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Buslover2013
January 9th, 2014, 07:35 AM
I don't. It seems disgusting. Everyone I know does though.

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 07:40 AM
I would say virtually everyone does because its natural and is hard wired into our brains. To not masturbate is'nt normal. If you dont want to, it's your choice, but it's a normal human function that it both serves an important service and feels great too. I dont see how it could possibly be disgusting

Sanctum
January 9th, 2014, 07:51 AM
I would say virtually everyone does because its natural and is hard wired into our brains. To not masturbate is'nt normal. If you dont want to, it's your choice, but it's a normal human function that both serves an important service and feels great too. I dont see how it could possibly be disgusting

If you had known it's outcomes you would not have said that.

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 07:56 AM
If you had known it's outcomes you would not have said that.
I said it because it's a MEDICAL FACT. So tell me, what are the "outcomes"?

Sanctum
January 9th, 2014, 09:07 AM
You could check them out here:
Http://www.helpmequitporn.com/the-negative-outcomes-of-masturbation-addiction/
Or here:
http://www.africaw.com/forum/f15/the-good-and-harmful-effects-of-masturbation-t1856/

Living For Love
January 9th, 2014, 09:13 AM
I'm trying to stop. 9 days without doing it so far.

ksdnfkfr
January 9th, 2014, 09:16 AM
You could check them out here:
Http://www.helpmequitporn.com/the-negative-outcomes-of-masturbation-addiction/
Or here:
http://www.africaw.com/forum/f15/the-good-and-harmful-effects-of-masturbation-t1856/

Was the first article written by a mental health expert or by a sociologist?

Was the second article written by a urologist?

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 09:20 AM
You could check them out here:
Http://www.helpmequitporn.com/the-negative-outcomes-of-masturbation-addiction/
Or here:
http://www.africaw.com/forum/f15/the-good-and-harmful-effects-of-masturbation-t1856/

The first link is about ADDICTION, not masturbation in general.
The second one has absolutely no scientific references and is based on superstition. Masturbation has the EXACT SAME physical effects as sex. If masturbating harmful, then so is having sex every day. If you check any reliable scientific/medical source then you will see that masturbation does not cause (as the website proposes)
.Lower back pain
.Thinning hair / Hair Loss
.Weak Erection
.Premature Ejaculation
.Eye floaters or fuzzy vision
.Groin / Testicular Pain
.Pain or cramp in the pelvic cavity or/and tail bone

Put it this way, if those things were true, then 98% of men would be going around with bald heads, bad backs and needing big thick glasses :lol:

ksdnfkfr
January 9th, 2014, 09:28 AM
I was thinking if any of that was true, the Surgeon General would start requiring penises to come with warning labels like they have on cigarette packages :lol:

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 09:31 AM
I was thinking if any of that was true, the Surgeon General would start requiring penises to come with warning labels like they have on cigarette packages :lol:
Hehehe Nice XD

Sanctum
January 9th, 2014, 09:46 AM
Was the first article written by a mental health expert or by a sociologist?

Was the second article written by a urologist?

Have you ever consulted a sociologist or a urologist? Or you have just listened to people who couldn't just control their lust and try to convince themselves with answers those answers.
Yes i agree that lust is by our instinct and we need to take care of it. But if you knew it masturbation's side effect you would never do that.
Is masturbation less harmful than self cut?

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 09:54 AM
Have you ever consulted a sociologist or a urologist? Or you have just listened to people who couldn't just control their lust and try to convince themselves with answers those answers.
Yes i agree that lust is by our instinct and we need to take care of it. But if you knew it masturbation's side effect you would never do that.

No, I've listened to medical facts. I go into hospital once a month at least so I'm in frequent contact with PROFESSIONAL Medical practitioners, including a urologist, and my Auntie is a Pediatric nurse who works specifically with child development. I'm a person who asks a lot of questions, so yes, I have consulted the right people. I wouldnt believe something unless I actually did my research. I can guarantee that those articles were not written by a legitimate medical professional.
If you want to believe that masturbation is moraly wrong, fine, that's entirely your decision. But denying scientific fact just is'nt an argument

ksdnfkfr
January 9th, 2014, 10:10 AM
Have you ever consulted a sociologist or a urologist? Or you have just listened to people who couldn't just control their lust and try to convince themselves with answers those answers.
Yes i agree that lust is by our instinct and we need to take care of it. But if you knew it masturbation's side effect you would never do that.
Is masturbation less harmful than self cut?

