the USA....yay or nay?

[britishboy]

ok just thought I would post this debate

I always loved America, it still is my third favorite country but recently I think it may not be as awesome as the legend makes it out to be, I am now hearing Americans really are as ignorant as the stereotype (I know there are exceptions, there are awesome Americans on here)

I also hear the goverment is running in default, however one thing I will never judge the US on is crime because every country has it, it's just they have guns

so what do you think? yay or nay they us?

oh and incase your wondering my favorite countries are
1. Australia
2. Great Britain
3. United States of America

[Cygnus]

I do not like the US for certain reasons, I think it is a terrible country. Even if I get shit thrown at me for this I will never like the US.

1. Most gringos are terribly ignorant and do not make an effort to learn more.
2. The average gringo thinks they can just sit there and things will get better.
3. The US are as much of terrorists as the taliban.
4. Gringos have an immense war-oriented attitude
5. Their "patriotic" sense is terrible. They think they are better than everyone.
6. Some gringos are very racist to latin americans and have been racist to me.
7. YOLO and SWAG and Miley Cyrus and all that stupid stuff comes out of the US.
8. Their consumerist and materialistic attitude is horrible.

[Mynick]

I do not like the US for certain reasons, I think it is a terrible country. Even if I get shit thrown at me for this I will never like the US.

1. Most gringos are terribly ignorant and do not make an effort to learn more.
2. The average gringo thinks they can just sit there and things will get better.
3. The US are as much of terrorists as the taliban.
4. Gringos have an immense war-oriented attitude
5. Their "patriotic" sense is terrible. They think they are better than everyone.
6. Some gringos are very racist to latin americans and have been racist to me.
7. YOLO and SWAG and Miley Cyrus and all that stupid stuff comes out of the US.
8. Their consumerist and materialistic attitude is horrible.
Plus all the no privacy what so ever.

[Hollywood]

Yeah, pretty much. If I could've chosen to be born someplace else I probably would have.

The thing that bugs me the most about people here is how lazy they are. Everyone just expects everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. And I live in the epicenter of the shit: the deep south. Everyone down here is so prejudiced and ignorant, it just blows my mind.

Obviously, not all the stereotypes are true. But unfortunately, many of them are.

[ArcticEagle]

From an American,
I do love my country but it really turned to hell. There are days where I wish to live somewhere else and there are days where I hope it will get better... but with our current government and some of these idiotic conservatives and the politically ignorant people who votes I just don't like this country anymore.. its hopeless.
My Great Grandfather who came from scotland to Canada and my Great Grandmother who was born in Canada. which both moved to the United States because my Greats got a job on the NJ railroads which was going to be temporary until both World Wars happened and family just stayed..
So I always felt my heart belongs in Canada and Britain which someday hopefully i may just go.
Now, when it comes to sterotypes of the united states, Just like Hollywood said Most are true but some are not. I been to the south many times, Like deeeeeep south (Alabama, mississippi, Georgia, Arkansas, Louisiana, South Carolina) and talk about Racism, Poverty, Ignorant, the list goes on....
The fact that this country is run by idiots, massive debt, shutdown, about to default, and just full of ignorant people makes me no longer proud... shame really.

[Camazotz]

1. Most gringos are terribly ignorant and do not make an effort to learn more.

2. The average gringo thinks they can just sit there and things will get better.
3. The US are as much of terrorists as the taliban.
4. Gringos have an immense war-oriented attitude
5. Their "patriotic" sense is terrible. They think they are better than everyone.
6. Some gringos are very racist to latin americans and have been racist to me.
7. YOLO and SWAG and Miley Cyrus and all that stupid stuff comes out of the US.
8. Their consumerist and materialistic attitude is horrible.

I think you're contradicting yourself here. This is our culture. And you only know and acknowledge the bad stuff.

Plus all the no privacy what so ever.

Public bathrooms usually have stalls. That's a form of privacy. There is some privacy. Not as much as we'd like, but there is privacy nonetheless.

The thing that bugs me the most about people here is how lazy they are. Everyone just expects everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.

The United States is arguably the hardest working nation in the world, to a point that we're becoming overly stressed and unhealthy of trying to do too much. What you're saying is a negative stereotype: it exists, but on such a small scale that it is not noteworthy.

And I live in the epicenter of the shit: the deep south. Everyone down here is so prejudiced and ignorant, it just blows my mind.

That's the culture of the South. I'm not excusing it, but the history and tradition of the South tends to point to racial and cultural ignorance. Sorry that you have to deal with those kinds of people, but don't group the good with the bad.

Obviously, not all the stereotypes are true. But unfortunately, many of them are.

Like I said earlier, stereotypes definitely exist, but the percentage of how many people they apply to is minuscule.

[Mynick]

Public bathrooms usually have stalls. That's a form of privacy. There is some privacy. Not as much as we'd like, but there is privacy nonetheless.
I guess you got what i was refering to anyways.

[Hollywood]

The United States is arguably the hardest working nation in the world, to a point that we're becoming overly stressed and unhealthy of trying to do too much. What you're saying is a negative stereotype: it exists, but on such a small scale that it is not noteworthy.

That's the culture of the South. I'm not excusing it, but the history and tradition of the South tends to point to racial and cultural ignorance. Sorry that you have to deal with those kinds of people, but don't group the good with the bad.

