we will send soldiers to Europe and we are accepting all the garbage of Asia and Middle east without knowing who they are.
Most of them aren't even Syrians.
Many failed people from Asia benefit from this situation,come as "refugees",claim to be Syrians and then enter to Europe ! In Bulgaria (If i remember) thousands of fake Syrian passports were found !


So when you say "them", you mean ISIS terrorist. That has nothing to do with the stream of refugees coming in besides being the cause of their fleeing.

Someone cannot be considered as refugee if he flees the first safe country he is in !
They want to choose the countries they want to be in,that makes them NOW ECONOMIC MIGRANTS and not refugees then.

If this is the reason you want to stop letting them in you are doing exactly what IS wants, to put muslim refugees in a position where they are denied here and more volnerable to IS influence.

We have enough problems at home,why allowing more backward people that have different cultures,way of life from us ?
And the Arab countries are doing NOTHING,instead Saudi Arabia proposed Germany to build Mosques for these "syrian refugees" ! Why should we take them ? Muslim countries should help their fellow,it is called Ummah if i remember,but they do nothing.


Muslisms fleeing from syria at this moment probably hate IS even more than you, to say otherwise just because they're based on the same religion is either ignorant or just plain denying the truth, they are running from a common enemy with us.

So you will take the bet of letting entering everyone including an army of terrorists in the name of "Humanity" ?

The very very very VERY vast majoriy of them are simply middle eastern people moving away from the threat that is the CAUSE of the problems here, they aren't the cause, they have a common enemy.
The terrorist in paris again today/yesterday are not normal muslim people from syria fleeing, they are IS terrorist, they are the people the refugees are fleeing from.

For God's sake,where are the refugees ? I used to see Women,Children and eldery as refugees,today you see fat bags with smartphones and you dare to call 'em refugees ? If you read the recent reports,the "refugees" as you love to call them,more than the majorty is made of men and if i remember only 28% of them are women and Children !
If that is their ennemy,they should fight it,promising their families they won't have to leave and will triumph ! Nope,those fat bags are running away like cowards letting their family back in their countries.

No wonder we are being invaded,you are too brainwashed,pro "refugees" and libertards want to play with the emotional card to let everyone in.....
We are heading to a collective suicide,but we must shut up ! If we don't we would be called,racist,neo nazis and whatsoever else.... just because you want to defend your country,values,culture and do not want to become like Pakistan.



As i said,you should welcome them in ur house. What ? Are u racist ? Meh,it's in the name of humanity,fck the borders,fck the differences,we are all the same. HAHAHAHA.

Look how these muslims in Netherlands are really well integrated,they love your country your people and they thank you for welcoming them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ky2H7dr8-g

It's sure that with this mentality,i expect an excellent future for the Netherlands.

[Porpoise101]

Why can't Europe adopt birthright citizenship and force culture down immigrant's throats? That's the American way... (best way)

[Miserabilia]

Yeah and you want to bring more of them and more problems ? NOBODY checks who are they,ISIS is saying we will send soldiers to Europe and we are accepting all the garbage of Asia and Middle east without knowing who they are.
Most of them aren't even Syrians.
Many failed people from Asia benefit from this situation,come as "refugees",claim to be Syrians and then enter to Europe ! In Bulgaria (If i remember) thousands of fake Syrian passports were found !

The state does check who they are though it takes time.
ISIS may threat about sending more soldiers, but they have no advantage in posing as refugees; this takes more time money and trouble, so they will obviously choose another way of entering europe.
Have any statistics on that last part besides just thinking it?




Someone cannot be considered as refugee if he flees the first safe country he is in !
They want to choose the countries they want to be in,that makes them NOW ECONOMIC MIGRANTS and not refugees then.

Syria isn't safe, the middle east isn't safe, even if you are directly safe it's definetely shitty to live in a country going through civil war.
Even if it would make them anything else than refugees, it makes them migrants; so what? You can scream economic migrants, how is that the most horrible thing in the world? They can contribute to society, and that is ignoring the fact that most of them are in fact temporary refugees.


We have enough problems at home,why allowing more backward people that have different cultures,way of life from us ?
And the Arab countries are doing NOTHING,instead Saudi Arabia proposed Germany to build Mosques for these "syrian refugees" ! Why should we take them ? Muslim countries should help their fellow,it is called Ummah if i remember,but they do nothing.


I aggree that people from the middle east are so radicaly different than us, probably the least progressive or liberal people out there, completely different culture, promoting gender inequality, xenophobia etc.
Does that mean we can't allow them in when they flee from war torn countries? This should be seen as an oppertunity to bring our culture to them.

Turning them away actualy makes them more likely to be turned to IS and similar organisations; they already mostly have a deep internal hatred or atleast mistrust of the west especialy since we are the reason IS was able to take over in the first place;
then when they flee here they are turned down, those people are the most sensitive to IS propaganda.

Yes those other islamic countries should have taken them in, they don't because they are pieces of shit, that is not the refugees fault and "they should have" is not a valid argument for us not to; it's just a shame.



So you will take the bet of letting entering everyone including an army of terrorists in the name of "Humanity" ?


Proof to me that there is an "army of terrorist" as refugees, absolutely no proof and no previous experiences like this. There's no advantage for IS to pose as refugees. I'm not saying I don't understand your fear, I'm saying many of those people are as scared as you and me. Who are we to turn them down, having it most likely better than them?
I find that selfish.


For God's sake,where are the refugees ? I used to see Women,Children and eldery as refugees,today you see fat bags with smartphones and you dare to call 'em refugees ? If you read the recent reports,the "refugees" as you love to call them,more than the majorty is made of men and if i remember only 28% of them are women and Children !
If that is their ennemy,they should fight it,promising their families they won't have to leave and will triumph ! Nope,those fat bags are running away like cowards letting their family back in their countries.

They are refugees as they are migrating from a country in a civil war.
That's not jus what I like to call them because of pity, nobody does. I don't pity them because all of them are different, who knows what people they are and how heavily they are affected? How much they oppose IS? Aren't they just moving out of selfishnes? I don't know.

Do you think syrian civilians can simply form an army and destroy IS?
What happened to the UN, and helping others? Even if their bonds haven't been the best?
Syrian people =/= syrian goverment
syrian people =/= IS

Terrorism is modern war, IS has crazy weaponry power and money, an army of civilians not helped from the outside stands no chance. It would be like a mass murder, that is already happen to non-supporters of IS in syria.
If IS was that easy to defeat the western countries would have succeeded in that already.
It's easy to just look and say "you deal with it".

And yes we could, we could turn away all refugees, leave syria and let that shit settle itself out; and I want to.
But realisticly, the most islamic countries do not oppose IS, meaning they would probably win this civil war, claim new terrority, and you'd have one more hyper-islamic sharia law country.
That's by far not the worst part;

not allowing refugees in does not stop them from trying. They are continiously traveling, what do you do once they're here?
First it's fences, than military; would you go as far as to use brutal force to keep them out, even knowing it probably contains atleast some amount of innocent civilians?

If there's one thing history has taught us is that mass migration is unstoppable, saying no doesn't help; someone has to have a solution, saying no isn't a solution; the problem is still there right outside of your borders.




