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KimuraWannabe116
February 3rd, 2014, 03:43 PM
How serious of a situation is it in your opinion, and should it be treated as a crime at any extent depending on the severity of the incident? i.e. Gang jumps, cyber insults, suicide etc.
Zachary G
February 3rd, 2014, 03:49 PM
bullying should be treated on a case by case basis, for example: if a kid is bullied at school and kills himself, the bully or bullies should get in trouble for that; cyber bullying should be handled by the parents, because its their job to supervise what their kids do online; gang bullying and jumping should be handled by the police and the kids should be charged for whatever harm they caused. Thats just my two cents
LouBerry
February 3rd, 2014, 03:59 PM
How serious of a situation is it in your opinion, and should it be treated as a crime at any extent depending on the severity of the incident? i.e. Gang jumps, cyber insults, suicide etc.
Bullying is a very serious situation. It should be treated as a serious crime involving time spent in prison or a juvenile detention center, no matter what degree of bullying occurred. It doesn't matter if some 14 year old called another student fat on the internet, of if a gang of 20 year olds beat the shit out of a kid. Bullying is serious and it's about damn time it got treated that way.
Croconaw
February 3rd, 2014, 04:07 PM
Bullying is a very serious situation. It should be treated as a serious crime involving time spent in prison or a juvenile detention center, no matter what degree of bullying occurred. It doesn't matter if some 14 year old called another student fat on the internet, of if a gang of 20 year olds beat the shit out of a kid. Bullying is serious and it's about damn time it got treated that way.I agree with this. When students are being bullied, the teachers don't do anything about it. Bullies should be taught a lesson regardless of how severe the bullying is. It's ridiculous how many schools claim they're a bully free school when in reality, there's no such thing. Bullies are everywhere and it sucks, but they're just a part of life.
Tarannosaurus
February 3rd, 2014, 05:47 PM
Bullying is a very serious situation. It should be treated as a serious crime involving time spent in prison or a juvenile detention center, no matter what degree of bullying occurred. It doesn't matter if some 14 year old called another student fat on the internet, of if a gang of 20 year olds beat the shit out of a kid. Bullying is serious and it's about damn time it got treated that way.
^Yes all of this. Bullying is a horrible thing and it's estimated that something like 90% of people between the ages of 5 and 80 feel that they have been bullied at least once. Elizabeth said it really well.
There's one thing I would like to say about it personally: it's important to be against bullying, just make sure you yourself aren't bullying someone without realising it. With basically everyone being bullied, some of these people that feel they are being bullied must be doing some of the bullying themselves.
AlexOnToast
February 3rd, 2014, 05:49 PM
With basically everyone being bullied, some of these people that feel they are being bullied must be doing some of the bullying themselves.
Now THERE'S a thought....
WaffleSingSong
February 3rd, 2014, 05:56 PM
Bullying is a very serious situation. It should be treated as a serious crime involving time spent in prison or a juvenile detention center, no matter what degree of bullying occurred. It doesn't matter if some 14 year old called another student fat on the internet, of if a gang of 20 year olds beat the shit out of a kid. Bullying is serious and it's about damn time it got treated that way.
Now, I agree with the fact that Bullying is a serious problem and that it is definitely something that needs to be addressed in schools. But it is not like we can make a bully-free world. If some kid called names of someone on the internet or something as minor as that, some kids need to learn to keep a stiff upper lip. Life is hard, no matter how hard you try to mask it, and if some kid is going to cry everytime there bullied they will never live in the real world, which could be said is even more bully-filled than school life. Also, there is no exact way to find out how to exactly stop bullying from happening without being overbearingly draconian on a teenagers personal life, which is arguably there most important part of there life in developing there character.
I know, bullying sucks. It does and everyone has been a part of it one time or another, and even on both ends of the stick, and I know I have many a time. However, its a part of growing up, and most people who bully on occasion typically fall behind in life anywhom, or at least regret it deeply. I used to be bullied, but its something later on you just learn to ignore, and once you do, it typically goes away. However, when it comes to the point of a kid about to commit suicide, that's when authorities should step in.
xChrisVx
February 3rd, 2014, 06:52 PM
*Steps up onto soapbox*
I just want to make clear, this is going to be a long post. I'm not looking for a sympathy vote, but I just want to share my experiences of bullying with you.
I went to one of these schools which claimed to have a 'bully rate' of less than 5%. To be honest, I've never heard so much bullshit in my life!. In a period of two years, I was attacked several times. You name it, its probably happened to me. I've almost had my head smashed off a streetlight, I've been thrown against walls by my neck and had my head split open... All during school hours.
Even when I was in Primary school, I was bullied. The OP mentioned cyber insults... Try this! When I was 10, a group of acquaintances created a Bebo page about me - without my knowledge and consent - which contained some very derogatory comments about me.
