Public Shootings

[ImCoolBeans]

The right to own a gun or not has nothing to do with this thread, please do not bring it into this debate.

What is the cause of all of these public shootings? I think everybody can agree that over the last few months in the US we've been hearing about nothing but shooting, after shooting, after shooting. There was one at a mall about 5 miles from my house last week, nobody was hurt except the shooter thankfully. I was there just hours before the scene unfolded. Pretty freaky. But what is causing all of this?

Some people blame video games, some people blame tv/movies, music, bad parenting, even all of the above.

Whatever it is that is causing this, can it be stopped or fixed? If so, how?

[teen.jpg]

I can't say much as you said you didn't want to hear about gun laws. But blaming video games is really low and pretty stupid.

[britishboy]

relaxed gun culture, whatever it is it must be stopped, from what im hearing from across the pond, it is happening far to regularly.

[Horizon]

Fame, the media. I think those two are the reasons that public shootings happening.

When a public shooting happens, it goes ALL over the news, and mainstream media. The shooter's name is said a billion and ten times everywhere, and they get debates and all that jazz.

And there are people in America who really feel like there is nothing in life thats worthy, nothing they can accomplish. They turn on the TV. Oh look, someone shot down a school full of young children! Awful. They news talks about it for the most of the show. Oh wow, look at that. He did something completely awful and got his name known all around the world! Wait a minute, he did something that I can do. I am sure I can do worse!

And thats all it takes, someone else now goes and does a shooting, and their name is all over the news, and known nation-wide. That's just my theory, though.

[sqishy]

The right to own a gun or not has nothing to do with this thread, please do not bring it into this debate.

What is the cause of all of these public shootings? I think everybody can agree that over the last few months in the US we've been hearing about nothing but shooting, after shooting, after shooting. There was one at a mall about 5 miles from my house last week, nobody was hurt except the shooter thankfully. I was there just hours before the scene unfolded. Pretty freaky. But what is causing all of this?

Some people blame video games, some people blame tv/movies, music, bad parenting, even all of the above.

Whatever it is that is causing this, can it be stopped or fixed? If so, how?

I'd say it's the people that are mentally unstable (generally really unstable) that are dangerous. A lot of these high school shooting have the shooter as someone who was at the school and is carrying out some sort of revenge/hatred against others they didn't like. But people with 'normal' thoughts and emotions wouldn't do this, so I'd put it on that.
Mental insecurity and instability. A problem (but not the only one). The other big one is having all the guns available in the first place.

[ImCoolBeans]

I do have to agree we do have a big gun culture here in the US. I think that definitely has a desensitizing effect on people.

[johndoe1112]

ignoring a problem until it's too late for example colubine you could oviously see that the kids where not right in the head and there parents where so blind i was watching there (home movies) and eather there fucking retarded or they just don't care

[whatsgoinon53]

The right to own a gun or not has nothing to do with this thread, please do not bring it into this debate.

What is the cause of all of these public shootings? I think everybody can agree that over the last few months in the US we've been hearing about nothing but shooting, after shooting, after shooting. There was one at a mall about 5 miles from my house last week, nobody was hurt except the shooter thankfully. I was there just hours before the scene unfolded. Pretty freaky. But what is causing all of this?

Some people blame video games, some people blame tv/movies, music, bad parenting, even all of the above.

Whatever it is that is causing this, can it be stopped or fixed? If so, how?

I'm from Australia and we have a mass restriction on guns but as you requested; I will not bring that into dicussion.

Maybe the American police need to look into the shooter's background and life. Better yet, look into all the shootings and the backgrounds of the culprits. They could then average up good and bad influences and see what the main bad influence in all of these people has been.

Our brains can tell us many different things, and all of us are vulnerable to temptations. Even murder... America might possibly need tighter security on venues that have been attacked or are at an obvious threat of an attack. There are many different reasons to toss up between but action does need to be taken against these outrageous break-outs.

[Southside]

Don't forget about the hundreds who have been shot dead in the streets of Chicago..The media never reports about them..

