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johndoe1112
October 28th, 2013, 12:14 AM
i have read many comments about drugs like weed and i have no problem with those post but then there is post about trying things like coke and the high for harder drug may be good and all there is a long term addiction they is near imposable to break. about a year or two after i was born my aunt died from a heroin overdose im am not sure how long she was addicted but it is not something that you can try once or twice and be done with it is something that is so hard to kick and will ruin your life and make you do things that you would not do in your right mind. im not saying not to smoke pot but just remember that mariwanna is a gateway drug and it might lead to something more extreme but just be safe is all im trying to say and i though i would share my story because i don't want anyone to make the mistakes that she made...

VictoriaGotaSecret
October 28th, 2013, 01:33 PM
Most people who do weed just do weed. It isn't really linked as a gateway drug, its just a label the gov put on it to scare people away.

snapple97
October 28th, 2013, 05:55 PM
It's a shame that people (good people) have to go through those things just because of a mistake they made. Best of luck.

To the point you made about marijuana: It isn't really a gateway drug, I'd like to see some conclusive evidence that supports that idiotic label put on weed by the gov't.

johndoe1112
October 28th, 2013, 06:22 PM
Most people who do weed just do weed. It isn't really linked as a gateway drug, its just a label the gov put on it to scare people away.

do you think that a drug dealer just wants you to buy the cheap stuff there going to try to convince you to go to a higher drug

snapple97
October 28th, 2013, 08:21 PM
do you think that a drug dealer just wants you to buy the cheap stuff there going to try to convince you to go to a higher drug

I've never heard of someone selling weed trying to convince their 'clients' to buy hard drugs. I mean, sure it can happen, but the stigma around weed is mostly bullshit.

johndoe1112
October 29th, 2013, 05:17 AM
i know some sketchy drug dealers in my area so i hear storys of it all the time

Raynes
October 30th, 2013, 04:22 PM
First of all, please remember that marijuana is legal in some states (some of them for actual recreational purposes and not just medical marijuana). Sketchy drug dealers want to sell you anything they can. Dispensaries just want to sell you marijuana because that's what they do.

You can absolutely try drugs like heroin once and move on with your life. You're not instantly impossibly addicted the moment you look at the drug. It's choosing to keep abusing it irresponsibly that causes destructive addiction.

johndoe1112
November 1st, 2013, 01:52 AM
First of all, please remember that marijuana is legal in some states (some of them for actual recreational purposes and not just medical marijuana). Sketchy drug dealers want to sell you anything they can. Dispensaries just want to sell you marijuana because that's what they do.

You can absolutely try drugs like heroin once and move on with your life. You're not instantly impossibly addicted the moment you look at the drug. It's choosing to keep abusing it irresponsibly that causes destructive addiction.

We have to stop demonizing marijuana, and frankly most drugs. The drugs aren't the problem. Marijuana isn't forcing your drug dealer to try to get you hooked on heroin. Marijuana isn't forcing you to take those drugs and become addicted to them. If you start using heroin and you develop an addiction, it's on you and nobody else. Drugs are chemicals that you choose to use or choose to not use. The solution to the problem is not to stay away, stay ignorant, scare people away, and avoid drugs at all cost. The solution is proper, factual, fundamental scientific education on those drugs and the wherewithal to make good decisions. If you don't have those things, you're pretty much doomed.

did i say anything demontising about weed hell i have smoked it before i'm just say i have scene people go down that road and yes you can be addicted from heroin the first time because people chase the high this is just one story i wanted to tell from my fucked up family but if you want to know more pm me

Raynes
November 1st, 2013, 01:28 PM
Sorry if it seemed like I was specifically accusing you for demonizing marijuana. It was meant to be a more general statement. Not calling you out for anything at all! :)

My point regarding heroin is that debilitating physical addiction does not occur after one usage of the drug. If it were so addictive that usage caused you to immediately have a severe physical addiction to the drug, it would be impossible to administer morphine to severely injured hospital patients. Physical addition will occur and become worse with prolonged usage of heroin. The reason people keep using it after the first time is the same reason they did it the first time: intense euphoria; the drug makes you feel good (even if while simultaneously condemning you to sorrow). Actual physical dependence comes next.

Anyways, this isn't a very fruitful argument. I'm just trying to make sure there isn't any baseless scaremongering happening here, and you're just trying to share a story about your family. I do not want to take away from what happened to your family, I merely want to make sure people are educated on the effects of drugs as opposed to what movies tell us about them.

Cheers, and I wish you and your family the best.

johndoe1112
November 1st, 2013, 01:52 PM
i do actually agree with you but there is a diffrence between medical use and non medical use. some ingredence in meth is for medical use and coke use to be used as medical use

Raynes
November 1st, 2013, 02:03 PM
Interestingly, the dextrorotatory form of methamphetamine is approved by the FDA for the treatment of obesity and ADHD, though it is rarely prescribed for obvious reasons. Cocaine is prescribed for anesthetic effects in Australia.

johndoe1112
November 1st, 2013, 02:19 PM
yep anything is good in moderation

VictoriaGotaSecret
November 5th, 2013, 02:56 PM
do you think that a drug dealer just wants you to buy the cheap stuff there going to try to convince you to go to a higher drug

If they did that then they are persuading the person to not buy from them anymore. That doesn't sound like something a dealer would do because they wouldn't do that.

johndoe1112
November 5th, 2013, 03:24 PM
If they did that then they are persuading the person to not buy from them anymore. That doesn't sound like something a dealer would do because they wouldn't do that.

why do you people who try crack get it free the first time because there always going to come back for more

VictoriaGotaSecret
November 7th, 2013, 09:44 PM
why do you people who try crack get it free the first time because there always going to come back for more

Maybe but most weed dealers only sell weed They might have connections to other drugs but they'd only tell you that if you asked.

TheBigUnit
November 10th, 2013, 07:54 PM
i have read many comments about drugs like weed and i have no problem with those post but then there is post about trying things like coke and the high for harder drug may be good and all there is a long term addiction they is near imposable to break. about a year or two after i was born my aunt died from a heroin overdose im am not sure how long she was addicted but it is not something that you can try once or twice and be done with it is something that is so hard to kick and will ruin your life and make you do things that you would not do in your right mind. im not saying not to smoke pot but just remember that mariwanna is a gateway drug and it might lead to something more extreme but just be safe is all im trying to say and i though i would share my story because i don't want anyone to make the mistakes that she made...

totally agree with you buddy

Lofiel
November 15th, 2013, 07:38 AM
I don't think teens should be using anything, really.