Will you please stop???

[Sanctum]

Hi
I was just reading about some suicidals and i got really upset.
ah, How does a teenager know what suicide is? i mean why should they even think about it?
as a member of this forum i just have one request for every one.
Will You Please stop committing suicide?

***if you feel like committing suicide you can visit here (http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/) or here (http://www.suicide.org/) they will help you. or you can just visit this forum's chat rooms there is always someone there whom you can chat with.
Life is beautiful, Suicide is murder, don't end it yourself.

[EmmaJane]

Hi
I was just reading about some suicidals and i got really upset.
ah, How does a teenager know what suicide is? i mean why should they even think about it?
as a member of this forum i just have one request for every one.
Will You Please stop committing suicide?

***if you feel like committing suicide you can visit here (http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/) or here (http://www.suicide.org/) they will help you. or you can just visit this forum's chat rooms there is always someone there whom you can chat with.
Life is beautiful, Suicide is murder, don't end it yourself.
How does a teenager know what suicide is? We know what it is because we have known it for a long time. We have heard about people committing suicide. Why should they even think about it? We think about it because we give up with life. In my view, in my life, there is so much negativity in my life it's hard to stay positive. Sometimes I think it's for the best that I left. I mean the world continues to orbit, time continues, people continue. Please stop committing suicide? Unfortunately it isn't that easy. It becomes the only thing we think about then when someone pushes you just that little bit you just well do it. The websites you have linked well some of us are too scared to get help. We'd rather keep it to ourselves as we don't want to admit that we need help. Telling an adult is hard because they might judge us or change the way they are with us.

(This is just what I have to say, from my point of view)

[King_of_Hearts]

Hi
I was just reading about some suicidals and i got really upset.
ah, How does a teenager know what suicide is? i mean why should they even think about it?
as a member of this forum i just have one request for every one.
Will You Please stop committing suicide?

***if you feel like committing suicide you can visit here (http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/) or here (http://www.suicide.org/) they will help you. or you can just visit this forum's chat rooms there is always someone there whom you can chat with.
Life is beautiful, Suicide is murder, don't end it yourself.

Haha how do we know what it is? Why should we think about it? Because sometimes it is all we have left. We know what it is because we hear about it everywhere. We think about it because sometimes getting bullied everyday or abused or even living gets to be to much. And asking us to just stop feeling the way we do is ignorant. We feel this way because we are strong and it takes a lot out of us. We cope by cutting or burning or whatever we do because it lets us know we can still feel. And suicide is murder to a point. But we aren't doing it. Our bullies and inner demons are. But I dont expect you to understand this. You really have to be in this position to understand what it is like.

[Etcetera]

I don't think the age is the matter. There's six year olds with a plan, I've seen where some kids as young as 8 year olds have actually killed themselves. So I don't think it's the age, or if you've heard about it. The first time I remember wanting to die was at age three, so I think it's just your mind.

[ImagineRepublicCity]

This is the thing with suicide. You don't know what it is because it's just death. But that's the thing which makes people do it. Death stops you and that's what they want to do. They want to stop.
Unfortunately, what you're saying is for people to just stop, but that's really difficult. It's the same with all these mental illnesses. You can't make someone stop being depressed. It's how their body functions. You can't stop someone having anorexia. It's how their body functions. You can't exactly stop a mental illness and that's why we have things like Self-harming and Suicide. Because when we needed others the most, people weren't there and we crossed the line. And we keeping walking and walking and walking until we see the end.
"Is this really the end of my journey? Just one more step."
And then it's all gone. You need other people to help you walk the other way. We're concentrating so much on walking that we don't realise we're walking the wrong direction.
So we can't just stop suicide. But you can help others realise they're walking the wrong way and turn them around. c:

[Castle of Glass]

Hi
I was just reading about some suicidals and i got really upset.
ah, How does a teenager know what suicide is? i mean why should they even think about it?
as a member of this forum i just have one request for every one.
Will You Please stop committing suicide?

