should ar-15s be legal

[johndoe1112]

i heard everyone bitching and moaning about the ar15 my favorite rifle. you might say why well its because the shooter of sandy hook killed the people with it and may i remind you before you post that the columbine shooters/Virginia tech shooter and most other shooters used guns that where not assault rifles so do you think that they should be legal yes or no

[johndoe1112]

Yes, I think they should be legal. My father has one and it hasn't hurt anyone at all. It doesn't do anything to hurt anyone. This one time I left my shotgun out with some shells loaded in it and it never hurt anyone. I heard forks are making people fat so I'm going to go get rid of them.

its good someone agree with me

[johndoe1112]

there going to protect him with squirt guns if they make guns illegal

[Cygnus]

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[Vocabulous]

If they are made illegal then what is the secret service going to protect Obama with? You can't take out someone with an AR with only pistols. Think about it.

are you for real? anyway, as an avid gun user/owner/collector/enclopedia, i think that we shouldn't make any more types of guns illegal but rather restrict how easy it is to get a hold of one. you did something illegal and cant get one? to bad, thats your problem, not mine or the other responsible gun owners.

[johndoe1112]

are you for real? anyway, as an avid gun user/owner/collector/enclopedia, i think that we shouldn't make any more types of guns illegal but rather restrict how easy it is to get a hold of one. you did something illegal and cant get one? to bad, thats your problem, not mine or the other responsible gun owners.

i can make them so there not that hard to get all you need is a 3-d printer

[Harry Smith]

If they are made illegal then what is the secret service going to protect Obama with? You can't take out someone with an AR with only pistols. Think about it.

what? The secret service are legally allowed to have high powered weaponry that's not on the civvies market. That's why you see them with p90's.

If it's an AR15 in the original sense- 20 rounds in 5.56 then you should ban them, you don't need these assault style weapons unless you enjoy your children getting mowed down in their maths lesson

[project_icarus]

This one time I left my shotgun out with some shells loaded in it and it never hurt anyone
Not something I'd be proud of...

Anyways, what the man above me has said, I agree with entirely. You more-likely-than-not do not... need such a weapon. For personal protection anyhow.

Then again, I also think that what Miles has said is quite logical, but I can see those restrictions not exactly going down well with the general public in... some certain places.

[Cpt_Cutter]

I personally don't believe they should be legal. There is no legitimate reason a civilian needs to own a weapon of that type. When I see people on shows like Doomsday Peppers who have a room full of AR-15's it makes me want to cry.

[johndoe1112]

what? The secret service are legally allowed to have high powered weaponry that's not on the civvies market. That's why you see them with p90's.

If it's an AR15 in the original sense- 20 rounds in 5.56 then you should ban them, you don't need these assault style weapons unless you enjoy your children getting mowed down in their maths lesson

as i posted a few post ago not many school shooters use ar15 there is charles whitman colubine shooters virgina tech all used pistols and rifles

[sqishy]

what? The secret service are legally allowed to have high powered weaponry that's not on the civvies market. That's why you see them with p90's.

If it's an AR15 in the original sense- 20 rounds in 5.56 then you should ban them, you don't need these assault style weapons unless you enjoy your children getting mowed down in their maths lesson

^

I don't see how guns designed for a lot of damage are needed at homes, workplaces etc. If guns are for self-defence (as they should), then you only need pistols, nothing more.

[Harry Smith]

as i posted a few post ago not many school shooters use ar15 there is charles whitman colubine shooters virgina tech all used pistols and rifles

But the one in sandy hook did...

^When the shit hits the fan you want to be able to protect yourself. Pistols are only good for short to medium distances because you can't aim very steadily. With an AR you can take out the dirtbags before they get close enough to kill you. You could say just use a rifle but most of them only allow one shot before you have to reload, with an AR you can just keep shooting and maintain a safe distance. If the government collapses you are going to wish you had it.

An AR15 can't be used for self defense- the 5.56 round is too powerful so if you say shoot at someone in your home there is a high chance the round could pass through the wall and injure someone.

[fordgtguy]

All you americans saying assualt rifles should be legal make me sick. NO ONE in this world needs a fucking AR15, Yeah its a cool gun but not needed in a house hold. Only people that should have it are the fbi and secret service and the army other then that no one should have it. You could easily hurt some one with a .44 magnum even a dam 9mm can kill you. In Canada good luck getting an AR15 or even a dam pistol all you people saying o we need guns to protect out family im sorry but a shotgun is deadlier up close then an AR15

[thatcountrykid]

But the one in sandy hook did...



An AR15 can't be used for self defense- the 5.56 round is too powerful so if you say shoot at someone in your home there is a high chance the round could pass through the wall and injure someone.

Thats why your aware if whats behind your target. And i dont know about you but id rather have a whole in my wall than be dead because i didnt have a gun to defend my self. But i dont have ti worry about thanks to good ole' .45 on the fridge and mr.AR in my living room.

[Harry Smith]

Thats why your aware if whats behind your target. And i dont know about you but id rather have a whole in my wall than be dead because i didnt have a gun to defend my self. But i dont have ti worry about thanks to good ole' .45 on the fridge and mr.AR in my living room.

You see in Britain we don't have to spend 1000's of pounds securing our homes like Fort Knox, I don't have armed criminals coming into my house every night so I don't need to have access to high weaponry firearms.

