Meaningless Christian Life?

[Name1ess]

If you are a Christian, you believe in the creation myth, heaven and hell, and that God is all knowing. If these are true, life is essentially meaningless and pointless. The tenet that God is all knowing really throws it into a loop, but let's first start with heaven and hell. If you believe in heaven and hell, it is pretty much necessary to see life as an entrance test for the eternal afterlife and it makes sense to do so. This life is petty and insignificant compared to eternity, so you should just follow God's law precisely no matter the cost. Either way you are eternal. This forces you do ask the question: Does something that is infinite have value? Look at gold. If gold was unlimited, would it have value? Anyway in Christianity, life is a test.

Now let's deal with the all knowing aspect. If God is all knowing, then He had no reason to create earth or the universe or give you life. These things function as a test. God is all knowing. He knows the results of that test no matter what you might do. He can judge you the moment you are created and throw you in heaven or hell. This means making earth, and life was silly, pointless, and in connection makes the life you are living meaningless. The only way to give life meaning and purpose would be to discard God's property if being all knowing or heaven and hell.

I am not trying to offend anyone. This is what I see and I'm curious what Christians and other people would say about it. I was tempted to use the pronoun She throughout this because the idea of a female god is more pleasing to me. Anyway, much love

Chris :)

[IAMWILL]

Right, let me you correct you on one thing here.

Almost all Christian based religions do not believe in creationism, they wholeheartedly believe in big/bang theory/evolution and such. Very few Christian sects interpret the bible literally, most would say something along the lines of "science teaches us how it happens, the bible teaches us why it happened."

So given that you may want to rethink your argument.

[CharlieHorse]

Life is what you make it.
it doesn't have purpose, so give it one.
Simple as that. No god needed, but also works with a God too.

[Name1ess]

Right, let me you correct you on one thing here.

Almost all Christian based religions do not believe in creationism, they wholeheartedly believe in big/bang theory/evolution and such. Very few Christian sects interpret the bible literally, most would say something along the lines of "science teaches us how it happens, the bible teaches us why it happened."

So given that you may want to rethink your argument.

In any which case you still believe that God created you in most cases, regardless of the way it was done. This is more about heaven and hell and the tenant that God is all knowing. I see this as irrelevant. The how He created you and the universe doesn't matter. Most Christians literally believe in heaven and hell, that God created them, and that God is all knowing.

Chris :)

Life is what you make it.
it doesn't have purpose, so give it one.
Simple as that. No god needed, but also works with a God too.

I like this, but in saying this you face the obstacle of God himself. Why would He do something that is ultimately pointless?

Merged double post. -Cygnus David

[CharlieHorse]

I like this, but in saying this you face the obstacle of God himself. Why would He do something that is ultimately pointless?

The obstacle of god? What's that mean?

Why do we do pointless things? Because it's fun.

[Stronk Serb]

Yeah, those are some interesting points.

[whatsgoinon53]

If you are a Christian, you believe in the creation myth, heaven and hell, and that God is all knowing. If these are true, life is essentially meaningless and pointless. The tenet that God is all knowing really throws it into a loop, but let's first start with heaven and hell. If you believe in heaven and hell, it is pretty much necessary to see life as an entrance test for the eternal afterlife and it makes sense to do so. This life is petty and insignificant compared to eternity, so you should just follow God's law precisely no matter the cost. Either way you are eternal. This forces you do ask the question: Does something that is infinite have value? Look at gold. If gold was unlimited, would it have value? Anyway in Christianity, life is a test.

Now let's deal with the all knowing aspect. If God is all knowing, then He had no reason to create earth or the universe or give you life. These things function as a test. God is all knowing. He knows the results of that test no matter what you might do. He can judge you the moment you are created and throw you in heaven or hell. This means making earth, and life was silly, pointless, and in connection makes the life you are living meaningless. The only way to give life meaning and purpose would be to discard God's property if being all knowing or heaven and hell.

I am not trying to offend anyone. This is what I see and I'm curious what Christians and other people would say about it. I was tempted to use the pronoun She throughout this because the idea of a female god is more pleasing to me. Anyway, much love

Chris :)

WELL... I am a Christian, and I do believe in the almighty, all knowing, all powerful God. Life, my friend, is definitely not meaningless and pointless. If you've ever read the Bible, you'd know that. There are many, many different verses that state reasons of life. I know this myself as well because my family and I are currently living in Uganda. We know that God put us on this Earth - that he apparently "pointlessly" created - to help other, more disadvantaged people - who were also "pointlessly" created. When you say:

This life is petty and insignificant compared to eternity, so you should just follow God's law precisely no matter the cost.

It's rubbish. No one can, or ever will, be able to follow God's law precisely! It even says in the Bible "None of them are righteous, not even one". We have all made mistakes, even the Pope has! And I'm not even Catholic... Yes, life is a "test" but God hasn't forbidden us to enjoy it! It's a test, mostly, of our spiritual strength and our FAITH! Our faith in Jesus Christ is what matters most to him. It's true...God didn't have to create the Earth and no one knows why he did. All we know is that he loves us and that he will provide for us "No matter the cost".

[darthearth]

If you are a Christian, you believe in the creation myth, heaven and hell, and that God is all knowing. If these are true, life is essentially meaningless and pointless.

No, I don't believe in a literal interpretation of the creation myth. I also do not believe people are thrown into Hell forever (it's just temporary until they repent and God deems the time fulfilled).

...... let's first start with heaven and hell. If you believe in heaven and hell, it is pretty much necessary to see life as an entrance test for the eternal afterlife and it makes sense to do so.

I sort of agree.