So I hear you ask: 'What was done about it?'
I'll tell you... Absolutely nothing.
At Primary school, according to the Head Teacher, I brought it upon myself. I was too much of a social outcast. I didn't mix with the others in my class. Fortunately for me, that bebo page was shut down. But the head teacher was so spineless that he didn't allow me to see the comments that were made. At high school, I was told that my safety could not be guaranteed after my head was smashed off a bench inside the school. I really could not believe it! "We cannot guarantee your son's safety at our school." I thought that was one of the principal aims of a school... to guarantee the safety of its pupils.
But, do I regret not moving school despite being given so many opportunities and reasons to do so? Absolutely not!
You may think that I was mad staying in the same school as the people who harassed and assaulted me, but I had my reasons.
To me, moving school meant that the bullies had won. For as long as it didn't affect my school work, I was determined to stay where I was. I was going to show that I wouldn't be pushed over by a few people calling me names or punching me. I wasn't going to give them the satisfaction of scaring me into submission.
Another way to look at it is that without the bullying, I wouldn't be the same person I am today. What have I achieved? Uni at 17, Great exam grades, perseverance and confidence (put it this way, I'm not phased speaking infront of a packed hall). I attribute some of these achievements to the experience of being bullied.
So my opinion on bullying? Kids will be kids, there will always be the odd tussle or name calling. But when things get so out of hand that there are fights every day, then something needs to be done. I think the problem was exacerbated by the 'you can't touch me, I've got rights' mentality. Well yes, you have rights but you also have responsibilities. Kids know that the school can do nothing to combat their behaviour. Teacher's can't belt kids now, they can't punish bullies effectively. What does a few days suspension teach them? Nothing! Most bullies treat it like a holiday, not a punishment. Where things get really bad, I would do what I did. Just get the police involved. The school didn't like it, tough shit! They should have done more to protect me. But after that one time my parents and I involved the police, trust me, I was hardly ever bothered again.
I will now end my rant. There will always be bullies. That's life. But kids should not have to put up with the constant harassment and fear that bullies spread.
LouBerry
February 3rd, 2014, 08:19 PM
Now, I agree with the fact that Bullying is a serious problem and that it is definitely something that needs to be addressed in schools. But it is not like we can make a bully-free world. If some kid called names of someone on the internet or something as minor as that, some kids need to learn to keep a stiff upper lip. Life is hard, no matter how hard you try to mask it, and if some kid is going to cry everytime there bullied they will never live in the real world, which could be said is even more bully-filled than school life. Also, there is no exact way to find out how to exactly stop bullying from happening without being overbearingly draconian on a teenagers personal life, which is arguably there most important part of there life in developing there character.
I know, bullying sucks. It does and everyone has been a part of it one time or another, and even on both ends of the stick, and I know I have many a time. However, its a part of growing up, and most people who bully on occasion typically fall behind in life anywhom, or at least regret it deeply. I used to be bullied, but its something later on you just learn to ignore, and once you do, it typically goes away. However, when it comes to the point of a kid about to commit suicide, that's when authorities should step in.
Where exactly would you draw the line, then? When a child is dead? How the Hell are the authorities going to know when someone is "about" to commit suicide. This whole post is making me literally sick to my stomach.
Typhlosion
February 3rd, 2014, 09:39 PM
Bullying is both overrated and underrated.
It's underrated.
*Steps up onto soapbox*
You name it, its probably happened to me. I've almost had my head smashed off a streetlight, I've been thrown against walls by my neck and had my head split open... All during school hours.
It's overrated.
It should be treated as a serious crime involving time spent in prison or a juvenile detention center, no matter what degree of bullying occurred. It doesn't matter if some 14 year old called another student fat on the internet
"Where exactly would you draw the line, then?" - Louberry
Where the adult line is, I think. I don't see why child-to-child assault isn't punishable by law. But in preventing that, the problem gets bigger.
Kids will be kids. Bullies will be bullies. Period. We cannot change the whole human behaviour from birth. Punches will be given, tying you in a rope and throw you around the whole court will happen (how I loved it). They're part of a child's development. It is also part of a child's development to learn not to do that.
I don't want to generalize bullies as children of abusive parents or parents that abuse one another, but it's possible. The parents might not give a damn. Maybe they don't know how to deal with it. The parents barely see their kin. The parents don't know. So, who else is going to solve it?
Schools? Not their job. Sorry, not their job. Schools can only go so far. Detention and suspension may or may not help. Call the parents, shout at the children. Expulsion is a headache for too many parties. Get an authorized supervisor for such purpose? Nice idea, hard implementation. (I still like it)
So where would we draw the line? If a kid punches another, any officer would shrug it off. Repeatedly? Okay, but for long? Proof? How hard? Bruises, broken bones or other medical conditions? How would we draw the line at all? "An area greater than 10 cm² of contusions, broken bones or psychological, mental and/or physical conditions* (see list)".
