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Mob Boss
October 29th, 2013, 01:13 PM
I'm not sure if this is the appropriate section for such a question. Mods please move this to the correct area if this isn't where you see fit.

This question might be.....impossible to answer without knowing the specifics, but I like the anonymity of this place. I'm too ashamed to even mention it to my friends in real life, let alone ask for advice or help.
My dad is a serious alcoholic. I'm not saying this to be dramatic or "woe is me". I don't want pity because it's just a card that happened to be dealt and that's life. Anywhoozer, he drinks at least a 6-pack of beer every night, though usually that's his minimum and he consumes quite a bit more. I no longer live with him. However I do see him nearly as often as if I'd lived with him (his neighborhood is fairly close to my apartment), and occasionally spend weekends at his house. So these aren't guesstimations, rather factual observations. On top of all the beer, I often find him drinking bottles of whiskey. He doesn't just sip it; I've seen entire empty bottles of it disposed in his trash bin. He also hides them in his pantry in places where no one would typically look. And even in my (old) bedroom, he has one or two empty bottles hidden in my dresser drawers. Every night he has to get drunk. There was a 3-day exception, in which case he wasn't allowed because he was actually in submitted to the hospital. He went to the ER one night because he thought he was going into cardiac arrest. They ran tests (i was there the entire time and even slept in my car for two nights in the hospital parking garage to be near even after visitor hours) and his blood pressure was extremely, extremely high. Countless doctors and nurses came in on various occasions to ask if he drank. Of course he lied -- he said he drank "very seldom", which is the biggest load of bullshit. I see him not just drink, but drunk constantly. One night I was at his house and it was so bad because I'd been yelling about him about his drinking. He automatically gets viciously defensive. Not just that, but gets angry like a caged animal. We both exchanged awful things I regret saying and hearing to this day.


Here's the thing, he exhibits every possible sign of alcoholism: he conceals it; drinks it in public; on weekends, especially, he gets drunk extremely early; he has to drink every night; gets suspiciously defensive when anyone points out how much he consumes; and lies incessantly to my two older sisters and I about it.
He doesn't understand what he's becoming. I honestly feel like I hate him. Every time I visit, I can't stand being around him like that, which HE ALWAYS IS like that. I've offered to go to every single AA meeting he wanted to with him, looked up countless counselors and/or rehabilitation centers. I've even poured out all the alcohol i could possibly find in his house, which resulted in him calling me a whole battery of crude names. I've tried baiting him by saying I'd no longer talk to him nor see him, which evidently wasn't motivational in the slightest.
I've also played the whole supportive card and tried to sympathize and set goals. All to no avail. He's getting immensely worse. I love him. I look up to him (yes, I still look up to him even through this). He's my dad. He's my hero. He's such an incredible person, man, father when he's sober. But I'm seeing that man less and less these days. It's inexplicably heart breaking to me. And please don't say it isn't my place to help him. He's my father and I'm going to do everything I can for him regardless of the whole parent/child roles that seemed to have swapped.

The only thing aside from being court ordered from acquiring DUI or whatever, what is there one could possibly do to push an alcoholic into some sort of treatment facility or program?

Living For Love
October 29th, 2013, 04:20 PM
I feel really sorry for you. I guess your dad will only accept being submitted to a treatment program when something really bad happens to him, a heart attack or something. Perhaps tell him how his behaviour is destroying your life. Ask him if he loves you and your sisters. Make him realise somehow that he has to stop it immediately. You could also talk to some of his friends or co-workers, but I know how difficult that can be.

Whatever happens, keep in mind that we become a totally different person when we're drunk, and therefore he might have told you things that he probably didn't meant. Good luck.

Mob Boss
October 29th, 2013, 06:50 PM
Don't feel sorry for me, please. I really hate pity. :p But thank you. I agree only something paramount will...shake him up. He has his first grandson arriving in February, was just in the hospital, and I'm constantly trying to help him. I'm not sure it's in my hands anymore, which is so saddening.

badthoughts
October 29th, 2013, 11:36 PM
There was a 3-day exception...when he was submitted to the hospital.
Other than high blood pressure, did he show signs of withdrawal?

Abyssal Echo
October 30th, 2013, 12:00 AM
My Father, Grandfather were and X Step dad is a functional alcoholic. My X Step dad was court ordered to attend AA meetings and go through Rehab. None of it did any good. Sorry to say this Bridg but, unless he decides he wants help or something serious happens there is nothing you can do.

Mob Boss
October 30th, 2013, 12:11 AM
Other than high blood pressure, did he show signs of withdrawal?

My mom showed signs of alcohol withdrawal when she had a hospital stay recently. She became delirious and had hallucinations. I think they set in pretty quick, probably within a couple of days.
Umm, yeah, actually. I remember him complaining about sweating when his room was frigid. And his hands were shaking uncontrollably when he held them up. He said he was just nervous, but that was.... beyond simply being anxious. I think he may have vomited once too, but I'd just associated that with one of the medications he'd been put on.

I'm sorry to hear your mom is.... presumably dealing with issues with alcohol as well.


My Father, Grandfather were and X Step dad is a functional alcoholic. My X Step dad was court ordered to attend AA meetings and go through Rehab. None of it did any good. Sorry to say this Bridg but, unless he decides he wants help or something serious happens there is nothing you can do.
Thank you, Mattie. I'm sorry you've experienced it. I know you're just being truthful and honest, but I can't explain how sad that makes me that there's nothing I can do. Umm, I honestly don't think he's ever going to budge. Nothing motivates him nor scares him. :/

CharlieHorse
October 30th, 2013, 12:13 AM
My Father, Grandfather were and X Step dad is a functional alcoholic. My X Step dad was court ordered to attend AA meetings and go through Rehab. None of it did any good. Sorry to say this Bridg but, unless he decides he wants help or something serious happens there is nothing you can do.

If he uses alcohol to drown out other things, maybe it would help to address those other things. Idk.
I think it also may be beneficial for you to go to someone like a therapist or counselor. They might know more about the solutions to this. Then you all might be able to get you dad in with the counselor/therapist and with you to talk about it.

I'm really sorry about this Bridge. :( I'm always here if you need to talk.

Katelyn6
November 24th, 2013, 04:16 AM
I'm not much help on advice but my dad is in AA and has been sober for 8 years so I know there is hope for yours.