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Kaleidoscope Eyes
February 14th, 2008, 10:27 PM
LOS ANGELES -- Prosecutors filed a charge of murder with hate-crime and firearm-use enhancements Thursday against a 14-year-old boy who will be tried as an adult in the school shooting of a classmate.

The victim has been declared brain dead, but remains on a ventilator.

The charge against Brandon David McInerney was upgraded from attempted murder after authorities learned that victim Lawrence King's condition was not survivable.

"When we got confirmation that he in fact was brain dead, there's state law in California that says that's good enough," said Ventura County Senior Deputy District Attorney Maeve Fox.

The murder charge carries a maximum penalty of 25 years to life, with an additional maximum of 25 years for the firearms enhancement and an added one to three years for the hate-crime enhancement, Fox said.

McInerney made his initial court appearance Thursday afternoon, but his hearing was continued until March 21. He was ordered held on $770,000 bail.

McInerney's lawyer, Brian A. Vogel, said he will still try to have the suspect tried as a juvenile.

"If, in fact, the crime had happened three weeks ago and one day, he would be presumed of not being capable of forming adult criminal intent," Vogel told KNBC.

The felony complaint filed by prosecutors did not contain the reasons they were seeking a hate crime enhancement, and Fox said she could not reveal them.

"There is a category of protected persons listed in the hate-crime statute -- race, nationality, religion, gender, sexual orientation," Fox said.

The eighth-grader, who was shot Tuesday during a class at E.O. Green Junior High, was pronounced brain dead at 2 p.m. at St. John's Regional Medical Center after examination by two neurosurgeons, Ventura County Senior Deputy Medical Examiner Craig Stevens said.

An unidentified 14-year-old classmate arrested near the school after the shooting was booked for investigation of attempted murder on Tuesday.

Police said a handgun was used in the attack, which occurred with more than 20 other students in the room.

About three-quarters of the junior high's 1,150 student body showed up Wednesday for school, where psychologists held counseling sessions, Hueneme School District Superintendent Jerry Dannenberg said.

"We're trying to get the children back into their normal routines as quickly as possible," he said.

The school is in Ventura County, northwest of Los Angeles.

"He was just an innocent little boy who was trying to live his life," a student told KNBC.

King had been under the care of the Ventura County foster care system and lived at Casa Pacifica, a nearby center for abused and neglected children, said Steve Elson, the facility's chief executive.

"We're are all stunned and it's just an unspeakable tragedy," Elson said. "This is a very big traumatic experience for all of us."

King had been receiving help from school support staff, Dannenberg said. He had no details on the type of assistance the teen needed.

"He was seeing a number of people trying to help him deal with his own personal issues," he said.




I have an in with Casa Pacifica, who tells us that the kid was transgendered. They had just moved him to E.O. Green to avoid bullying at his former school.

The Batman
February 15th, 2008, 12:12 AM
I don't think they should trial a 14 year old as an adult instead they should crack down on his parents

Whisper
February 15th, 2008, 12:16 AM
I do
theres no fucking consequences anymore

japanman
February 15th, 2008, 12:17 AM
grr what the hell is wrong with people just because hes a trans gender or a certain race does not mean you can hurt him that guy should be held for life in solitary confinement he does not deserve to live with people:mad: man o man i know that the kid who died is having a good time with the person who created us all o my gosh i think im gonna cry :(

Kaleidoscope Eyes
February 15th, 2008, 12:19 AM
He's not 14, Thomas, he's 15. The kid he killed was 14. But since he is indeed 15, it was premeditated, he used a firearm (it's considered more violent than a stabbing or a beating I guess), and it was a hate crime, they will try him as an adult. I hadn't met the victim but my parents have, my dad is part of a group called the Amigo's, who go to Casa Pacifica and do outdoor activities with the kids every here and there, acting as a sort of father figures, especially for the kids there who don't have visitation with their parents. They met him last time, just a few weeks ago. My mom said he did seem different right off the bat, but he was just the sweetest kid she'd ever met. It's sad that something like that had to happen to him.

Φρανκομβριτ
February 15th, 2008, 04:48 AM
He pulled the trigger, didn't he. So why is it any different from an 18 year old doing the same? Send him away

serial-thrilla
February 15th, 2008, 12:35 PM
i hope hes tried to the FULL extent to the law, if he is not what message is that sending the all the other young murderers of the future?

