Pro-Life/Choice

[SawyerSauce]

*rant on*

What really bugs me about some people is that they support pro-life and they say things like, "Abortion is stupid" "Abortion is wrong" when they don't know and they don't understand how life works.

That girl was raped.
-Is it stupid or wrong now?

That girl is dirt poor.
-Well there's adoption.
You want her to give up the love of her life? That is cruel.
There are already thousands of children out there to adopt anyways. Pay attention to them, not this unborn child.
-There are ways around money.
Like taking money from the government or living off donations? That's selfish.

That girl just is not ready for a child.
-No one should have to do anything that they aren't ready for.

I don't think it's fair to women that choose abortion. People should be more considerate. Abortion is an emotionally devastating event. Do not make these women feel bad about taking care of themselves because it's not something you would have done. Be kind.

*rant off*

[britishboy]

another one of these debates? pro choice

[SawyerSauce]

another one of these debates? pro choice

No, just a rambling.

[Hollywood]

I don't really like the idea of abortion, but I still feel it's a woman's right to have the choice.

[Soulless]

Raped, fine.

The baby will be in physical pain as long as it lives, fine. (Not classing that as mental stuff, I know there's lazy ass whores that'd kill theur child because they couldn't be bothered to raise the kid)

But not because the baby's a girl, as some backwards ass Asians do, that's sickening.

And also not for stupid idiots who didn't use protection. Don't be ending no life for your dumb ass.

[britishboy]

No, just a rambling.

fair enough, I think men should have some right though, it is their baby as well

[Soulless]

fair enough, I think men should have some right though, it is their baby as well

Yeah this too.

If ever a woman pulled some abortion behind my back on our baby, I don't know what I'd do.

[Stronk Serb]

Pro choice.

[Cygnus]

Pro-choice, firstly because of population control which if not done now will drain our recourses, secondly because it can be justified, not only abortion, but death penalty and euthanasia. If you are suffering because of an incurable disease and are connected to a machine just to have a very subtle grasp of what little life remains wouldn't you just want to end it already? Wouldn't you want a criminal executed if he kills 100 people, if not what about if he kills the people you love? Wouldn't you rather abort than give the baby a miserable life? Think about it.

[Gigablue]

Raped, fine.

The baby will be in physical pain as long as it lives, fine. (Not classing that as mental stuff, I know there's lazy ass whores that'd kill theur child because they couldn't be bothered to raise the kid)

But not because the baby's a girl, as some backwards ass Asians do, that's sickening.

And also not for stupid idiots who didn't use protection. Don't be ending no life for your dumb ass.

I don't know where to begin with this post. Firstly, it's incredibly offensive to women. Most women who get abortions are hugely torn on the issue, and it's a very traumatic event for them. To dismiss them as lazy or stupid is just insensitive. Also, sex selective abortion is an issue in places other than Asia as well. Furthermore, that isn't a problem with abortion, it's a problem of misogyny.

However, the worst part of the argument is that it assumes the foetus's rights trump those of the mother. No one has the right to use the body of another without their ongoing consent. The foetus, through no fault of its own, depends on the mother for survival. If she decides to let it use her body, good for her. But if she decides, for any reason, not to, her decision should be respected. The government can't force you to use your body to support the life of another person.

[Soulless]

I don't know where to begin with this post. Firstly, it's incredibly offensive to women. Most women who get abortions are hugely torn on the issue, and it's a very traumatic event for them. To dismiss them as lazy or stupid is just insensitive. Also, sex selective abortion is an issue in places other than Asia as well. Furthermore, that isn't a problem with abortion, it's a problem of misogyny.

However, the worst part of the argument is that it assumes the foetus's rights trump those of the mother. No one has the right to use the body of another without their ongoing consent. The foetus, through no fault of its own, depends on the mother for survival. If she decides to let it use her body, good for her. But if she decides, for any reason, not to, her decision should be respected. The government can't force you to use your body to support the life of another person.

Drop the act, sister, you're not my FUCKING teacher.

I wasn't being offensive to women, I was being offensive to heartless bitches, of course not all women would love a child less if it was disabled in any way. World's fucked up enough as it is without adding that shit.

And woman, I may be gay, but I'm no misogynist.

Now, I said Asia because it's biggest there, you're knit picking.

YOU'RE stating the woman's rights trump the baby's.
Easiest way to serve both, is take the kid and put it in a home.

[Southside]

My only fight with abortion is how its always "Women's choice", if the fucking father is not a rapist, a relative that committed incest, or something like that, he should have a choice.

I'm pro choice but I'm kind of against abortion in terms of "lifestyle changes".

I support abortion for things like rape, incest, harm to mothers health, fetal defect, socio-economic factors, mother's mental capacity... etc

[Vlerchan]

Pro-Choice.

I also don't believe the potential father has the right to much of an input into the decision. It's preferable if the woman talks it over with him first; but at the end of the day it's the woman's body, and the final decision should rest with her.

[Jess]

Pro-choice, obviously.

It's the girl's or woman's decision on whether or not to have an abortion.

If she wants one, she should be able to have one and not have other people force her to go through with the pregnancy.

If she doesn't want one, that's fine, her choice, she shouldn't be forced to have one if she doesn't.