But there should be a minimum as well. Come on, Todd wasn't the brightest at all. Show your underage boobies on cam? Genius. Killed yourself because people called you names on the internet. And beat to the ground as well.
I've been thrown against walls by my neck Sorry Todd, that is nothing.
What I'm trying to say is that kids will be kids, there's a point between serious abuse and just manning up. How? It's complicated, especially when some level of tolerance should be included. Headache.
By the way...
It's ridiculous how many schools claim they're a bully free school when in reality, there's no such thing.
In my 10 years of school, only one year I was bullied. They exist.
Etcetera
February 3rd, 2014, 09:40 PM
Bullying is one of my ranting subjects. Some people rant on abortion or homosexuality (the TRUE homophobics) or other stuff, but that's bullying for me.
Let me tell you a story.
I've been bullied since I began school. And it's not just been the picking or random insults that are basically inevitable. It was other stuff. It started out kids were picking on me and mocking me for my speech problem (which I still struggle with now, over 12 years later.) Then it progressed. It eventually became cyber-bullying, and happening at school as well. This kid who was supposedly my friend was dared by someone else to ask out the ugliest girl in school, so he asked me if I would go out with him. That destroyed me on the inside.
In 7th grade a kid kept telling me repeatedly that I needed to get lypo-suction because I was fatter than a whale. That was when I began cutting, because of the bully and some other events. High school was absolutely horrible. Freshman year I was assaulted by a bully, it was so bad that ended up in the hospital because it sent me into a seizure. Sophomore year my self-harm progressed to starving myself and then junior year, a kid in my biology class took a video of me having a seizure in class and it went viral throughout the school.
A kid bullying someone to the point that they commit suicide is MURDER. Bullying someone so much that they attempt suicide should be treated as an attempted murder. People don't realize just how serious it is until it's too late to do anything.
I could go on and on and on. I've seen so much bullying that it just makes me want to go off on everyone and show them what we really experience.
Did you know that:
- One in four kids in the U.S. are bullied on a regular basis
- One in four young people will not only think about suicide, but have a detailed plan of how they want to do it before they even graduate high school
- In 2012, studies showed that 1 in 12 kids attempted suicide because of bullying, and that number has done nothing but rise in the past year
There will always be bullies. That's life. But kids should not have to put up with the constant harassment and fear that bullies spread.
Absolutely. Over 200,000 kids across the globe don't go to school each day because they are terrified.
Now, I agree with the fact that Bullying is a serious problem and that it is definitely something that needs to be addressed in schools. But it is not like we can make a bully-free world. .
No, but we can try instead of sitting back and watching it happening and doing absolutely nothing but saying "kids can be cruel."
They wouldn't be cruel if they were taught respect and dignity for others.
When I have kids they are going to have some respect for people. They will treat everyone the same.
thatcountrykid
February 3rd, 2014, 10:10 PM
Bullying could never be punishable by jail time unless the bully was charged with harassment, assault, maybe attempted murder If the beating is severe enough. No one can be charged with someone else's suicide because it is their choice.
I think a lot of people really need to grow up and stop freaking out over little things. Life ain't always gonna be easy and people are jerks so you need to rub some dirt on it, stare straight ahead and walk on.
Etcetera
February 3rd, 2014, 10:11 PM
Bullying could never be punishable by jail time unless the bully was charged with harassment, assault, maybe attempted murder If the beating is severe enough. No one can be charged with someone else's suicide because it is their choice.
I think a lot of people really need to grow up and stop freaking out over little things. Life ain't always gonna be easy and people are jerks so you need to rub some dirt on it, stare straight ahead and walk on.
Some things cannot and should not be ignored.
thatcountrykid
February 3rd, 2014, 10:28 PM
Some things cannot and should not be ignored.
Everything can be ignored and some have to because there is nothing you can do about it and if you really wanna do something about it knock your bully to the ground. Don't walk away. Don't tell an adult because it doesn't help.
Etcetera
February 3rd, 2014, 11:00 PM
Everything can be ignored and some have to because there is nothing you can do about it and if you really wanna do something about it knock your bully to the ground. Don't walk away. Don't tell an adult because it doesn't help.
Telling an adult does help, because I did it. You have to find the right adult.
Everything cannot be ignored. That's ridiculous. And retaliating makes you nothing but a bully as well. Defend yourself enough to get away and then get it taken care of. Ignoring it is not right, and we shouldn't be expected to do so.