***if you feel like committing suicide you can visit here (http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/) or here (http://www.suicide.org/) they will help you. or you can just visit this forum's chat rooms there is always someone there whom you can chat with.
Life is beautiful, Suicide is murder, don't end it yourself.


Hey,

To me, it seems you do not actually understand what is going on through a Self-Harmer's mind or someone who is suicidal. I made that differentiation because not all Self-Harmers are suicidal and not all suicidal people self harm. As a person who is both a Self harmer and suicidal, let me tell you, or attempt to tell you, how it is, at least for me.

Cutting for me is what helps me go through my day. It is what gives me my "high". It makes me able to function somewhat normally. Without it, i am jumpy, self hating, and generally not a very nice person. So one might call me addicted to it. Though personally i do not feel it. it just feels normal to cut myself. So, what i get from cutting, is what lets say an alcoholic would get from drinking, a smoker from smoking, a drug addict from shooting up or how ever they get high.

As someone who is also Suicidal, i can tell you that it is on my mind very often and has been for a while now. You might tell me to get help, such as using those help lines you posted above, and i have been to both, but each time, i chicken out. as you see, i am ashamed to be suicidal, yet i do not what to get help, as that would result in my parents knowing, as they are one of the reasons i am suicidal and a self harmer. I have know all my life what suicide is, though not by that name. As a child who's parents listen to the radio i heard all the time of murders killing themselves and such. So that is how i know about it.

But i can forgive you if you do not understand all of what i just said, how it feels like to be suicidal or a self harmer. But to be honest, i found this post offensive and rude, as you are telling all of VT's Suicidal members to "Please stop committing suicide". It isn't that simple. Would you tell an alcoholic to please stop drinking, a smoker to please stop smoking, a druggie to please stop getting high, an anorexic person to please eat, a bulimic person to not eat, a gambler to not go to a casino? A cutter please not to cut? and more? No you wouldn't. because it isn't that simple.

some of those addictions, like the alcoholism, smoking, drug addictions, you can be cleaned of by going to rehab, and staying away from the addictive materials. But you can't go to rehab for Anorexia Nervosa, Bulimia Nervosa, cutting, and such. As all these come from mental illnesses and disorders. Which you can't just get rid off. Sure i can give my blades to someone or dispose of them myself, but that doesn't get rid of my self-hate, and if i don't have those tools, i get creative, to satisfy my urges. With eating disorders, it is also hard to "go to rehab" for, so to say, as food is a necessity to live. you can force an Anorexic person to eat or a Bulimic person to keep their food down, but they would hate themselves a lot more. It is the demons that live inside my mind, and others, that come from these mental illness that make it a lot harder to get rid off. we can fight them but it is harder than fighting off a drug or alcohol addiction as the demons live inside us, rather than material items that can be removed.

You see, I know I am a waste of space, use up valuable resources, bother too many people, so why shouldn't I be allowed to just end myself and get those resource put to good and not bother people? You say that "suicide is murder" and i have heard others that say that suicide is selfish. but is it really?
This is the Merriam-Webster definition of murder:
the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/murder)
Does that say that ending one's life to get rid of the pain and misery they are going through is considered murder? To say suicide is murder, is like to say abortions is murder. which would lead to the argument that swallowing is genocide. But that is another topic.

You see, personally, I believe that saying suicide is selfish or murder, is more selfish than ending one's own life. Why? mainly because, which is more selfish: putting myself out of my misery or being forced to stay in that misery because someone else is telling me that to kill myself is selfish? to me personally, i say the second option is more selfish, as that someone is thinking only about themselves, not about the person, nor do they most likely know what they are going through. Because, well fuck it if i want to put myself first sometimes.

Of course people will listen to me and others, but that won't always be available. but then you and others would say to "go get proper help" but i am too much of a coward to do that, and i am afraid, and don't want to get help. The End. Because, for help to be the most beneficial for someone with a mental illness, they need to want it, not someone else.

