ford bought out cummins and GM is going with Cat instead izuzu

[Professional Russian]

Anybody heard about those things lately? Are they true?

[Cognizant]

I heard that Nissan was taking in Cummins into their trucks as Chrysler/Dodge's contract with Cummins is expiring? Didn't know about Ford though.

[Cooper197]

Haven't heard much of it, but Cummins going into something other than a Dodge would be a nice change. I love those engines, but Dodge build quality sucks. It's annoying to have a 500,000 mile engine in a 200,000 mile truck. Seeing Cummins go to Nissan or Toyota would be amazing, but Ford makes sense, however it won't fix the build quality issue :(

[Professional Russian]

Haven't heard much of it, but Cummins going into something other than a Dodge would be a nice change. I love those engines, but Dodge build quality sucks. It's annoying to have a 500,000 mile engine in a 200,000 mile truck. Seeing Cummins go to Nissan or Toyota would be amazing, but Ford makes sense, however it won't fix the build quality issue :(
What are you talking about? Ford build quality is great. I have a 2000 ford ranger with 164k miles on it. Still runs great. I'm thinking the tranny might need rebuilt though.

[Galionmolt]

Neither are true. Ford used to own a minority stake of Cummins but they sold that. And Cat doesn't build any emissions-legal engines that could go into a pickup. Once the Tier 4 emissions standards came out they didn't even try to meet them. However it is true that the Nissan Titan will be getting the 5.0 Liter Cummins V8.

[Professional Russian]

Neither are true. Ford used to own a minority stake of Cummins but they sold that. And Cat doesn't build any emissions-legal engines that could go into a pickup. Once the Tier 4 emissions standards came out they didn't even try to meet them. However it is true that the Nissan Titan will be getting the 5.0 Liter Cummins V8.

They make tier 4 engines. I think its like the C1.5-C6.6 I know the C1.5 is tier 4 because the miller big blue pipe pro (http://www.millerwelds.com/products/enginedriven/product.php?model=M00336) uses one

[Cooper197]

Ford goes back and forth. The ones my family have had have sucked. The '08 Escape racked up miles quickly, and had several issues (not mechanical) within the first 80,000, which was about 18 months in. Literally had plastic panels falling and squeaking from all over the car. It was awful. Tends to be fairly normal for what my family has seen, however this was the first one to have parts fall off. It's not like we beat the crap out of stuff either, they just get driven a lot.

[Lisa12]

Anybody heard about those things lately? Are they true?

i wish gm would go with a big cat but ford did not buy cummins. alot of people think ford owns cummins but they are wrong because ford only owned a small 10 perent share in cummin stock in the 90s. they sold it back to cummins so ford does not own cummins.

[Professional Russian]

i wish gm would go with a big cat but ford did not buy cummins. alot of people think ford owns cummins but they are wrong because ford only owned a small 10 perent share in cummin stock in the 90s. they sold it back to cummins so ford does not own cummins.

GM uses C7 CATs in their commercial trucks

[Lisa12]

GM uses C7 CATs in their commercial trucks

i was talking about the silverado series trucks

[Professional Russian]

i was talking about the silverado series trucks

Believe me if they CATs in the Silverados id buy one instead of a dodge.

[Lisa12]

Believe me if they CATs in the Silverados id buy one instead of a dodge.

I think they would need a SFA to put a CAT in there. To bad CAT doesnt make on highway engines anymore.

[Professional Russian]

I think they would need a SFA to put a CAT in there. To bad CAT doesnt make on highway engines anymore.

I'm pretty sure they still do. I think the C6.6(??) Is capable of on highway use

[Lisa12]

I'm pretty sure they still do. I think the C6.6(??) Is capable of on highway use
No they dont. in 2010 Caterpillar backed out of the on highway engine market.

[Professional Russian]

No they dont. in 2010 Caterpillar backed out of the on highway engine market.

Well fuck

[Lisa12]

Well fuck

I know right? You can thank the government emmisions regulations for that.