Paris attacks: Shootings kill 18, hostage-taking at Bataclan arts centre

[Vlerchan]

At least 18 people have been killed in several shootings in the French capital, Paris, as well as explosions near the Stade de France.

French media say at least 15 people have been killed near the Bataclan arts centre. A hostage taking is under way, with reports of up to 60 held.

Reports suggest some spectators are leaving the hall, with police raiding the venue.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203

Live updates here. (http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-34815972)

Emphasis on several shootings. So it's organised. There's reports of indications it could be Islamists. That is, one journalist (https://twitter.com/edesplanques) said his friend was at Bataclan concern and heard mentions of Syria during the attack, so take it with a pinch of salt.

French police have also raised the death toll to 26.

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11:01 (GMT) Edit: Reported use of Kalashnikovs as per BBC correspondent on Twitter.

Hollande just declared a state of emergency and closed it's borders.

Death toll has also jumped to at least 30 as per reuters.

11:47 (GMT) Edit: Reports of another explosion at the Stade de France. Possible suicide attack.

French armed forces deployed on the streets of Paris.

Reports of an arrest. Reports that arrestee has ISIL connections as per CNN.

12:00 (GMT) Edit: Death toll has also risen to at least 49.

Operation at Bataclan concluded. Two attackers dead. No report as to the hostages.

12:09 (GMT) Edit: Reports of hostages being attacked with explosives. Death toll could rise a significant amount.

12:35: Death toll, as per Reuters, stands at about 140: 100 from the concert hall and 40 from the other attacks.

[dxcxdzv]

All the city is like in Hell. I heard cops sirens for a hour and the president is in a crisis meeting next to my home.
My family and friends called me and told me not to leave my apartment.

[sqishy]

You got to this before I was going to - there was some news report that there was a bomb threat in the Stadium earlier on in the day; soon hopefully we'll get more info on all this.

[jessie3]

Tragic news, but y'all have been through this before, y'all can make it out of hell.

#PrayForParis

[StoppingTom]

Police have assaulted the concert hall, and 2 shooters are dead and hostages are being evacuated.

[Exocet]

I won't even say something,i'll be labelled as racist and neo nazi.
.

[StoppingTom]

Around 100 dead according to police.

[Vlerchan]

Around 100 dead according to police.
It Bataclan alone, is the report. That would indicate that most of the hostages were lost in the raid.

[StoppingTom]

It Bataclan alone, is the report. That would indicate that most of the hostages were lost in the raid.

Yeah, I'm posting as I get this stuff from the AFP.

This is pretty awful.

[Sailor Mars]

It is extremely tragic what happened in Paris tonight :/ Completely unnecessary loss of life... I had to call my uncles up and make sure their okay and told them to stay safe...

Its just fucking stupid

[sqishy]

It Bataclan alone, is the report. That would indicate that most of the hostages were lost in the raid.

The death toll is above 100 I hear now, the raid could have been a shootout.

[Vlerchan]

Unconfirmed reports of a fire at the Calais migrant camp. Christ.

[sqishy]

Unconfirmed reports of a fire at the Calais migrant camp. Christ.

I've seen the picture of it, I really hope that is is a hoax.

[Sailor Mars]

Over 100 people dead JUST in the Bataclan concert hall... Fucks sake...

[Jinglebottom]

I see the islamists are on a roll.

[sqishy]

I see the islamists are on a roll.


'Islamic' EXTREMISTS.

[Jinglebottom]

'Islamic' EXTREMISTS.
Same thing. Nothing but a bunch of murderous psychos. I would know. (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/13/us-syria-crisis-hezbollah-blast-idUSKCN0T121P20151113)

My heart goes out to all the ones affected. I hope my uncle and his family are okay.

[Sailor Mars]

Same thing. Nothing but a bunch of murderous psychos. I would know. (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/13/us-syria-crisis-hezbollah-blast-idUSKCN0T121P20151113)

My heart goes out to all the ones affected. I hope my uncle and his family are okay.

Not all who follow Islam are killers.

[Jinglebottom]

Not all who follow Islam are killers.
Exactly. Islamist =/= Muslim. The majority of people I know are Muslim and they're awesome.

[sqishy]

Same thing. Nothing but a bunch of murderous psychos. I would know. (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/13/us-syria-crisis-hezbollah-blast-idUSKCN0T121P20151113)

My heart goes out to all the ones affected. I hope my uncle and his family are okay.

I heard about the attacks there, I wish they reported it, like the one in Baghdad too.


This link for the Paris attacks should help : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks

The death toll is up to 150+ people. Most of that number is from the events in the concert hall [information in the link], which is about 120.

[StoppingTom]

5 gunmen have been neutralized.

[sqishy]

5 gunmen have been neutralized.

The concert hall situation was controlled by police 2 hours ago.

[StoppingTom]

The concert hall situation was controlled by police 2 hours ago.

From what I understand (via AFP), two gunmen were taken down at the concert hall, 3 more after the initial raid had concluded.

[phuckphace]

ugh.

RIP everybody who died except the shooters.

[sqishy]

From what I understand (via AFP), two gunmen were taken down at the concert hall, 3 more after the initial raid had concluded.

