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britishboy
December 9th, 2013, 11:36 AM
What do you think are the most important factors in deciding which political party to support?

Harry Smith
December 9th, 2013, 11:57 AM
The one which represents the majority of your major views when you start voting at 18, from then on it's influenced by leader and current events

britishboy
December 9th, 2013, 12:03 PM
The one which represents the majority of your major views when you start voting at 18, from then on it's influenced by leader and current events

What issues do you think of when diciding which party to support?

Harry Smith
December 9th, 2013, 12:08 PM
What issues do you think of when diciding which party to support?

I already know what party I support, I support the party which stands up for someone living in a urban area with high crime and poverty and the only party that does that is the Labour party. They're actually committed to moving forwards

britishboy
December 9th, 2013, 01:40 PM
I already know what party I support, I support the party which stands up for someone living in a urban area with high crime and poverty and the only party that does that is the Labour party. They're actually committed to moving forwards

So your main concern are crime rates?

Harry Smith
December 9th, 2013, 02:31 PM
So your main concern are crime rates?

Nope not at all, I really don't have one main concern. It's more a collection and how the party addresses several issues. I would never vote for a party based on one issue alone

britishboy
December 9th, 2013, 02:50 PM
Nope not at all, I really don't have one main concern. It's more a collection and how the party addresses several issues. I would never vote for a party based on one issue alone

Well what issues are more important? Here's the most popular fot help; EU membership status, Welfare, Scottish independence, Equality and foreign policy.

Harry Smith
December 9th, 2013, 03:12 PM
Well what issues are more important? Here's the most popular fot help; EU membership status, Welfare, Scottish independence, Equality and foreign policy.

Eu membership status doesn't even come in the top 10 for most voters- it's really only in the Westminster village http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3304/EconomistIpsos-MORI-November-2013-Issues-Index.aspx

Scottish Independence is no issue for me- I can't vote on it.

Equality has been achieved by the government through the various laws- there is little they can do to achieve it now through De Jure change.

Foreign Policy- the tories wanted to bomb Syria, Labour and UKIP didn't.

I think the most important issue for everyone is living standards- fuel prices are going up along with many other consumer goods whilst wages are going down. This is one the most important issues

Cpt_Cutter
December 9th, 2013, 04:24 PM
I think the most important issue for everyone is living standards- fuel prices are going up

That's more to do with the exporting counties than the importing ones, the exporting countries use a good method, the "Us first, you after", which means that they have insanely low prices on gas and have as much as they want, then they export the other stuff to other nations at a High price.

I was reading about it because Its the opposite of what NZ does with milk, we export first, then charge a lot more for less in our own country, which IMO is a really stupid way to do it.

Vlerchan
December 9th, 2013, 05:29 PM
I don't tend to support political parties - largely because Irish political parties are horrifyingly incompetent. Rather, I support individual political figures.

What I value most in a political party is competent leadership. Then, it's a mix of both economic policies and positions on social issues.

tovaris
December 9th, 2013, 05:49 PM
Ideologie!
And the entire pakage of their manifesto, dont forget to stay away from those corupt ofitials.

Southside
December 9th, 2013, 06:12 PM
For me its a strong party leadership, positions on social issues, not being war hawks(Such as the Republican party), economic policies.

Yonkers
December 9th, 2013, 06:41 PM
abcd

Cygnus
December 9th, 2013, 07:14 PM
I think the political party you support should be based on your own ideals, what I mean by that is finding the one that fits best to your ideals, not otherwise.

DerBear
December 10th, 2013, 11:12 PM
I think the most important issue for everyone is living standards- fuel prices are going up along with many other consumer goods whilst wages are going down. This is one the most important issues

Exactly, most voters don't really care about war, eu membership etc. Most just want to be able to have a decent standard of living.

Personally like Harry said, I swing towards Labour because that party fits most of my political ideology as well as the fact I agree with most of their policies and their policies fit my ideology

LouBerry
December 10th, 2013, 11:41 PM
What do you think are the most important factors in deciding which political party to support?

Who says the most shit that you agree with. Is there anything else?

britishboy
December 11th, 2013, 11:25 AM
Who says the most shit that you agree with. Is there anything else?

Wtf? What policies are most important to you?

Syvelocin
December 11th, 2013, 12:25 PM
I'm not really into politics and I'll admit I don't care about the pressing issues because it's just not my area. I have yet to vote however; 2016 will be my first election and I mainly registered so I could vote on state issues like the supposed gay marriage ballot for next year. Personally, I have a hard time associating myself with a candidate if they don't believe I'm an equal citizen, so equality and abortion come up pretty quickly for me. Then secularism, separating religion from government.

LouBerry
December 11th, 2013, 02:25 PM
Wtf? What policies are most important to you?

It changes. Right now, I'd vote for anyone, regardless of their political party and views, if they weren't full of crap. I'm worried about what's best for this country as a whole, not me.

britishboy
December 11th, 2013, 02:31 PM
It changes. Right now, I'd vote for anyone, regardless of their political party and views, if they weren't full of crap. I'm worried about what's best for this country as a whole, not me.

What country are you from?

LouBerry
December 11th, 2013, 02:35 PM
What country are you from?

United States. So, yeah, our countries going downhill fast. I honestly don't care if the next President is the damn antichrist, if they make things better, I'd be all over that.

britishboy
December 11th, 2013, 02:55 PM
United States. So, yeah, our countries going downhill fast. I honestly don't care if the next President is the damn antichrist, if they make things better, I'd be all over that.