No wonder we are being invaded,you are too brainwashed,pro "refugees" and libertards want to play with the emotional card to let everyone in.....
We are heading to a collective suicide,but we must shut up ! If we don't we would be called,racist,neo nazis and whatsoever else.... just because you want to defend your country,values,culture and do not want to become like Pakistan.

"brainwashed" "libertards"
Wow, thank you for enlighting me with your unique and completely independent self-made opinion. I'm sure you made all this up yourself and everyone you know is against this.
But obviously they aren't.

Brain washed? How about informed? Informed enough to ignore instinctive fears and pattriotism. Allowing in refugees does not make your country like pakistan.

The fact that you think we're heading to a "collective suicide' shows your mindset well; doomthinking, pessimistic. Your entire reasoning here is based on negatives, saying "no".




As i said,you should welcome them in ur house. What ? Are u racist ? Meh,it's in the name of humanity,fck the borders,fck the differences,we are all the same. HAHAHAHA.


Not even close to what I'm implying.


Look how these muslims in Netherlands are really well integrated,they love your country your people and they thank you for welcoming them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ky2H7dr8-g

It's sure that with this mentality,i expect an excellent future for the Netherlands.

First of all, lmao. These are just asshole kids.
They're stupid; I'm confronted with kids that act and talk the same way every day, but they are white and often christian.
This has nothing to do with being muslim, assholes are assholes, and stupid people that are easily influenced by their parent's moronoic religious interpetation are stupid people that are easily influenced by their parents moronic religious interpetation.

Secondly these aren't even syrian refugees, they are just random asshole muslim kids, probably even second generation.
I'm confronted with these kids every day.



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The state does check who they are though it takes time.
ISIS may threat about sending more soldiers, but they have no advantage in posing as refugees; this takes more time money and trouble, so they will obviously choose another way of entering europe.
Have any statistics on that last part besides just thinking it?

Nobody does,we are flooded and cannot check everyone,heck haven't you seen that video where some Austrian cops tried to stop an horde of them ?
They couldn't and everyone crossed the border without being worried,in the past do this,and you'll get a bullet straight in your head.







Syria isn't safe, the middle east isn't safe, even if you are directly safe it's definetely shitty to live in a country going through civil war.
Even if it would make them anything else than refugees, it makes them migrants; so what? You can scream economic migrants, how is that the most horrible thing in the world? They can contribute to society, and that is ignoring the fact that most of them are in fact temporary refugees.

I've never said Syria was safe. Some countries in middle east are,Turkey is safe,Jordan is safe,Lebanon is almost safe,Saudi Arabia is safe,Qatar is,UAE is,Kuwait is,Bahrain is,Oman is.
They have no interest in going back as they can enjoy the easy life,that's why they are coming,otherwise they would say in the sage countries in the middle east and go back to their country when the war will end.
Why taking the risk to cross seas when you have safe countries near yours ?



I aggree that people from the middle east are so radicaly different than us, probably the least progressive or liberal people out there, completely different culture, promoting gender inequality, xenophobia etc.
Does that mean we can't allow them in when they flee from war torn countries? This should be seen as an oppertunity to bring our culture to them.

But our culture our way of life is against their beliefs,that's what some people cannot understand. For them,it's like entering a new and weird world.
It's like if u go to Saudi Arabia you'll see how they see some things are far different from ours PoWs.
But then it's ok,i suggest the French government to open a festival for integration,and bring a lot of pork and wine.

Turning them away actualy makes them more likely to be turned to IS and similar organisations; they already mostly have a deep internal hatred or atleast mistrust of the west especialy since we are the reason IS was able to take over in the first place;
then when they flee here they are turned down, those people are the most sensitive to IS propaganda.

Yeah..... Nothing to do with them running away like cowards,some men with AKs and jeeps literally obliterated a modern army trained armed,equipped by the Americans.......... Haven't your hear that story of ghost soldiers ?
These people should stay in the safe countries in middle east,and maybe the EU should help those countries financially and give them humanitarian aid.

Yes those other islamic countries should have taken them in, they don't because they are pieces of shit, that is not the refugees fault and "they should have" is not a valid argument for us not to; it's just a shame.

Europe should pressure these countries to open their borders to their "brothers". If i was a Syrian,i would feel ashamed to have them as "brothers". I mean Syria always welcomed the (this time) REAL REFUGEES from Palestine etc. but how they (arabs) backstabbed them is really disgusting.
I mean Syria was always welcoming the refugees from Arab countries with open arms.

Proof to me that there is an "army of terrorist" as refugees, absolutely no proof and no previous experiences like this. There's no advantage for IS to pose as refugees. I'm not saying I don't understand your fear, I'm saying many of those people are as scared as you and me. Who are we to turn them down, having it most likely better than them?
I find that selfish.

We aren't in every people head's,we don't know what are their motivations,you don't imagine how they hate us,and they'll do everything to attack us. One of the suicide bomber of Paris passed through Greece and maybe more and more are following,do you imagine ? Now you can without being worried,carry suicide vests,AKs and blow yourself and shoot everyone ! In Europe !
Everything should be done to avoid something similar to happen,it's time to stop opening our doors without knowing who the fck we are "welcoming".
i hope one day the people will sentence to death these politicians for treason.



They are refugees as they are migrating from a country in a civil war.
That's not jus what I like to call them because of pity, nobody does. I don't pity them because all of them are different, who knows what people they are and how heavily they are affected? How much they oppose IS? Aren't they just moving out of selfishnes? I don't know.

A refugee is considered as so if he seeks refuge in the first safe countries. If you move to another country (and you choose it) that is if not thousands kilometers away,you aren't a refugee.

Do you think syrian civilians can simply form an army and destroy IS?
What happened to the UN, and helping others? Even if their bonds haven't been the best?
Syrian people =/= syrian goverment
syrian people =/= IS

They should join the ranks of their national army,fighting for their country.
The Syrian army might not be perfect and clean but is far better than all those terrorists that we support..... "we call them moderate". LOL.

Recently,a Polish politician proposed to create an army with the men coming in Europe.... arming them,financing them..... But no they prefer to drink a coffee with the money of the good German taxpayer.


Terrorism is modern war, IS has crazy weaponry power and money, an army of civilians not helped from the outside stands no chance. It would be like a mass murder, that is already happen to non-supporters of IS in syria.
If IS was that easy to defeat the western countries would have succeeded in that already.
It's easy to just look and say "you deal with it".

You are acting as if they had nuclear weapons.
These are only men with Toyota (Nobody asks why they always have Toyota jeeps ? It's interesting to know where they got them..) and AKs,when they capture tanks,they prefer to destroy it rather using it..

Here's what they did to a MODERN US tank of the Iraqi army... called the "Abram"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn0v1Tu1Nig

If we want to fight them effectively,we have to tell these countries supporting them to stop ! I target Turkey,Saudi Arabia etc.
If you want to weaken them,you have to strike their ressources.... such as oil refinery,without it,they won't have any money. Stop buying their oil.
Air campaign will not be successfull,we have to fight them on the ground,and only the Syrian army and it's allies dare to do so.
I think we should give air support to the Syrian army as the Russians are doing and they'll clean the area.