If I were going to study the psychical side effects of anything, I would look for something performed by recognized medical professionals in the field and tests that had meta analysis and peer review studies.
The same goes with the potential psychological / mental health effects.

Now if you want to be anti masturbation, that's fine.
But you will never find solid medical and scientific backing to support it,
so why look for pseudo medical and scientific backing to support it?

Asking if maturation is "less harmful" than something not related to it, is not a legitimate question in my opinion.

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 11:06 AM
I don't masturbate, I did a lot, last time I did it was 2 months ago. Reasons:

1- Like original poster said, it's kind of gross.
2- Playing with your dick alone, doesn't seem right.
3- People who masturbate are so ironic, they say that everything is "gay" but masturbation itself can be considered a gay thing. Just think about it.
4- When I started to get bored, I tried, very few times, to self blow job (glad the max I got was to kiss the top) and putting a finger in the ass. I didn't feel nothing, it really prevented me from masturbating properly, so I had to masturbate really fast just to cum, feeling was not better but I think worse and I felt guilty after and still do now. My point is you can't cheat on certain things, sex was made to reproduce and if you are a sex freak you will have to search and search new ways to arouse you, and even sometimes you will regret it for life. In my case it was nothing special because I think everyone had the curiosity to see if they can selfblowjob and everytime we are cleaning our ass we put fingers inside. Sorry about the details, but I had to say this.
5- I don't want to become a sex freak, I want to believe in real love. Ofc when I see hot girls I get a boner and I sure like it, but I don't masturbate about that girls, I want to find the right girl to do this with.
6- I feel better.

I think that's all, problably there's more. I agree with some religious stuff (not religious though), for me masturbation is wrong, I would like a lot to fuck a hot girl, believe me but it's wrong like they many said virginity should be lost with the one you love (if that's the case). If you need help to stop masturbating pm me, I do have my problems but everytime I fix one I'm able to help the other.

1. Thats an Ironic opinion,
2. How about scratching an itch? It's essentially the same thing
3. If touching yourself makes you gay, then by that logic, so does having one.
If nearly everyone does it, then how are there straight people?
4. Masturbation isnt cheating sex. That's like saying having a snack is cheating dinner. Besides, many types of animal masturbate, the whole point of masturbation is the [I]natural[I] release of pent up sexual tension. And the part where you say that masturbation makes you is a sex freak is complete idiocy. In that case, then nearly everyone is a sex freak. And besides, the whole point we live is to have sex, to pass on the next generation. Masturbation is just a form of natural self-education.
5. Again, masturbation does'nt turn anyone into a sex freak. That is caused by other factors, like trauma from a bad experience - such as being told that masturbation and sex is wrong. Are you also saying that real love cant exist at the same time as sexual pleasure? Because that is complete garbage.
6. If you feel better that's great, I'm glad you are happy. Just dont encourage other people to deny themselves.

Adding to what I said before read the article Sanctum sent: http://helpmequitporn.com/the-negative-outcomes-of-masturbation-addiction/

4. Mood swings: Hormones have strong effects on your physical and emotional health. Frequent masturbation disturbs the normal balance in your body hormones and makes mood swings pretty common in masturbation addicts. Anxiety, depression and loss of interest in daily activities are common signs of this condition.

Guess what I masturbated a lot (like everyday or almost), guess again, I was depressed because of a stupid thing. That's why so many people feel bad during puberty, it was like a stair, first I only had negative thoughts during night (something that I could easily forget), then in the morning, then in a period of time all of the time, I was still able to have fun but only now I see it was cuz of masturbation. Then a day I realized something, I stopped masturbating, I forgot that stupid problem that was nothing really, and I started to worry but all the shit I did (masturbating), I mean I was feelling better but I still felt bad. Each day I think I feel better, I think, I hope. I thought I had all kind of problems, I was over worried.