I am actually a co-founder of an anti-bullying organization called Society of People Against Bullying and Suicide. I know what I'm talking about, I've been bullied all my life, it is a problem and it needs to be stopped.
thatcountrykid
February 3rd, 2014, 11:04 PM
Telling an adult does help, because I did it. You have to find the right adult.
Everything cannot be ignored. That's ridiculous. And retaliating makes you nothing but a bully as well. Defend yourself enough to get away and then get it taken care of. Ignoring it is not right, and we shouldn't be expected to do so.
I am actually a co-founder of an anti-bullying organization called Society of People Against Bullying and Suicide. I know what I'm talking about, I've been bullied all my life, it is a problem and it needs to be stopped.
Telling anyone doesn't help. I have have told adults about what was happening and they did nothing so you know what I did. I fought that kid and I beat him. He never messed with me again. Bullying will never end because there will always be people who think they're better than you and want to put you down for no reason.
Etcetera
February 3rd, 2014, 11:08 PM
Telling anyone doesn't help. I have have told adults about what was happening and they did nothing so you know what I did. I fought that kid and I beat him. He never messed with me again. Bullying will never end because there will always be people who think they're better than you and want to put you down for no reason.
Listen, when I was jumped I told two teachers and nothing was done okay? The video? Nothing. But I didn't stop, I wouldn't give up and I was either going to make it stop or go down screaming and hollering. And eventually I did get help.
Bullying happens because people aren't treated nice and with respect. It's a constant cycle and circle that never ends. Until we band together to end it. Not this mentality of "grow a backbone" or "beat the crap out of them as revenge."
No, that's not the point. The point is to respect.
thatcountrykid
February 3rd, 2014, 11:14 PM
Listen, when I was jumped I told two teachers and nothing was done okay? The video? Nothing. But I didn't stop, I wouldn't give up and I was either going to make it stop or go down screaming and hollering. And eventually I did get help.
Bullying happens because people aren't treated nice and with respect. It's a constant cycle and circle that never ends. Until we band together to end it. Not this mentality of "grow a backbone" or "beat the crap out of them as revenge."
No, that's not the point. The point is to respect.
I didn't do it for revenge. I did it to stop it. I'm not saying be a heartless person but people can't be so sensitive. People will never agree to the same thing. Competition is in our instinct so people will always be doing what they cannot run others down. Crap happens in life and when someone is fifty years old they can't run to somebody and whine and moan that "jimmy was mean to me."
WaffleSingSong
February 3rd, 2014, 11:23 PM
Where exactly would you draw the line, then? When a child is dead? How the Hell are the authorities going to know when someone is "about" to commit suicide. This whole post is making me literally sick to my stomach.
Start with common depression symptoms, such as loneliness, (especially desiring to be alone) poor grades, don't care attitude, fatigue, lack of after-school activities, obesity or anorexia, ect (I know that these don't always mean depression, but most people who are depressed have at least a few of these traits)
Then let a teacher communicate with there parents to make sure if everything is alright with there child. If the parents say yes, then they should just tell them that the student has a few of these traits and leave them alone. If they say that there child is acting depressed, indifferent and emotional, then let the teacher pay attention to the child during schooltime. If no traces appear over time, then the teacher should just forget about it. If there is all of a sudden a mental breakdown or if an instance of bullying does happen when the teacher is watching, then they should try to calm down the situation and then consult the kid about the situation if they can, and the school should try to deal with the situation the best way they can afterwards.
However, its hard to exactly punish a bully. Things such as suspension, detention and lowering there grades because of conduct are things that really do not effect the bully if they are an occasional one, and doing draconian things such as expulsion and manual labor makes parents pissed, and most of the time does not really change the bully, rather just isolates them from society. Alternate schools are another idea, but they generally make bullying students even worse than before.
Also, you have to think about the one being bullied. What if they do not want to help and want to be left alone? Forcing them to talk and to consulate about the dilemma might make them even more depressed. Also, think about what put them in the spot there in. My guess is that about 75/25 are innocent and really did not do anything directly to be bullied. But sometimes, the bullied used to be the bully, and you could say that the bully now is just the "monster created by the monster." Or the bullied did something stupid themselves (such as Amanda Todd, which that whole ordeal started because she flashed at a guy online that blackmailed her to give her a show, and you know the rest.) What do you do then? Can you punish the bullied too? Should they pay for there actions just like the bully? Or will you let them slide, arguably with no sense of justice in the matter?
Bullying is complex, and that's because we are delving into human nature itself, which takes thousands of years to develop. Bullying is simply just a part of nature, And even though people try there best to stop it, its pretty much an inevitable part of school life that you are GOING to go though whether you like it or not, and it gets even worse when you go out into the real world. That's why children need to learn to keep a stiff upper lip and to remind themselves that there is always light at the end of the tunnel if you work hard to get to there.