And yes we could, we could turn away all refugees, leave syria and let that shit settle itself out; and I want to.
But realisticly, the most islamic countries do not oppose IS, meaning they would probably win this civil war, claim new terrority, and you'd have one more hyper-islamic sharia law country.
That's by far not the worst part;

Let the Islamic countries deal with that. Let them fight each other and blew themselves up. Saudi Arabia wants to destroy the shiites and Iran ? Let them do so. Why not nuke the middle east. And we would save the planet.


not allowing refugees in does not stop them from trying. They are continiously traveling, what do you do once they're here?
First it's fences, than military; would you go as far as to use brutal force to keep them out, even knowing it probably contains atleast some amount of innocent civilians?

We have to take every measures so they avoid to come here. We should take exemple of Australia. They will continue to try,but in far less numbers.
They have to go back to their countries. You think Australia cares if one is persecuted or not ?
We have to take every decisions to protect our borders. Hungary build fences,they authorized the Police-Army to use the force if needed,and arresting everyone that is damaging the fence. And now ? Hungary is no longer being invaded. If we do the same thing on European scale,they would stop to come,knowing nobody wants them,nobody will take them.
What did we do when persons tried to "cross" the Berlin wall ?

If there's one thing history has taught us is that mass migration is unstoppable, saying no doesn't help; someone has to have a solution, saying no isn't a solution; the problem is still there right outside of your borders.

Of course if you don't take radical decisions,more and more will come because they know if they are in shitty boats,the navies will save them,they won't be sent back..... It is expected that by 2017,3 millions more will come ! Do you imagine !






"brainwashed" "libertards"
Wow, thank you for enlighting me with your unique and completely independent self-made opinion. I'm sure you made all this up yourself and everyone you know is against this.
But obviously they aren't.

Of course,i do not respect the persons that want Europe to commit a collective suicide in the name of "humanism" ? Is that because of the WW2 that people in Europe (at least Western) are becoming sissies ?
Where are the real patriots ? Who do not want to see their country invaded,changing into a Pakistan ?


Brain washed? How about informed? Informed enough to ignore instinctive fears and pattriotism. Allowing in refugees does not make your country like pakistan.

In the long run,if you allow more and more people who hate you that they are ready to kill you,who do not integrate and want the native people to literally be like them. They literally want to change our countries into the shitholes they came from.
Glad that they were throwed into the sea when they were in Spain...

The fact that you think we're heading to a "collective suicide' shows your mindset well; doomthinking, pessimistic. Your entire reasoning here is based on negatives, saying "no".

When we see the reality,outside the medias,of course of PoW changes.
Let's stop the politically correct and see the truth before the truth blows in front of us !

First of all, lmao. These are just asshole kids.
They're stupid; I'm confronted with kids that act and talk the same way every day, but they are white and often christian.
This has nothing to do with being muslim, assholes are assholes, and stupid people that are easily influenced by their parent's moronoic religious interpetation are stupid people that are easily influenced by their parents moronic religious interpetation.

If the Kids are like that,imagine how the parents are ? :wub:

Secondly these aren't even syrian refugees, they are just random asshole muslim kids, probably even second generation.
I'm confronted with these kids every day.





I've never said they were Syrians.
"Asshole muslim kids" At least.
And you find normal to them and probably their parents to hold this Pow ?
If everybody isn't thanking you for welcoming them,feeding them etc. then there is a big problem.
Ok stop,being so islamophobic,you just didn't understand their message of peace embrace their culture,their tolerence...
Accept everyone,you want.

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I'm no expert but as far as I'm aware all jurisdiction resides with the federal gvt. as per Hines (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hines_v._Davidowitz). I would imagine Republicans realise this: It seems quite settled.

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I'll also mention here that I can't access broadband at home until the end of the month which means I won't be making more than short posts. When I get back to a broadband capable PC I'll make all the responses these threads deserve - and don't deserve.

Alright.

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Nobody does,we are flooded and cannot check everyone,heck haven't you seen that video where some Austrian cops tried to stop an horde of them ?
They couldn't and everyone crossed the border without being worried,in the past do this,and you'll get a bullet straight in your head.

This is an example, you can't base your entire point of view on isolated incidents (well appearently you can)..
I could also think of examples that are supposed to bring forward sympathy to fugetives instead of exmamples that bring out my hatred, examples like these are targeted towards emotions, I see no use in them for deciding something political.









I've never said Syria was safe. Some countries in middle east are,Turkey is safe,Jordan is safe,Lebanon is almost safe,Saudi Arabia is safe,Qatar is,UAE is,Kuwait is,Bahrain is,Oman is.
They have no interest in going back as they can enjoy the easy life,that's why they are coming,otherwise they would say in the sage countries in the middle east and go back to their country when the war will end.
Why taking the risk to cross seas when you have safe countries near yours ?


They have no interest in going back, not because they want an "easy life".
The fact that they risk their lives, walk through a continent, endure abuse and a shitty time just to get somewhere shows that what they want isn't east.
The fact is the countries in the middle east are either going through their own revolution with either IS or IS-similar uprisings, or are still ruled by dictator under islam law, and countries like SA obviously underlyingly support IS, as they support any absolute islam state.
They want to get out of the middle east the same any of us would if they were there.




But our culture our way of life is against their beliefs,that's what some people cannot understand. For them,it's like entering a new and weird world.
It's like if u go to Saudi Arabia you'll see how they see some things are far different from ours PoWs.
But then it's ok,i suggest the French government to open a festival for integration,and bring a lot of pork and wine.


It is new and weird. They will not change their lifestyle and that is ok; things like pork and wine they will refuse, obviously. Not that bad.
They aren't inherently prone to violence or anything lke that because of religion, there are some assholes among them just as there are among people here.


Yeah..... Nothing to do with them running away like cowards,some men with AKs and jeeps literally obliterated a modern army trained armed,equipped by the Americans.......... Haven't your hear that story of ghost soldiers ?
These people should stay in the safe countries in middle east,and maybe the EU should help those countries financially and give them humanitarian aid.

Those aren't completely safe for them though.



Europe should pressure these countries to open their borders to their "brothers". If i was a Syrian,i would feel ashamed to have them as "brothers". I mean Syria always welcomed the (this time) REAL REFUGEES from Palestine etc. but how they (arabs) backstabbed them is really disgusting.
I mean Syria was always welcoming the refugees from Arab countries with open arms.

I aggree with this, they have been backstabbed. That doesn't mean syrian refugees aren't real refugees. The thing is we can't just make countries like SA change their mind, these are modern midieval countries, the fact that they still exist even though they break basic human rights and life conditions is because of international trade and partnerships, that's why the UN won't interfere and apply too much pressure.


We aren't in every people head's,we don't know what are their motivations,you don't imagine how they hate us,and they'll do everything to attack us.

I'm assuming you're talking about IS now. A regular syrian refugee might not like western culture but they won't "do eveything to attak us"

One of the suicide bomber of Paris passed through Greece

yes and it's literaly the first documtned case of so called refugee actualy turning out to be a terrorisrt; a fear among many , and this is the only incident.
The chances one of my neighbours is a terrorist is bigger than the chance one of these refugees is, with data so far.

and maybe more and more are following,do you imagine ?

I do imagine, but I am aware this is a fear and I don't let fears rule my beleifs and ideology.

Now you can without being worried,carry suicide vests,AKs and blow yourself and shoot everyone ! In Europe !

You could always do this anywhere as long as you plan it right and have enough time support money and weaponry, which is the problem. IS is powerful so they find a way. Posing as a refugee doesn't make this easier, it would make it harder concidering it takes more time to travel that way.

