New computer build (WIP)

[Rallo]

close thread pls.
Deleted due to personal reasons.

[Rallo]

Updated thread layout + added images!

[Gopher]

there are some things here that make me sad...why would you cheap out on your GPU?

[Rallo]

there are some things here that make me sad...why would you cheap out on your GPU?

The RAM, GPU and Harddrive are from my old build, everything else is new.

The RAM is decent, but the other 2 will be upgraded soon. Right now the GPU gets the job done (~110FPS on low settings on League of Legends), though I'd prefer to get it over 100FPS on med-high settings so will upgrade that.

[CharlieHorse]

why do you need 4 pcix16 slots?

[Allison415]

Everything looks good except for the graphics card. That card sucks

[Rallo]

why do you need 4 pcix16 slots?


Only 2 run at x16 at the same time, for SLI/crossfire with high end graphics cards. At this point in time x16 is only JUST an advantage (2-3%) as even the highest end graphics cards can only just take advantage of the extra speed. That being said, the model down (with x16/x8 for SLI instead of x16/x16) was only $10 less, so i opted for this model instead.


If your question is more 'why do I need pcix slots', well the short answer is just in case.

[Rallo]

Everything looks good except for the graphics card. That card sucks

Yeah, it's quite terrible.
It (surprisingly) gets the job down currently though, just.
Games like League of Legends etc i'll get just over 100FPS on low settings. Higher up settings it drops down to maybe 40-50. The main problem right now with my graphics card comes in when streaming, it just can not keep up. Even desktop graphics (stacked windows (drop down menus), windows aero, etc etc) will lagg slightly while streaming, which is why I am planning on an upgrade to that.

[Camazotz]

What GPU will you be upgrading to?

Your case is really cool, but you definitely overspent on your PSU. Your whole rig won't even need 600 Watts after you get a higher-end GPU. That could've saved you over $100 for a better GPU/CPU.

[Sugaree]

The RAM, GPU and Harddrive are from my old build, everything else is new.

Wow, two out of three things you just DON'T do. You NEVER reuse old RAM or a GPU. A Hard drive, I can understand reusing if it's taken good care of. But...not RAM or GPU. Other components of the build seem fine, though.

[Rallo]

What GPU will you be upgrading to?

Your case is really cool, but you definitely overspent on your PSU. Your whole rig won't even need 600 Watts after you get a higher-end GPU. That could've saved you over $100 for a better GPU/CPU.
Most likely a GTX 760.

The CPU alone pulls 140W.
It already uses ~300W at stock OC (4.2Ghz) for the full computer. (have a power meter to test it)

That's with a 25W graphics card... Upgrade that to something like SLI 760s pulling 225W each and you're already using 725w. I most likely won't go with SLI ever (slightly over kill), but just in case.

The main reason I got it though was because it's known as being a highly reliable power supply and on top of that it had the features I needed. (modular cables, color theme was correct for build (not that it can be overly seen), has the correct cables for 2 mid-high end GPUs, etc).

[Rallo]

Wow, two out of three things you just DON'T do. You NEVER reuse old RAM or a GPU. A Hard drive, I can understand reusing if it's taken good care of. But...not RAM or GPU. Other components of the build seem fine, though.

I'm confused what point of view you're looking at this from, are you implying not to re use them because it will most likely be out dated or because it's a hazard to your other parts by reusing them?

The RAM is 1866Mhz 2x4gb kit, so it's amazing and will more then get the job done. As for the reusing, it's life time warranty; Not something you can overly expect to fail on you due to large amounts of use.

The GPU, as said earlier in the thread is outdated though I'm working on upgrading it. With the other side of it, if the graphics card does fail it's not usually something that will damage anything else in your computer; isn't usually a problem.


The ironic think with your post, the harddrive was one thing I SHOULD NOT have reused here, since I didn't reinstall the OS from scratch a fair few drivers were required for simple things like various USB devices to even work, quite an annoyance. Usually this isn't a problem, though due to my motherboards dual processors that deal with USB+Sata it was sadly required.

[Sugaree]

I'm confused what point of view you're looking at this from, are you implying not to re use them because it will most likely be out dated or because it's a hazard to your other parts by reusing them?


