American Dad allows his Son to be Disney Princess Elsa for Halloween

[James Dean]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/virginia-boy-elsa-frozen-halloween-article-1.2389186


"As children get older, they distance themselves from their parents. Why start that split sooner than they need to?" Henson told The Huffington Post. "It's important for children to know that their parents will stand by them no matter what. Ashley and I will do whatever it takes to keep our son happy and not take his innocence and imagination from him."

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I was surprised nobody brought this story up yet as it has gone viral pretty much. The picture and facebook status came out last Friday.

I'm going to be devil's advocate. As a gay person, I'm not hating on this event and if the son wants to be Elsa, that's great. But I see an issue with this.

So basically a Dad takes his son halloween costume shopping. The son tells the Dad that he wants to be Elsa from Disney's Frozen.

Instead of what usually Dad's do, which is tell the son Hell No and prompt him to pick out a masculine and male orientated costume, the Dad accepts this and instead takes a photo of it, and posts it on social media.

Where my issue is, I think the Dad is looking for attention, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was anti gay, or anti gender roles before this situation.

I'm sure when his Son picked out a dress, all he thought of was the likes and retweets he was going to get by his so called born again LGBT support.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy for this story, yet I have to play devil's advocate.

What if he takes the kid out and other boys get jealous because they weren't allowed to dress as a Disney Princess.

Say he takes the boy trick or treating and another boy beats him up? Is he going to sue that boy's parents?

What happens when he wants to start to wear dresses at school?

He's a minor and he doesn't know how closed minded America is. That father just basically contracted himself. He said children have to grow up, yet basically admitted he's gonna baby his son if he wants to be dress female. Smh.

I don't know, maybe I'm just jealous. I remember when I was six for independence day party we had company over, I wore my mother's high heels and her wig and my mother found it funny, but I remember my Dad grabbing me in his bedroom lecturing me telling me not pull that shit again.

Are you on the dad's side? Are you on my side? Are you neutral? Do you have some other comment. Please leave what you think.

Thoughts?

[Quahog]

I'm gonna respectfully disagree with you. I find this very cute and a step forward towards getting rid of gender roles and what's male and female. I'm sorry you didn't have an accepting father, but that's not a valid argument in that regard.

You do make up some good points however.

I wouldn't be suprised if the Dad was Bisexual himself. Due to his open mindedness with his son blatantly picking out a princess costume. Saying that he's gonna cross dress with his son is very interesting to say.

About the going out on Halloween night, and basically understanding that he's possibly going to want to dress up again when Halloween is over, that part does scare me and I see your point.

[dxcxdzv]

LGBT =/= the son's choice =/= the attention the father was expecting.

If the kid really wanted to be dressed like a princess, good for him.
Fore sure "close-minded people" are an issue, and I think it will motive a majority of dads in the same situation to "force" their kids to be dressed in masculine costumes but hey, it's Halloween, not school or work. Let it be.

[Stronk Serb]

War zum fick?! O_O
Still, why the attention whoring?

[James Dean]

War zum fick?! O_O
Still, why the attention whoring?

Thank you.

LGBT =/= the son's choice =/= the attention the father was expecting.

If the kid really wanted to be dressed like a princess, good for him.
Fore sure "close-minded people" are an issue, and I think it will motive a majority of dads in the same situation to "force" their kids to be dressed in masculine costumes but hey, it's Halloween, not school or work. Let it be.

We can agree to disagree. To me this has a lot to do with gender labels and sexuality as little boys just do not dress up as princesses on Halloween, and if they do, whether it is positive or negative attention, it's going to be seen as unusual and abnormal. So in my opinion, the Dad knew what he was doing and knew it was going to cause attention by posting it online.

Yeah the boy picked out the costume on his own yes, but he picked out a dress meaning that deep down, that's what he wants to be. You dress up as batman, you want to be batman, you dress up as a fireman, you want to be a fireman, you dress up like the princess from frozen, that's what you want to be.

So who is to say he's not gonna want to wear a dress to school, or later on? We don't know. You give a kid a nintendo video game, he's gonna want to take it to school to show it off to his friends. That's just how it works.

The Dad is eventually going to have to put his foot down.

[Emerald Dream]

I don't see a problem either way. Even if the dad is just looking for attention (and trust me, I'm admittedly pretty cynical about the motives of many people in this world) - it's still bringing a lot of awareness to something that should be accepted anyways.

I mean...seriously, even if you disagree with it - let a child be happy and pretend they are whatever they want to be.

[dxcxdzv]

Yeah the boy picked out the costume on his own yes, but he picked out a dress meaning that deep down, that's what he wants to be.
Eeehhh... nope! ^^
He just thinks it's nice, that's all. You are not going to build all a psychological profile with a single costume at Halloween.
I remind you that it is a kid and most of his wishes are based on short term desires, impressions or memories.