If you made it this far through my ramblings, thank you, for this is the end now. I hope you now understand better what it is like to be suicidal and a self harmer, as it is impossible to know unless you are a self harmer or suicidal. But please do not get udner the impression that i am glorifying it, i am just showing how hard getting help is and why it is so hard. Thank you for reading.

[Sanctum]

Haha how do we know what it is? Why should we think about it? Because sometimes it is all we have left. We know what it is because we hear about it everywhere. We think about it because sometimes getting bullied everyday or abused or even living gets to be to much. And asking us to just stop feeling the way we do is ignorant. We feel this way because we are strong and it takes a lot out of us. We cope by cutting or burning or whatever we do because it lets us know we can still feel. And suicide is murder to a point. But we aren't doing it. Our bullies and inner demons are. But I dont expect you to understand this. You really have to be in this position to understand what it is like.

I am living in a 3rd world country that has nothing, internet sucks, goods are expensive and much more. Then i should commit suicide thousands of time each day. But still our suicide rate is lower than europeans and americans.

Committing suicide because of bullying and shit? Why do you even give a shit about them? Why not just disregard them. Bulliers are just jealous. Ignore them so that they will burn in flames.

[King_of_Hearts]

I am living in a 3rd world country that has nothing, internet sucks, goods are expensive and much more. Then i should commit suicide thousands of time each day. But still our suicide rate is lower than europeans and americans.

Committing suicide because of bullying and shit? Why do you even give a shit about them? Why not just disregard them. Bulliers are just jealous. Ignore them so that they will burn in flames.

Haha... I can't help but laugh at this. Out of all the amazing responses you got, you chose my pissed off little rant to pick out and reply to. If proving your point to me means so much to you, I will let you have this arguement. If it means that much to you to try and get some first world, spoilt kid behind a computer how wants to kill himself because he had a bad day or because he didn't get what he wanted to see from your point of view, I will give you it. And in regards to "just ignore the bullies", if it were that God damned simple, no one would be depressed because of bullies. I am suicidal because I went through hell for SEVEN YEARS straight. I understand that you live in a third world country where things are tough. I offer you my deepest simpathy for your situation. But try and see it through the eyes of someone who had a mental breakdown this morning, has thought about killing himself twice in three days and who comes on this section of the site for help with his issues, not a message saying "Just stop feeling suicidal" like it is his choice to do so. Look through some of my threads I started and you might understand why I got a little upset.

[ksdnfkfr]

I am living in a 3rd world country that has nothing, internet sucks, goods are expensive and much more. Then i should commit suicide thousands of time each day. But still our suicide rate is lower than europeans and americans.

Committing suicide because of bullying and shit? Why do you even give a shit about them? Why not just disregard them. Bulliers are just jealous. Ignore them so that they will burn in flames.

The problem in this is your complete lack of understanding.
It is okay not to understand. But the fact that you do not understand
makes you incapable of reaching out to us. All we see is someone who
has no understanding and a lot of reasoning based on lack of understanding.
If you really do care. If you really do want to help. Then read and absorb
what has been posted in this thread. Otherwise, sorry, you are just shooting your mouth off.
"Big winds come from empty caves."

[Katiya]

Oh gee, that's terribly hard to figure out...

Um maybe because its all over the news, taught in class, see in in our every day life, talked about. Yeah we think about it because we know about it. Why are you thinking about it right now? How do you know what it is?

[dingleberryz]

some people are just really un lucky and have to go through alot of crap there whole life, so if someone wants to die they should have the right to since it's there life

[Katiya]

I am living in a 3rd world country that has nothing, internet sucks, goods are expensive and much more. Then i should commit suicide thousands of time each day. But still our suicide rate is lower than europeans and americans.

Committing suicide because of bullying and shit? Why do you even give a shit about them? Why not just disregard them. Bulliers are just jealous. Ignore them so that they will burn in flames.