Are you trying to say that the reason people feel depressed and confused at puberty is because of masturbation ? That is honestly the dumbest thing I have heard in a while. Phsychological problems, especially at puberty, have NO relation to masturbation, as any real psychologist will tell you. If you were feeling like that, chances are it's because you are a teenager. All teens, pretty much, experience mood swings because of the changes in their body, including the brain. It has nothing to do with masturbation. Sites like those are biased and have little scientific basis

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 11:35 AM
It makes sense man, those sites make sense. I've heard stories of guys that masturbated like 6 times a day, you know the damages it can cause? I think of it as morally wrong, I don't want people to feel bad because I know what it's like, I want people to feel better!

I understand that you want people to feel better, and I think that's good :) But you have to realise that most people arent like you. Most people feel frustrated and confused if they cant release built up sexual tension, that's the purpose of masturbation, and thats why medical professionals say that it's a good idea to do it. I agree that if you masturbate too much, like 6 times a day, it might have some negative effects, but that is like anything, to much of anything is bad, like junk food..... but most people dont masturbate more that once-twice a day, because they can control themselves. If you think of it as morally wrong for some reason, then OK, but the majority of people don't think that, so please dont try to impose on them, after all, I'm not telling you that you have to masturbate, the decision is entirely yours

Living For Love
January 9th, 2014, 11:56 AM
I don't masturbate, I did a lot, last time I did it was 2 months ago. Reasons:

1- Like original poster said, it's kind of gross.
2- Playing with your dick alone, doesn't seem right.
3- People who masturbate are so ironic, they say that everything is "gay" but masturbation itself can be considered a gay thing. Just think about it.
4- When I started to get bored, I tried, very few times, to self blow job (glad the max I got was to kiss the top) and putting a finger in the ass. I didn't feel nothing, it really prevented me from masturbating properly, so I had to masturbate really fast just to cum, feeling was not better but I think worse and I felt guilty after and still do now. My point is you can't cheat on certain things, sex was made to reproduce and if you are a sex freak you will have to search and search new ways to arouse you, and even sometimes you will regret it for life. In my case it was nothing special because I think everyone had the curiosity to see if they can selfblowjob and everytime we are cleaning our ass we put fingers inside. Sorry about the details, but I had to say this.
5- I don't want to become a sex freak, I want to believe in real love. Ofc when I see hot girls I get a boner and I sure like it, but I don't masturbate about that girls, I want to find the right girl to do this with.
6- I feel better.

I think that's all, problably there's more. I agree with some religious stuff (not religious though), for me masturbation is wrong, I would like a lot to fuck a hot girl, believe me but it's wrong like they many said virginity should be lost with the one you love (if that's the case). If you need help to stop masturbating pm me, I do have my problems but everytime I fix one I'm able to help the other.

Adding to what I said before read the article Sanctum sent: http://helpmequitporn.com/the-negative-outcomes-of-masturbation-addiction/

4. Mood swings: Hormones have strong effects on your physical and emotional health. Frequent masturbation disturbs the normal balance in your body hormones and makes mood swings pretty common in masturbation addicts. Anxiety, depression and loss of interest in daily activities are common signs of this condition.

Guess what I masturbated a lot (like everyday or almost), guess again, I was depressed because of a stupid thing. That's why so many people feel bad during puberty, it was like a stair, first I only had negative thoughts during night (something that I could easily forget), then in the morning, then in a period of time all of the time, I was still able to have fun but only now I see it was cuz of masturbation. Then a day I realized something, I stopped masturbating, I forgot that stupid problem that was nothing really, and I started to worry but all the shit I did (masturbating), I mean I was feelling better but I still felt bad. Each day I think I feel better, I think, I hope. I thought I had all kind of problems, I was over worried.

Please don't double post, if you have something to add, use the edit button instead. ~Siobhan.