It's clearly a hazard, and I think you should have been able to at least think that over. As I said, the build is pretty fair, but, from my point of view, it's just a hazard to other parts to reuse old parts like that, no matter how good they might seem. If you want to keep them, then keep the entire machine.

[Camazotz]

Most likely a GTX 760.

The CPU alone pulls 140W.
It already uses ~300W at stock OC (4.2Ghz) for the full computer. (have a power meter to test it)

That's with a 25W graphics card... Upgrade that to something like SLI 760s pulling 225W each and you're already using 725w. I most likely won't go with SLI ever (slightly over kill), but just in case.

I have a GTX 760, it's a great graphics card, but it only needs 170 (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760/specifications) Watts. Using SLI is absolutely pointless since most games don't even utilize that feature for it to make a huge difference. You can stick with just the 760, and your whole rig would run under 600 W. But since it's already bought and it fits with the rest of your rig like the way you wanted, that's okay.

[Rallo]

I have a GTX 760, it's a great graphics card, but it only needs 170 (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760/specifications) Watts. Using SLI is absolutely pointless since most games don't even utilize that feature for it to make a huge difference. You can stick with just the 760, and your whole rig would run under 600 W. But since it's already bought and it fits with the rest of your rig like the way you wanted, that's okay.

Asus's GeForce GTX 760 II OC uses 225w. Depends completely on clocking, brand, etc.

But yeah, it won't be needed for a while, I more got it for the insane expandability though. Once I get a 760, at this point in time, it'll run any game at high settings with great FPS. However, give it ~5-10 years and it'll only be around a mid-low range graphics card. When that happens, find one on eBay somewhere, chuck it in and we're ready to go again. :yeah:
That's the theory behind my larger power supply anyway, though I may end up getting a more futuristic graphics card in the future. (maybe one with less power draw, ironically..). Ontop of the above, there's the factor of over clocking room. An fx-8350 will EASILY pull 160w with a ~4.5Ghz overclock. Put a water cooler on it and get it up to ~5Ghz and you'll be chewing almost 200w. :yes:

It was just more to ensure no matter what I chuck into my computer, it'll have more then enough power to power it. Also, a 750 was about $20 cheaper (for the same brand and model series) and a 450 about $50 cheaper, so I just thought "why the hell not". :yeah:

[CosmicNoodle]

You my friend, have just changed the case I am going to use for my new PC scedualed to be built in a few months.
The FX your using really is a badass CPU, the case, badass. Mose everything in there is a fairly good chouce but I think you should get a different GPu, the 610 is far too weak for the system you have buit, I think you should save up and move too a GTX 660SC or at best a GTX 760

My new build:
CPU: i5 or i7 4770K 3.4GHz (Overclokced to 4.2)
MoBo: MSI B85-G43 Gaming
GPU: Radion HD 77902GB Overclocked edition (OR A GTX 760 IF I HAVE THE CASH)
SSD: Kingston 128GB
Case: The same badass one your using now :)
RAM: Same as your using, G. Skill 8GB 1600Mhz 2x4GB
PSU: Modular Corsair builder series 600W

[Camazotz]

My new build:
CPU: i5 or i7 4770K 3.4GHz (Overclokced to 4.2)
MoBo: MSI B85-G43 Gaming
GPU: Radion HD 77902GB Overclocked edition (OR A GTX 760 IF I HAVE THE CASH)
SSD: Kingston 128GB
Case: The same badass one your using now :)
RAM: Same as your using, G. Skill 8GB 1600Mhz 2x4GB
PSU: Modular Corsair builder series 600W

Good build, but you're definitely going to need more storage on that- I'm assuming that you forgot to put a HDD. I'd go for the 1 TB Seagate Barracuda unless you think you need more than 1 TB (but I would stick with that brand- not the most expensive but definitely well made).

[CosmicNoodle]

Good build, but you're definitely going to need more storage on that- I'm assuming that you forgot to put a HDD. I'd go for the 1 TB Seagate Barracuda unless you think you need more than 1 TB (but I would stick with that brand- not the most expensive but definitely well made).

Your nearly right, I did forget to put the 1TB drive in. But its Western Digital Caviar Blue, not a Barracuda, from what I have heard the Barracuda drives are hit and miss.