Funnily enough a gun is 22 more times more likely to be used in suicide, homicide or unintentional rather than self defense

[Vocabulous]

i can make them so there not that hard to get all you need is a 3-d printer
yeah because the pllastic they are made out of would totally withstand more then
2 shots on semi auto, let alone full auto. also, this would still limit the sale of guns because not everyone has access to 3d printers in the first place. also, you can monitor what blueprints that have been uploaded and downloaded and act accordingly.

[johndoe1112]

All you americans saying assualt rifles should be legal make me sick. NO ONE in this world needs a fucking AR15, Yeah its a cool gun but not needed in a house hold. Only people that should have it are the fbi and secret service and the army other then that no one should have it. You could easily hurt some one with a .44 magnum even a dam 9mm can kill you. In Canada good luck getting an AR15 or even a dam pistol all you people saying o we need guns to protect out family im sorry but a shotgun is deadlier up close then an AR15

you make me sick if the army can be trusted with it why can't we there just normal civilans like us

[Harry Smith]

you make me sick if the army can be trusted with it why can't we there just normal civilans like us

I'm sorry that's just stupid.

The Army are trusted with Tanks, Rocket Launchers and tactical nuclear weapons, would you want to give that to every one on the street? Would you?

[Sugaree]

I see no problem with them remaining legal. What I see a problem with is the 30 round extended magazines that come with them. No one really needs 30 shots to hit a target. My father owns an AR-15, and while I'm personally not comfortable with it, I have no say in what he has the right to own or not own.

While many gun control advocates like to point to Sandy Hook as a case for banning the weapon, I don't see why they aren't advocating for more mental health awareness programs. No "normal" person just goes out and shoots 20 kids with a semi-auto weapon at their school, so the problem is not the weapon, but the hand that pulled the trigger. If more people realized this instead of being so reactionary, we would probably not have such a huge problem in getting more comprehensive reform in this country.

All you americans saying assualt rifles should be legal make me sick. NO ONE in this world needs a fucking AR15, Yeah its a cool gun but not needed in a house hold. Only people that should have it are the fbi and secret service and the army other then that no one should have it. You could easily hurt some one with a .44 magnum even a dam 9mm can kill you. In Canada good luck getting an AR15 or even a dam pistol all you people saying o we need guns to protect out family im sorry but a shotgun is deadlier up close then an AR15

Well, this can be said for just about anything. Why would anyone need, say, a Ferrari when they can get by with a Chevy Impala? Therefor, no one should have a Ferrari!

You see, this is where your argument fails. Many people need AR-15s for their jobs. Many businesses down in the rural South use them to fend off wild boars and hogs from ranchers' farms and hunters use them to get their food for the winter. So what, you're going to take away someone's tool for feeding their family or someone's main way of making money just because you can't fathom someone owning something you can't afford? Or, better yet, you just can't wrap your head around why someone would use something you deem "extreme"? AR-15s have a wide range of usage, it's not just for the armed forces.

[StoppingTime]

If you can't be civil and keep personal attacks away from this thread there's no point in keeping it open. This isn't a place to just say what you think and then say "fuck you" to everyone else, so stop.

[fordgtguy]

I see no problem with them remaining legal. What I see a problem with is the 30 round extended magazines that come with them. No one really needs 30 shots to hit a target. My father owns an AR-15, and while I'm personally not comfortable with it, I have no say in what he has the right to own or not own.

While many gun control advocates like to point to Sandy Hook as a case for banning the weapon, I don't see why they aren't advocating for more mental health awareness programs. No "normal" person just goes out and shoots 20 kids with a semi-auto weapon at their school, so the problem is not the weapon, but the hand that pulled the trigger. If more people realized this instead of being so reactionary, we would probably not have such a huge problem in getting more comprehensive reform in this country.



Well, this can be said for just about anything. Why would anyone need, say, a Ferrari when they can get by with a Chevy Impala? Therefor, no one should have a Ferrari!

You see, this is where your argument fails. Many people need AR-15s for their jobs. Many businesses down in the rural South use them to fend off wild boars and hogs from ranchers' farms and hunters use them to get their food for the winter. So what, you're going to take away someone's tool for feeding their family or someone's main way of making money just because you can't fathom someone owning something you can't afford? Or, better yet, you just can't wrap your head around why someone would use something you deem "extreme"? AR-15s have a wide range of usage, it's not just for the armed forces.

LOL that by far is the worst comparison i have ever heard " A ferrari and impala" ahah the main thing is people dont go around with ferraris and do some mario shit and run people over. But people go around with AR-15s and hose down 26 people so do you still want me to continue?

[Sugaree]

LOL that by far is the worst comparison i have ever heard " A ferrari and impala" ahah the main thing is people dont go around with ferraris and do some mario shit and run people over. But people go around with AR-15s and hose down 26 people so do you still want me to continue?

And yet, that doesn't happen every day. Please, point out to me where, every day, someone gets killed by an AR-15 on purpose. More so, I want to see where 26 people a day get killed. and don't point to Sandy Hook.

[fordgtguy]

And yet, that doesn't happen every day. Please, point out to me where, every day, someone gets killed by an AR-15 on purpose. More so, I want to see where 26 people a day get killed. and don't point to Sandy Hook.

And also please point out to me what people with money do but ferraris because they can afford it. Also im sure theres more people then you think getting killed by AR-15s then what the media is telling us cause thats all a bunch of crap

[Emerald Dream]

If we can't be civil, then this won't continue.

You were already warned. :locked: