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AgentHomo
December 21st, 2013, 02:54 PM
Before I start, I do want to say I am an Atheist, proud, might I add, and I am VERY militant about it. I am also a huge supporter of political correctness. So when someone says "Merry Christmas", I find it offensive as I have never celebrated that holiday and never will. Call me a grinch, in fact I'm quite proud of that title. If bringing political equality is being a grinch regarding the wording of holiday greetings, so be it.
Needless to say, I want to see what others say on this issue.
Edit: by this I mean are you fine with being told "Merry Christmas" or do you think Happy holidays is more correct?
Also, please ignore the typo in the poll.
Elysium
December 21st, 2013, 03:03 PM
While I'm not terribly passionate on this subject, I do prefer "happy holidays" since I've never celebrated Christmas and have no desire to. If someone wishes me a merry Christmas, I'll say thank you, but I celebrate Hanukkah. Good intentions, just not necessarily politically correct.
Josef_
December 21st, 2013, 03:05 PM
Merry Christmas =/= Happy Holidays
Happy Holidays takes the Christ out of Christmas which is why you'd probably want to say Happy Holidays over Merry Christmas as an atheist.
World Eater
December 21st, 2013, 03:07 PM
How one finds "Merry Christmas" offensive/insensitive, is beyond me. Oh well. Weak atheists, I guess.
AgentHomo
December 21st, 2013, 03:15 PM
How one finds "Merry Christmas" offensive/insensitive, is beyond me. Oh well. Weak atheists, I guess.
How would that/I be considered weak? When you are so passionate in your lack of beliefs just to have someone say something you are against? It's pretty offensive. How would you feel if I say Science Bless You if you sneeze. Or Science damnit when I curse? Would you be offended? Yes, I do get offended, but I support freedom from religion. No one religion should define a major holiday. Cool, you want to celebrate something pagan in origin, go ahead. But I don't celebrate it and I shouldn't be subject to it. Therefore, Happy Holidays would be more correct in my opinion. Not to be an asshole of society, but to stand up for the oppressed. And it's not just for Christmas or Christianity but I would do the same for the other religious holidays.
Harry Smith
December 21st, 2013, 03:16 PM
I don't get offended by it as such, I don't celebrate the virgin birth of god's son two thousand years ago in a barn but I'm up for the meal, the tree and the presents. It's not at all religious in my house but we enjoy a nice western consumer based Christmas
TheBionicWorm
December 21st, 2013, 03:20 PM
I think it doesn't really matter. Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa, the basic point is just wishing someone a happy December.
CharlieHorse
December 21st, 2013, 03:26 PM
how is this even a problem.
you wish someone a good time.
and you get offensive.
how about just accept the happy wishes.
World Eater
December 21st, 2013, 03:41 PM
How would that/I be considered weak? When you are so passionate in your lack of beliefs just to have someone say something you are against? It's pretty offensive. How would you feel if I say Science Bless You if you sneeze. Or Science damnit when I curse? Would you be offended? Yes, I do get offended, but I support freedom from religion. No one religion should define a major holiday. Cool, you want to celebrate something pagan in origin, go ahead. But I don't celebrate it and I shouldn't be subject to it. Therefore, Happy Holidays would be more correct in my opinion. Not to be an asshole of society, but to stand up for the oppressed. And it's not just for Christmas or Christianity but I would do the same for the other religious holidays.
I wouldn't care what anyone says. If something bothers you, then cut off your ears. Gouge out your eyes. Ignore it. I don't feel oppressed one bit, by ideas, or anyone because I don't let them oppress me. I call (some) Atheists weak because they can't stand hearing certain words. How hard is it to bear hearing the words "god", "Jesus", "Christ", etc? Why is it hard to ignore something? Freedom from religion just isn't possible in my eyes. I mean, the moment I walk out of my house and drive around town, I'll see four or five churches. They don't bug me one bit. And the people? They haven't harmed me or called me names or nothing. A lot of them my friends. So what if we don't get along on certain issues? It doesn't keep us from being friends. We debate...but that's it. In my eyes it's all just trivial bullshit. So you feel oppressed? That's your problem. I choose to ignore things that I don't like. It's not that hard. Either turn your head the other way, or keep bitching and moaning like everyone else who has a problem with these pointless things.
mai-rin
December 21st, 2013, 03:59 PM
I'm an atheist,but even though my parents are too they still do the whole Christmas thing.I hate doing it as it's nothing to do with me ,but it's their rules until I move out.If someone is nice enough to wish me a merry Christmas i'll say thank you - it doesn't offend me.
