Refugee crisis: Slovenia calls in army to help patrol borders

[tovaris]

Government passes legislation early on Wednesday boosting security presence on border with Croatia


Slovenia on Tuesday called in the army to help it manage refugees seeking to reach northern Europe before winter, as the small EU state became the latest trouble spot on the migrant trail.

The Slovenian government amended the country’s defence law early on Wednesday to allow soldiers to join border police in patrolling the 670-kilometre border with Croatia, and said it would ask for financial backup from the EU to deal with numbers that have “exceeded all manageable possibilities”.

Since Saturday, when Hungary sealed off its border with Croatia, more than 19,460 migrants have arrived in Slovenia, a nation of two million people.

Under the new measures approved by parliament, Slovenian soldiers can assist police in patrolling the border, detain people and hand them over to police, and issue orders to civilians in the border area.

Until now, the army could provide only technical and logistical support to police.

With at least 9,000 people landing on Europe’s beaches every day, there appeared to be no end in sight to the continent’s biggest migration wave since the second world war.

The Slovenian government said: “The last 24 hours have been the toughest and most demanding since the start of the crisis”, and warned it was “delusional” to expect small countries to succeed where larger ones had failed.

The prime minister, Miro Cerar, told journalists on the sidelines of the parliamentary session it would also ask the bloc for backup from police forces in other EU countries and extra equipment for its own officers.

The EU commissioner for migration, Dimitris Avramopoulos, is expected to visit Slovenia on Thursday to discuss the request.

In Greece, the crisis showed no sign of abating with a clear “spike in arrivals” that left 27,500 people packed on the Greek islands by Tuesday morning, the United Nations said.

And thousands were left stranded in wet, freezing weather on Croatia’s frontier with Serbia, after travelling up through Greece and Macedonia.

More than 600,000 migrants and refugees, mainly fleeing violence in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, have braved the dangerous journey to Europe so far this year.

The trip that many have made on inflatable boats from Turkey to Greece has left more than 3,000 dead or missing.

The goal for many is the EU’s biggest economy, Germany, which expects to take in up to one million refugees this year.

In September, the EU announced plans to relocate 120,000 asylum seekers from overstretched frontline states Italy and Greece by means of a compulsory quota system that was fiercely opposed by some eastern members of the bloc.

The plan requires most of the 28 member states to accept a share of 160,000 people from the two Mediterranean nations over two years.

So far only 19 Eritrean asylum seekers have been relocated from Italy to Sweden although another 100 people are due to be flown to other cities in the coming days.

Member states have also been slow to follow up with promised financial help – out of the €2.8bn ($3.2bn) pledged at an emergency EU summit on 23 September, only about €474m has materialised.

In a related development, the EU’s border agency said member states had provided less than half the personnel it had requested to help in overstretched locations in Greece and Italy.

In October, the agency said it needed 775 more border guards to help on the bloc’s frontiers, but so far member states have offered to provide only 291.

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/slovenia-calls-in-army-refugee-crisis-borders-europe

[Stronk Serb]

Holy crap... I would GTFO of the EU and divert them elsewhere.

[tovaris]

Holy crap... I would GTFO of the EU and divert them elsewhere.

refuges can be useful to EU if we destribute them smart

[phuckphace]

refuges can be useful to EU if we destribute them smart

coolies!

picture the Beav on a two-wheeled cart, giving no phucks as he's pulled through the scenic streets by a Somalian father of ten

[tovaris]

coolies!

picture the Beav on a two-wheeled cart, giving no phucks as he's pulled through the scenic streets by a Somalian father of ten

What? I dont understand what you tried to say

But i would settle these milions on the north, grenland for example, right on the north. There is aluminum ore there=jobs (EU makes nonprofit nimes) and since denmark has truble claming soverenety owe that land this would helkćp them a lot

[Exocet]

Funny how the U.S creates mess in the middle east,but nobody is flooding them... They are MILES away from the problems they created,they do not have to deal with "refugees"...

[Miserabilia]

Why does it matter how many inhabitants alovenia has? These arent people specifacly going to slovenia, but since eu isnt allowing most refugees proper travel to their destinations they travel through europe and get stranded elswherr.

[Stronk Serb]

Why does it matter how many inhabitants alovenia has? These arent people specifacly going to slovenia, but since eu isnt allowing most refugees proper travel to their destinations they travel through europe and get stranded elswherr.

Because for small countries managing to get those refugees across is a real strain on finances and the people. Imagine several thousand people going through your community and you have to make sure they leave it safely, now multiply that by a thousand and there you have it.