Wow, thanks for sharing this, really. Maybe that's my problem as well, I never thought about it that way, but stopping masturbating can indeed be the solution to my problems (or at least some of them). I do believe that masturbation can cause hormonal changes and all that stuff, and when we're teenagers we have loads of hormones in our blood, so what you said actually makes sense.

I haven't masturbated for 9 days only, but I just need to make some effort and I'm sure I can do it. I mean, I need to, I can't give up. If you're feeling better now, maybe I'll feel better too.

Sanctum
January 9th, 2014, 12:23 PM
Alright, if there is nothing wrong with masturbating then why people under 18-which means teenagers mostly- are not allowed to visit porn websites or strip clubs!? Isn't it in order to stop them from masturbating? But i think you said doctors believe that teenagers could masturbate.

trid
January 9th, 2014, 12:36 PM
Some people don't want to masturbate due to reasons, that are okay to have. It can be a variety of reasons, some of them that are legitimate and healthy. There are people who don't like it or get much of anything out of it. Then there some people with medical problems which won't allow them to masturbate and those that have low libidos. Also, one advantage of not masturbating for a long time is that it'll make climax much more intense, partly from it no longer being an every day thing. That effects either having sex or masturbation.

The things that needs to go on in this thread is to stop proclaiming whatever side we're on as right and try to shame the other side into accepting the other. Even on a religious stand point, sex and masturbation aren't the same thing. Even if it says you shouldn't masturbate, it's still going to be acceptable that people have done things wrong but will try to do better in the future. Also, to say masturbation is like being gay is really stupid. Then that means sex isn't much different, even with a girl; because you'd still be trying to pleasuring the penis.

And Ryanair, at least you're being considerate when talking about your wish to not do it. You're not trying to harshly question or sound superior than those who do choose to. I wish you the best of luck in not trying to do it, which is going to be hard some days because our fricken bodies. And if you do succumb to do it, don't beat yourself up and focus on not doing it again. Habits take a lot of time to break.

trid
January 9th, 2014, 12:41 PM
Alright, if there is nothing wrong with masturbating then why people under 18-which means teenagers mostly- are not allowed to visit porn websites or strip clubs!? Isn't it in order to stop them from masturbating?

No, it's not. It's about laws of consent and, in the case of strip clubs, serving alcohol. Besides, you don't masturbate at strip clubs.

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 12:42 PM
Alright, if there is nothing wrong with masturbating then why people under 18-which means teenagers mostly- are not allowed to visit porn websites or strip clubs!? Isn't it in order to stop them from masturbating? But i think you said doctors believe that teenagers could masturbate.

Are you serious? The reason posn sites are restricted to minors is because they contain EXPLICIT CONTENT! Not everyone who masturbates watches porn, I certainly dont

Sanctum
January 9th, 2014, 12:46 PM
Alright, could you briefly explain to me why Explicit content are forbidden?

Edit: masturbating without watching porn?
Sounds like watching tv when its not plugged into wall.

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 01:00 PM
Alright, could you briefly explain to me why Explicit content are forbidden?

For the same reason violence and heavy swearing in media are not allowed for minors - It's not viewed as appropriate content. It has nothing to do with masturbation, and I have no idea how you formed that idea...
Here's a question, if it's so wrong, then why is it promoted by all of the Doctors and Psychologists? Do they secretly have some conspiracy to influence everyone to harm themselves? Or do you just think that you know more than them?

Sanctum
January 9th, 2014, 01:59 PM
Alright first of all you eluded answering my question:"why are the considered as inappropriate?"
Most of masturbation's effects are social and mental, doctors themselves do not masturbate do they? And if they do researches which i am not sure whether they do or not, they will probably achieve only some physical information, and they wont find out any long term.i don't think teenagers would tell them that "yeah i did masturbations and i had these problems".

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 02:07 PM
Alright first of all you eluded answering my question:"why are the considered as inappropriate?"
Most of masturbation's effects are social and mental, doctors themselves do not masturbate do they? And if they do researches which i am not sure whether they do or not, they will probably achieve only some physical information, and they wont find out any long term.i don't think teenagers would tell them that "yeah i did masturbations and i had these problems".