[Uranus]

And I'm pretty sure everyone would make a huge debate over a girl wearing male jeans halfway down her ass like a guys do

[Karkat]

I disagree. As someone who is part of the T in LGBT, had I been allowed to dress in "boy clothes", I would've loved it.

And even though I didn't, people still called me faggot. Tbh I think making your child suppress that is more babying than anything. Showing your support is the best way to go imo

[Melodic]

I disagree with you. From what I've seen, a lot of parents with little ones do tend to post about their kids on social media. This dad looks like he's just supporting his kid. What I think is messed up about this is that it's so rare that he did support his son's costume choice so it made a news story. It should be a common thing, it's 2015.

[Sailor Mars]

The kid is like 6 wtf let him do whatever the fuck he wants. It's halloween ffs yall need to stop arguing about how deep down he's transgender or how the dad is seeking attention. Honestly, what do you post things on social media for? So they get attention. smh let the kid pretend and grow up to be whatever tf he wants

[thatcountrykid]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/virginia-boy-elsa-frozen-halloween-article-1.2389186




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image (http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2015/10/08/13/elsa-facbook-post.jpg)

I was surprised nobody brought this story up yet as it has gone viral pretty much. The picture and facebook status came out last Friday.

I'm going to be devil's advocate. As a gay person, I'm not hating on this event and if the son wants to be Elsa, that's great. But I see an issue with this.

So basically a Dad takes his son halloween costume shopping. The son tells the Dad that he wants to be Elsa from Disney's Frozen.

Instead of what usually Dad's do, which is tell the son Hell No and prompt him to pick out a masculine and male orientated costume, the Dad accepts this and instead takes a photo of it, and posts it on social media.

Where my issue is, I think the Dad is looking for attention, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was anti gay, or anti gender roles before this situation.

I'm sure when his Son picked out a dress, all he thought of was the likes and retweets he was going to get by his so called born again LGBT support.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy for this story, yet I have to play devil's advocate.

What if he takes the kid out and other boys get jealous because they weren't allowed to dress as a Disney Princess.

Say he takes the boy trick or treating and another boy beats him up? Is he going to sue that boy's parents?

What happens when he wants to start to wear dresses at school?

He's a minor and he doesn't know how closed minded America is. That father just basically contracted himself. He said children have to grow up, yet basically admitted he's gonna baby his son if he wants to be dress female. Smh.

I don't know, maybe I'm just jealous. I remember when I was six for independence day party we had company over, I wore my mother's high heels and her wig and my mother found it funny, but I remember my Dad grabbing me in his bedroom lecturing me telling me not pull that shit again.

Are you on the dad's side? Are you on my side? Are you neutral? Do you have some other comment. Please leave what you think.

Thoughts?

So you're mad he's not anti gay?

I'd say he's looking to spread a good message more than anything and isn't just looking for attention.

I'm gonna respectfully disagree with you. I find this very cute and a step forward towards getting rid of gender roles and what's male and female. I'm sorry you didn't have an accepting father, but that's not a valid argument in that regard.

You do make up some good points however.

I wouldn't be suprised if the Dad was Bisexual himself. Due to his open mindedness with his son blatantly picking out a princess costume. Saying that he's gonna cross dress with his son is very interesting to say.

About the going out on Halloween night, and basically understanding that he's possibly going to want to dress up again when Halloween is over, that part does scare me and I see your point.

So being willing to be a good dad and have fun with his kid makes him bi sexual?

I mean I saw a guy dress up as a super hero with his son the other day does that make him superman?

Posts merged. Next time, please use the "Edit" or "Multi" button. ~Elysium

[Elysium]

Things don't go viral because you intend for them to go viral, particularly Facebook posts on your own account. The father sharing this detail of his life with his friends and family over Facebook is understandable - spreading awareness, promote understanding and tolerance, etc., which is all very respectable and hey, what else are you really doing with Facebook if not sharing details about your life in some fashion? The fact that it went viral can't really be taken into account when considering the ethics of the situation... That's not really something within anyone's control. Bodega Bamz is totally right; you post things on social media to put your voice out there and get attention and personally, I don't think people should be criticized for that. Besides, the father probably wasn't expecting this much attention.

[phuckphace]

"Dad" sounds like an emasculated weirdo. you can tell by the wording that he intended for it to attract attention ("KEEP YOUR UGH BULLSHIT OPINIONS 2 URSELVES BIGOTS") so right away you know all sorts of weirdness goes down in that house. chances of him having a Grindr account = 95%

"Caiden" is also the most eye-wateringly millennial name I've seen in a while. this is exactly what happens when children have children of their own

[Babs]

That's nice and all, but I don't see how it's newsworthy.