Everything should be done to avoid something similar to happen,it's time to stop opening our doors without knowing who the fck we are "welcoming".

Because of this one (possible, they're not even sure) case?
That's an irrational fear.


i hope one day the people will sentence to death these politicians for treason.

I feel sad that this is the way you feel about politics, wanting the ones that disagree with you dead isn't much better than IS.


A refugee is considered as so if he seeks refuge in the first safe countries. If you move to another country (and you choose it) that is if not thousands kilometers away,you aren't a refugee.


You can't just make up a definition and call it true.
Even if you wouldn't call them refugees, you'd call them migrants escaping from war; it's just word play.
There's more reasons for them migrating to europe than "thYEY WANT MY MONEY".

They should join the ranks of their national army,fighting for their country.
The Syrian army might not be perfect and clean but is far better than all those terrorists that we support..... "we call them moderate". LOL.

Maybe they should, but these are normal people and normal people don't just voluntarily risk their life in some suicide-missionesque army. If a civil war broke out here people wouldn't do this either, syria doesn't have a fighting culture enough for people to do this.
And stil, this is a "should"; maybe they should but they don't and we can't make them, so we need a different solution.

Recently,a Polish politician proposed to create an army with the men coming in Europe.... arming them,financing them..... But no they prefer to drink a coffee with the money of the good German taxpayer.

Muh taxes!
They will eventualy work and contribute to society, and probably make more money too because of a growing young working population.
"they" don't do anything. The world isn't that black and white.



If we want to fight them effectively,we have to tell these countries supporting them to stop ! I target Turkey,Saudi Arabia etc.

I completely aggree! Sadly UN doesn't, for several reasons I undersstand, like international trade/partnership and basicly preventing a giant WW3 to break out. We already know simply telling them isn't enough, they live in their own middle ages at this moment.


If you want to weaken them,you have to strike their ressources.... such as oil refinery,without it,they won't have any money. Stop buying their oil.

One again, completely aggree. But we feed of their oil.

Air campaign will not be successfull,we have to fight them on the ground,and only the Syrian army and it's allies dare to do so.
I think we should give air support to the Syrian army as the Russians are doing and they'll clean the area.

More of a perfect-world scenario, not very realistic. Also I don't see why air campaign won't be succesful, if you ask me, get innocents out and nuke the shit out of isis territory, not like there was much of value there anyway.


Let the Islamic countries deal with that. Let them fight each other and blew themselves up. Saudi Arabia wants to destroy the shiites and Iran ? Let them do so. Why not nuke the middle east. And we would save the planet.


Partialy aggree, but again, this won't solve the problem of the massses of people already migrating/migrated. They are in this case still a victim, we can't just deny them and somehow magicaly transport them back just because they came from the same shithole.


We have to take every measures so they avoid to come here. We should take exemple of Australia. They will continue to try,but in far less numbers.
They have to go back to their countries. You think Australia cares if one is persecuted or not ?
We have to take every decisions to protect our borders. Hungary build fences,they authorized the Police-Army to use the force if needed,and arresting everyone that is damaging the fence. And now ? Hungary is no longer being invaded. If we do the same thing on European scale,they would stop to come,knowing nobody wants them,nobody will take them.
What did we do when persons tried to "cross" the Berlin wall ?


Even if physical walls and armies would stop them coming in, and we could magical transport them away somehow, (all of them), you'd have people that already have a different culture and already mistrust the west for fueling their wars, they would now hate the west more.
This is basicly how you create new IS members.
Í'd like to see you tackle this issue, one of the biggest; you have a group of angry afraid mulisms on the move, and you're suggesting to make a move that will make them unhappier with the west.








Is that because of the WW2 that people in Europe (at least Western) are becoming sissies ?
Where are the real patriots ? Who do not want to see their country invaded,changing into a Pakistan ?

If sissies means compassion then maybe yes.
But the truth is not much has changed since WW2 in our culture and trust,
in fact the difference in culture means we trust these refugees less than the jews fleeing germany in WW2; the percentages of people opposed to them entering the country as refugee back then is very VERY close to how it is now,
so not much has changed. And now in hindsight every country wants to seem like the good guy that wanted to hide away jews in refugee; the truth is they weren't as welcome as you'd think, same with the refugees now.
The core of the problem is that people opposed to them like you are think there's something inherently wrong with them becaus of where they come from.
I think these problems can be faught and won; if they run from radical muslims like IS and are welcomed with open arms in the west they will already be more west-friendly.
And those very few that are not are the ones that we pay the extra attention to in the news, like the articles you and other anti-refugees are posting, those are the small minority.




In the long run,if you allow more and more people who hate you that they are ready to kill you,who do not integrate and want the native people to literally be like them. They literally want to change our countries into the shitholes they came from.
Glad that they were throwed into the sea when they were in Spain...

You are just stereotyping them into one radical muslim whih they are not. They are civilians fleeing to the west, they do not expect the west to change. The reason their countries are shitholes is the radical islam, which they are running away from.



If the Kids are like that,imagine how the parents are ? :wub:

The parents are kind of shity, but it's mostly just culture, their gangs are composed of white kids also, who act the same way. It's just lower class (tokkie) culture, stupid people behaving stupid because they overcompensate for their lack of understanding of the world.


If everybody isn't thanking you for welcoming them,feeding them etc. then there is a big problem.

A lot of them thank, most of them are grateful to be safe and sound inside a western country after having such a dangerous journey.
You don't see and hear them because it's not an interesting story, the modern media displays extremes not averages.

As a european to walk into a refugee camp and ask them all to thank me for being there is smug, selfish, narcicistic; I have had a better life than them, they went to trouble to get here and tehy should thank me because my country didn't close borders and force them out?

[Exocet]

This is an example, you can't base your entire point of view on isolated incidents (well appearently you can)..
I could also think of examples that are supposed to bring forward sympathy to fugetives instead of exmamples that bring out my hatred, examples like these are targeted towards emotions, I see no use in them for deciding something political.

As i said earlier,you can say everything you want such as "One doesn't represent all!","Why putting everyone in the same bag" ?
When people are fed up they will forget that. You can expect the National Front to grow even more,at least this party is the only one that has the balls to say who makes problems etc.
You can say they are facists,racists,anti islam but this party was (in term of votes) the first !
It's time to change. Look in the European parliament,it is the first party to represent France.



They have no interest in going back, not because they want an "easy life".
The fact that they risk their lives, walk through a continent, endure abuse and a shitty time just to get somewhere shows that what they want isn't east.
The fact is the countries in the middle east are either going through their own revolution with either IS or IS-similar uprisings, or are still ruled by dictator under islam law, and countries like SA obviously underlyingly support IS, as they support any absolute islam state.
They want to get out of the middle east the same any of us would if they were there.

Because if you were one of them,you would go back there if you obviously know that in Europe you have a better life ? If i was one of them and in the Netherlands,never in my life i would go back there.




It is new and weird. They will not change their lifestyle and that is ok; things like pork and wine they will refuse, obviously. Not that bad.
They aren't inherently prone to violence or anything lke that because of religion, there are some assholes among them just as there are among people here.

They want to impose us their beliefs,their religion,their way of life. They are asking pork not to be served in our schools ! You come to a country and you expect the host to "accomodate" to your beliefs ?
We also banned Burqa and Niqab,then all over Europe,you had the Jihad funboys wishing to see us Sharia-ised or destroyed.

I think if someones want to settle in France,he has to drink an entire bottle of wine and eat an entire pork. They want to integrate ? no ?



Those aren't completely safe for them though.

In these countries you are sure not to be killed or bombed,what do you expect ? These are safe countries,maybe not as safe as Iceland,but they are.



I aggree with this, they have been backstabbed. That doesn't mean syrian refugees aren't real refugees. The thing is we can't just make countries like SA change their mind, these are modern midieval countries, the fact that they still exist even though they break basic human rights and life conditions is because of international trade and partnerships, that's why the UN won't interfere and apply too much pressure.

Most of them aren't even Syrians,a lot of Iranians,Pakistanis,Bangladeshis,Pakistanis and whatsoever else coming from the failed countries of Asia are benefiting from this whole situation.
If all were Syrian women and children (BTW their number would be very,VERY few,then maybe i'll be happy to help them.)
Only women and children,eldery from Syria need to be given basic needs and refuge. The fat bags from Africa and Middle east can go fck themselves.




yes and it's literaly the first documtned case of so called refugee actualy turning out to be a terrorisrt; a fear among many , and this is the only incident.
The chances one of my neighbours is a terrorist is bigger than the chance one of these refugees is, with data so far.

Nobody knows how many are coming,and the threat is real,maybe a lot of them already entered our borders,and will soon act... You might take it as a joke but i won't !
How should i feel when i know that not so far from my town there are Islamic terrorists with AKs and explosive vests ?



I do imagine, but I am aware this is a fear and I don't let fears rule my beleifs and ideology.

That's your choice,but don't cry when reality will explodes in front of you.


You could always do this anywhere as long as you plan it right and have enough time support money and weaponry, which is the problem. IS is powerful so they find a way. Posing as a refugee doesn't make this easier, it would make it harder concidering it takes more time to travel that way.

That's the only way to smuggle fighters,do you know another solution ? You expect ISIS to air-drop their men from planes ?
And then you can go to the Balkans and buy everything you want..... qand then cross the borders ! Because you have more chance to die being hit by a flying cow than being caught !



Because of this one (possible, they're not even sure) case?
That's an irrational fear.

What's your pont exactly ? Letting everyone entering our countries without checking from where they came from,who they are etc ? .
I've seen extreme person,but you break the record.



I feel sad that this is the way you feel about politics, wanting the ones that disagree with you dead isn't much better than IS.

Merkel said few years ago that Multiculturalism had failed in Germany..... and the witch is bringing this year alone 1.0000.000 of them ! Isn't that treason ?



You can't just make up a definition and call it true.
Even if you wouldn't call them refugees, you'd call them migrants escaping from war; it's just word play.
There's more reasons for them migrating to europe than "thYEY WANT MY MONEY".

Please tell me,i want to know !
Maybe they want free blonde girls,that's why you only see horde of fat bags ! :lol:



Maybe they should, but these are normal people and normal people don't just voluntarily risk their life in some suicide-missionesque army. If a civil war broke out here people wouldn't do this either, syria doesn't have a fighting culture enough for people to do this.
And stil, this is a "should"; maybe they should but they don't and we can't make them, so we need a different solution.

So,instead of fighting for your country,liberty,you would flee like a coward ?


Muh taxes!
They will eventualy work and contribute to society, and probably make more money too because of a growing young working population.
"they" don't do anything. The world isn't that black and white.

You know who benefits from this invasion ? The Germans ! Because they'll get cheap labour. (If we consider that they will work,which we aren't really sure about.)
But what work ? For exemple a French is strugling to find a work and you'll tell me someone coming from a shithole that you never heard about that doesn't speak a single word of French will find a work ? Lolilol.




I completely aggree! Sadly UN doesn't, for several reasons I undersstand, like international trade/partnership and basicly preventing a giant WW3 to break out. We already know simply telling them isn't enough, they live in their own middle ages at this moment.

The Gulf countries are too much influential with their money. Money leads the world. If we were considering principles firstly,then nobody would trade with the Gulf countries.



One again, completely aggree. But we feed of their oil.

Tell Turkey to stop letting entering their country the oil of ISIS,and then.....



More of a perfect-world scenario, not very realistic. Also I don't see why air campaign won't be succesful, if you ask me, get innocents out and nuke the shit out of isis territory, not like there was much of value there anyway.

We need a ground operation (which the Syrians are doing) and we must help them with air support. The Israelis thought they could win the 2006 war in Lebanon by trusting their air power.... they failed miserably. Why are u upset of these "civilians" ? They have two choices. Either you fight the terrorists ! Either you die alongside them. Russians are bringing their strategic bombers into the strikes,and i do wish they would carpet bomb Raqqah,they will do a favor for the planet.




Partialy aggree, but again, this won't solve the problem of the massses of people already migrating/migrated. They are in this case still a victim, we can't just deny them and somehow magicaly transport them back just because they came from the same shithole.

If someone comes to your house,without knowing who he is,you would let him in ? You won't push him back ? That's pretty the same.



Even if physical walls and armies would stop them coming in, and we could magical transport them away somehow, (all of them), you'd have people that already have a different culture and already mistrust the west for fueling their wars, they would now hate the west more.
This is basicly how you create new IS members.
Í'd like to see you tackle this issue, one of the biggest; you have a group of angry afraid mulisms on the move, and you're suggesting to make a move that will make them unhappier with the west.

Hungary built a wall,deployed their army,arrested many fat bags of the hordes,sentenced them to prison or deported them,and now nobody thinks about going to Hungary..... Even the transit countries are being fed up of them,many called their army,even Austria will build a wall.....


If sissies means compassion then maybe yes.
But the truth is not much has changed since WW2 in our culture and trust,
in fact the difference in culture means we trust these refugees less than the jews fleeing germany in WW2; the percentages of people opposed to them entering the country as refugee back then is very VERY close to how it is now,
so not much has changed. And now in hindsight every country wants to seem like the good guy that wanted to hide away jews in refugee; the truth is they weren't as welcome as you'd think, same with the refugees now.
The core of the problem is that people opposed to them like you are think there's something inherently wrong with them becaus of where they come from.
I think these problems can be faught and won; if they run from radical muslims like IS and are welcomed with open arms in the west they will already be more west-friendly.
And those very few that are not are the ones that we pay the extra attention to in the news, like the articles you and other anti-refugees are posting, those are the small minority.

The sissies and libertards are using the "compassion","emotional" card to literally say "Let everyone in,fuck the borders,by your fault you drowned babies into the sea. And it works pretty well on you. Are you ready to open your doors in the name of "humanity" ? Seeing your country becoming a garbage and why not the first rape capital of Europe ? (Sweden detains the record)


You are just stereotyping them into one radical muslim whih they are not. They are civilians fleeing to the west, they do not expect the west to change. The reason their countries are shitholes is the radical islam, which they are running away from.

I've seen a comment on youtube,it was something like "A radical muslim will behead you!". "A moderate muslim will ask the radical to behead you."
These people are ready to lynch or even kill you for some drawings.... think about it. :confused:



The parents are kind of shity, but it's mostly just culture, their gangs are composed of white kids also, who act the same way. It's just lower class (tokkie) culture, stupid people behaving stupid because they overcompensate for their lack of understanding of the world.