Well I would say the main reason is that in society, Children are not associated with sex, it's the same reason that there's an age of consent. Personally, i dont think porography is good because it gives a false and harmful depiction of sex, and it objectifies women and It can influence boys and men into thinking that women are just sexal objects.
So anser me this...If masturbation is so harmful, then why aren't the majority of people on earth mentally unstable?

Sanctum
January 9th, 2014, 02:18 PM
Children are not associated to sex? Isn't masturbation associated to sex?
And how do you know they are not unstable?
I think One of the reaseons for murders in schools of the USA for example and even self cuts or suicides is that they can't Satisfy their sexual needs in a proper way.

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 02:23 PM
Children are not associated to sex? Isn't masturbation associated to sex?
And how do you know they are not unstable?
I think One of the reaseons for murders in schools of the USA for example and even self cuts or suicides is that they can't Satisfy their sexual needs in a proper way.

Sex is between two people. Masturbation is just for a single person to experience. And It;s Very offensive to suggest that all of those childrens deaths are attributed to Masturbation. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, and your arguments arent based on any facts or logic. I'm not trying to be mean of hurtful or be personal, but none of this makes any sence. If you dont like masturbation, fine. But if you are going to try and convince everyone that it's bad, i'm afraid you will just keep failing because theor arent any legitimate arguments against masturbation.

Sanctum
January 9th, 2014, 02:35 PM
Ok fine i'll stop it here. My words would only make sense for religious people or over masturbating people.
Edit:i didn't mean to bring up religion though

Tdaykin877
January 9th, 2014, 03:35 PM
I don't get why anyone would think it's disgusting or try to stop? It's a pretty natural thing?

From Chris
January 9th, 2014, 03:38 PM
I don't. It seems disgusting. Everyone I know does though.

Hi there! I would say you are most in fact lucky to find it disgusting. Many people are addicted to masturbation and find it very challenging to stop. Although it's a very wide occurrence to meet people that do, there are people who don't. It's simply a life choice! It's norma lot not and normal to do it. :)

-From Chris

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 04:07 PM
No, it's not. Sex is natural, semen has genes, has information to reproduce, not to waste it, not to flush it down the toilet.

I heard of a case that a guy masturbated a lot that he died, ofc it feels good, so does drugs, now why don't we just drug ourselves, it's natural and feels good, we don't we eat fast food all day, it's good I guess let's do it, let's get a lot of diseases. Masturbation can adict some one, like a drug, then then you relief some hormones and then you produce more, you are playing with hormones. Hormones change your behaviour, you can have drastical changes. I know some people encourage you to do it, but imagine you never had sex, and you masturbate every day, then someday you will lose your virginity with someone you love and then you will feel nothing because you are pervert addicted to putting your hand in your dick. I don't see it as gay, but I do think it's wrong, I do think it harmes us psychologically and physically. The last thing I want to say is the people that masturbate are so ironic, they say doing a self handjob is not gay but when they see something different then they say something is gay, just remember you are receiving and giving and hanjob, you know what it feels like to give one, you cum to yourself, it's not meant to be!

Oh and those idiots who say masturbation is ok are wrong, is it correct to 12-13 years old kids to spoil theirs childhood with sex, and masturbation? NO, cut that crap of exploring your own body, I fell into that shit and it led me to crap, don't do it, or you can believe in them and problably in the future you will regret it!

You dont know what you are talking about at all. I actually find these posts hilarious. You think you know more than a Medical Professional XD None of what you said has any basis in fact, show me LEGITIMATE evidence for what you have said..and what about wet dreams, that "wastes" semen, so is having a wet dream wrong? Comparing Masturbation to drugs and over-eating is a very ignorant comparison and doesnt make any logical sense. The guy who died from masturbating had an Aneurysm from doing it 42 times in one night, NO normal person does it that much.
Hormone Imbalances happen ANYWAY during adolescence, it's a part of puberty. Masturbating actually decreases the chances of sexal frustration, #FACT.
If ANY of what you said was true, then WHY would Doctors And Psychologists be saying that it's ok? Please actually answer! You are pretty much claiming to know more than professionals who have studied both physical and mental health for decades!
And btw, you pretty much called 99% of the people on here an "idiot" and a "Pervert"....