To be bullied is suffering, Life is suffering. To be bullied is life. It sucks, it really does, but Social Darwinism ultimately reigns supreme on this topic.
Lovelife090994
February 4th, 2014, 01:15 AM
To me when bullying gets physical to fighting and beating then legal actions must be taken. However what we all failt to address is how you can't make a bully-free world and that telling bullies that they are worthless scum may only be doing more harm. Bullies are not bullies by birth, we all deal with stuff. Hasn't anyone ever tried uncovering the causes to a bully's want to be a bully?
Lovelife090994
February 4th, 2014, 01:18 AM
Where exactly would you draw the line, then? When a child is dead? How the Hell are the authorities going to know when someone is "about" to commit suicide. This whole post is making me literally sick to my stomach.
May I Lou Berry? I would stop the bullying before suicide is an issue. Parents need to be in mind of any emotional changes. And I would not blame suicide on the bully or one person who was snide once. Bullies have issues too. No one is born a bully. I think lines should be drawn but not at every little thing. Bullying would be hard to criminalize since bullies are everywhere. Is it illegal to be a mean person or to not be big on people? Where do you say "no" and when? I was bullied myself but I would never wish horror to any of those past bullies.
Korashk
February 4th, 2014, 02:27 AM
The concept of real-life bullying is too vague and varied a concept to punish with the legal system. If you're being physically beaten that's battery and you should contact the authorities or get a lawyer and sue. Same with other forms of harassment. Bullying is already indirectly illegal, it's not the legal system's fault that people don't exercise their prerogative to do something about it.
As for cyber-bullying, just close the tab. It isn't hard. Cyber-bullying as a concept is driven by its supposed victims that are too lazy to make it stop.
Zenos
February 4th, 2014, 03:04 AM
YAWN!!! I'm going to deal with the male on male aspect of bullying! the problem with bullying lies in the fact Female POP Psychologist back in the 90's routinely got on tv and touted their books on how to raise male children,saying that male children should be raised to be in touch with their emotions and should not be made to have to be tough and such,and the parents fell for it and rushed out and bought their crap books.
It's gotten worse since then, as well with such male ( I won't say manly) celebrities as the bands Black veil brides and Blood on the dance floor being touted as the ideal for youth the follow,combined with it being seen as cool and manly for males to be hyper emotional and thin as a rail and look feminine.And being brainwashed into believeing conflict is wrong and to thus run and tell the teacher.
All of this has in my belief lead to a generation of teenage males in which most are too weak ( physically and conviction wise and well and scared to actually stand up and physically fight the bully and make him stop themselves.
What is needed is for male teens to start toughening up,if that happened most bullying would end becasue they bully would know more then likely their behinds would be beat by the target!
Etcetera
February 4th, 2014, 05:39 PM
So my little brother came home from school crying. He has a learning disability, speech impediment, dyslexia, and ADHD. And the kids are picking on him and calling him gay and stuff. :/
Tarannosaurus
February 4th, 2014, 05:48 PM
So my little brother came home from school crying. He has a learning disability, speech impediment, dyslexia, and ADHD. And the kids are picking on him and calling him gay and stuff. :/
That's horrible, poor kid, kids can be so cruel. It's about time people educated themselves about learning disabilities and stopped being so ignorant. When your brother succeeds in life, they won't be the ones laughing.
thatcountrykid
February 4th, 2014, 07:09 PM
So my little brother came home from school crying. He has a learning disability, speech impediment, dyslexia, and ADHD. And the kids are picking on him and calling him gay and stuff. :/
Im sorry to hear that but theres an easy way to fix it. Dependibg on how young he is he can just walk away or stand up too em. They'll stop soon if he just ignores because then it wont be fun for em.
Etcetera
February 4th, 2014, 07:11 PM
Im sorry to hear that but theres an easy way to fix it. Dependibg on how young he is he can just walk away or stand up too em. They'll stop soon if he just ignores because then it wont be fun for em.
He's nine! And he's special!
Synyster Shadows
February 4th, 2014, 07:58 PM
YAWN!!! I'm going to deal with the male on male aspect of bullying! the problem with bullying lies in the fact Female POP Psychologist back in the 90's routinely got on tv and touted their books on how to raise male children,saying that male children should be raised to be in touch with their emotions and should not be made to have to be tough and such,and the parents fell for it and rushed out and bought their crap books.
It's gotten worse since then, as well with such male ( I won't say manly) celebrities as the bands Black veil brides and Blood on the dance floor being touted as the ideal for youth the follow,combined with it being seen as cool and manly for males to be hyper emotional and thin as a rail and look feminine.And being brainwashed into believeing conflict is wrong and to thus run and tell the teacher.
