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Shawn is a potato
October 12th, 2013, 12:52 AM
So some of you may have heard about people being Transgender. People born in the wrong body, being born one sex, and feeling your gender is another. I, myself am an FTM, a biological female who presents and feels male. It's a fairly new concept in the US, and not to mention places like Russia. Transgender isn't very understood by people, or known, despite being the T in LGBTQIA (Yes, that's the full term, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer/Questioning, and intersex. There is also Pansexual and non binary). I am a Pansexual FTM who leans a little more towards girls. I am not a lesbian by liking girls, I am considered a straight male. I could be considered Gay also by liking guys, so liking guys is not me being straight, because my gender is male. See, gender, sexuality and sex are all different. My sex is female, my gender is male, and my sexuality is pan. All different. Thats what people need to understand the most, not to mention behavior, so if a man walks down the street in a dress, he is doing behavior typical of a woman, but he is not an MTF, a male to female trans* person necessarily, nor is he gay. Perhaps he just wants to wear a dress. Thoroughly confused now? Good, I am too.
ksdnfkfr
October 12th, 2013, 01:25 AM
Reads; looks again; rubs eyes; looks one more time; head explodes.
Popeye summed it up best, "I yam what I yam"
PS big thumbs up on your user name.
Abyssal Echo
October 12th, 2013, 01:39 AM
Yeah I've heard of Transgender. I don't know a lot about it. I'm sure there are some Transgender on VT but the only one I know of here is Victoria got a secret mtf.
Amazerful
October 12th, 2013, 02:54 AM
I'm so confused
NeuroTiger
October 12th, 2013, 03:16 AM
Well I've understood your post relatively well...I'm still positioning my point of view though....
Lovelife090994
October 12th, 2013, 03:20 AM
I've heard of transgenders and it honestly makes no sense to me. It's one thing to feel lost and like you're living a lie, it's another thing to try and be something you're not. I feel so mixed on the topic. To me you are what you are, no use changing it or thinking you aren't changing by being it. Be a little masculine, be a little a feminine, okay but when your gender and sex are question, there may be more to it than personality.
Jimmy-Downhill97
October 12th, 2013, 04:13 AM
I'm not judging and I certainly don't have a problem with transgenders or whatever, but I don't quite understand how it comes under the giant banner of LGBTQIA.
From what I understand, lesbian, gay and bi comes down to sexual attraction.
By your definition, what you live through is the mind believing or accepting that the gender in the mind is different to the gender of the body, from what I gather?
At risk of sounding sarcastic (which I'm not), I ask my question.
If someone believed, genuinely, that they were a fictional creature (I.e. A unicorn), they would be labelled mentally disabled.
Whilst not as extreme, the minds belief that someone in a female body is actually a male could, in my opinion, be seen as similar.
So, where does your condition (for lack of a better word) combine into LGBTQIA, instead of a mental disability?
I don't ask this because I have a problem with it (I couldn't care less, it doesn't concern me) but just because I'm curious.
I hope I haven't offended.
Luminous
October 12th, 2013, 06:25 AM
Yes, I've heard of transgender and I understood your post perfectly well.
Syvelocin
October 12th, 2013, 11:56 AM
Doesn't confuse me. I'm very familiar with all this.
I've heard of transgenders and it honestly makes no sense to me. It's one thing to feel lost and like you're living a lie, it's another thing to try and be something you're not. I feel so mixed on the topic. To me you are what you are, no use changing it or thinking you aren't changing by being it. Be a little masculine, be a little a feminine, okay but when your gender and sex are question, there may be more to it than personality.
Yeah, similarly I am an ally to trans people and I accept them and sympathize with them. I am part of the Gender and Sexuality Alliance at my college and know some great transgendered people. I personally cannot understand it, but I do grasp not feeling right in your body, not physically being what you are on the inside, and how frustrating that is.
I just like to explain my brain process though. I don't believe in gender, so in my head it's difficult for me to fully understand. Like, my sex is female but my gender is neutral/fluid. Other than our biological differences, I think mentally women and men are the same. There is also the difference that while I do consider myself gender neutral, I am happy with my sex anyway. I might be able to grasp it if I didn't prefer the female sex to the male sex. But I think body identity has nothing to do with mind identity, so you can see where I have issues.
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October 12th, 2013, 12:05 PM
I've heard of transgenders and it honestly makes no sense to me. It's one thing to feel lost and like you're living a lie, it's another thing to try and be something you're not. I feel so mixed on the topic. To me you are what you are, no use changing it or thinking you aren't changing by being it. Be a little masculine, be a little a feminine, okay but when your gender and sex are question, there may be more to it than personality.
What is there not to get? Somebody is uncomfortable and unsuitable with the sex they were born in, so they change to be more comfortable with themselves.
Not much more to it.
sqishy
October 12th, 2013, 01:18 PM
So some of you may have heard about people being Transgender. People born in the wrong body, being born one sex, and feeling your gender is another. I, myself am an FTM, a biological female who presents and feels male. It's a fairly new concept in the US, and not to mention places like Russia. Transgender isn't very understood by people, or known, despite being the T in LGBTQIA (Yes, that's the full term, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer/Questioning, and intersex. There is also Pansexual and non binary). I am a Pansexual FTM who leans a little more towards girls. I am not a lesbian by liking girls, I am considered a straight male. I could be considered Gay also by liking guys, so liking guys is not me being straight, because my gender is male. See, gender, sexuality and sex are all different. My sex is female, my gender is male, and my sexuality is pan. All different. Thats what people need to understand the most, not to mention behavior, so if a man walks down the street in a dress, he is doing behavior typical of a woman, but he is not an MTF, a male to female trans* person necessarily, nor is he gay. Perhaps he just wants to wear a dress. Thoroughly confused now? Good, I am too.
Yes. It is very complex, society needs to stop making it simple.
kylem1229
October 12th, 2013, 02:39 PM
I've heard of them before, never met one. It would akward if i did..
ShatteredWings
October 12th, 2013, 03:16 PM
your post confuses me, but
yes, there are other transpeople around, hi (note: I am veeerry inactive at this point)
no, a guy wearing a dress doesn't make him mtf, it makes him a guy in a dress. yknow, in the same way wearing pants doesn't make a girl ftm. it's just clothes, we live in a rather close-minded world.
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