Tdaykin877
January 9th, 2014, 05:04 PM
I think comparing masturbating to drugs is a little extreme

deregisterme
January 9th, 2014, 05:06 PM
Alright, if there is nothing wrong with masturbating then why people under 18-which means teenagers mostly- are not allowed to visit porn websites or strip clubs!? Isn't it in order to stop them from masturbating? But i think you said doctors believe that teenagers could masturbate.

That is not the case. A huge %age of teens start masturbating once their body is ready. Like anything doing it excessively would be bad for you. There is also a small number of people that choose (for whatever reason) not to do it, and again, there's no harm in that either. The reason for the 18 age restriction for websites, is to protect the innocence of a child and teen from sexual content until they are old enough and ready to make choices on their sexual activity (for similar reasons on many age restricted things). Whilst masturbation in itself is a harmless pleasure, making choices on your sexual activity is a different thing. I don't want to see teens sexually abused, pregnant, having STDs, or being lead into any unwanted activity at a young age if they're not ready for it, hence the age limit for these things.

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 05:12 PM
That is not the case. A huge %age of teens start masturbating once their body is ready. Like anything doing it excessively would be bad for you. There is also a small number of people that choose (for whatever reason) not to do it, and again, there's no harm in that either. The reason for the 18 age restriction for websites, is to protect the innocence of a child and teen from sexual content until they are old enough and ready to make choices on their sexual activity (for similar reasons on many age restricted things). Whilst masturbation in itself is a harmless pleasure, making choices on your sexual activity is a different thing. I don't want to see teens sexually abused, pregnant, having STDs, or being lead into any unwanted activity at a young age if they're not ready for it, hence the age limit for these things.

VERY well explined...But i think youre good argument will go blatantly ignored...but oh well XD

From Chris
January 9th, 2014, 05:16 PM
I was thinking if any of that was true, the Surgeon General would start requiring penises to come with warning labels like they have on cigarette packages :lol:

FAVORITE POST IN THIS TOPIC. lol

-From Chris

Darksoul13
January 9th, 2014, 05:36 PM
Depressing how people don't know what their talking about when they say that masturbating is bad.

Darksoul13
January 9th, 2014, 05:41 PM
VERY well explined...But i think youre good argument will go blatantly ignored...but oh well XD It's sad that the people that have valid arguments about why masturbation isn't harmful is just covered up but others who don't know what their taking about at all. :(

Dark Hatred
January 9th, 2014, 05:48 PM
I just want to know one thing...how does one think masturbation is gross? It's your penis. You've had it your whole life and have it the rest of your life. It's not gross. If you think semen is gross, then you have a problem. It's your own bodily fluid, that a girl will have to have INSIDE HER to get pregnant - if all girls though that that was gross then we'd have a problem, and probably a hell of a lot of lesbians. Just somebody tell me what's "gross" about masturbating.

AlexOnToast
January 9th, 2014, 05:50 PM
I just want to know one thing...how does one think masturbation is gross? It's your penis. You've had it your whole life and have it the rest of your life. It's not gross. If you think semen is gross, then you have a problem. It's your own bodily fluid, that a girl will have to have INSIDE HER to get pregnant - if all girls though that that was gross then we'd have a problem, and probably a hell of a lot of lesbians. Just somebody tell me what's "gross" about masturbating.

Theres no reasoning with these people. Scientific facts just get blatantly ignored. If i were you I would just let it pass because you are just wasting your time

Dark Hatred
January 9th, 2014, 05:55 PM
Theres no reasoning with these people. Scientific facts just get blatantly ignored. If i were you I would just let it pass because you are just wasting your time

Yeah, these guys are so full of crap with the lies being told to them. I give up with these people. If you don't want to masturbate fine, but don't bash us and make up fake lies!

kinger
January 9th, 2014, 05:57 PM
Yeah, these guys are so full of crap with the lies being told to them. I give up with these people. If you don't want to masturbate fine, but don't bash us and make up fake lies!