All of this has in my belief lead to a generation of teenage males in which most are too weak ( physically and conviction wise and well and scared to actually stand up and physically fight the bully and make him stop themselves.
What is needed is for male teens to start toughening up,if that happened most bullying would end becasue they bully would know more then likely their behinds would be beat by the target!
First off, that's sexist. You make it sound like guys have to be "macho," "manly", or whatever you want to call it. That is ridiculous. No one, and I mean no one should be scared to show their emotions. Granted, everyone should know how to grit their teeth and take some shit, but a line must be drawn. People can only take it for so long. I hid my emotions from people. The athletic guys always used to make fun of me and put me down. Other people laughed at me for various things. Yet more touched on nerves through stereotypes. I took it all and hid my emotions when I was really becoming weaker. I was doubting myself more and more. I still do struggle with it, but a matter of months ago, I was on the verge of physical self-harm in addition to my mental self-harm. I had my share of days when I wanted to cry my eyes out, but I couldn't. I wanted desperately to let it out. I would look to people for help, and that's what they'd say - let it out. Being emotional is natural. It makes us human. Everyone, regardless of gender should be able to express emotions without fear of being judged.
Next, conflict is bad, but does that make it completely wrong? No. If it were wrong, then everyone would be terrible people because conflicts occur all the time. As much as efforts could be made to stop it, conflict will never be gone from this world. It's instinct. Self-defense is the only justification of violence. But think about it - if the bullying had been occurring long enough, would it not be possible that the victim may want vengeance on the original aggressor, take things too far, and become the bully themselves? Using violence is a big risk as the feeling of making the former aggressor powerless may get to a person's head.
So my little brother came home from school crying. He has a learning disability, speech impediment, dyslexia, and ADHD. And the kids are picking on him and calling him gay and stuff. :/
That is the worst bullying-related thing I have ever seen! :pop2: I scrolled down a bit and saw his age. That is disgusting. I feel so angry. Nine years old! That is fucked up beyond anything else. This society makes me more and more cynical every day...
Poor kid...learning disability, sppech impediment, dyslexia, and ADHD?? That sucks, big time. If I found out that my kid was involved bullying on that level at that age, I'd never forgive them. That is terrible. Gay? No, just no. That's unacceptable. I don't even want to imagine what else the poor kid hears.
Etcetera
February 4th, 2014, 08:02 PM
That is the worst bullying-related thing I have ever seen! :pop2: I scrolled down a bit and saw his age. That is disgusting. I feel so angry. Nine years old! That is fucked up beyond anything else. This society makes me more and more cynical every day...
Poor kid...learning disability, sppech impediment, dyslexia, and ADHD?? That sucks, big time. If I found out that my kid was involved bullying on that level at that age, I'd never forgive them. That is terrible. Gay? No, just no. That's unacceptable. I don't even want to imagine what else the poor kid hears.
He's told me all kinds of things they say to him. 90% of his school is hispanic, he's the only white kid in his class. One of the hispanic little boys in his class has been terrorizing him since day one this year and he's the ringleader of the name-calling. The same kid also told him "shut up, you evil shit" in spanish and my brother came home and asked me what it meant because I speak spanish too and I got so upset about that. It's just getting way out of hand. My dad is going to talk to the principal tomorrow.
Synyster Shadows
February 4th, 2014, 08:17 PM
He's told me all kinds of things they say to him. 90% of his school is hispanic, he's the only white kid in his class. One of the hispanic little boys in his class has been terrorizing him since day one this year and he's the ringleader of the name-calling. The same kid also told him "shut up, you evil shit" in spanish and my brother came home and asked me what it meant because I speak spanish too and I got so upset about that. It's just getting way out of hand. My dad is going to talk to the principal tomorrow.
That is disturbing. I can't believe bullying happens at such a young age. I know it does, but seriously, that's just even more terrible than when bullying occurs, as I've heard, anyways. I'm sure your younger brother is a good kid. That is terrible.
Etcetera
February 4th, 2014, 09:07 PM
That is disturbing. I can't believe bullying happens at such a young age. I know it does, but seriously, that's just even more terrible than when bullying occurs, as I've heard, anyways. I'm sure your younger brother is a good kid. That is terrible.
Mine started in kindergarten, for much the same reasons. I'm very defensive of my brother, so it makes me pretty mad.
thatcountrykid
February 4th, 2014, 09:18 PM
He's nine! And he's special!
Again im sorry and in that case then yes telling someone is best.