Hopefully what happened.

[Microcosm]

This is pretty crazy. My friend texted me earlier and was like "so what's going on in Paris?" I googled it and was shocked to see the death toll.

Horrible stuff fr. And Reise I hope you don't have any relatives or people living near you that were hurt or anything.

[phuckphace]

yeah don't die on us Reise and Exocet :(

[HUSTLEMAN]

It will be interesting how France takes this event moving forward.

[Bontigo Papi .]

My feeds were blowing up this morning , its really terrible what happened .

#PrayForParis

[Uniquemind]

I'm telling my parents to invest in military equipment companies.

The result of this is clear...we're enter in a "forever war". It will have no end.

[PinkFloyd]

The United States stands with you, france.
The World Trade Center's antenna lit up blue, red, and white.
http://i.imgur.com/KKmpyoz.jpg

Empire Stare Building
http://i.imgur.com/OhCwQAp.jpg

Hotel in Dallas, Texas
http://i.imgur.com/IyiOR6R.jpg

Stadium before a Washington Capitals
http://i.imgur.com/juGjPQN.jpg




Stay strong, France.
http://www.ac-grenoble.fr/lycee/marlioz.aix/Guppy/img/LANA_10.jpg

[Uniquemind]

Does anybody else know someone affected by this tragedy?

[Sugaree]

Remember. Religion of Peace.

[Uniquemind]

Remember. Religion of Peace.

All extremism is bad is originates from "fits of passion".

The sense that they or a proxy feel offended, and can therefore be conduits of some kind of retribution...organized religion is weird and is a cancer no matter what it is.

[Stronk Serb]

20 minutes into multicilturalism and chill and this happens. Innocents died for the crimes of world leaders who will never feel threatened. French, American and British leaderships caused this crap, yet they don't feel a grain of guilt or feel endangered because they pumped up their security.

[Uniquemind]

Reise any updates? Everyone you know okay?

[Exocet]

yeah don't die on us Reise and Exocet :(

Of course not.
My father (instead of taking his weekend break) has been called to Paris.....
He has been told to wear his body armor and helmet......... Paris at the moment is like Baghdad...... How the fck can someone wear an exlosive vest?!

[Uniquemind]

Of course not.
My father (instead of taking his weekend break) has been called to Paris.....
He has been told to wear his body armor and helmet......... Paris at the moment is like Baghdad...... How the fck can someone wear an exlosive vest?!

Well what's happened has happened.

Politically though, do you think French citizens will push for their own version of the 2nd amendment after this?

Talking to a lot of my friends in the USA, they almost sound vindicated and ready to play vigilante if that situation happened here, god forbid.

[dxcxdzv]

Thanks guys Microcosm Paraxiom phuckphace Uniquemind
That was pretty fucked up, apparently we are now in war or something like that. God now we are going to have fascists in 2017. What a beautiful word.
And hopefully no relatives hurt, but one of the shootings happened in a friend's street.

French, American and British leaderships caused this crap
That's exactly what one of the terrorists said.

[Jinglebottom]

Oh gosh that's horrifying. I hope no one is hurt. There are like 5 #PrayFor tags on Twitter... just shows how completely fucked up this world is.

[Vlerchan]

IS claimed responsibility. In its statement it also confirmed that there was 8 attackers.

I'm also reading reports that Calais fire formed from an accident. So that's good I guess.

[JavierDolan]

It's actually insane what's happening. This finally shows that terrorism isn't just about race or creed, it's about evil.

[sqishy]

Well no surprise that ISIL has clamed responsibility - whether they actually have or not should not be determined by what they claim, because they could just take the opportunity as it comes, like they have with the still-debated plane crash in Sinai. It's highly likely they are involved. This is complex as it always was, and I have my (probably) outlying views on terrorism, etc.

Death toll at least 128 so far, and 180+ injured, 99 critically so.

[Jinglebottom]

Someone needs to end ISIS already before they wreak more havoc all around the world.

[Exocet]

I'm also reading reports that Calais fire formed from an accident. So that's good I guess.

I hope every cm² of their camp burn,they have nothing to do in Europe.
These kind of attacks make the far right growing even bigger. If Marine le Pen isn't elected in 2017,we can say goodbye to our country.

[sqishy]

I hope every cm² of their camp burn,they have nothing to do in Europe.
These kind of attacks make the far right growing even bigger. If Marine le Pen isn't elected in 2017,we can say goodbye to our country.

Your first comment makes it extrememly hard for me not to think you are far right.

[Exocet]

Your first comment makes it extrememly hard for me not to think you are far right.

Is there a problem ?

[SethfromMI]

All the city is like in Hell. I heard cops sirens for a hour and the president is in a crisis meeting next to my home.
My family and friends called me and told me not to leave my apartment.

I hope you are/continue to stay safe

terrible what has happened, thoughts and prayers go out to the people of France

[sqishy]

Is there a problem ?

Evidently.
Setting fire to a settlement never does favours.

Also my fault for going offtopic. Response over.