[Rallo]

You my friend, have just changed the case I am going to use for my new PC scedualed to be built in a few months.
The FX your using really is a badass CPU, the case, badass.
The case looks simply amazing, though has got a few slight downsides.
The main problem, if you're like me and have your computer in your room, those blue lights can get annoying when you're trying to sleep. :P
The fans (with my motherboard at least) can be slowed/turned off (the LED brightness goes alongside fan speed, so slowing them dulls the LEDs) though the LEDs in the front vents are plugged straight into the power supply and aren't adjustable. For me personally, I tend to just put something in front of it for a simply problem solver, though if it's something that will seriously bother you consider buying a fan controller and plugging the front lights 4pin 12v connecter into it. You may need a 4pin 12v to 3pin fan header adapter, though they're like $2 on ebay. :yeah:

Mose everything in there is a fairly good chouce but I think you should get a different GPu, the 610 is far too weak for the system you have buit, I think you should save up and move too a GTX 660SC or at best a GTX 760

Already planning on upgrading to a 760 as soon as I get enough money. :yeah:


My new build:
CPU: i5 or i7 4770K 3.4GHz (Overclokced to 4.2)
MoBo: MSI B85-G43 Gaming
GPU: Radion HD 77902GB Overclocked edition (OR A GTX 760 IF I HAVE THE CASH)
SSD: Kingston 128GB
Case: The same badass one your using now :)
RAM: Same as your using, G. Skill 8GB 1600Mhz 2x4GB
PSU: Modular Corsair builder series 600W

Love the idea of an SSD, though like said in the above post I would either go for a 1TB harddrive alongside it.
Also, from any reviews I've seen and almost all benchmarks, Samsung's 840 pro series out performs almost all other SSDs in its price range (Assuming you're looking at a Kingston HyperX, it's double the speed). An 840 pro will usually cost ~$30-40 more than the Kingston SSDs, though has a fairly huge performance boost. If you're not willing to spend 30-40 more, an 840 Evo. In the real word, the difference between an Evo and Pro is actually not overly much unless you're going to be copying large files (in the 10s of GBs) daily.

Either the i7 4770k or an i5 3570k would be beastly for any kind of gaming, just careful with the temps on it though; even at stock overclocks those things can get in the 70-80s with those stock coolers.
With the power supply, can't say I'm personally a fan of that model, though it'd get the job done.

[CosmicNoodle]

The case looks simply amazing, though has got a few slight downsides.
The main problem, if you're like me and have your computer in your room, those blue lights can get annoying when you're trying to sleep. :P
The fans (with my motherboard at least) can be slowed/turned off (the LED brightness goes alongside fan speed, so slowing them dulls the LEDs) though the LEDs in the front vents are plugged straight into the power supply and aren't adjustable. For me personally, I tend to just put something in front of it for a simply problem solver, though if it's something that will seriously bother you consider buying a fan controller and plugging the front lights 4pin 12v connecter into it. You may need a 4pin 12v to 3pin fan header adapter, though they're like $2 on ebay. :yeah:


Already planning on upgrading to a 760 as soon as I get enough money. :yeah:



Love the idea of an SSD, though like said in the above post I would either go for a 1TB harddrive alongside it.
Also, from any reviews I've seen and almost all benchmarks, Samsung's 840 pro series out performs almost all other SSDs in its price range (Assuming you're looking at a Kingston HyperX, it's double the speed). An 840 pro will usually cost ~$30-40 more than the Kingston SSDs, though has a fairly huge performance boost. If you're not willing to spend 30-40 more, an 840 Evo. In the real word, the difference between an Evo and Pro is actually not overly much unless you're going to be copying large files (in the 10s of GBs) daily.

Either the i7 4770k or an i5 3570k would be beastly for any kind of gaming, just careful with the temps on it though; even at stock overclocks those things can get in the 70-80s with those stock coolers.
With the power supply, can't say I'm personally a fan of that model, though it'd get the job done.


Don't worry about the Case LED problems as I have had to change my case choice to co-inside with the red theme for the rest of it :(, now I'm using a Vantage Diablo Gamers Case. And thank god your changing the 610, sure the 760 is going to be a complete monster when it comes to running games, perhaps even in 4K if your that sort of gamer.
And Im also having a 1TB WD as well as the 128GB SSD, and your right, I am going to be using a 840 Evo SSD, I don't mind forking out an extra £20 for the little speed increase.
And I am reaallllllyyy looking forward to stretching the legs of the Core i(?)
that I use. Really run it in too see what sort of performance I can pull out of it. And Your right about the stock cooler, it's total crap. I forgot to mention the Corsair Hydro Series H55 I'm going to be using to keep it cool.