First off, that's sexist. You make it sound like guys have to be "macho," "manly", or whatever you want to call it. That is ridiculous. No one, and I mean no one should be scared to show their emotions. Granted, everyone should know how to grit their teeth and take some shit, but a line must be drawn. People can only take it for so long. I hid my emotions from people. The athletic guys always used to make fun of me and put me down. Other people laughed at me for various things. Yet more touched on nerves through stereotypes. I took it all and hid my emotions when I was really becoming weaker. I was doubting myself more and more. I still do struggle with it, but a matter of months ago, I was on the verge of physical self-harm in addition to my mental self-harm. I had my share of days when I wanted to cry my eyes out, but I couldn't. I wanted desperately to let it out. I would look to people for help, and that's what they'd say - let it out. Being emotional is natural. It makes us human. Everyone, regardless of gender should be able to express emotions without fear of being judged.
Next, conflict is bad, but does that make it completely wrong? No. If it were wrong, then everyone would be terrible people because conflicts occur all the time. As much as efforts could be made to stop it, conflict will never be gone from this world. It's instinct. Self-defense is the only justification of violence. But think about it - if the bullying had been occurring long enough, would it not be possible that the victim may want vengeance on the original aggressor, take things too far, and become the bully themselves? Using violence is a big risk as the feeling of making the former aggressor powerless may get to a person's head.
That is the worst bullying-related thing I have ever seen! :pop2: I scrolled down a bit and saw his age. That is disgusting. I feel so angry. Nine years old! That is fucked up beyond anything else. This society makes me more and more cynical every day...
Poor kid...learning disability, sppech impediment, dyslexia, and ADHD?? That sucks, big time. If I found out that my kid was involved bullying on that level at that age, I'd never forgive them. That is terrible. Gay? No, just no. That's unacceptable. I don't even want to imagine what else the poor kid hears.
Thats not exactly true. There are times when showig your emotions can hurt others or get others hurt.
Zenos
February 5th, 2014, 12:46 AM
First off, that's sexist. You make it sound like guys have to be "macho," "manly", or whatever you want to call it. That is ridiculous. No one, and I mean no one should be scared to show their emotions. Granted, everyone should know how to grit their teeth and take some shit, but a line must be drawn. People can only take it for so long. I hid my emotions from people. The athletic guys always used to make fun of me and put me down. Other people laughed at me for various things. Yet more touched on nerves through stereotypes. I took it all and hid my emotions when I was really becoming weaker. I was doubting myself more and more. I still do struggle with it, but a matter of months ago, I was on the verge of physical self-harm in addition to my mental self-harm. I had my share of days when I wanted to cry my eyes out, but I couldn't. I wanted desperately to let it out. I would look to people for help, and that's what they'd say - let it out. Being emotional is natural. It makes us human. Everyone, regardless of gender should be able to express emotions without fear of being judged.
Next, conflict is bad, but does that make it completely wrong? No. If it were wrong, then everyone would be terrible people because conflicts occur all the time. As much as efforts could be made to stop it, conflict will never be gone from this world. It's instinct. Self-defense is the only justification of violence. But think about it - if the bullying had been occurring long enough, would it not be possible that the victim may want vengeance on the original aggressor, take things too far, and become the bully themselves? Using violence is a big risk as the feeling of making the former aggressor powerless may get to a person's head.
That is the worst bullying-related thing I have ever seen! :pop2: I scrolled down a bit and saw his age. That is disgusting. I feel so angry. Nine years old! That is fucked up beyond anything else. This society makes me more and more cynical every day...
Poor kid...learning disability, sppech impediment, dyslexia, and ADHD?? That sucks, big time. If I found out that my kid was involved bullying on that level at that age, I'd never forgive them. That is terrible. Gay? No, just no. That's unacceptable. I don't even want to imagine what else the poor kid hears.
theres a difrence between a guy being macho (usually acting like a jerk) and being manly acting! and theres nothing wrong with being manly!
Synyster Shadows
February 5th, 2014, 06:03 AM
theres a difrence between a guy being macho (usually acting like a jerk) and being manly acting! and theres nothing wrong with being manly!
Clearly We aren't on the same page. How do you define manliness?
Synyster Shadows
February 5th, 2014, 06:06 AM
Mine started in kindergarten, for much the same reasons. I'm very defensive of my brother, so it makes me pretty mad.
That's disturbing. Kindergarten? Wow. I didn't know people could be so mean even at that age. But it's good to know you protect and support your brother. You're a good sister.
Etcetera
February 5th, 2014, 08:43 AM
That's disturbing. Kindergarten? Wow. I didn't know people could be so mean even at that age. But it's good to know you protect and support your brother. You're a good sister.
Well, I also have a speech problem, and am what people consider special.. so it was really bad. Just gets worse and worse over time.
PinkFloyd
February 5th, 2014, 11:06 AM
I think that each bullying case should be handed it's own way. If someone gets called a retard, then it's not as big a deal as someone getting like beaten up for their race and or sexuality, then it should be a much more important situation . That's how I see it.
liptonlee
February 5th, 2014, 12:03 PM
yes, bullying is bad. but it's a phase of life everyone has gone thru sometime. i think emotional manipulation is way more evil than physical intimidation.