[Sir Suomi]

Mental instability and the Media. I say when a shooting happens, that his name and picture never even be shown. Erase him from the history books. Morn the lost, forget the monster.

[Luminous]

Fame, the media. I think those two are the reasons that public shootings happening.

When a public shooting happens, it goes ALL over the news, and mainstream media. The shooter's name is said a billion and ten times everywhere, and they get debates and all that jazz.

And there are people in America who really feel like there is nothing in life thats worthy, nothing they can accomplish. They turn on the TV. Oh look, someone shot down a school full of young children! Awful. They news talks about it for the most of the show. Oh wow, look at that. He did something completely awful and got his name known all around the world! Wait a minute, he did something that I can do. I am sure I can do worse!

And thats all it takes, someone else now goes and does a shooting, and their name is all over the news, and known nation-wide. That's just my theory, though.
I agree with this, mixed with drug abuse, and bad parenting. Neglect and/or abuse, pent up anger, depression, etc etc. There are so many different causes but I believe the main reason that it keeps happening over and over is because of the fame, people who believe that they will never get anything worthwhile done, and they know an easy way to get 'something' done.

[thatcountrykid]

I'm from Australia and we have a mass restriction on guns but as you requested; I will not bring that into dicussion.

Maybe the American police need to look into the shooter's background and life. Better yet, look into all the shootings and the backgrounds of the culprits. They could then average up good and bad influences and see what the main bad influence in all of these people has been.

Our brains can tell us many different things, and all of us are vulnerable to temptations. Even murder... America might possibly need tighter security on venues that have been attacked or are at an obvious threat of an attack. There are many different reasons to toss up between but action does need to be taken against these outrageous break-outs.

The police do look into the shooters backgrounds. Almost all of them are severly mentally instable. The others are kids who where raised by screw off parents and were never tought the right path. I mean i have several guns of my own and ive never shot up a school and thats becausr i was raised right to respect people as well as firearms.

[ImCoolBeans]

The police do look into the shooters backgrounds. Almost all of them are severly mentally instable. The others are kids who where raised by screw off parents and were never tought the right path. I mean i have several guns of my own and ive never shot up a school and thats becausr i was raised right to respect people as well as firearms.

You're going through similar thought processes to me. The problem isn't as clean cut as saying "you can own a gun" or "you can't own a gun". It's largely related to health care and proper medical attention being given to those who need it -- in most cases recently the offenders have been severely mentally unstable, and like you said, also have been severely neglected by their parents and have not been taught properly how to function, respect people or respect firearms (could also tie in with mental health).

I wanted this thread to be less about gun laws and more about other factors contributing to the issue at hand because it's very easy to get political and spout arguments about whether we should have stricter gun control or not, but then other contributing factors get left out. I feel like these details are often, if not generally always, left out of the conversation.

[whatsgoinon53]

The police do look into the shooters backgrounds. Almost all of them are severly mentally instable. The others are kids who where raised by screw off parents and were never tought the right path. I mean i have several guns of my own and ive never shot up a school and thats becausr i was raised right to respect people as well as firearms.

Tuche... Maybe it's just the fact that some people who own firearms, use them in extremely negative ways because of the way they were brought up or because of the potential mental instability they might have. However, I don't think that can be the only thing powering them! Even if their parents didn't teach them anything, they would still have been able to learn independently from watching the news or any TV show/movie that guns cause A LOT of harm and are extremely dangerous. Maybe that's the cause right there...? Because of the things they watch, they might think it's 'cool' to shoot guns and be a 'bad-ass'. There are so many causes and all of the ones we've discussed should be taken into account.

[Zenos]

if everyone knew how to defend themselves with and without weapond of various kinds including guns and people carried them.these fools blasting people with guns would be less likely to do it.they do this because they are weakling who want to strike out at a cruel and unjust world and they know in america they can get away with it because people dont go about armed for the most part and would rather rely on lawenforcement to take forever to get there to protect themo

[tovaris]

You people in the us are realy strange... People shooting at echother in piblic!!!! Lucky its on the other side of the Atlantic....

[Fanta_Lover44]

I don't know what the main cause would be, but what ever is happening it needs to be stopped.