It's all about letting women being able to make their OWN choices about their OWN bodies.

I don't know where to begin with this post. Firstly, it's incredibly offensive to women. Most women who get abortions are hugely torn on the issue, and it's a very traumatic event for them. To dismiss them as lazy or stupid is just insensitive. Also, sex selective abortion is an issue in places other than Asia as well. Furthermore, that isn't a problem with abortion, it's a problem of misogyny.

However, the worst part of the argument is that it assumes the foetus's rights trump those of the mother. No one has the right to use the body of another without their ongoing consent. The foetus, through no fault of its own, depends on the mother for survival. If she decides to let it use her body, good for her. But if she decides, for any reason, not to, her decision should be respected. The government can't force you to use your body to support the life of another person.

this 100%

[Amazerful]

I'm pro choice even though I would personally never choose abortion

[satarra3180]

I don't really like the idea of abortion, but I still feel it's a woman's right to have the choice.

Completely agree

[Stronk Serb]

Drop the act, sister, you're not my FUCKING teacher.

I wasn't being offensive to women, I was being offensive to heartless bitches, of course not all women would love a child less if it was disabled in any way. World's fucked up enough as it is without adding that shit.

And woman, I may be gay, but I'm no misogynist.

Now, I said Asia because it's biggest there, you're knit picking.

YOU'RE stating the woman's rights trump the baby's.
Easiest way to serve both, is take the kid and put it in a home.

But what if the parents want to abort the child because they are irresponsible? If they were irresponsible not to have safe sex, who knows what could happen to the child.

[Harry Smith]

Pro Choice 100%, it's a case of regulation. I don't personally approve of abortion for every single case but that doesn't matter. The important thing is that the women has the opportunity to abort the baby or to keep it and then give it up for adoption. I also don't feel the Dad should have any decision in this, I mean how could you enforce it?

[Soulless]

But what if the parents want to abort the child because they are irresponsible? If they were irresponsible not to have safe sex, who knows what could happen to the child.

Deal with it, put it up for adoption.

Don't be killing people because of your own mishaps.

(Well, not yours)

[Harry Smith]

Deal with it, put it up for adoption.

Don't be killing people because of your own mishaps.

(Well, not yours)

It's not murder, that has been clearly defined by roe vs wade of 1973 ( I believe). If you take away the responsibility of the state to approve abortion the n you end up with it being carried out in dark alleys which will lead to the death of many women.

It's also ironic when conservatives use this argument yet they're happy to kill Iraqi citizens for simply trying to live in their own country

[sqishy]

Deal with it, put it up for adoption.

Don't be killing people because of your own mishaps.

(Well, not yours)

And what happens if the life of the mother and baby are in danger? There's the choice of leaving both die, or you can save one (the mother) by letting the other go.

Pro-choice. My opinion is solid.

[Soulless]

It's not murder, that has been clearly defined by roe vs wade of 1973 ( I believe). If you take away the responsibility of the state to approve abortion the n you end up with it being carried out in dark alleys which will lead to the death of many women.

It's also ironic when conservatives use this argument yet they're happy to kill Iraqi citizens for simply trying to live in their own country

WHAT has this got to do WITH IRAQ?

And since WHEN has the law been a infallible moral guidance?
Then I guess weed makes people heartless monsters too.

Pulling out cases doesn't get you boosts.

And what happens if the life of the mother and baby are in danger? There's the choice of leaving both die, or you can save one (the mother) by letting the other go.

Pro-choice. My opinion is solid.

Up for the mother and father to decide, I wouldn't block someone's decision in that department.


-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

[Harry Smith]

WHAT has this got to do WITH IRAQ?

And since WHEN has the law been a infallible moral guidance?
Then I guess weed makes people heartless monsters too.

Pulling out cases doesn't get you boosts.

Laws are very much defined by morals, homosexuality was considered immoral up until 1967 when it was made legal in Britain. As the idea of morals shift so do laws. I was making a reference in regards to Iraq and how the irony is very clear.

I'm not looking for boosts, I'm looking for an intelligent argument that stops a women having legal control over here body...

[Soulless]

Laws are very much defined by morals, homosexuality was considered immoral up until 1967 when it was made legal in Britain. As the idea of morals shift so do laws. I was making a reference in regards to Iraq and how the irony is very clear.

I'm not looking for boosts, I'm looking for an intelligent argument that stops a women having legal control over here body...

Dude... Dropping facts might get you some essay points but this AINT no ESSAY.

It's not control, it's rent, for 9 months. It's controlling the safety of a kid.

[Stronk Serb]

Deal with it, put it up for adoption.

Don't be killing people because of your own mishaps.

(Well, not yours)

The experience would be very traumatizing for the child, and children don't get instantly adopted, in some cases it is years before the child is adopted.

[Soulless]

The experience would be very traumatizing for the child, and children don't get instantly adopted, in some cases it is years before the child is adopted.

So we kill them.


Gay marriage should bring down the numbers a bit soon.

[Stronk Serb]

So we kill them.


Gay marriage should bring down the numbers a bit soon.

It is not murder. The fetus is not aware of anything until the later stages. It's the same as killing bacteria. A bunch of cells cobbled together don't make a child.