Etcetera
February 5th, 2014, 02:23 PM
yes, bullying is bad. but it's a phase of life everyone has gone thru sometime.
You've fallen for it. You've taken the cake.
Synyster Shadows
February 5th, 2014, 06:31 PM
yes, bullying is bad. but it's a phase of life everyone has gone thru sometime.
You've fallen for it. You've taken the cake.
^This. Bullying, while common, is wrong. It should never be tolerated
Melodic
February 5th, 2014, 06:46 PM
I've seen a lot of bullying cases, and I agree, every single case of bullying is wrong. From abuse to words, it's all wrong. But there's only so much the school can do about it. They can't hold your hand down the hallway and make every single thing go away. They have a job to do as well. The harmful stuff is very wrong and should be taken care of, no matter what. The words however, is what we as students need to take care of and not let it affect us. We need to toughen up and go through it, because I can say from my own eyes, when we are adults there are still people that won't like us and will judge us. And at that point, we won't have a bigger person to help us, we'll be on our own. So we need to focus on how to make ourselves happier and more positive. Because in the end, those few opinions shouldn't matter unless they are the ones you love.
Etcetera
February 5th, 2014, 09:28 PM
^This. Bullying, while common, is wrong. It should never be tolerated
yeah and people excuse it like everyone experiences it so it's okay, but it aint.
Synyster Shadows
February 5th, 2014, 09:37 PM
Just because something is common doesn't mean it's acceptable. That's like saying murder is ok. It happens all the time, doesn't it? Yes. It is acceptable? Not in a million years. Bullying is the same way. Almost everyone experiences it, but does that make it ok? No. People kill themselves because they were bullied. No one should get away with that, ever.
WaffleSingSong
February 5th, 2014, 10:29 PM
Just because something is common doesn't mean it's acceptable. That's like saying murder is ok. It happens all the time, doesn't it? Yes. It is acceptable? Not in a million years. Bullying is the same way. Almost everyone experiences it, but does that make it ok? No. People kill themselves because they were bullied. No one should get away with that, ever.
It is never acceptable to be a bully, not at all. But the thing is it is a part of human nature to bully. Also, comparing murder with bullying is a horrible exaggeration (that's like comparing a fishbowl shark to a Great White,) and hardly any bullying leads to someone killing themselves. Also, murderers usually have something sick in the head with them anyways, while bullies are generally just mean. Murder is also, not at all accepted either when done in action, but we realize that murder, too, is a part of human life that is GOING to happen no matter what the circumstances. It's simply an inevitable part of life.
That, and taxes...
Desuetude
February 6th, 2014, 01:33 PM
I've been bullied ever since I was 7 and at that point I had just moved into junior school, all my friends had left me and I was actually terrifed of going to school. At the age of 7, that's pretty damn sick. When my mum found out what was going on she called the head, he sat both myself and the 2 girls down, forced us to 'make friends'. Of course, nothing changed and I transferred schools a couple months later.
There are so many different forms of bullying to different severities and each person has a limit on how much they can deal with. You might find one person takes name calling on the chin whereas someone else would break down. It's hard to deal with bullying. It's so easy for the victim to bottle it up and make it seem like it's not happening in fear that it will only get worse.
I definitely believe that people don't see the severity of bullying. It's more of a joke now. I've heard people use the phrase 's/he's bullying me!' in a jokey manner much too often, it's not considered a serious thing when it really should be. It makes you feel like shit and so drained, lowers your self esteem and like others have said it can lead to suicidal ideation or actual attempts. I'm fed up of people dismissing it as not being a problem because sure, it might happen a lot and it might be a little hard to keep track of but if schools were actually more aware of what was happening when teachers aren't around then they might have a better idea of how to deal with the different situtations.
I don't have any ideas on what should happen to the bullies, I mean it would all depend on the outcome of their victim and other factors in their lives I guess. It's hard to disattach the damage bullying causes from other things going on but it's often that bullying can tip a person over the edge. I think that teachers should be taught how to deal with different situations should they arise. I can't tell you how many times a teacher has heard some racist comment said to me and ignored it, the small ones like "nigger" or just the annoying "you're black" (I'm asian, so they just do it to annoy me) or bigger ones like "oh you're taking electronics because you want to make a bomb, you terrorist" or "are you osama bin ladens daughter?". Teachers just don't have any clue how to deal with stuff like this, either that or they just don't give a shit how it makes me feel and don't want to get involved. Yeah, I really think courses need to be set up for teachers. I know that's not even what the OP asked but I went on a bit of a ramble, sorry.
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