I feel your pain two party systems are never good, I personally would vote republican but that's only the lesser evil

LouBerry
December 11th, 2013, 05:13 PM
but that's only the lesser evil

There is no such thing I'm afraid.

Harry Smith
December 11th, 2013, 05:57 PM
I, I personally would vote republican but that's only the lesser evil

So the anti-abortion, pro gun, pro Guantanamo party are less evil? That's an interesting idea

Sugaree
December 11th, 2013, 08:22 PM
the lesser evil

>believing in a lesser evil

There is no such thing. Get that childish thought out of your head right now, you'll grow up quicker.

DerBear
December 11th, 2013, 10:52 PM
So the anti-abortion, pro gun, pro Guantanamo party are less evil? That's an interesting idea

Couldn't have said that better myself :D

Walter Powers
December 12th, 2013, 01:04 AM
Economics and Military. If your economy sucks, or your family has become the victims of a nuclear weapon, it's hard to enjoy yourself in life. Other issues aren't as pressing.

britishboy
December 12th, 2013, 02:15 AM
Economics and Military. If your economy sucks, or your family has become the victims of a nuclear weapon, it's hard to enjoy yourself in life. Other issues aren't as pressing.

Ah it's good to see you:) And btw for those that don't like republicans would you rather your country fail or succeed but succeed with a few minor polices you don't agree with.
So the anti-abortion, pro gun, pro Guantanamo party are less evil? That's an interesting idea

This how you choose a party.
1. Find out what is most important to you.
2. Choose the party that is best at that.

Nobody has to agree 100% with their party.

Harry Smith
December 12th, 2013, 02:22 AM
Ah it's good to see you:) And btw for those that don't like republicans would you rather your country fail or succeed but succeed with a few minor polices you don't agree with.


This how you choose a party.
1. Find out what is most important to you.
2. Choose the party that is best at that.

Nobody has to agree 100% with their party.

No it's really not- I'm a member of a Party- you don't have to tell me how to pick a political party. Everyone is capable of making a smart decision without your guidance. That's pretty much an idiots guide to picking a political party. Looking at the views you've expressed you don't even have 50% in common with the Republican party

So between 1992 and 2000 was the US failing? Heck no- the Clinton years were some of the best years in office. It's pretty stupid and well incorrect to claim that the Republican party equals success for a country because if you look at the Bush years it's quite clearly the opposite. Only president to fail on unemployment change, failed on stem cells and spend billions of dollars on unjust wars- that's not success. Social issues are extremely important for every party and for the nation. I don't care if Britain's unemployment has fallen by 0.7%- I care about the government denying me my rights, or the rights of women to have control over their body

Republicans don't equal success...

sqishy
December 12th, 2013, 02:58 PM
What party lies the least, plans to run the country the most efficiently and with the least harm done (crime, homelessness etc.), along with being the most secular and accepting of all differences that deserve acceptance (race, sexuality, genetic/otherwise disorders, etc.). Maybe I'm saying this wrong, but that is what I would look out for.
And no party yet has got my confidence.

Walter Powers
December 12th, 2013, 09:49 PM
No it's really not- I'm a member of a Party- you don't have to tell me how to pick a political party. Everyone is capable of making a smart decision without your guidance. That's pretty much an idiots guide to picking a political party. Looking at the views you've expressed you don't even have 50% in common with the Republican party

So between 1992 and 2000 was the US failing? Heck no- the Clinton years were some of the best years in office. It's pretty stupid and well incorrect to claim that the Republican party equals success for a country because if you look at the Bush years it's quite clearly the opposite. Only president to fail on unemployment change, failed on stem cells and spend billions of dollars on unjust wars- that's not success. Social issues are extremely important for every party and for the nation. I don't care if Britain's unemployment has fallen by 0.7%- I care about the government denying me my rights, or the rights of women to have control over their body

Republicans don't equal success...

Not always, but the certainly have a way better track record then the Progressives who are trying to take over America now.

Notice how he seems to completly forget the fact Ronald Reagan, a Republican quickly turned a recession created by Carter, a Democrat, into an economic boom far greater then Clinton.

And you do realize what terrible timing it is to try to argue Denocrats are good for the economy?

And as I've said before, is gay marriage and abortion really worth an economic collapse?

Harry Smith
December 13th, 2013, 06:12 AM
Not always, but the certainly have a way better track record then the Progressives who are trying to take over America now.

Notice how he seems to completly forget the fact Ronald Reagan, a Republican quickly turned a recession created by Carter, a Democrat, into an economic boom far greater then Clinton.

And you do realize what terrible timing it is to try to argue Denocrats are good for the economy?

And as I've said before, is gay marriage and abortion really worth an economic collapse?

Damn Progressives trying to make the country go forward!

Get out the ole harp, back when Reagan was in power everything was golden... it's not the 1980's anymore. Read my lips!

The democrats are good for the economy because they exactly understand the nature of America and they came a lot closer than the Republicans in understanding that everyone needs to be part of the recovery.

It's not a case of gay marriage= economic collapse.

The GOP won't get elected to the White house if they continue to hold outdated ideas on social issues. You can keep banging on about the economy because yeah it does matter but for millions of Americans they concerned about whether them or their friends would be able to marry who they like.

I've said this before and I'll say it again.

For years now I have heard the word "Wait!" . This "Wait" has almost always meant "Never." We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that "justice too long delayed is justice denied