The Batman
February 15th, 2008, 02:57 PM
I'm doing a report right now on Teenage Violence and Right now if they did trial him as an adult most likely he'll get out early and studies show that children trialed as an adult are more likely to committ more crimes later on in life what they should do is trial him as a juvenile and put him in therapy for the rest of his life instead of just locking him up and throwing away the key they should try and help him and stop this from happening again. Also clearly he got this behavior from his parents they should put them in jail too. I understand where all of you are coming from but when you look at it from the other side He is just a kid who needs some guidance and for some one not to give up on him it's never too late to help.

Kaleidoscope Eyes
February 15th, 2008, 03:14 PM
Who says his parents taught him to be like this? Not all behavior comes from who we live with. And in the end, this kid made the decision, his parents didn't tell him to do it. If a kid, just three years away from being an adult, killed a friend or relative of yours, say, because they were black, would you still be saying "Oh, well, it's not his fault"? If they planned this out beforehand, brought a gun to school, and pulled it out in the middle of class to kill them? Not only is the kid brain dead, but all of those students in the class had to watch it happen. They are going to need therapy for a long time to get over this. And you think this kid should get off easy? If he was 10, I'd be willing to say it had to do with his influences at home, but by the age of 15, that's when you start forming your own opinions about the world, start trying to define who you are, not just where you come from. I think the kid made a decision and he should pay for it just like anyone else. He should NOT be allowed to do this to anyone else, ever. And unfortunately, the only way to prevent that is to lock him up and get him counseling while he's in there. If he really is a good kid who got confused, it'll show, and he'll get off early for good behavior. But I doubt that.

The Batman
February 15th, 2008, 03:25 PM
This has happened to me before I've seen my dad get shot and I forgave the shooter, My best friend got killed when we were in the second grade by a 16 year old boy and still I forgave him all my life I've seen people closest to me get hurt but I don't past mistakes define who people are. Yes the kid should serve time but he should also be given counseling and a second chance I'm sure the parents of the victim will in time forgive him. I think that having in your mind to kill someone is a disease that could be treated with a lifetime of threrapy. I don't think we should give up on him and maybe he should be trialed as an adult but not life in prison people have done worse things and gotten less time.

Kaleidoscope Eyes
February 15th, 2008, 03:35 PM
I doubt he will get life, that's just the maximum sentence for a crime like this. It takes a lot to sentence a kid to life, more than it takes to sentence an adult. And yes, the time will come when he will be forgiven by those involved, but since the memorial service hasn't even happened yet, I don't think many people here are in the right frame of mind for that just yet. It's all too fresh. I'm not ready, and I hadn't even met the kid, just heard of him. But Brandon McInerney has to take responsibility for his actions or he will never learn how to. He'll get a second chance in 25 years or so, perhaps less depending on his behavior in jail. But my whole point is that he should take the blame, not his parents. He's old enough that he knew what he was doing, knew it was wrong, and did it anyways. Nothing changes that.

The Batman
February 15th, 2008, 03:40 PM
Your right he should take blame for this but his parents should at least be investigated for having a gun so closely available to him. I'm not saying this is a hate crime because only two people know that and it could be partly the media blowing it out of proportions but still the parents should be atleast looked at

serial-thrilla
February 15th, 2008, 04:18 PM
why should he get a second chance? he sure didnt give the kid he killed one.

The Batman
February 15th, 2008, 05:08 PM
Everyone in the world deserves a second chance what about Stanley "Tookie" Williams they pretty much petitioned for him to get let out of jail and he was the cause of hundreds of deaths but this kid killed one person(who didn't deserve it) and your ready to say lock him up for life. I don't know if he feels remorse right now for what he has done but I'm thinking about the future when he does then what there are killers and child molesters walking the street right now what makes them better than him. I completely understand what your saying because what he did is inexcusable but still he deserves a second chance.

Kaleidoscope Eyes
February 15th, 2008, 05:30 PM
He doesn't have to be locked up for life. But he deserves punishment for his actions. I think that's what everyone's saying. The court can decide his sentence, but all we're saying is that if Brandon McInerney didn't want to do time in jail, he should have thought of that before he killed this kid.

japanman
February 15th, 2008, 05:31 PM
i agree with dynamic t he deservs a second chance and with jessi he should still be punished for actions

The Batman
February 15th, 2008, 05:46 PM
Yes of course he need to do time a lot actually it just seems like in the United States we always want to set an example by giving kids life in prison whenever they do kill thats why i kept mentioning it but yea he needs to do the time

Concerned
January 8th, 2009, 09:50 PM
his is so sad to me

notsure101
January 8th, 2009, 09:53 PM
Whats happening in this world

AutumnDae
January 8th, 2009, 09:54 PM
Please don't bump old threads.

Locking.