[Jinglebottom]

I know the feels.

As of February 2015, Turkey hosts the most refugees of any country, having 1.7 million Syrian refugees, whilst Lebanon and Jordan have by far the most refugees per capita, at c.25% and c.11% respectively.

[Miserabilia]

Because for small countries managing to get those refugees across is a real strain on finances and the people. Imagine several thousand people going through your community and you have to make sure they leave it safely, now multiply that by a thousand and there you have it.

There you have what?
What you have there is you ask others for help. You don't just try to get them away and move your problem to someone else.
The EU could easily help the situation, give the refugees transportation, but no; they have to pretty much go through a continent on foot. And then people complain about them?

[Stronk Serb]

There you have what?
What you have there is you ask others for help. You don't just try to get them away and move your problem to someone else.
The EU could easily help the situation, give the refugees transportation, but no; they have to pretty much go through a continent on foot. And then people complain about them?

They don't want to stay in countries like Slovenia, Serbia or Hungary, the end of their route is Germany, Sweden or France because of delicious welfare. The transportation from border to border is under jurisdiction of countries they pass through, when they migrated through Serbia, the state transported them from border to border via train and bus. The EU is not helping the situation by forcing everyone to adopt acceptance quotas. Nobody wants them because where they settle in large numbers, crime rises and interreligious violence starts, usually agitated by the newcomers

[Miserabilia]

because where they settle in large numbers, crime rises and interreligious violence starts, usually agitated by the newcomers

statistic?

[Stronk Serb]

statistic?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260393/muslim-migrants-increase-crime-germany-65-daniel-greenfield

Also there was a case where a bunch of migrants in Northern Italy smashed the statue of Virgin Mary and urinated on it. Also there was a camp-wide brawl in one camp in southern Germany when one guy ripped a Quran and threw it in the toilet. Also one of the prepetrators of the Paris terror attack was a 'refugee' registered in Greece.

[Miserabilia]

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260393/muslim-migrants-increase-crime-germany-65-daniel-greenfield

Also there was a case where a bunch of migrants in Northern Italy smashed the statue of Virgin Mary and urinated on it. Also there was a camp-wide brawl in one camp in southern Germany when one guy ripped a Quran and threw it in the toilet. Also one of the prepetrators of the Paris terror attack was a 'refugee' registered in Greece.

ayy lmao that website
"Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out"

According to statistics from the Federal Criminal Police vedomstva Germany the number of offenses committed by asylum seekers has increased dramatically. Given the large number of immigrants, it is not surprising. In 2013 it was registered 32 495 crimes, and in 2014 - already 53 890. A particularly sharp increase in thefts (from 9421 to 16066) attacks with bodily injury (from 5172 to 8994)

Okay so are you even seirous right now?

The amount of offenses commited by asylum seekers..

The amount of asylum seekers has drasticly increased..

So yes, the amount of crimes commited by them also increases because there's more..

That's literaly all that it is. Your extreme anti immigrant website and you are interpeting this in some strange way as if relative crime has increased but it has not.
Amongst every group of people there is dickheads and assholes, more people means more dickheads and assholes.
This is irrelevant to what people they are, whether they be natives or immigrants.

And wow, oh my golly, one of the attackers was concidered a refugee?
That's literaly the first documented case.

I challenge you to come up with one adventage there is as a terrorist to pretend to be a refugee. Seriously, give me one.
Why would they want to spend extra time money and risk their lives to get somewhere they aren't allowed in mostly, to do a terrorist attack there?

In general the terrorist are people who can literaly fly in or have other means of transportation or are already there. They have a huge amount of money spended by ISIS for their attacks so obviously they do not need to spend months among refugees to get where they want to be.

[Stronk Serb]

Miserabilia

http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/refdaily?pass=52fc6fbd5&id=53cdfc198

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/21/italy-immigrants-smash-statue-of-virgin-mary-and-urinate-on-it/


https://www.rt.com/news/317365-germany-police-refugees-fear/


Are you sure? Ayy lmao all you want.

[phuckphace]

"Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out"

that feel, I know it well

[Miserabilia]

Miserabilia

http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/refdaily?pass=52fc6fbd5&id=53cdfc198

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/21/italy-immigrants-smash-statue-of-virgin-mary-and-urinate-on-it/


https://www.rt.com/news/317365-germany-police-refugees-fear/


Are you sure? Ayy lmao all you want.


Yes I will lmao.

Even if we ignore the fact that you misinterpeted the first source (and so did the website themselves) to the point where I just won't call it lying to be nice,
there sources still have no statistical data.

