School shootings

[thatcountrykid]

Now before this turns into a debate in gun control id like to request that it doesnt. Bow to the subject

So today my state had a state wide(im guessing from what i heard) lockdown drill. Basically during this drill we turn off the lights, lock the doors, and crowd all oh the kids in that class into a corner. It got me thinking about the protocal. My father was one of the first responders to the columbine shootings and his sheriff departments SWAT team when through the library. It was told to me and makes sense to me that the only reason so many kids died was because the librarian forcedthem to stay there and under the tables trapping them. I always comply with the drill but in the real situation i would run and get as many out as i can. My question is do you think the protocal is right? Do you think it is fair for the student to be forced into the room by a teacher? Is it putting the students in more risk? And lastly does your school do this and would you comply?

[britishboy]

Now before this turns into a debate in gun control id like to request that it doesnt. Bow to the subject

So today my state had a state wide(im guessing from what i heard) lockdown drill. Basically during this drill we turn off the lights, lock the doors, and crowd all oh the kids in that class into a corner. It got me thinking about the protocal. My father was one of the first responders to the columbine shootings and his sheriff departments SWAT team when through the library. It was told to me and makes sense to me that the only reason so many kids died was because the librarian forcedthem to stay there and under the tables trapping them. I always comply with the drill but in the real situation i would run and get as many out as i can. My question is do you think the protocal is right? Do you think it is fair for the student to be forced into the room by a teacher? Is it putting the students in more risk? And lastly does your school do this and would you comply?

you could be running into a barrel for all you know, when all together it is easy for armed police to get to you fast, and protect/ save you.

[Cygnus]

It really depends on the person who has the gun and on their mentality. Sometimes the person won't shoot people who aren't moving and will probably kill anyone trying to escape (because that person will probably tell someone else), but a truly death-hungry person would kill absolutely everything that breathes, so it really depends.

[LuciferSam]

I personally think that it's more about trying to give us the idea that we're safe. If a nutjob wants to get into a room, they probably can! If there's a shooter at a school, it's usually a student, and they know about the protocol anyway, so if they want to do damage, they just shoot open the door, because they know everybody will be clumped in one place. They just give us these drills because it makes us think that we can stay safe and to keep us from panicking.

[Elysium]

I haven't actually seen or experienced firsthand what kind of position that would put the kids in, so I'm not sure. I'd imagine they'd be screwed if the gunman got into the room. Anyway, my school introduced lockdown drills this year, though we haven't actually done any yet (only been briefed on them). Would I comply? I have no choice, do I?

[kylem1229]

Remember that they could be at an exit door waiting for everyone to run out aswell

[thatcountrykid]

I haven't actually seen or experienced firsthand what kind of position that would put the kids in, so I'm not sure. I'd imagine they'd be screwed if the gunman got into the room. Anyway, my school introduced lockdown drills this year, though we haven't actually done any yet (only been briefed on them). Would I comply? I have no choice, do I?

I mean in the actual situation would you sit in the corner with all the kids or run out of the school.

[EpicTaco]

My school does have this, except we actually also check how fast the police can get there, and our protocol is to get out via windows and meet up outside in a covered area you can't see from the school.

[TheBigUnit]

Well when we are in lockdown drills we usually "joke" what we actually would do, usually we d barricade the door with desks then escape through the Window

[Southside]

I think the idea of a "lockdown" is dumb, like some of the people above have said, if a shooter wants to get into a room he is going to. A person can defiantly kick open a 30 year old wooden school door, or he can shoot the locks off.

I think the smartest thing would be to escape through the windows, though that idea would be horrible for my school considering it is 2 stories and the windows don't open smh...

[Elysium]

I mean in the actual situation would you sit in the corner with all the kids or run out of the school.
In the actual situation, I wouldn't have a choice. Teachers are instructed to immediately lock the door. Students aren't allowed out of the room.

[sqishy]

Ever since the Boston Bombings, state and city shutdowns seem to be getting way more common. Finding another way to catch the dangerous without putting everything to a halt could help.

[Harry Smith]

luckily for me we don't have to practice what to do when an armed gunman enters a school because it very rarely happens in Britain because we've got that thing called a firearms ban

[thatcountrykid]

luckily for me we don't have to practice what to do when an armed gunman enters a school because it very rarely happens in Britain because we've got that thing called a firearms ban

Please do not turn this into a gun control argument.

[Stronk Serb]

I would run. If I got cornered, I would try to free myself and run. Due to my school being as big as an elephant's ass and it being re-designed very badly, escaping or hiding in small groups is very easy. Pre-WW2 architecture makes for good cover and pompous halls are very easily covered.

[Harry Smith]

Please do not turn this into a gun control argument.

When you ask a question about how school children would react to a gunman entering a place of learning I think you have to question the laws of the nation it affects.

[Emerald Dream]

When you ask a question about how school children would react to a gunman entering a place of learning I think you have to question the laws of the nation it affects.

No, you don't. If you wish to argue about actual gun control then dredge up an older thread, or create a new one if one is not current. The topic was clearly stated in the OP. Please stay on it.

Personally, I don't really care what closet or corner they tell me to hide in. I am probably running like hell, as far away as I can go.

[Alex_3869]

I feel safer when I am with others going through the same thing as me. I feel safer when there is an adult figure whom I can trust. I feel safer when I have people i know surrounding me.
I would get into the classroom and i would hide because it is putting the mentality into my head, that IF it happens, we DO have a plan. I would not run away because it is making yourself a target, if you are running away, and the only one running away, while everyone else is in a classroom, then you make yourself a target.
HOWEVER
If everyone is running away in all different directions and the school had no lockdown plans, I believe that the gunman would have less of an opportunity to shoot you. While many distractions are happening. If you walk into a classroom with 30+ students who are all sitting still, then you gave yourself a MUCH bigger target, and would be more successful.

I hope my answer makes sense.