Im with you these people are throwing around way to much crazy to argue with lol

Dark Hatred
January 9th, 2014, 05:58 PM
Im with you these people are throwing around way to much crazy to argue with lol

For sure...bringing back up the old "go blind" myth!! xD

kinger
January 9th, 2014, 06:08 PM
For sure...bringing back up the old "go blind" myth!! xD

Ya i love that one lol

StoppingTime
January 9th, 2014, 06:19 PM
Honestly I'm not sure why there's been so much arguing in this thread. If you know that another user is saying something that isn't backed up by any kind of scientific research, then there's no point in arguing with them as they're certainly not going to change their views, and seeing as this isn't a debate thread, there's no reason to try to get them to. At the end of the day it'll be their opinion (scientifically correct or not) so there's no reason that there should be any more arguing in this thread beyond this post.

Living For Love
January 9th, 2014, 06:34 PM
Honestly I'm not sure why there's been so much arguing in this thread. If you know that another user is saying something that isn't backed up by any kind of scientific research, then there's no point in arguing with them as they're certainly not going to change their views, and seeing as this isn't a debate thread, there's no reason to try to get them to. At the end of the day it'll be their opinion (scientifically correct or not) so there's no reason that there should be any more arguing in this thread beyond this post.

Thank you.

ukbiboy
January 9th, 2014, 06:45 PM
Alright, if there is nothing wrong with masturbating then why people under 18-which means teenagers mostly- are not allowed to visit porn websites or strip clubs!? Isn't it in order to stop them from masturbating? But i think you said doctors believe that teenagers could masturbate.

The reason under 18's are not allowed on porn sites or strip clubs is because porn is not too good. It has been proven that some people after watching porn try and replicate it when having sex when of course porn isn't reality.

Masturbation has no side affects and is 100% safe, it is great for stress relief, hormone control etc. There are a lot of urban myths and story's like people dying from masturbating, these are not true. During puberty teens are naturally horny as the hormone levels are at a high. Masturbation is completely natural. Everyone who is saying "its gay to masturbate" need to learn what being gay is. I bet everyone who disagrees with masturbation has nothing against females masturbating. Is it gay is females masturbate too? Does that make them lesbians?

I just want to know one thing...how does one think masturbation is gross? It's your penis. You've had it your whole life and have it the rest of your life. It's not gross. If you think semen is gross, then you have a problem. It's your own bodily fluid, that a girl will have to have INSIDE HER to get pregnant - if all girls though that that was gross then we'd have a problem, and probably a hell of a lot of lesbians. Just somebody tell me what's "gross" about masturbating.

I 100% agree with what you just said. I could not have put that better myself.

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SkiJoey99
January 9th, 2014, 07:58 PM
I know a guy who is 19 or 20 and says he doesn't masturbate. Normally I don't believe boys who say they don't, but this guy is really honest and trustworthy, so I believe him.

trid
January 9th, 2014, 08:07 PM
Ok fine i'll stop it here. My words would only make sense for religious people or over masturbating people.
Edit:i didn't mean to bring up religion though

As someone who's been part of it and still has some belief, no you do not. Don't assume you know what you're talking about. How about you learn some laws, why people would want to do such a thing, and learn why it would be that it would be banned or not talked about. I'm tired of seeing people forget to practice what is a stressed out part of my religion, treat people with respect and don't demonize people who sin. Not your place to evangelize.

VenezuelanGuy
January 9th, 2014, 10:07 PM
Wow, thanks for sharing this, really. Maybe that's my problem as well, I never thought about it that way, but stopping masturbating can indeed be the solution to my problems (or at least some of them). I do believe that masturbation can cause hormonal changes and all that stuff, and when we're teenagers we have loads of hormones in our blood, so what you said actually makes sense.

I haven't masturbated for 9 days only, but I just need to make some effort and I'm sure I can do it. I mean, I need to, I can't give up. If you're feeling better now, maybe I'll feel better too.