[Vlerchan]

Someone needs to end ISIS already before they wreak more havoc all around the world.
The problem is that foreign actors haven't agreed on what the ultimate outcome should be. You have a situation where foreign actors are targeting each other's proxies as the best means of preserving the statues-quo. However there is ground being made: despite infighting the Kurds still push in Northern Iraq and the ISF are descending on Ramadi. It's less optimistic in Syria where the FSA are going to need to reposition themselves towards Homs if the offensive in Aleppo is to be maintained.

I'm pessimistic regardless though. ISIL losing their conventional fighting abilities might lead to more unconventional attacks: focus on Western assets and inspire a climate of repression. There could be no better recruitment drive than the further westernisation of the conflict.

[Miserabilia]

http://oi43.tinypic.com/jtmd1s.jpg

Seriously though, this is some serious shit.
Immeditiatly all of my super right wing donald trump- geert wilders supporting friends are acting like this is the sign from god they've been waiting for:
"Close the borders!"
" No more refugees, they might be terrorists!"

[Stronk Serb]

Thanks guys Microcosm Paraxiom phuckphace Uniquemind
That was pretty fucked up, apparently we are now in war or something like that. God now we are going to have fascists in 2017. What a beautiful word.
And hopefully no relatives hurt, but one of the shootings happened in a friend's street.


That's exactly what one of the terrorists said.


Well, he is a fucking cunt for shooting civilians. Everyone can do that.

[phuckphace]

Seriously though, this is some serious shit.
Immeditiatly all of my super right wing donald trump- geert wilders supporting friends are acting like this is the sign from god they've been waiting for:
"Close the borders!"
" No more refugees, they might be terrorists!"

which, as it turns out, they were (heil Trump)

[Exocet]

That was pretty fucked up, apparently we are now in war or something like that.

Nan sairyeuzeuxmant tu croyent ?
We are at war since the begining,and only fools would think otherwise.

God now we are going to have fascists in 2017. What a beautiful word.


What do you mean by "facists" ? This party is the only one that has the BALLS to cite the real problems that we are facing. (And who are making these problems.) And of course,the patriots are labelled as "fachos","racistes" and the list is long....
I am happy that more and more people open their eyes and choose the right way. Enough of the "UMPS"..... ooopss.... "LRPS" (other name,but same sh*t),we need something new,we gave a chance to them,why shouldn't we give a chance to the FN ?

[phuckphace]

waiting for Vlerchan to confirm the FN's (unfortunate) status of crypto-neoliberals

[Living For Love]

The problem is that foreign actors haven't agreed on what the ultimate outcome should be. You have a situation where foreign actors are targeting each other's proxies as the best means of preserving the statues-quo. However there is ground being made: despite infighting the Kurds still push in Northern Iraq and the ISF are descending on Ramadi. It's less optimistic in Syria where the FSA are going to need to reposition themselves towards Homs if the offensive in Aleppo is to be maintained.

I'm pessimistic regardless though. ISIL losing their conventional fighting abilities might lead to more unconventional attacks: focus on Western assets and inspire a climate of repression. There could be no better recruitment drive than the further westernisation of the conflict.
What do you propose, then? Besides sitting and watch, what do you honestly think the Western leaders should do?

[sqishy]

What do you propose, then? Besides sitting and watch, what do you honestly think the Western leaders should do?

Perhaps fewer bombings/drones/etc in the middle east which kill off serious numbers of people after time. What is the phrase used? Innocent civilians.
The definiton of terrorism can be flexed the other direction at the same time. The horror is on both ends.

[Sir Suomi]

Terrible. I was watching it last night with a couple of friends. I called up a friend of mine who is currently hosting a French foreign exchange student, and the French girl was in tears apparently.

I don't even know where or how to put the blame. I'm not blaming the refugees necessarily, but I think this is clear evidence that allowing thousand of undocumented immigrants from an unstable region brings up the possibility of shit like this happening. God damn, I wish we could kill the whole lot of those camel-fuckers down there. But who wants another war in Iraq...

[Just JT]

I was watching all this on the news and stuff so we yesterday at about 5 pm, and can't believe it has happened
I am really sorry for everyone who's been affected by this tragedy, it's clearly senseless, and horrific.
The world stand beside you, please know that, not much we can do here but be here for you, and keep you in out thoughts and prayers if you prey....

[dxcxdzv]

Nan sairyeuzeuxmant tu croyent ?
We are at war since the begining,and only fools would think otherwise.
"Officially" I mean, according to Mista da President. You potato.

What do you mean by "facists" ? This party is the only one that has the BALLS to cite the real problems that we are facing. (And who are making these problems.) And of course,the patriots are labelled as "fachos","racistes" and the list is long....
I am happy that more and more people open their eyes and choose the right way. Enough of the "UMPS"..... ooopss.... "LRPS" (other name,but same sh*t),we need something new,we gave a chance to them,why shouldn't we give a chance to the FN ?
Well, give a chance to who you want. I will not vote.
But yeah when an ideology is based on hate it is some f*cking fascism (amalgalm, maybe, let's ask Lord Vlerchan). Have you seen in the streets of la région parisienne those posters "Choisissez votre banlieue"?.

[Jinglebottom]

I hope this incident hasn't given Arabs (like me) a bad rep... Some of us were affected, too. And I don't particularly like my ISIS-ruled map neighbors.

[Exocet]

Well, give a chance to who you want. I will not vote.
But yeah when an ideology is based on hate it is some f*cking fascism (amalgalm, maybe, let's ask Lord Vlerchan). Have you seen in the streets of la région parisienne those posters "Choisissez votre banlieue"?.

A tweet of MLP.

"Le fondamentalisme islamiste doit être anéanti, les mosquées radicales doivent être fermées, les imams radicaux expulsés."
Se is talking about l"Islam Radical,and doesn't put our muslim "compatriotes" in the same bag. Potato.

As for the posters "choisssez votre banlieue",i've never seen one. I've only seen those posters "L'Algérie c'est ton pays ? Retournes-y." Which i agree at 100% with.

[phuckphace]

I hope this incident hasn't given Arabs (like me) a bad rep... Some of us were affected, too. And I don't particularly like my ISIS-ruled map neighbors.

religion ain't genetic, bruh. consider yourself in the clear

[Exocet]

The terrorist that had a Syrian passport ,has been registered as a "refugee" in Greece.... *cough* *cough*

[dxcxdzv]

Se is talking about l"Islam Radical,and doesn't put our muslim "compatriotes" in the same bag. Potato.

As for the posters "choisssez votre banlieue",i've never seen one. I've only seen those posters "L'Algérie c'est ton pays ? Retournes-y." Which i agree at 100% with.

http://www.saphirnews.com/photo/art/grande/8503027-13370771.jpg?v=1447181621
"Choose your Suburb, Vote Front!" (for our english friends)

And what do you call "radical islam"?

[Jinglebottom]

religion ain't genetic, bruh. consider yourself in the clear
Heck, I'm not even Muslim. I belong to a tiny religious minority. :D
But then again, no rational person would support an organization like ISIS.

[Exocet]

image (http://www.saphirnews.com/photo/art/grande/8503027-13370771.jpg?v=1447181621)
"Choose your Suburb, Vote Front!" (for our english friends)

And what do you call "radical islam"?

Ok so,where's the problem with that poster ? Many radicalized people come from the Banlieues (Merah,Kouachis.....)these places are full of radicalized persons,thugs etc. Weapons everywhere and the state is doing nothing. The cops are even afraid to go there. "On va se faire caillasser". When they go to the Quartiers Nords de Marseille (as an exemple),they have to "almost" wear like GIGN operatives.

[sqishy]

The terrorist that had a Syrian passport ,has been registered as a "refugee" in Greece.... *cough* *cough*

Certainly true that the refugee situation is a very good place for opportunists/etc with malevolent intentions.

[dxcxdzv]

Ok so,where's the problem with that poster ? Many radicalized people come from the Banlieues (Merah,Kouachis.....)these places are full of radicalized persons,thugs etc. Weapons everywhere and the state is doing nothing. The cops are even afraid to go there. "On va se faire caillasser". When they go to the Quartiers Nords de Marseille (as an exemple),they have to "almost" wear like GIGN operatives.
Of course we will not talk about poverty, so don't talk about the Northern districts.
This poster just shows a "frenchie pretty woman" and a "muslim". Not everyone is wearing an integral burqa. It's not Islam that makes some suburbs dangerous, violence, poverty and stupidity didn't wait the 7th century.
This poster is just inciting people to think and say "Islam, get the hell out" implicitly telling them to fear and hate the muslims "because there will be integral burqas everywhere".

[Exocet]

Of course we will not talk about poverty, so don't talk about the Northern districts.
This poster just shows a "frenchie pretty woman" and a "muslim". Not everyone is wearing an integral burqa. It's not Islam that makes some suburbs dangerous, violence, poverty and stupidity didn't wait the 7th century.
This poster is just inciting people to think and say "Islam, get the hell out" implicitly telling them to fear and hate the muslims "because there will be integral burqas everywhere".

http://www.corse-du-sud.gouv.fr/IMG/jpg/CampagneDissimulationVisage_Affiche_cle2d9dfd.jpg

[sqishy]

Heck, I'm not even Muslim. I belong to a tiny religious minority. :D
But then again, no rational person would support an organization like ISIS.

Unless one is using it as a strategic tool. Of course, this being with bad intentions.

[dxcxdzv]

Not everyone is wearing an integral burqa

Ya potato!

[Uniquemind]

Time to incorporate mortal combat training into schools PE.

Remind all boys and girls who want to fight in school that there is a higher calling to defeat.

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How long is the countrywide lockdown going to be? A couple months?

[sqishy]

Weird how passports are (conveniently?) present with some of the perpetrators.

[lacey02]

All the city is like in Hell. I heard cops sirens for a hour and the president is in a crisis meeting next to my home.
My family and friends called me and told me not to leave my apartment.

glad you are safe and sorry for the losses in your city. America supports you!

[sqishy]

Translated by news.siteintelgroup.com , here is the speech that ISIL has released. They claim responsiblity, but as I have said before, that does not necessairily mean they did it (though it is highly likely).
[I have this in the ROTW thread about this event too.]



____________________

Urgent: Statement about the Blessed Paris Invasion on the French Crusaders

In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

The Almighty said: “And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But Allah's (Torment) reached them from a place whereof they expected it not, and He cast terror into their hearts so that they destroyed their own dwellings with their own hands and the hands of the believers. Then take admonition, O you with eyes (to see).” [Al-Hashr: 2]

In a blessed attack for which Allah facilitated the causes for success, a faithful group of the soldiers of the Caliphate, may Allah dignify it and make it victorious, launched out, targeting the capital of prostitution and obscenity, the carrier of the banner of the Cross in Europe, Paris… Youths who divorced the world and went to their enemy seeking to be killed in the cause of Allah, in support of His religion and His Prophet, Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, and his charges, and to put the nose of His enemies in the ground. So they were honest with Allah, we consider them thusly, and Allah conquered through their hands and cast in the hearts of the Crusaders horror in the middle of their land, where eight brothers wrapped in explosive belts and armed with machine rifles, targeted sites that were accurately chosen in the heart of the capital of France, including the Stade de France during the match between the Crusader German and French teams, where the fool of France, Francois Hollande, was present.

[They also targeted] the Bataclan Conference Center, where hundreds of apostates had gathered in a profligate prostitution party, and other areas in the 10th and 11th and 18th [arrondissements] and in a coordinated fashion. So Paris shook under their feet, and its streets were tight upon them, and the result of the attacks was the death of no less than 100 Crusaders and the wounding of more than those, and unto Allah is all praise and gratitude.

Allah had granted our brothers their wish and gave them what they loved, for they detonated their belts in the gatherings of the disbelievers after running out of ammunition, we ask Allah to accept them among the martyrs and make us follow them.

Let France and those who walk in its path know that they will remain on the top of the list of targets of the Islamic State, and that the smell of death will never leave their noses as long as they lead the convoy of the Crusader campaign, and dare to curse our Prophet, Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, and are proud of fighting Islam in France and striking the Muslims in the land of the Caliphate with their planes, which did not help them at all in the streets of Paris and its rotten alleys. This attack is the first of the storm and a warning to those who wish to learn.

Allah is Great

“But honor, power and glory belong to Allah, and to His Messenger (Muhammad), and to the believers, but the hypocrites know not.” [From Al-Munafiqun: 8]
____________________




If it is of any trivial note, I have spotted grammatical mistakes and a vague reference near the end. In other words, it's not a great speech.

[phuckphace]

[...]the fool of France, Francois Hollande[...]

gotta concur with Mohammad here

one would think al-Hollande would be super popular in the Islamosphere for his enthusiastic efforts to bring as many of the Prophet's faithful into France as possible, but it seems in real life they actually hate the West and would like it to burn. at least they do the jobs French ppl won't

[Porpoise101]

I heard Hollande's speech and I just loved it when he ended with "vive la république, vive la France."
Our presidents should say that in English in our speeches imagine: "long live the republic!" on every television and radio it would be great.

On another note this guy called
Shirvan on YouTube made a video about Islamic history. The last part he released was about the Khawaarji, who are the 8th century version of IS in effect. I think it is pertinent to see how like the Khawaarji rose up and destabilized the region IS has done the same. Maybe we will learn from their downfall too.

[phuckphace]

Our presidents should say that in English in our speeches imagine: "long live the republic!" on every television and radio it would be great.

just wait until 2016, [-]Prez[/-] Reichsführer Drumpf will be ending his speeches with "Amerika über alles!"

[Leprous]

Fun fact, one of the guys responsible for the attacks, and also for many others, is Belgian. We have a village near Brussels that is filled with people related to IS. There have been 2 bomb allerts and some events are beinh cancelled due to terror threats. I don't think the French will like us anymore concidering the fact the terrorists made it trough the Belgian border after being questioned by the police.

[Exocet]

Fun fact, one of the guys responsible for the attacks, and also for many others, is Belgian. We have a village near Brussels that is filled with people related to IS. There have been 2 bomb allerts and some events are beinh cancelled due to terror threats. I don't think the French will like us anymore concidering the fact the terrorists made it trough the Belgian border after being questioned by the police.

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Belgians"""""""""""""""""""""".

[Leprous]

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Belgians"""""""""""""""""""""".

Yeah that explains it basicly.

[phuckphace]

if it has a Belgian Passport it's definitely ((((((Belgian)))))) dontcha know

[Cadanance00]

In any reaction we should ask ourselves is this exactly what they're trying to accomplish. After 9/11 the US created a vast security bureaucracy that likely will be the end of democracy as we know it. Who won that one?

[Judean Zealot]

In any reaction we should ask ourselves is this exactly what they're trying to accomplish.

They're trying to primarily to drum up recruitment, which bombing them only goes to reinforce.

[Cadanance00]

They're trying to primarily to drum up recruitment, which bombing them only goes to reinforce.

I'm sure you're right about that. They've also got this apocalyptic vision of war between the Muslims and everybody else. I'm scared of people with apocalyptic visions. Hitler had one.

[Leprous]

if it has a Belgian Passport it's definitely ((((((Belgian)))))) dontcha know

Yeah yeah I get it but he still lived in Belgium. Also, another fun fact, Belgium has the biggest % of muslims going to Syria out of all other countries in Europe.