This life is petty and insignificant compared to eternity, so you should just follow God's law precisely no matter the cost. Either way you are eternal. This forces you do ask the question: Does something that is infinite have value? Look at gold. If gold was unlimited, would it have value? Anyway in Christianity, life is a test.

I am a monotheistic panentheist, life is essentially infinite and it has all value (cannot be compared to gold).

Now let's deal with the all knowing aspect. If God is all knowing, then He had no reason to create earth or the universe or give you life.

He created the Universe and life so that there may be life. If you think about it for awhile you realize there must be a created world such as this to enable lives to be lived. This is the reason.


These things function as a test. God is all knowing. He knows the results of that test no matter what you might do. He can judge you the moment you are created and throw you in heaven or hell. This means making earth, and life was silly, pointless, and in connection makes the life you are living meaningless.


Not silly, pointless or meaningless at all. How else can living, self-identified eternal souls be raised up from scratch except to have what we have here?


The only way to give life meaning and purpose would be to discard God's property if being all knowing or heaven and hell.

I am not trying to offend anyone. This is what I see and I'm curious what Christians and other people would say about it. I was tempted to use the pronoun She throughout this because the idea of a female god is more pleasing to me. Anyway, much love

Chris :)

I certainly do not see the logic in saying "all knowing, heaven and hell" means "no meaning or purpose".

Please answer me this question: How else, except by something like we have here, can living beings exist at all? To have life there must be a world where that life can be self-identified and evolved through the environment of that world. Is there really a better way than to grow a soul by scratch through faith? How strong will a soul be inwardly if God was always talking to us and directing our actions? A much stronger foundation is free will through faith, which is why God created us like He created us.

[LouBerry]

If you are a Christian, you believe in the creation myth, heaven and hell, and that God is all knowing. If these are true, life is essentially meaningless and pointless. The tenet that God is all knowing really throws it into a loop, but let's first start with heaven and hell. If you believe in heaven and hell, it is pretty much necessary to see life as an entrance test for the eternal afterlife and it makes sense to do so. This life is petty and insignificant compared to eternity, so you should just follow God's law precisely no matter the cost. Either way you are eternal. This forces you do ask the question: Does something that is infinite have value? Look at gold. If gold was unlimited, would it have value? Anyway in Christianity, life is a test.

Now let's deal with the all knowing aspect. If God is all knowing, then He had no reason to create earth or the universe or give you life. These things function as a test. God is all knowing. He knows the results of that test no matter what you might do. He can judge you the moment you are created and throw you in heaven or hell. This means making earth, and life was silly, pointless, and in connection makes the life you are living meaningless. The only way to give life meaning and purpose would be to discard God's property if being all knowing or heaven and hell.

I am not trying to offend anyone. This is what I see and I'm curious what Christians and other people would say about it. I was tempted to use the pronoun She throughout this because the idea of a female god is more pleasing to me. Anyway, much love

Chris :)

You're right. Except well...all of it.
Meaningless and pointless? I don't find my life to be like that at all. I have the chance to do some good in the world. To fall in love, to do all of the great things in life, and then, I get to spend eternity in Heaven with my amazing God and my family and friends and all that jazz. Sounds like a sweet set up to me.
Also, it's obvious that you don't have a clear understanding of what the "Christian afterlife" is. Yes, it's eternal. No, we can not fathom that. But, Heaven isn't going to be boring. We aren't going to grow tired of it. We will spend an eternity praising God. No pain. No despair. No tears. No death. No sickness. Just love and joy and peace all the time.
And life is not a test. Our lives are not our own to do with what we will. They belong to God. We are His. His love is infinite and merciful and greater than comprehension. He doesn't put us here to test us. We are his lab rats. We're His children. Sure, he wants us to follow the things he says, but as long as we believe in and love him, he doesn't hold a single sin against us.

Life, Heaven, Earth, all that is not just some big test. Just because God is all knowing, that doesn't mean all those things are meaningless or unrealistic. God is an artist. His creations bring Him joy. He didn't create us as a test, or to be cruel, he did it out of love. I suppose he wanted something to love.
God doesn't just create a person and say, "Well, your going to turn into a horrible person, Hell" He passionately loves EVERY soul. It's a love you can't even describe. And it's not like he says, "Well, you failed to do what I said, Hell". Like I said, if you love and believe in Him, he pardons every sin as if it never happened.

[Awesome Kid]

I believe in creation whole heartedly. I see too many holes in the big bang theory.
I also believe in a heaven or hell. Heaven will be a place of eternal joy; no more suffering, pain, or strife. If there is no afterlife, what would be the purpose of living? To come from nothing and then just fade to nothing? Only then would life be meaningless. I believe we all a purpose in this life, one that we must find.

[Sir Suomi]

Honestly, talking about religion in general, I'm pretty skeptic. There are roughly 4,200 different religions in the world that we have any knowledge about. Who's to say the 1 out of 4,200 religions are right? Religions were developed in order to help people cope with the real word, for example, the Scandinavians explained natural events such as earthquakes, volcanoes, blizzards, and thunder, as the acts of gods, when we all know that is not the case. Christianity took so much momentum was the fact that the common person, until recently, was oppressed by harsh leaders, and looked for a sign of a better life. The temptation of a blissful and eternal life which required following a strict set of guidelines proved popular with the common man. Hell, the actual history of the creation of the bible is pretty shady, when you read into it. Science, to me, seems to explain much more things. I mean, without science, we wouldn't have important things such as vaccines, life-saving medicines, etc. Now, if someone wishes to practice their own religion, I'm fine with that. But I get extremely angry when people use it to justify horrendous acts of intolerance, such as slavery, rape, and LGBT rights. That's where I draw the line.