Yeah. Tomas Al-Dutchi (or Al-Nederlandi) "We will kill all infidels who do not trust in Jesus,we will convert them or kill them,we will impose a christian state in the Netherlands". Glory to Jesus !



A lot of them thank, most of them are grateful to be safe and sound inside a western country after having such a dangerous journey.
You don't see and hear them because it's not an interesting story, the modern media displays extremes not averages.


As a european to walk into a refugee camp and ask them all to thank me for being there is smug, selfish, narcicistic; I have had a better life than them, they went to trouble to get here and tehy should thank me because my country didn't close borders and force them out?

It seems that i don't live in your Lalaland,maybe the situation is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar different in the Netherlands.

[thatcountrykid]

Miserabilia

This morning,the French police conducted a raid in a suburb not so far from Paris,one woman fired with Kalachnikovs and detonated a suicide vest. (No cops killed luckily.)
Another one has been killed by a sniper of the swat team. Here's your future if you keep tolerating them. You can say "one doesnt represent all",but when people are fed up they will give a sh*t about if they represent all or not.

A police k9 was killed

[phuckphace]

A police k9 was killed

RIP doge :(

[thatcountrykid]

RIP doge :(

I consider that dog a hero so joke if you'd like but that dog made a sacrifice. A bigger one than you have

[phuckphace]

I consider that dog a hero so joke if you'd like but that dog made a sacrifice. A bigger one than you have

I wasn't joking actually, I like doges

[Exocet]

A police k9 was killed

Diesel. RIP. This dog was more human and courageous than all those rats put together.

[Judean Zealot]

I wasn't joking actually, I like doges

http://i.imgur.com/OR3fZer.jpg

[Miserabilia]

As i said earlier,you can say everything you want such as "One doesn't represent all!","Why putting everyone in the same bag" ?
When people are fed up they will forget that. You can expect the National Front to grow even more,at least this party is the only one that has the balls to say who makes problems etc.
You can say they are facists,racists,anti islam but this party was (in term of votes) the first !
It's time to change. Look in the European parliament,it is the first party to represent France.



That's their own fault for forgetting that. They may be fed up, that's beacuse they are looking pessimisticly, look for something negative and you will find it, look for someting and you will find something positive.
You've basicly admitted the reasoning is not logical and emotional, why would you want to base your political views irationaly I do not understand.




Because if you were one of them,you would go back there if you obviously know that in Europe you have a better life ? If i was one of them and in the Netherlands,never in my life i would go back there.


Exactly my point. So you understand their resoning.


They want to impose us their beliefs,their religion,their way of life. They are asking pork not to be served in our schools ! You come to a country and you expect the host to "accomodate" to your beliefs ?


There is no "they".
I bet you read this in one article about one case of one person.
When there are muslims amongst them that want our culture to accomdate to theirs, we say fuck it and don't; they're still a minority, and even the too-progressive/too-liberal people are too small a group to actualy make that happen.




I think if someones want to settle in France,he has to drink an entire bottle of wine and eat an entire pork. They want to integrate ? no ?

This is retarded, atleast give a good example of french culture. There are plenty of straight edge and vegan french nationals, would you want them to take this test?



In these countries you are sure not to be killed or bombed,what do you expect ? These are safe countries,maybe not as safe as Iceland,but they are.


Yes and Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Bahrain do not accept refugees, so going ther isn't exactly an option.
Their options are limited. There simply isn't a nearby "safe" country that doesn't either support is or has own civil war going on.

Most of them aren't even Syrians,a lot of Iranians,Pakistanis,Bangladeshis,Pakistanis and whatsoever else coming from the failed countries of Asia are benefiting from this whole situation.

They have reasons for leaving besides wanting to take your precious tax dollars.

If all were Syrian women and children (BTW their number would be very,VERY few,then maybe i'll be happy to help them.)
Only women and children,eldery from Syria need to be given basic needs and refuge. The fat bags from Africa and Middle east can go fck themselves.


Because men must fight!!111 amirite!?!



Nobody knows how many are coming,and the threat is real,maybe a lot of them already entered our borders,and will soon act...

Will soon act? Will they be movie stars? What movies will they be in

How should i feel when i know that not so far from my town there are Islamic terrorists with AKs and explosive vests ?


Pretty bad if they were really there and there is a chance there is, though these people aren't refugees and as I've already explained countless times they have no advantage in posing as ones, they fly into the country or live there as easily as possible.


That's the only way to smuggle fighters,do you know another solution ?

Yes, fighters are already present there, as was the case in france and pretty much all other cases so far.
What you are saying here is simply not true, an organision as IS can easily create a network extensive to get fighers there without having them travel amongst refugees over crappy boats and on foot.
For example , how do you think they got their supplies and weapons etc? THat's a criminal network, that's not carried around by refugees.


What's your pont exactly ? Letting everyone entering our countries without checking from where they came from,who they are etc ? .
I've seen extreme person,but you break the record.

"what?!?!?! are you saying *something I did not say*?!!?! that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard!"
I'm sorry at what part did I say "don't check them let them in no matter where they come from and don't bother to check where and who they are".
I never said or even implied this.
I do support backtracking and checking who they are and that is being done the moment they settle in a country.

Merkel said few years ago that Multiculturalism had failed in Germany..... and the witch is bringing this year alone 1.0000.000 of them ! Isn't that treason ?


Alll I get from this (if that's what she said in if she somehow is personaly responsible for a nation-government wide decision) is that she would be a hypocrite.
Don't see how it's treason, and even so don't see why she should be killed.
The extreme thinking of "dangers of our precious state / that oppose with the greater good of the states should be killed! ", do you not hear what that sounds like?


So,instead of fighting for your country,liberty,you would flee like a coward ?

yes I'm not keen on dying.
Everyone wants to be a hero in theory but if I"m realistic, I'd flee if the option is there. Why would I want to make my own army and fight when there's literaly a whole world of united nations with as much military force as they can muster to fight?


You know who benefits from this invasion ? The Germans ! Because they'll get cheap labour. (If we consider that they will work,which we aren't really sure about.)
But what work ? For exemple a French is strugling to find a work and you'll tell me someone coming from a shithole that you never heard about that doesn't speak a single word of French will find a work ? Lolilol.

New people creates new work, this is what history shows. New young working people stimulate the economy and pretty much create money.
Yes they might work cheap, but the majority of these people is actualy pretty well educated, they can actualy get decent jobs.
There isn't a job shortage, the people complaining of their jobs being taken are the one's that appearently are so bad at working that people who indeed hardly even speak the langaueg can replace them.



The Gulf countries are too much influential with their money. Money leads the world. If we were considering principles firstly,then nobody would trade with the Gulf countries.


Very true.



We need a ground operation (which the Syrians are doing) and we must help them with air support. The Israelis thought they could win the 2006 war in Lebanon by trusting their air power.... they failed miserably. Why are u upset of these "civilians" ? They have two choices. Either you fight the terrorists ! Either you die alongside them. Russians are bringing their strategic bombers into the strikes,and i do wish they would carpet bomb Raqqah,they will do a favor for the planet.

The scenario of non-is syrians fighting IS as some sort of civilian army is just a dream, it's not happening and there's no way to make it happening. This war has been goign on for long now, people either stay and die in attacks, join IS themselves or flee.


If someone comes to your house,without knowing who he is,you would let him in ? You won't push him back ? That's pretty the same.