[ObliviousCat]

Say he takes the boy trick or treating and another boy beats him up? Is he going to sue that boy's parents?

Do you really think the father is going to leave his child unsupervised while he goes trick or treating? Do you think he'd actually stand by and let his son get beat up? If this father is responsible, this isn't going to happen...if it does, it's not the son's fault and it's not because the father allowed his son to dress up as a Disney princess. It's because the parent was being irresponsible.

What happens when he wants to start to wear dresses at school?

Most schools won't go for that, and it has nothing to do with gender, but appropriate attire in a school setting. Throughout pre-school, primary and secondary school, public schools have either mandatory uniforms or a dress code that needs to be followed. Girls can't wear revealing tops and/or bottoms, formal attire (dresses and tuxedos) isn't allowed unless you're attending a formal event, neither gender can wear denim, etc. I think it's pretty safe to say that nothing will happen if he wears a dress to school, besides him getting sent home or needing to change clothes.

[StoppingTom]

I was wondering what this week's edition of "Who Cares Because It Probably Doesn't Impact Your Life In Any Meaningful Way" would be.

[phuckphace]

[...]"Who Cares Because It Probably Doesn't Impact Your Life In Any Meaningful Way"[...]

the clownworld philosophy in a nutshell

[Jaffe]

I was wondering what this week's edition of "Who Cares Because It Probably Doesn't Impact Your Life In Any Meaningful Way" would be.

^^ This ^^ But without the word "probably"

[StoppingTom]

the clownworld philosophy in a nutshell

I mean, I didn't wake up this morning with my life radically altered by some kid in a dress. The downfall of society will ~most likely~ not be at the hands of a kid in a dress. He's not the first little boy to wear a dress (in fact it used to be pretty common for little boys to wear girlish clothes i.e baby pictures of FDR) and he probably won't be the last.

It just seems to be much ado about nothing.

[phuckphace]

I mean, I didn't wake up this morning with my life radically altered by some kid in a dress. The downfall of society will ~most likely~ not be at the hands of a kid in a dress. He's not the first little boy to wear a dress (in fact it used to be pretty common for little boys to wear girlish clothes i.e baby pictures of FDR) and he probably won't be the last.

It just seems to be much ado about nothing.

little boys used to wear skirts because adult clothing in the era had a lot of laces and buttons and what-not that were difficult for young children to do/undo. hardly the same thing as a millennial screwup dressing his kid as a ~*princess*~ and bigots need to DEAL WITH IT

Victorian era boys still grew up to be racist shitlords anyway so it's cool

[Exocet]

It amazes me how this world is really fcked up.
I am afraid of the future generations.

[phuckphace]

It amazes me how this world is really fcked up.
I am afraid of the future generations.

by 2100 male testicles will be vestigial and women will reproduce asexually

[Exocet]

by 2100 male testicles will be vestigial and women will reproduce asexually

If there's no nuclear war before. :D

[Arkansasguy]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/virginia-boy-elsa-frozen-halloween-article-1.2389186




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image (http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2015/10/08/13/elsa-facbook-post.jpg)

I was surprised nobody brought this story up yet as it has gone viral pretty much. The picture and facebook status came out last Friday.

I'm going to be devil's advocate. As a gay person, I'm not hating on this event and if the son wants to be Elsa, that's great. But I see an issue with this.

So basically a Dad takes his son halloween costume shopping. The son tells the Dad that he wants to be Elsa from Disney's Frozen.

Instead of what usually Dad's do, which is tell the son Hell No and prompt him to pick out a masculine and male orientated costume, the Dad accepts this and instead takes a photo of it, and posts it on social media.

Where my issue is, I think the Dad is looking for attention, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was anti gay, or anti gender roles before this situation.

I'm sure when his Son picked out a dress, all he thought of was the likes and retweets he was going to get by his so called born again LGBT support.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy for this story, yet I have to play devil's advocate.

What if he takes the kid out and other boys get jealous because they weren't allowed to dress as a Disney Princess.

Say he takes the boy trick or treating and another boy beats him up? Is he going to sue that boy's parents?

What happens when he wants to start to wear dresses at school?

He's a minor and he doesn't know how closed minded America is. That father just basically contracted himself. He said children have to grow up, yet basically admitted he's gonna baby his son if he wants to be dress female. Smh.

I don't know, maybe I'm just jealous. I remember when I was six for independence day party we had company over, I wore my mother's high heels and her wig and my mother found it funny, but I remember my Dad grabbing me in his bedroom lecturing me telling me not pull that shit again.

Are you on the dad's side? Are you on my side? Are you neutral? Do you have some other comment. Please leave what you think.

Thoughts?

Poor kid. The "dad" sounds like one of those creeps who'll "allow" his son to take hormone blockers when he's older.