View Full Version : Are Vaccines Bad?
PinkFloyd
December 31st, 2013, 07:30 PM
I personally do not think they are. I mean about 75% of the people on this site would be dead or severely impaired if it weren't for vaccines. What do you think?
Cpt_Cutter
December 31st, 2013, 07:36 PM
The people who protest against vaccines are either uneducated or scaremongerers. Without vaccines there would be a LOT less humans on earth, and history wouldn't be the same.
ksdnfkfr
December 31st, 2013, 07:43 PM
I think the same thing. I've only heard bits and pieces of the protests against them.
The main one catching my attention is that they supposedly have something to do with causing autism.
Abyssal Echo
December 31st, 2013, 08:38 PM
From what I've heard some vaccines have a lot of mercury in them thats been linked to ADD and Autism. one of my neighbors got his Polio booster before school started and got polio.
Gigablue
December 31st, 2013, 09:06 PM
From what I've heard some vaccines have a lot of mercury in them thats been linked to ADD and Autism. one of my neighbors got his Polio booster before school started and got polio.
Some older vaccines contained ethyl mercury in the form of thimerosal, but most of these have been fasted out. Furthermore, ethyl mercury isn't very toxic. Methyl mercury is the much more dangerous form, while ethyl mercury is processed and excreted before it can do significant damage. Lastly, the amount of mercury present in vaccines is negligible. You get more mercury in a can of tuna that you get from any vaccine.
Mercury doesn't cause autism or ADD. Both are likely genetic disorders. When mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, autism rates didn't change. If mercury played a role, there should have been a sharp drop.
There are two types of polio vaccine. The live attenuated vaccine and the inactivated vaccine. The live attenuated vaccine provides better immunity, but has about a one in a million chance of causing polio. For that reason, it is no longer used in regions where polio isn't endemic, and where lower immunity isn't that much of an issue. The inactivated vaccine cannot cause polio. Furthermore, no other vaccines can cause the diseases they are designed to prevent. As a result, this is a very minor and outdated risk, and does not mean that the polio vaccine is unsafe.
Sph2015
January 1st, 2014, 02:03 AM
My Mom had a horrible reaction when thimerosal in a vaccine caused her to develop a new allergy, and she almost lost her sense of touch. While I'd consider that a vaccine horror story, my whole family still gets the recommend shots. It's pretty hard to argue that they aren't a mostly good thing.
IcaJess
January 1st, 2014, 02:07 AM
A agree vaccines do a lot more good than they do bad, everything you do can give you a bad reaction but its a risk worth taking.
Elvalight
January 1st, 2014, 03:42 AM
even if they do save lives, i sure as heck wouldn't let anyone stick a needle in me 0.0
Tarannosaurus
January 1st, 2014, 09:18 AM
I'm sure they do save lives but I know a girl who is severely disabled, can't walk by herself and can't talk properly, as a result of a vaccine she got when she was a child. Of course her and her family didn't get any compensation.
HUSTLEMAN
January 1st, 2014, 10:34 AM
Vaccines are very safe as long as the vaccine is being kept at a proper setting it should be good. However I personally will NEVER take a flu shot again. My sisters and I took it one year and EVERYBODY got sick and I'm not talking about a head cold I mean full-fledged vomiting sick. NO NO NO Never again
Typhlosion
January 1st, 2014, 06:54 PM
I question why in the world is this topic still relevant.
Stronk Serb
January 1st, 2014, 07:27 PM
I think the bad reactions some mentioned above happen because the vaccines weren't properly contained? I know they need to be in distilled water and kept on colder temperatures. Whenever I got a vaccine, my arm was numb for a few days, but it improves my immune system.
Miserabilia
January 2nd, 2014, 06:47 AM
Well ofcourse everything goes wrong sometimes.
But in general, a vaccin can only do good things. The concept of a vaccine is ideal, it's just that sometimes something goes wrong.
AtypicalTeen
January 2nd, 2014, 10:41 PM
No, they are not.
Ashthefox
January 3rd, 2014, 03:01 AM
No, as much as I hate getting them, they've saved countless lives.
Miserabilia
January 3rd, 2014, 05:15 AM
Vaccines are very safe as long as the vaccine is being kept at a proper setting it should be good. However I personally will NEVER take a flu shot again. My sisters and I took it one year and EVERYBODY got sick and I'm not talking about a head cold I mean full-fledged vomiting sick. NO NO NO Never again
I don't think that can be possibly related to the vaccine tho.
A vaccine can never actually be strong enough to really make you sick, unless you have like 0% immume system.
Yolo98
January 3rd, 2014, 01:26 PM
Yeah , look at all the people in Africa who have been saved from malaria
Gigablue
January 3rd, 2014, 08:21 PM
I don't think that can be possibly related to the vaccine tho.
A vaccine can never actually be strong enough to really make you sick, unless you have like 0% immume system.