No it's not the same, and I already said I wouldn't let a stranger in my house, I'd let them have the house next to me though just so I can have pesronal space.
Even so this is war, in war there are exceptions, some people have too much internet hatred and mistrust to let anyone in, some people don't.
You can compare it to jewish refugees in WW2


Hungary built a wall,deployed their army,arrested many fat bags of the hordes,sentenced them to prison or deported them,and now nobody thinks about going to Hungary..... Even the transit countries are being fed up of them,many called their army,even Austria will build a wall.....


So? Now they are outside a wall, that doesn't make them dissapear. It's not a solution, it's procrastinating.


The sissies and libertards are using the "compassion","emotional" card to literally say "Let everyone in,fuck the borders,by your fault you drowned babies into the sea. And it works pretty well on you. Are you ready to open your doors in the name of "humanity" ? Seeing your country becoming a garbage and why not the first rape capital of Europe ? (Sweden detains the record)


"all people with different opinions than me think the same!!!"
Hate to break it to you but being left doesn't mean you are a liberal extremist. My country isn't garbage , sweden isn't garbage.
The rape thing is more of a myth based on truth, namely that immigrants (note; immigrants, can be anyone from any place from any time, not at all related to the refugee issue, your problem here is disdain for all immigrants) are more likely to commit most types of crime. This is a whole different issue but I'd be glad to talk about it some other time.


I've seen a comment on youtube,it was something like "A radical muslim will behead you!". "A moderate muslim will ask the radical to behead you."

What a load of bullshit. The moderate muslims fleeing are fleeing because most of IS's victims are moderate muslims who refuse to join IS, they are beheaded and murderded.
Remember kids, if you read it on youtube it must be true.


These people are ready to lynch or even kill you for some drawings.... think about it. :confused:

Some extremists are, has nothing to do with the bulk of muslim refugees.


Yeah. Tomas Al-Dutchi (or Al-Nederlandi) "We will kill all infidels who do not trust in Jesus,we will convert them or kill them,we will impose a christian state in the Netherlands". Glory to Jesus !

Do you not see that geographic isn't everything? There's space and there's time, history is as important as the current state of the world.
The middle east is pretty mcuh going through their middle ages, looking at laws and culture. IS and other extremist islamic states making their way through the world are their version of the crusades.
Christianity has developed alongside our culture to be more progressive and less strict.


It seems that i don't live in your Lalaland,maybe the situation is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar different in the Netherlands.
Appearently it is. maybe if you take off your negativity glasses the world seems a lot less shittier.

[Exocet]

....

Ok,I think i'll give up,i'm fed up also.
You are a libertard or these kind of "peace and love,fuck borders we are all the same" that wants to welcome all the garbage and failed persons of the world that's your choice I'm pretty sure,you'll come back when you'll probably get backstabbed....... or when someone will blow himself up in front of you.
I'm against it,so why arguing ? It will change nothing.

"Tot zie".......

Pardon !

.السلام عليكم

[sqishy]

Ok,I think i'll give up,i'm fed up also.
You are a libertard or these kind of "peace and love,fuck borders we are all the same" that wants to welcome all the garbage and failed persons of the world that's your choice I'm pretty sure,you'll come back when you'll probably get backstabbed....... or when someone will blow himself up in front of you.
I'm against it,so why arguing ? It will change nothing.

[QUOTE=Exocet;3261125]You are a libertard [...]

Is derogatory labelling of your opponent in the argument necessary ?

[...] all the garbage and failed persons of the world [...]

I'll take the garbage to also be derogatory (if you think it isn't then explain why), and 'failed persons' to be giving an objective negative label to people as a whole. Are failed persons not persons? Let me inquire as to what you mean by 'failed'. 'Failed' in respects to what you consider success? If so, in what way?

I'm against it,so why arguing ? It will change nothing.

For me, I go into arguments to outline my perspective/ideas, and to see if others involved can understand where I am coming from. I don't go into arguments/etc to change a situation or change people's minds, I go into one to change sizes or angles of perspectives between people. Yes, perspectives can change people's views, but it is them who do that, not me forcing it. I offer the choice for them, just like others do for me.
(Just saying my views on that while I was replying.)

[Exocet]

[QUOTE=Exocet;3261125]Ok,I think i'll give up,i'm fed up also.
You are a libertard or these kind of "peace and love,fuck borders we are all the same" that wants to welcome all the garbage and failed persons of the world that's your choice I'm pretty sure,you'll come back when you'll probably get backstabbed....... or when someone will blow himself up in front of you.
I'm against it,so why arguing ? It will change nothing.



Is derogatory labelling of your opponent in the argument necessary ?



I'll take the garbage to also be derogatory (if you think it isn't then explain why), and 'failed persons' to be giving an objective negative label to people as a whole. Are failed persons not persons? Let me inquire as to what you mean by 'failed'. 'Failed' in respects to what you consider success? If so, in what way?



For me, I go into arguments to outline my perspective/ideas, and to see if others involved can understand where I am coming from. I don't go into arguments/etc to change a situation or change people's minds, I go into one to change sizes or angles of perspectives between people. Yes, perspectives can change people's views, but it is them who do that, not me forcing it. I offer the choice for them, just like others do for me.
(Just saying my views on that while I was replying.)

I have no respect for people wanting Europe to commit a collective suicide by taking in millions of economic migrants and fanatics,and terrorists.
Luckily,more people are opening their eyes about these """"""""""""""""""refugees""""""""""""""".
If you guys love them so much,feel free to take some in your houses.

[sqishy]

I have no respect for people wanting Europe to commit a collective suicide by taking in millions of economic migrants and fanatics,and terrorists.
Permanently noted.

""""""""""""""""""refugees""""""""""""""".
You have no experience as a refugee of 'economic migrant/fanatic/terrorist', do you? Have you experiences having your eardums blown in from explosions, or starving to emaciation due to lack of food, your house being destroyed, and being called a terrorist for it?

Do you really think that hundreds of thousands of people are going to walk, with blisters and hypothermia, because they want to just have a taste of a different economy for fun? Perhaps if they are, do they deserve to be beaten up to go to hospital by some police forces even?

If we were in Game of Thrones, you would be Cersei. Perhaps then the walk of shame would be enlightening.

The hatred is real, and the wars will never end if it keeps being a reality. Peace cannot exist if some people call others scum and garbage. To think otherwise, is to believe in a dystopic world, thinking of it as utopic.

If you guys love them so much,feel free to take some in your houses.
People are.

[Exocet]

Permanently noted.


Feel free to do it,or even put this message in your signature ! Lol.

[COLOR="Yellow"]You have no experience as a refugee of 'economic migrant/fanatic/terrorist', do you? Have you experiences having your eardums blown in from explosions, or starving to emaciation due to lack of food, your house being destroyed, and being called a terrorist for it?

Sorry,but when you see that the majority of them are men (Who most of them aren't even Syrians),i don't want our doors to remain open,nobody told them to come,we don't want them.
If these were real refugees,they would stay in the first safe country they find,and there are safe countries near Syria,and the refugees who stay in these countries are given the minimum to live,what do they expect more ? They want to be treated like royalty or what ?



The hatred is real, and the wars will never end if it keeps being a reality. Peace cannot exist if some people call others scum and garbage.


You do love them,i don't. So ?