[Exocet]

Yeah yeah I get it but he still lived in Belgium. Also, another fun fact, Belgium has the biggest % of muslims going to Syria out of all other countries in Europe.

I don't think it is fun to host the biggest number of fanatics and beheaders.... Belgium should do everything so they won't come back..... and BTW,deport all those that could pose a threat to Belgium. No way we should let them go to Syria,kill,behead and whatsoever and come back as if they left the country to visit another one....

[Leprous]

I don't think it is fun to host the biggest number of fanatics and beheaders.... Belgium should do everything so they won't come back..... and BTW,deport all those that could pose a threat to Belgium. No way we should let them go to Syria,kill,behead and whatsoever and come back as if they left the country to visit another one....

Well, the thing is, I live in a retarted country. Like, they just allow them to come back without doing anything about it. Politicians here aren't loved that much.

[Porpoise101]

Well, the thing is, I live in a retarted country. Like, they just allow them to come back without doing anything about it. Politicians here aren't loved that much.
Your country doesn't even make sense to begin with, so the current issue does not help at all.

[Leprous]

Your country doesn't even make sense to begin with, so the current issue does not help at all.

Exactly, I like Belgium as a country, but yeah, politics...

[Exocet]

Your country doesn't even make sense to begin with, so the current issue does not help at all.


You sometimes loose hope when you see the politicians ! Or even want to vomit...

[Stronk Serb]

I wish Seselj would return us to kebab removal agendas from twenty years ago. Our current premier is pretty much a liberal Eurobitch cuck.

[phuckphace]

I wish Seselj would return us to kebab removal agendas from twenty years ago. Our current premier is pretty much a liberal Eurobitch cuck.

it rubs the Euro on its chin, or else it gets The Hague again

[StoppingTom]

So I heard there were French Nationals at the Radisson in Mali? Was this their way of just kicking France while they were down, or was it just coincidence?

[Exocet]

So I heard there were French Nationals at the Radisson in Mali? Was this their way of just kicking France while they were down, or was it just coincidence?

There were French citizens,including some French soldiers. (Peacekeepers it seems.) A lot of Chinese,Indians etc.
The chief of the terrorist group Ansar Edine called to denounce the peace agreement signed between the different sides and called to continue the fight against France...

[Leprous]

There were French citizens,including some French soldiers. (Peacekeepers it seems.) A lot of Chinese,Indians etc.
The chief of the terrorist group Ansar Edine called to denounce the peace agreement signed between the different sides and called to continue the fight against France...

Belgian died there aswell. To make matters worse, Brussels is literaly on complete lockdown. Soldiers everywhere, all events cancelled, shops closed. This can't keep going on this way.

[Exocet]

Belgian died there aswell. To make matters worse, Brussels is literaly on complete lockdown. Soldiers everywhere, all events cancelled, shops closed. This can't keep going on this way.

Yes,i saw trough pictures how Belgium deployed its soldiers in Bruxelles...... it seems that there is a strong terrorist threat.... Soldiers,armored vehicles everywhere,almost nobody in the streets.

If we want to avoid living in fear for ever,it's time to deport all these terrorists and their sympathizers out of Europe,and make sure they won't come back,it's time to close the borders,to avoid bringing more and more terrorists and whatsoever...

France will stay in state of emergency during 3 months....

#Wearewithyou

[Porpoise101]

France is considering shutting down radical mosques now

[Exocet]

France is considering shutting down radical mosques now

Of course we will. We also deported many imams that spread hate.
We also stripped of their French nationality many persons on terrorism charges.
We also deport them.
We don't need them in our country.

[Porpoise101]

I think we should do that in the US honestly for mosques and churches so we will stop homegrown terrorists and KKK types who are annoying once they get a little confidence. But in America, hate speech is free speech which has its perks occasionally, it just makes things more difficult to stop radicals.

[wolf g]

i knew about what happen in paris

[Exocet]

I think we should do that in the US honestly for mosques and churches so we will stop homegrown terrorists and KKK types who are annoying once they get a little confidence. But in America, hate speech is free speech which has its perks occasionally, it just makes things more difficult to stop radicals.

KKK guys look almost like Saints compared to them.

[Bontigo Papi .]

Anything new regarding ISIS? I heard two women were suicide bombers in Nigeria I think, is that related to ISIS?

[Exocet]

Anything new regarding ISIS? I heard two women were suicide bombers in Nigeria I think, is that related to ISIS?

Boko Haram most likely....
They (ISIS) also executed a Norwegian and a Chinese...

[Bontigo Papi .]

Boko Haram most likely....
They (ISIS) also executed a Norwegian and a Chinese...

God, when last did I hear about Boko?

Know where those assassinations took place?

[Exocet]

God, when last did I hear about Boko?

When they captured hundreds of students ?

Know where those assassinations took place?

Don't know if in Iraq or Syria.