Even then, it wouldn't make you sick. It just wouldn't do anything. You wouldn't get immunity, but you wouldn't get sick.
There are very few ways vaccines can hurt you. The live attenuated polio vaccine can cause polio in about one case per million, but it isn't very widely used for that reason. There is a small chance that some vaccines can cause Guillain-Barré Syndrome, but that hasn't really been confirmed. Even if they do, the diseases they prevent can also cause GBS, and at a much higher rate than the vaccines. Obviously, some people are alergic to certain components of certain vaccines, and these people should avoid those vaccines. Other than that, vaccines can't really cause illness.
Silicate Wielder
January 4th, 2014, 03:07 AM
Vaccines are safe as long as they are given properly, some doctors don't really know what the fuck they're doing. Or know what they're doing but just do everything the easy and lazy way. but then there are also people who fuck something up themselves. and this isnt just vaccines Im talking about all things medical related in general.
Camazotz
January 4th, 2014, 03:42 PM
Vaccines are not bad or dangerous, and the fact that people attribute mental disabilities like ADD or autism. People like Jenny Mccarthy are causing poor people without education to deny modern medicine and implant false ideas that vaccinating their children will somehow cause severe disabilities, which is just sick.
Scottishdanny
January 5th, 2014, 09:59 PM
Vaccines are 100% a good thing: if people choose not to have them, such as for religious or moral beliefs as some do (much like blood transfusions, or other things) then let them, they've chosen that. However, vaccines are a fantastic thing and very few would actually the and argue they weren't.
SecretlyKnown
January 24th, 2014, 05:01 AM
Some people believe that certain vaccines can give you autism.
Loca
January 25th, 2014, 12:45 PM
The people who think vaccines aregonna kill us all are idots! Science will protect us! Vaccines could have, if on black market, botched bacteria etc. But in the more civilised world we are completely safe!
AlexOnToast
January 25th, 2014, 03:56 PM
No, I don't think they are bad. I have enough medical complications without the risks of Measles, Mumps, Polio and Rubella, thank you very much ...
Ocelot
January 25th, 2014, 04:30 PM
i think vaccines are necessary, no matter what small risks they may bring
sqishy
January 25th, 2014, 04:43 PM
I don't think so. There is probably some evidence allegedly saying that have bad side-effects, but they do what they were meant to do.
ImAurora
January 25th, 2014, 05:23 PM
I don't think they're bad... but I don't think they work. Or if they do it isn't a reasonable chance. This is just me, but the only times I've ever gotten the flu shot are the only times I've ever gotten the flu. I understand vaccinating infants and stuff, but as you get older it just seems to not work as well.
abc983055235235231a
January 25th, 2014, 05:51 PM
A lot of people say things like: "*person I know* got *autism, etc* from vaccines", and when they say this I really want to know what makes them think that they got autism (or whatever) from a vaccine. The reason I want to know this is because there's actually no scientific basis for claims that vaccination leads to developmental diseases, so it would be pretty amazing if someone had real evidence to the contrary.
Promans
January 26th, 2014, 07:06 PM
From what I've heard some vaccines have a lot of mercury in them thats been linked to ADD and Autism. one of my neighbors got his Polio booster before school started and got polio.
There is more mercury in tuna than a vaccine and the study was proven false and the guy who did the study came out and said it was false.
I don't think they're bad... but I don't think they work. Or if they do it isn't a reasonable chance. This is just me, but the only times I've ever gotten the flu shot are the only times I've ever gotten the flu. I understand vaccinating infants and stuff, but as you get older it just seems to not work as well.
You're wrong they work perfectly well
ImAurora
January 26th, 2014, 07:34 PM
You're wrong they work perfectly well
I guess my body is just stupid and they don't do crap for me but actually make me sick. Haha
Korashk
January 27th, 2014, 05:28 AM
I don't think they're bad... but I don't think they work. Or if they do it isn't a reasonable chance. This is just me, but the only times I've ever gotten the flu shot are the only times I've ever gotten the flu. I understand vaccinating infants and stuff, but as you get older it just seems to not work as well.
Flu vaccines don't really prevent you from getting the flu since there are so many different kinds of flu virus and more are evolving all the time. Flu vaccines are more meant to keep the flu virus from killing you. They also make you get less sick when you get the flu.
hockeyfan
January 27th, 2014, 11:31 PM
I know someone that got the flu shot and was so sick she missed a week if work.
I choose not to get it.
DerBear
January 28th, 2014, 08:18 AM
Generally people who are against bettering humanities survival through medication are generally religious overloads who believe god has the right to take and give life.
KimuraWannabe116
February 1st, 2014, 10:34 PM
The individuals who think that Vaccines are irrelevant are entitled to their own personal opinion, though I would think it would be much harder to retain good and proper health. I personally think the types of theories/arguments others make up these days, are nothing more then preposterous, and that most of these arguments are either rhetorical, or senseless.
Aajj333
February 2nd, 2014, 11:04 PM
Vaccines are not bad.
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