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http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/refdaily?pass=52fc6fbd5&id=53cdfc198

""Due to the influx of thousands of refugees from Syria and other parts of Iraq, the amount of crime and arrests have increased," added Hawdeyani."

This is it? This quote is untracable besides other websites quoting the same thing. This isn't a statistic, it's an observation. They aren't even trying to attach a number, not to mention the same thing could apply I said earlier.

This also only applies to this particular case, says nothing about syrian refugees as a whole.

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http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/21/italy-immigrants-smash-statue-of-virgin-mary-and-urinate-on-it/

In other news! Hunderds of edgy american teens burn and mutilate precious quran's! Oh no muh religion.

Now let's have a look at this article seriously though.

"Immigrants" Smash Statue of Virgin Mary and Urinate on It

okay lmao;

According to eyewitnesses the act of vandalism was perpetrated by “a small group of people of North African origin,”

So basicly... brown people equals syrian refugees. riight...

This really is just another case of religion v.s religion, a conflict that's all around the world and obviously where they collide this happens, I don't understand how you can expect anyone to take this as a serious point of criticism to syrian refugees.

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https://www.rt.com/news/317365-germany-police-refugees-fear/

"They go on strike because they don't like the accommodation and they cause trouble because they don't like the food. They beat each other in the facilities for asylum seekers," he said.

Yeah how dare they go on strike? They should be happt with whatever they have blablabla. Again and again I hear this , like people are jealous of them. I'm sorry, the people that probably went through more traumatizing experiences than we ever have want decent treatment?
No, ofcourse we need to have it better than them; they should live on the absolute minimum and don't they dare ask for more.
This is the kind of shit that I do actualy get angry about.

And then ofcourse the "they beat each other".
I'm sorry, do you really see this as a problem? Seems to me you don't care much for them. The people fighting each other mentioned in this article are syrian's and afghans. The one's fighting were arrested and justice was served.
End of story.

[Stronk Serb]

Miserabilia Not all 'refugees' are from Syria. Also, Germany offers best accommodations. Hell, they even forced a 100 people village to take in 1000 'refugees'. Besides, those refugees could get a job and contribute to society instead of causing trouble. It doesn't matter if justice was served, they took their violence with them. Besides, I present you valid sources and you do not present one I return.

[Miserabilia]

Not all 'refugees' are from Syria.

Valid point. Most are from the same region and feeling for the same reasons though, since obviously we are discussing the same refugee crisis here, the one going on in europe right now.

Also, Germany offers best accommodations. Hell, they even forced a 100 people village to take in 1000 'refugees'.

"they" don't "force" anyone.
If the people in the village aggree for the most part they don't like this, and have proof that the refugees are causing trouble or somehow being harmful to their village, they can appeal to the government.

Besides, those refugees could get a job and contribute to society instead of causing trouble.

Wooowww. I can't even count how much I've heard this.

If they work they're taking our jobs, and if they don't they aren't contributing to society right? Right.
They aren't working immediately because they aren't allowed to.
Because of immigration policies obviously they integrate properly into the new country first. Yes this takes time.
Not to mention the fact that every time I hear in the news about refugees tha are working somewhere, there's general outrage.
"muh jobs!"
Honestly do you think there's some collective mind of all refugees "I"m moving so I can get free money without working!"
These people are fleeing from terror and war. They have spent most of their money and risked their lives getting here so obviously they are prepared to work, they have already worked to get here in the first place, have already worked against a population where so many people want them gone.

It doesn't matter if justice was served, they took their violence with them.

Why doesn't it matter? If someone commits a crime and they get justice, their potential danger is limited and or removed from society.
How does that not matter?
"they " took violence with them.. Is that a valid reason to refuse all of them entrance? Send them all away?
In that case I'd also like to send away all soccer tokkies and chavs fighting each other and causing general chaos.


Besides, I present you valid sources and you do not present one I return.

May I ask in what way they are valid?
None of them backed the statistic you said, the only legitimate source didn't even have a statistic, it was un untracable quote.
The rest were isolted incidents that have nothing to do with the refugee crisis as a whole.

I don't understand what you expect me to have a valid source for, I'm not making any statistcal claims here, or other statements that attritube something to a whole group of people without evidence.

[Stronk Serb]

Miserabilia

I cannot find any statistics. I am going to submit this article. The war in Syria is pretty much fought by Kurdish women since the males ran away lmao.


http://m.sputniknews.com/europe/20151007/1028179977/German-Officials-Hide-Refugees-Crimes.html