compromise is needed!

[britishboy]

As many of you may know im conservative/ ukip and as for American politics I'm republican

but we must compromise! only allowing left or right wing laws to passed will leader to q horrid communist/ Nazi country

the NHS and gun control I support but are left views

my views for the economy and immigration is right wing

what do you guys think?

[Harry Smith]

Aha UKIP- have they got rid of the Nazis yet?

The answer is quite simple- progressive. The problem with UKIP is that their economic answer doesn't add up. It pretty much includes us leaving the market which gives us 56% of our growth. I wouldn't ever make an agreement with UKIP because I want to live in the 21st Century not the 19th Century. You can't support UKIP and the NHS at the same time

Left Wing laws won't lead to a communist state- Britain had a left wing leader for 13 years and we didn't become communist. The idea of comprise is great but it really doesn't add up for Britain. The problem with comprise is that it looks great on paper but then after a couple of months it falls apart

[britishboy]

Aha UKIP- have they got rid of the Nazis yet?

The answer is quite simple- progressive. The problem with UKIP is that their economic answer doesn't add up. It pretty much includes us leaving the market which gives us 56% of our growth. I wouldn't ever make an agreement with UKIP because I want to live in the 21st Century not the 19th Century. You can't support UKIP and the NHS at the same time

Left Wing laws won't lead to a communist state- Britain had a left wing leader for 13 years and we didn't become communist. The idea of comprise is great but it really doesn't add up for Britain. The problem with comprise is that it looks great on paper but then after a couple of months it falls apart

if we leave the EU people will still trade but I recently got a stern work from my father telling me to not complain at something I dont know, soooooooo I must listen to my father, my problem with the EU isn't trade it is power.

thats why im conservative again, where I live, the mp has been conservative for over 100 years and it is beautiful, also as my father on his pro conservative speech pointed out, the economy was terrible and it is picking up now, so labour is picking holes saying peoples living standards havent raised which is true, but things dont happen immediately.

im conservative now but I LOVE the ukip leader

did you not read what I said about compromise? parties must talk, somethings are good in all parties and in all parties there are bad

[Vlerchan]

The Left-wing and Right-wing have been compromising for the last thirty years. The mainstream Left have given up on Democratic Socialism near-entirely and have instead began to focus on strengthening the Welfare State whilst retaining our current Capitalist system. This is called the Third Way or Social Democracy. Now-a-days most of the parties are clustered around the centre - though you'll note that it's is 'Leftist' groups that are making the biggest changes.

I'm liberal - the capitalist sort. I still do sympathise with extremes like anarcho-communism, but I know that such a goal is most definitely unattainable, and highly utopian besides that.

[Harry Smith]

if we leave the EU people will still trade but I recently got a stern work from my father telling me to not complain at something I dont know, soooooooo I must listen to my father, my problem with the EU isn't trade it is power.

thats why im conservative again, where I live, the mp has been conservative for over 100 years and it is beautiful, also as my father on his pro conservative speech pointed out, the economy was terrible and it is picking up now, so labour is picking holes saying peoples living standards havent raised which is true, but things dont happen immediately.

im conservative now but I LOVE the ukip leader

did you not read what I said about compromise? parties must talk, somethings are good in all parties and in all parties there are bad

The economy isn't improving for everyone, it's not picking holes to point out that we've got a leader who stands up for a big energy companies and leaves the consumer on the floor.

I read it, but it didn't really suggest anything. It was just you saying that you support gun control but you're anti immigration. It didn't talk about policy or how you would get around the fundamental problem

[britishboy]

The economy isn't improving for everyone, it's not picking holes to point out that we've got a leader who stands up for a big energy companies and leaves the consumer on the floor.

I read it, but it didn't really suggest anything. It was just you saying that you support gun control but you're anti immigration. It didn't talk about policy or how you would get around the fundamental problem

and that is my problem with the conservatives, Cameron, he is weak, he is right competition is needed, however he shouldnt be a coward, he should regulate them he leads the country, we chose him and gave him power to regulate them, he has no excuse not to!

what I mean is that they should cool down and instead of searching to damage eachother, think what the people want and not be afraid to say, yes you was right

for example I support the republicans however i also support gun control and and stem cell research, if they talked things over we would get a much more efficient and useful

[Stronk Serb]

The idea of a compromise sounds good. The problem is, mostly UKIP, Conservatives and the Republicans will cling to the old ways no matter what. Not to mention the US Democrats. Labour pretty much gave up on their ultra-left policies, and their rule has benefited the UK the most.