All I have to do now is wait the 6 months its going to take me to save up enough for this damn machine :)

[Rallo]

Don't worry about the Case LED problems as I have had to change my case choice to co-inside with the red theme for the rest of it :(, now I'm using a Vantage Diablo Gamers Case. And thank god your changing the 610, sure the 760 is going to be a complete monster when it comes to running games, perhaps even in 4K if your that sort of gamer.
And Im also having a 1TB WD as well as the 128GB SSD, and your right, I am going to be using a 840 Evo SSD, I don't mind forking out an extra £20 for the little speed increase.
And I am reaallllllyyy looking forward to stretching the legs of the Core i(?)
that I use. Really run it in too see what sort of performance I can pull out of it. And Your right about the stock cooler, it's total crap. I forgot to mention the Corsair Hydro Series H55 I'm going to be using to keep it cool.

All I have to do now is wait the 6 months its going to take me to save up enough for this damn machine :)

http://www.quietpc.com/images/products/ae-sycloneii-sides-red-large.jpg For the case, there's a red edition of mine? :yeah:
Edit: Aerocool Syclone II Red edition I believe it is.

With the SSD, the evo is probably the best option, pro is slightly over kill. The difference between an evo and most other SSDs is insane though.

Sadly, you almost need an after market cooler for intel's higher end gaming CPUs. That's actually one thing I loved about my 8350, the stock cooler keeps it at about 68 under full load at stock, 71-72 at 4.2Ghz turbo clock. Once you start pushing with overclocking it gets to around 75-76 at about 4.4Ghz, not personally someone who'd like to risk going any higher. Once I turn the case fans on, the CPU temp stays about 5-10lower then the above, so is even better.

[Rallo]

Updated parts list due to buying a 32GB SanDisk ReadyCache SSD.
Will add pictures+performance increase details in the future. (So far i'm impressed with it, almost keeps up with the performance of an actual SSD main drive, for only $25!)

[Suave]

You probably could have saved some money not getting that cpu. 8 cores are still unnecessary and you could have gotten a cheaper CPU that still wouldn't bottleneck a 670. Just persons opinion, I not the biggest fan of the case. It looks cool but after a while you just stop caring about how it looks. I have NZXT Phantom and I liked it at first but now I'm thinking of getting a ITX because it's small. Nice deal with the SSD thought.

[Rallo]

You probably could have saved some money not getting that cpu. 8 cores are still unnecessary and you could have gotten a cheaper CPU that still wouldn't bottleneck a 670. Just persons opinion, I not the biggest fan of the case. It looks cool but after a while you just stop caring about how it looks. I have NZXT Phantom and I liked it at first but now I'm thinking of getting a ITX because it's small. Nice deal with the SSD thought.

The case is something I like more due to the features as well as the style. The fan mounts are perfect positions, has all ports i needed (eSATA, USB3.0, audio) as well as plenty drive bays and great cable management. Could've probably gone for a cheaper case, but this one looks decent.


The graphics card is actually a 610, not 670. Planning on upgrading to a 760.
As with the CPU/GPU ratio, this is never really anything to go by; It always depends on exactly what you're doing. I currently use it for [email protected] streaming at slow encoding speed (uses A LOT of cpu). Streaming like this while gaming and having a few programs open just can not be done on many other CPUs around the price range (I mean, the other 8 core AMDs could, but that'd be a ~$20 saving.. Otherwise it's the $300+ intel i7s). Sadly though, the graphics card is what doesn't quite hold up at this point in time, playing games it's fine though when streaming the lagg can be noticed to the point of 2D renders (drop down menus, etc) even lagg if I'm playing a game on too high settings at the same time. Luckily, the 760 will fix this once I order it. :D

[Rallo]

Added pictures of (custom?) drivebay fan mount..
AKA sitting the fan where the drivebay was.. It sits perfectly.

[Rallo]

New GPU has arrived! Semi-updated thread (pictures to be updated)