Well in your country women have to commit suicide to escape abuse and oppression. Did you know this? Your country does not report suicide the same. As well as all the barbaric practices and killing. I'm not saying you do that stuff but you aught to know its there. Your country also receives a great deal more sun light than Europe which accounts for seveer depression in many people. Sun is needed for happiness in 98% of people.


Perhaps your other problems shield you from thinking about it. If your starving you don't care what the fuck someone says about you looking ugly. You want food. Everything else falls by the wayside. Having been in a life and death situation at one point, the last thing on my mind was someone who texted me saying I should die. I was far more preoccupied in surviving my injuries than anything else. Circumstances control a lot of how you live and think.


You have almost no understanding of psychology and how situations, cultures and oppressions affect peoples psychology differently.


You have a very cute duck AV BTW. That was random but I like ducks lol

[nklarke]

Suicide is never a solution of something, is just the easiest way to escape of it.

But, of course, we can't understand the other person feeling as we can't put ourselves in someone else's place.

[ECSTASY]

Well whats the point of living? Specially when you live in an islamic country?

[AlexOnToast]

Perhaps your other problems shield you from thinking about it. If your starving you don't care what the fuck someone says about you looking ugly. You want food. Everything else falls by the wayside. Having been in a life and death situation at one point, the last thing on my mind was someone who texted me saying I should die. I was far more preoccupied in surviving my injuries than anything else. Circumstances control a lot of how you live and think.
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That is actually a very good good point, :)

[thatgothgirluknow]

Unfortunately it isn't as easy as just not feeling that way if it was no one would feel that way when things get hard and u see no way out you feel like ur trapped and will do anything to excape the pain to be OK again even if it is only for a couple minutes and self harm or suicide seems to be thee only option because asking for help seems to be to hard and no one seems to relize that when ur smiling ur really falling apart as for how do we know about it its just something u figure out on ur own or even. Hearing about it I wanted to kill myself when I was eight when my grandpa died my grandma said that he was in a better place she said that he'd go to heaven where he'd be happy and safe I. Thought that sounds nice I wana go there to people withmental disorders can't excape there problems like others can imagine having to relive a traumatic experience everyday of ur life or having everyone. Leave u at once to the point of feeling like ur all alone and no one else seems to understand its not easy

[thatgothgirluknow]

I also agree with kativa

[AlexOnToast]

I really dont think "Will you please stop commiting suicide" is going to persuade anybody.....

[thatgothgirluknow]

I am living in a 3rd world country that has nothing, internet sucks, goods are expensive and much more. Then i should commit suicide thousands of time each day. But still our suicide rate is lower than europeans and americans.

Committing suicide because of bullying and shit? Why do you even give a shit about them? Why not just disregard them. Bulliers are just jealous. Ignore them so that they will burn in flames.
Where I live ur expected to live up to others ur judged on how u look its not just words I've been pushed kicked hit chocked and all the while others sat and watched laughed and when I ask for help nothing happened because I was white the way u grow up affects how u think I was brought up being abused and told I was worthlessness by my own mother affter awhile of everyone saying it I thought well if that's how every one feels it must be true you won't understand it till I've walked in are shoes

[jesusogpaign]

I am living in a 3rd world country that has nothing, internet sucks, goods are expensive and much more. Then i should commit suicide thousands of time each day. But still our suicide rate is lower than europeans and americans.

Committing suicide because of bullying and shit? Why do you even give a shit about them? Why not just disregard them. Bulliers are just jealous. Ignore them so that they will burn in flames.

You need to shut the fuck up. Telling depressed people how good they have it only makes them feel worse about being depressed. We know that sometimes we should feel blessed or appreciative, but having depression, a mental disorder, doesn't allow us to see things as they are. Depression doesn't give a fuck if you're an impoverished minority or if you're a upper-class white kid.

[jesusogpaign]

I just don't have time for ignorant people.

[ImagineRepublicCity]

Guys, you're being a bit mean now. I know he didn't mean it in a bad way and he did put it off with irrational thinking but I think it'll be nice if we just educate him instead of hurt him.