There's a lot of scientific evidence. Find on google “nofap reddit”. A find the TEDX talks about porn and masturbation. They are famous. It will be very helpful, I have 30 days without masturbation and porn

Theres no reasoning with these people. Scientific facts just get blatantly ignored. If i were you I would just let it pass because you are just wasting your time

So, you already wasted a lot of time... You should respect other people opinion even if there's no scientific evidence. This is not the first tread where I see you are arguing. Have you heard about placebo effect? Also you can search the 'scientific' TEDX talks about masturbation. And all the benefits like the 7th day pike in testosterone (I'm not saying that is completely bad) but no masturbating has its benefits. I invite you to take a look at the subreddit /r/nofap, to see what happens to more than 50k people. And if we don't consider science as the most important thing to measure everything in life, you can find about the chakras and sexual energy.

Waleedbt
January 9th, 2014, 10:28 PM
Trying to stop.
Its just not good.

RavleIncarnate
January 10th, 2014, 12:09 AM
%10 of guys never have, I don't know girls.

nklarke
January 10th, 2014, 01:53 AM
To answer the original question: there is no way we can know for sure that as we can't know if every one is telling the true. However, we can say that most of the people have at least masturbated once in their life, even if now they don't do it anymore.

It's very difficult to debate about the masturbation in a neutral way, as we tend to mix our own beliefs.

I agree that masturbation in extreme is bad, so if at a certain point you don't control the masturbation but rather the masturbation controls you, it's became an addiction.
But, if you masturbate sometimes, and that doesn't affect negatively your other stuff you do every day I can't condemn it. I'm not the one to judge others.

mattcallsu
January 10th, 2014, 03:55 AM
I'm on a strict masturbation diet now :D broke my arm a couple of days ago so i won't be able to do it for a few months... wohoo!..

Your Captain
January 11th, 2014, 04:31 PM
I don't understand why people don't and think its disgusting, you might aswell say sex is disgusting. Personally I masturbate 2-3 times a day

Eric57
January 11th, 2014, 04:54 PM
Reading through this thread, I'm a little confused.

Masturbating is a natural thing. We as humans are all sexual beings. There is nothing disgusting, gross, or wrong about that. It is a natural human urge to want to pleasure ourselves and anybody who tells you otherwise is incredibly misinformed. Why do you think virtually everybody masturbates and has sex? Because it's a NORMAL thing. If there was something medically wrong with it, then don't you think every doctor around the world would be urging people to do not do it? But guess what? I don't know a single doctor who would tell somebody that it's wrong to do it. It is safe and normal. Nothing wrong with it. You should never feel guilty about it.

The only time there is something wrong with it, is when it becomes an addiction. It only becomes an addiction when it affects your life, such as blowing friends off, not attending school, not doing school work, etc. because you want to masturbate. That should never happen.

As for it being disgusting, that is your own personal opinion. I have never heard a person say that. So that is a very new thing for me to hear and I'm shocked that a person could think it's disgusting.

AlexOnToast
January 11th, 2014, 04:58 PM
Reading through this thread, I'm a little confused.

Masturbating is a natural thing. We as humans are all sexual beings. There is nothing disgusting, gross, or wrong about that. It is a natural human urge to want to pleasure ourselves and anybody who tells you otherwise is incredibly misinformed. Why do you think virtually everybody masturbates and has sex? Because it's a NORMAL thing. If there was something medically wrong with it, then don't you think every doctor around the world would be urging people to do not do it? But guess what? I don't know a single doctor who would tell somebody that it's wrong to do it. It is safe and normal. Nothing wrong with it. You should never feel guilty about it.

The only time there is something wrong with it, is when it becomes an addiction. It only becomes an addiction when it affects your life, such as blowing friends off, not attending school, not doing school work, etc. because you want to masturbate. That should never happen.

As for it being disgusting, that is your own personal opinion. I have never heard a person say that. So that is a very new thing for me to hear and I'm shocked that a person could think it's disgusting.

I already made all of those points. I dont think there is any need to continue this argument, as opinions will be opinions and I dont think anyone wants any more trouble than this has already caused.

Pluie
January 11th, 2014, 10:27 PM
I don't either. I've masturbated once in my life. Didn't like. Hurted for hours after it... And I'm 16.