[Jinglebottom]

Comment va la situation en France à ce moment? :(

[Exocet]

Comment va la situation en France à ce moment? :(

It's shitty,there are nobody in streets,army deployed tanks,people are afraid to go outside. There is a curfew after 9pm,and some minutes ago one man was shot and killed by the soldiers for not respecting this curfew. I fear for my life,we are afraid. :(

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:)

No,serously,we've been attacked,but we won't change our way of life,show they that we are afraid (I don't say that some people aren't afraid and i understand them...),if we do,they won. The life continues (It would probably take some weeks before everything gets fine as before the attacks...)but the security has been reinforced,10.000 soldiers have been deployed,protecting strategic places etc.. and France is currently in a 3 months state of emergency. The Police is still investigating,and already raided a lot of houses,and managed to capture a lot of "terrorists",including a lot of weapons,and even rockets.....

[Judean Zealot]

Anything new regarding ISIS? I heard two women were suicide bombers in Nigeria I think, is that related to ISIS?

I just heard that earlier in the week 'Jihad John' kissed a missile. We won't miss him. :)

[Jinglebottom]

It's shitty,there are nobody in streets,army deployed tanks,people are afraid to go outside. There is a curfew after 9pm,and some minutes ago one man was shot and killed by the soldiers for not respecting this curfew. I fear for my life,we are afraid. :(

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:)

No,serously,we've been attacked,but we won't change our way of life,show they that we are afraid (I don't say that some people aren't afraid and i understand them...),if we do,they won. The life continues (It would probably take some weeks before everything gets fine as before the attacks...)but the security has been reinforced,10.000 soldiers have been deployed,protecting strategic places etc.. and France is currently in a 3 months state of emergency. The Police is still investigating,and already raided a lot of houses,and managed to capture a lot of "terrorists",including a lot of weapons,and even rockets.....
Woah, it's things like this that show just how different France and Lebanon are in that respect. While we were attacked just a day before you did, no one is afraid (at least, not anymore).

Seriously, the police sent out a warning not to visit this specific mall because they captured a suspicious person there, yet I still went today and it was literally full of people. We just don't care.

Je vous souhaite la paix, et j'espére que vous regagnerai votre courage contre ces terroristes repulsifs! Ne les laisser pas vous controller de cette manière. :) Soyez comme les Libanais! On s'en fiche de leurs essais pitoyable de nous détruire.

[Exocet]

Woah, it's things like this that show just how different France and Lebanon are in that respect. While we were attacked just a day before you did, no one is afraid (at least, not anymore).

Seriously, the police sent out a warning not to visit this specific mall because they captured a suspicious person there, yet I still went today and it was literally full of people. We just don't care.

Je vous souhaite la paix, et j'espére que vous regagnerai votre courage contre ces terroristes repulsifs! Ne les laisser pas vous controller de cette manière. :) Soyez comme les Libanais! On s'en fiche de leurs essais pitoyable de nous détruire.

I also wish you to live in peace and prosper,not to be afraid,and fight them til the last. Sadly a nice country like Lebanon is the collateral victim of the conflicts/of interests in Middle East,and is paying a heavy price. :(

Look,ISIS are on route to defeat,they are doing some desperate acts.....
The forces of darkness will loose,they also do.

[Jinglebottom]

I also wish you to live in peace and prosper,not to be afraid,and fight them til the last. Sadly a nice country like Lebanon is the collateral victim of the conflicts/of interests in Middle East,and is paying a heavy price. :(

Look,ISIS are on route to defeat,they are doing some desperate acts.....
The forces of darkness will loose,they also do.
Lol, well we happen to be in the perfect spot for foreign influences (such as Iran, Palestine, Syria and plenty more) to wreak havoc and manipulate us like a puppet. Sometimes I wish we were an island to escape our shitty map neighbors but that's most likely geographically impossible. :)

We'll never recover from our civil war at that rate. I miss the days we were called the "Paris of the Middle East". But at least Paris and us both have something in common right now, even if it's a terrible thing. Brings us closer.

[Judean Zealot]

Woah, it's things like this that show just how different France and Lebanon are in that respect. While we were attacked just a day before you did, no one is afraid (at least, not anymore).

Seriously, the police sent out a warning not to visit this specific mall because they captured a suspicious person there, yet I still went today and it was literally full of people. We just don't care.

Je vous souhaite la paix, et j'espére que vous regagnerai votre courage contre ces terroristes repulsifs! Ne les laisser pas vous controller de cette manière. :) Soyez comme les Libanais! On s'en fiche de leurs essais pitoyable de nous détruire.

It's the same exact thing here. We've had something liketwo hundred killed or wounded by Palestinians since the start of October, but by now nobody gives a tinker's damn when we hear of an attack.

[Jinglebottom]

It's the same exact thing here. We've had something liketwo hundred killed or wounded by Palestinians since the start of October, but by now nobody gives a tinker's damn when we hear of an attack.
Those Palestinians are ought to start trouble wherever they are, huh? I never liked them. We were basically a training ground for their militant organizations throughout the 1960s till 1982 (thereby contributing to the unrest which eventually caused our disastrous war). No pity for my "Arab brothers".

[Porpoise101]

God, when last did I hear about Boko?

Know where those assassinations took place?
Mali

[sqishy]

Of course we will. We also deported many imams that spread hate.
We also stripped of their French nationality many persons on terrorism charges.
We also deport them.
We don't need them in our country.