[sqishy]

Feel free to do it,or even put this message in your signature ! Lol.

No reason to. I've permanently noted many things, and have reconsidered it over and over only to keep arriving at the same thing. I'm not going to put a list in my signature. It is not relevant.


Sorry,but when you see that the majority of them are men (Who most of them aren't even Syrians),i don't want our doors to remain open,nobody told them to come,we don't want them.


Why does it matter that there is a gender inequality? If you don't want them to live in your homes, then put them where spare homes exist, at the least.


If these were real refugees,they would stay in the first safe country they find,and there are safe countries near Syria,and the refugees who stay in these countries are given the minimum to live,what do they expect more ?
They want to be treated like royalty or what ?

The reason they are coming to Europe, is because there is no safe country they have found over there. The whole region is in a mess.

The 'minimum to live' sounds like what you are calling basic physiological needs, which scrape past the requirements to not die. Not to live, to not die.

Please explain how royalty is anything otherwise than avoiding dying. By that definition, we are all kings and queens with even very small terraced houses (by not being homeless), and for asking for presents for christmas, we are ungrateful bigoted fucks. What a way to treat mental health.

Yes, we are priviliged with having a house, in a sense. But, unlike what I am getting from you, I don't want to be priviliged. No, that does not mean I live a homeless life; that means that I want nobody to live a homeless life.

If we think it is fine that people are fine by themselves for not dying, then there is a serious issue with us.



You do love them,i don't. So ?

I don't love then. I reserve love for romantic/sexual attraction, or really liking someone (i.e. love in a trivial sense).
It is not that I love them and you don't, it is that you hate them and I don't.

[Exocet]

No reason to. I've permanently noted many things, and have reconsidered it over and over only to keep arriving at the same thing. I'm not going to put a list in my signature. It is not relevant.

Ok,then feel free to note it ! Haha.


Why does it matter that there is a gender inequality? If you don't want them to live in your homes, then put them where spare homes exist, at the least.

Refugees used to be Women and Children,and in an other way,old persons.

Poor women and children.

http://shoebat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/germany-spending-6-billion-muslim-migrants-isis-terrorists.jpg



The reason they are coming to Europe, is because there is no safe country they have found over there. The whole region is in a mess.

Turkey,Jordan,Lebanon (in some ways),Saudi Arabia ? Qatar ? UAE ? Kuwait ? Oman ? Bahrain ? You'll tell me these are shitholes where there is a murder every second ?

The 'minimum to live' sounds like what you are calling basic physiological needs, which scrape past the requirements to not die. Not to live, to not die.

They should be happy to be in a safe refugee camp,given water,food and beds without paying €1.


Please explain how royalty is anything otherwise than avoiding dying. By that definition, we are all kings and queens with even very small terraced houses (by not being homeless), and for asking for presents for christmas, we are ungrateful bigoted fucks. What a way to treat mental health.

Yes, we are priviliged with having a house, in a sense. But, unlike what I am getting from you, I don't want to be priviliged. No, that does not mean I live a homeless life; that means that I want nobody to live a homeless life.

If we think it is fine that people are fine by themselves for not dying, then there is a serious issue with us.


When you are a so called "refugee",don't expect to be put in a palace with slaves that would do everything you require ! It reminds me of that woman that says the bathrooms are disgusting,it's very gross,then clean up the mess you created,it isn't us that should do everything for you ! You should look at youtube,you would think they act as disappointed tourists. "Internet is slow!!!!!","I want cigarettes!!!!!","I will sue Germany for not giving benefits too early"""!

The people on our streets would be so glad to be given what they receive !



[COLOR="Yellow"]I don't love then. I reserve love for romantic/sexual attraction, or really liking someone (i.e. love in a trivial sense).
It is not that I love them and you don't, it is that you hate them and I don't.

The right term is "fed up",so yes it could lead to hate them.

[Jinglebottom]

Exocet has a point here. Please, take it from someone who's SUPPOSED to feel pity for his fellow Arabs. The majority, if not all, of Syrian and Palestinian refugees who have "fled" their messed up countries are reckless men who give no fucks about anyone else, not even their families. Gone are the days where you would see women and children on the streets, now it's just guys whistling at some girls passing by. Maybe they could fight for their land (and gtfo out of here) instead of spending the remainder of their days trying to steal $1 from a Lebanese (and soon it's going to be Europeans and Americans).

[sqishy]

Refugees used to be Women and Children,and in an other way,old persons.

Perhaps; if they were or not, it does not matter. Demographics of refugees have no necessity to be a certain way.


image (http://shoebat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/germany-spending-6-billion-muslim-migrants-isis-terrorists.jpg)


Not sure what you are getting at with this picture.


Turkey,Jordan,Lebanon (in some ways),Saudi Arabia ? Qatar ? UAE ? Kuwait ? Oman ? Bahrain ? You'll tell me these are shitholes where there is a murder every second ?



Well, nowhere in the middle east is there a murder every second (why the use of sudden extreme all-or-nothing here?). I never said that anywhere.

It's not about the quantity of death, it is about the fear of it. Look at what happened in Paris. I need not talk about that, because I know you are to others.
There is more unnatural death in the middle east by a high margin than here, with respects to war. With regards to destination countries, depending on your religion you may be shunned or killed. An example would be Saudi Arabia.

Also, refugees do go to the certain counties you mention. They are not all going to Europe, it is a very broad geopolitical region they are going to overall. For those who are not going to safe countries relative to ours, they either do not know about how safe the country is but just that it is safer, maybe even at least by perception or testimony.


They should be happy to be in a safe refugee camp,given water,food and beds without paying €1.

The vast majority are in the short term, because they have escaped the situation of their home, and the situation of the journey. Nobody, however, would want to live in the 'A+E' all their life.


When you are a so called "refugee"[...]

Here you are already taking the view of a conclusion, before you go to arguing for it. Perhaps before arriving at the """"""refugees"""""" part, start from a neutral position, and then start your argument.


[...] don't expect to be put in a palace with slaves that would do everything you require !

...What?

It reminds me of that woman that says the bathrooms are disgusting,it's very gross,then clean up the mess you created,it isn't us that should do everything for you ! You should look at youtube,you would think they act as disappointed tourists. "Internet is slow!!!!!","I want cigarettes!!!!!","I will sue Germany for not giving benefits too early"""!


For those people in the population of refugees who say this and similar things, they are completely unjustified, yes. I deny existence of their respect for us as caring for me (in at least some aspects), and then have questions on whether they may be refugees. Not that I conclude they are not refugees but instead greedy people who took the ride with the others (a wrong jump in itself), but that I just question it. They should have respect for those who offer help, and the vast majority do.
Media depictions of the exceptions to the rule regarding the refugees, like this, can easily lead to confirmation biases. One should not assume all the refugees are like the extreme minority talked about (just as nobody should assume 100% of the refugees are as they say they are). If we had the media reporting on all the refugees' lives as they entered their destination country, well beyond 99% would be respectful and thankful.


The people on our streets would be so glad to be given what they receive !


Of course (if you mean what they receive is appropriate help, not insults etc).


The right term is "fed up",so yes it could lead to hate them.

I question if you hate them because you are fed up, or that you hate them first and have a prejudice. Either way, the only way you can be 'fed up' is indirectly, unless you have experienced bad things due to these refugees as a whole.
Taking your perspective anyhow, I see, yes.