Vlerchan
December 21st, 2013, 04:07 PM
It's sad that anyone would be offended by another phrasing their well wishings in the wrong way. It's worse that someone would deem themselves oppressed.
PC is also a stupid concept.
Miserabilia
December 21st, 2013, 04:26 PM
Who cares if you say christmas or holidays? They all come from the same celebtrations in the same time of the year and when I say merry christmas I mean I wish you happynes and such, I don't mean celebrate the birth of christ because i mean come on, who even does that.
PinkFloyd
December 21st, 2013, 04:32 PM
"Bottom line is that they're trying to be polite. I'm not religious, but that doesn't stop me." - My atheist friend.
I agree with that quote.
Sugaree
December 21st, 2013, 04:42 PM
Before I start, I do want to say I am an Atheist, proud, might I add, and I am VERY militant about it. I am also a huge supporter of political correctness. So when someone says "Merry Christmas", I find it offensive as I have never celebrated that holiday and never will. Call me a grinch, in fact I'm quite proud of that title. If bringing political equality is being a grinch regarding the wording of holiday greetings, so be it.
Needless to say, I want to see what others say on this issue.
Edit: by this I mean are you fine with being told "Merry Christmas" or do you think Happy holidays is more correct?
Also, please ignore the typo in the poll.
>taking offense at politeness
You're one piece of work, kid.
Nic0 Fiend
December 21st, 2013, 04:43 PM
Tbh i say Happy Holidays AND Merry Christmas. Saying Merry Christmas is the same as saying Happy Hanukkah and all the other stuff other religions stuff(trying not to be rude by saying other stuff), because it's still basically saying Happy Holidays to people. But if you don't celebrate all you have to say is "Thank you but i don't celebrate Christmas, I'm (insert whatever you are)" There's no need to be a dick about it
tovaris
December 21st, 2013, 06:29 PM
I dont think christmas should be a national holyday, its discimanatory to non chatolics/protestant.
And yes happy holidays is mich better since we have three holidays in the last weeh of december.
I am also of the opinion that there should be no national celebration of cristmas. What people do in their homes is their buisnis, but the republis is secular, even the our constitution states that the republic and All religion are separate.
conniption
December 21st, 2013, 07:26 PM
This is actually something I've never quite thought about. Christmas is a Christian holiday, but its origin is very non-Christian, so I really don't care whether you wish me merry Christmas or Happy Holidays. As an atheist, Christmas doesn't mean much to me, but I respect that others interpret this holiday very differently. It's a huge holiday and not everybody likes it, but it is what it is.
darthearth
December 21st, 2013, 07:32 PM
I say Happy Holidays to people in general, Merry Christmas to those I know who celebrate it. I think it would be rather outlandish to take offense to either though.
Abyssal Echo
December 21st, 2013, 07:38 PM
I really don't understand why you find it offensive if someone wishes you a Merry Christmas.
I don't see what the big deal is.
since I can respect the fact that you are an atheist you can return the favor and respect me as a Christian.
Danny_boi 16
December 21st, 2013, 07:39 PM
I used to say Merry Christmas but I've been brainwashed to say Happy Holidays. And that bugs me.
StoppingTime
December 21st, 2013, 07:50 PM
>taking offense at politeness
You're one piece of work, kid.
See this right here. Read it, now read it again. Read it until it sticks.
If someone says Merry Christmas to me, guess what, I'll politely nod and say it back to them. Being "politically correct" in the way that you're discussing is idiotic in my opinion. From your posts, it just seems like you're a broken record yelling, "AIN'T NOBODY'S GONNA BRING ME DOWN MY VIEWS ARE ALL RIGHT IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME I WILL TAKE OFFENSE." Guess what, not everyone's going to agree with you and they shouldn't, and that doesn't mean they're wrong.
But to hold everything to the letter like you are...just...why? What's that going to do?
teen.jpg
December 21st, 2013, 08:08 PM
Its not even that big of a deal. Literally people only even bother to say it to be polite.
Sph2015
December 22nd, 2013, 12:18 AM
Well, I'm a Christian. A very reserved, don't like to broadcast it, private Catholic kid. Therefore, I say Merry Christmas. No matter who. That being said, I don't care what holiday greetings are directed at me. I will graciously accept a Happy Hanukkah, just as I would a Happy Holidays. This isn't an issue of political correctness. We live in a country with freedom of religion, as well as from religion. That means you don't have to hide it! I feel saying its wrong to say Merry Christmas is more politically incorrect then saying it in the first place. Find some tolerance for those around you.
Cpt_Cutter
December 22nd, 2013, 12:56 AM
The fact that this is an issue deeply saddens me.
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