[Harry Smith]

and that is my problem with the conservatives, Cameron, he is weak, he is right competition is needed, however he shouldnt be a coward, he should regulate them he leads the country, we chose him and gave him power to regulate them, he has no excuse not to!

what I mean is that they should cool down and instead of searching to damage eachother, think what the people want and not be afraid to say, yes you was right

for example I support the republicans however i also support gun control and and stem cell research, if they talked things over we would get a much more efficient and useful

That's the one general good thing about Britain is that we don't hold social issues in such high regard despite being a christian country where as 45% of Americans want to cling to social attitudes which are decades out of date

[britishboy]

The idea of a compromise sounds good. The problem is, mostly UKIP, Conservatives and the Republicans will cling to the old ways no matter what. Not to mention the US Democrats. Labour pretty much gave up on their ultra-left policies, and their rule has benefited the UK the most.

cough economy cough

[Harry Smith]

cough economy cough

Once again do you understand economics?

The crash was caused by American banks such as Lehman brothers giving out mortgages they couldn't afford. The labour government didn't cause the Global recession the banks did. The only thing labour did was not regulate the banks. The conservatives create an economy that benefits a select few people

Guess what the conservatives said in 2008- don't regulate the banks. The tories didn't oppose any of the spending plans between 1997 and 2008. They never said that they would spend less. If the Tories were so good why didn't they get a majority during a global recession?

Saying cough economy cough doesn't really represent an argument or a theory, it just shows that you learn a new word to apply to a debate. Your whole argument seems to be based on fact-less rhetoric without any meaning

[Stronk Serb]

cough economy cough

Yes. The economy was better under Labour rule. People had more money and they spent it. Now people have less money so they don't spend, why? The current laws allow and policies allow only a select few to benefit. If you want to better the economy, people need to spend.

[Vlerchan]

cough economy cough
The irony here is that it's was originally a conservative policy to commence the deregulation of the financial sector.

[britishboy]

after a long labour government our economy is terrible, after not even a full term of the coalition we are the fastest-growing economy in the 'west'

anyway my point is parties should stop focusing on damaging eachother and serve the country, and act mature

[Harry Smith]

after a long labour government our economy is terrible, after not even a full term of the coalition we are the fastest-growing economy in the 'west'

anyway my point is parties should stop focusing on damaging eachother and serve the country, and act mature

You've just ignord three posts which revealed something you didn't like.

Our economy was bad because of the GLOBAL finical crash- nothing to do with the labour party. If the conservatives had been in power they would of acted in the exactly same way-the stuff that Brown did in 2008 helped save our economy . One group says we're the fastest growing in the west- that's like saying out of four blind people which one has the best vision. The coalition is tearing Britain apart through massive cut backs and raised taxes. After half a coalition all we have is an increased VAT rate of 20%, people forced into part time work and living standards falling. If you ask the British people were you better off four years ago they would answer yes

You talk about working together with other parties when 10 minutes ago you were smearing labour for ruining an economy? That's double standards isn't it? If your going to insult a party's policies at least do it better. You can't go around telling the parties to be mature when you come on here and insult any-one who has a view that is opposite to yours

[Vlerchan]

Our economy was bad because of the GLOBAL finical crash- nothing to do with the labour party.
It had plenty to do with the Labour party. Whilst it may have been the conservatives who suggested 'light touch' regulation of the banking sector Labour were the ones who actually went through with it. The fact that it was happening in the worlds single largest economy also only ever deepened the crisis. Britian had already dug its own hole to begin with.

I don't know enough about British politics to comment further but I can say that Labour aren't completely faultless in all of this.

[britishboy]

I agree with Vlerchan, someone get so wrapped up in politics they very stupidly defend a party and lie for it, thats silly, I could list a flaw and positive on every party but I'm still conservative/ukip

[Harry Smith]

It had plenty to do with the Labour party. Whilst it may have been the conservatives who suggested 'light touch' regulation of the banking sector Labour were the ones who actually went through with it. The fact that it was happening in the worlds single largest economy also only ever deepened the crisis. Britian had already dug its own hole to begin with.

I don't know enough about British politics to comment further but I can say that Labour aren't completely faultless in all of this.

I never meant said that labour are faultless, I said the mistake they made was not regulating the banks enough-something that the Tories wanted to do less off. I get sick of the Tories acting like they opposed any of the spending between 97-2008. The actions of labour in 2008 helped save the country from ruin. The bailout of banks allowed the banks to actually function rather than close down causing a repeat of 1929. Britain went through the longest period of uninterrupted economic growth between 1997-2007. The labour party have a great deal more to be proud of than the tories of that era

I agree with Vlerchan, someone get so wrapped up in politics they very stupidly defend a party and lie for it, thats silly, I could list a flaw and positive on every party but I'm still conservative/ukip

I didn't lie at all, conservative/UKIP great party alliegance there. It's pretty ironic to have someone who's been homophobic, xenophobic and clasist to talk about silly political views.