Do you mean extremist 'muslims' or all muslims? Either way, shutting down mosques is an over-the-top move for me, putting it short.

[Exocet]

Do you mean extremist 'muslims' or all muslims? Either way, shutting down mosques is an over-the-top move for me, putting it short.


I meant extremists.
And yes,shutting down the Mosques that spread hate,that could create other Jihadis wannabe is a good idea.

[sqishy]

I meant extremists.
And yes,shutting down the Mosques that spread hate,that could create other Jihadis wannabe is a good idea.

Reasonable enough, if the Mosques are not actually being Mosques by hate-spreading, etc.

[phuckphace]

I meant extremists.
And yes,shutting down the Mosques that spread hate,that could create other Jihadis wannabe is a good idea.

if you've got mosques filled with extremists I'd say your first order of business is a deportation plan of some kind. you can close the building but it won't solve the problem until the borders are closed too.

[Bontigo Papi .]

When they captured hundreds of students ?

Yeah... That was months ago.

[Leprous]

Meanwhile in Brussels: military operation, all people staying at the Radisson Blu hotel are requested to stay away from all windows and to stay inside. 2nd day of the Brussels lockdown. I have no idea what the fuck is going on anymore.

[Exocet]

Meanwhile in Brussels: military operation, all people staying at the Radisson Blu hotel are requested to stay away from all windows and to stay inside. 2nd day of the Brussels lockdown. I have no idea what the fuck is going on anymore.

Do you live in Bruxelles ?
It seems that there is a big operation ongoing.

[Leprous]

Do you live in Bruxelles ?
It seems that there is a big operation ongoing.

Nope, live like an hour away by car from Brussels, but if you take a look at the distance it's not far....Looking at twitter it's bad. All schools in Brussels are closed, including universities. Man what the hell is happening.

[Jinglebottom]

Nope, live like an hour away by car from Brussels, but if you take a look at the distance it's not far....Looking at twitter it's bad. All schools in Brussels are closed, including universities. Man what the hell is happening.
Why, did ISIS threaten to attack Brussels the way it did to Paris?

[Leprous]

Why, did ISIS threaten to attack Brussels the way it did to Paris?

I honeslty I have no idea what's going on but police and the army are everywhere.

[Exocet]

Nope, live like an hour away by car from Brussels, but if you take a look at the distance it's not far....Looking at twitter it's bad. All schools in Brussels are closed, including universities. Man what the hell is happening.

Yeah i saw on twitter people tweeting they are told not to go outside,i saw soldiers in Radisson hotel,and police evrywhere.Only the government knows what's goin' on,and seeing what's happening currently,there is a great threat.

[Leprous]

Yeah i saw on twitter people tweeting they are told not to go outside,i saw soldiers in Radisson hotel,and police evrywhere.Only the government knows what's goin' on,and seeing what's happening currently,there is a great threat.

Well, my lovely little triangle is fucked.

[Jinglebottom]

I honeslty I have no idea what's going on but police and the army are everywhere.
Ahh I see. Stay safe, wherever you are. :(

[Stronk Serb]

China declared war on ISIS. They are already combatting extremists inside China, both domestic and those passing by to Afghanistan.

[Leprous]

Ahh I see. Stay safe, wherever you are. :(

I will, I'm not too close to Brussels.

[Porpoise101]

China declared war on ISIS. They are already combatting extremists inside China, both domestic and those passing by to Afghanistan.
That's one good thing about authoritarianism, as bad as it is. You can make sure documents and reports of terrorism stay silent so hysteria doesn't spread. And then you can clean up the mess quickly and quietly without debating the semantics. In NW China there is an Ughyur population who is occasionally revolting, but only a few major attacks have been reported. God knows how many have actually been perpetrated.

[Stronk Serb]

That's one good thing about authoritarianism, as bad as it is. You can make sure documents and reports of terrorism stay silent so hysteria doesn't spread. And then you can clean up the mess quickly and quietly without debating the semantics. In NW China there is an Ughyur population who is occasionally revolting, but only a few major attacks have been reported. God knows how many have actually been perpetrated.

They mostly suppress them before it becomes a problem.

[Exocet]

marb121

If you look at the hashtag #Brusselsislockdown people are flooding it with cats ! Hahaha,the Belgians are the best.
(If people do not understand,they are doing it to not give informations to the terrorists about Police operations...)

[phuckphace]

That's one good thing about authoritarianism, as bad as it is.

you can also do lots of other fun shit like wear a pimpin' brown uniform and kill perverts for days until the Cantevening reaches a critical mass and goes singular

[Leprous]

marb121

If you look at the hashtag #Brusselsislockdown people are flooding it with cats ! Hahaha,the Belgians are the best.
(If people do not understand,they are doing it to not give informations to the terrorists about Police operations...)

Yeah, saw that aswell xD

[phuckphace]

somebody explain the cats pls (how does kitty relate to terrorism I mean)

[Leprous]

somebody explain the cats pls (how does kitty relate to terrorism I mean)

Well, everyone in Brussels started tweeting about the #Brusselslockdown and the police asked people to stop tweeting the location of agents and soldiers. After that everyone started spamming cats instead.