Like I said earlier, stereotypes definitely exist, but the percentage of how many people they apply to is minuscule.

Agree to disagree on the first part. Obviously there are many hard-working people here who put their blood, sweat and tears into everything they do. I have tremendous respect for those people, but the laziness in our culture is far more than just an insignifigant stereotype, in my opinion. It's an issue that isn't going away.

[Mob Boss]

Wouldn't that make you just as ignorant for believing a stereotype? That is known as generalizing, my friend, group people collectively based on the actions or occurrences of few in that group. Yeah? Not all Americans are ignorant, obviously. No, America isn't some Valhalla, but it's still a nice place to live and trumps a lot of other places. I'm not necessarily too fond of here, and not because it's that unbearable, but because of the stereotypes we're all heavy-ladened with. I understand someone is going to pull various stereotypes other countries have, but I honestly feel ours are more negative than most. And often cases such stereotypes are about our integrity and intelligence, or lack thereof. Both of which I seriously pride myself on continuing to improve about myself. Just like every other country on this planet, there are bad and good things about America.

We give out much more considerably substantial foreign aid to countries in need than a lot of other countries. And with our economy in the ruinous state that it is, it isn't the best idea, but we try to offer as much help and assistance to those in need. We're notorious for doling out copious amounts of foreign aid, which I'm not saying is always the most rational idea in the hat, but we do it. While some will probably babble on about it being some form of passive aggression to make other countries feel as they are in our debt, both monetarily and generally, or for us to fan out our colorful peacock feathers for all to see. At least we help quite a lot.

Not that I care too much, well I guess to some extent I do being an atheist. But we practice freedom of religion, you know? We aren't decapitating people left and right from religious persecution, like many countries still do to this day. (Not the whole head-chopping bit, but the persecution bit. I just thought it sounded deliciously gorey and pounded in my point). And while, yeah, religion still seems to have this ignorant cloud over us and has a way of influencing our government, we're getting there. For the must part we let people be individuals in that aspect and many, many others.

Entrepreneurship is what we thrive on -- letting the little man own something and create a business of his own. Sure we're doused with fat-pocketed commercial businesses and franchises, but people still have the ability to succeed on their own within their own business.

We're the melting pot. There are, of course, circumstances where racial discrimination has been sickeningly portrayed and are people that are ignorant enough to think judging people based on ethnicity makes one iota of sense. But for the most part we, as a whole, are accepting and welcoming of all cultures and ethnicities. We typically don't judge or have restrictions -- in every sense of the word-- based on one's ethnical background.



Military and politicians... I'm not even going any further past foreign aid. I personally think the majority of politicians are rat bastards that are really fond of the taste of lies that spew from their mouths. Once again, however, you'll find these guys everywhere; some in offices, some in sewages... Most places really. The military I don't know enough, nor care to know enough, to comment on.


So I'm terribly sorry we've dropped down on your precious list. Maybe in a few years you'll reevaluate, yeah? And we can be back up there. You don't understand the grief you've placed on us knowing you don't think so highly of us anymore.

[Stronk Serb]

No.
Many Americans are ignorant, not all, but a majority.
American nationalism is funny in many cases.
Not a lot of privacy with the NSA swooping around.
Political leadership which is as effective as the one in Serbia, pretty useless. It doesn't serve for the people, but for themselves.
The said leadership is warmongering a lot.
People who vote for a party based on the local trend, not based on it's beliefs
People saying it's the freest country, while it's clearly not
Having the death sentence
Spending way too much on unnecessary things, including ObamaCare and that crap.

[ArcticEagle]

No.
Many Americans are ignorant, not all, but a majority.
American nationalism is funny in many cases.
Not a lot of privacy with the NSA swooping around.
Political leadership which is as effective as the one in Serbia, pretty useless. It doesn't serve for the people, but for themselves.
The said leadership is warmongering a lot.
People who vote for a party based on the local trend, not based on it's beliefs
People saying it's the freest country, while it's clearly not
Having the death sentence
Spending way too much on unnecessary things, including ObamaCare and that crap.

I'll agree with you on everything except for the last part.
The Affordable Care Act is very necessary since everyone can be insured because its affordable and people cannot be denied for pre-existing conditions, Not only that, its benifits for women is great.

Which is another thing, our healthcare system is bad and outdated. Too Expensive and Private hospitals are corrupt and only want money that its just... awful.
But The Affordable Care Act is a step in a good direction.

[Southside]

I love my country, more specifically the music, the sports and the places though I don't like the government and how things are being ran.

I have no love for the "America, Were Number One"(AKA Patriotism) view of the world.

I don't like how we bomb innocent people in the Middle-East and then lie on TV saying its all in the name of "fighting terrorism"

I don't like how we are giving 30 billion annually to fund the genocidal campaigns of Israel

I hate how the government is spying on us and spending billions of our tax dollars on mass surveillance in the name of "counterterrorism".

Government serves corporate interest, not the interest of the people.

Yay for culture,sports,music Nay for the government.


Britishboy has the idea that America is some land of lilies and daisies because he's been to a few tourist attractions here, its not.

[kylem1229]

I Love America....all countries have issues. But nothing has affected my family so far yet. Define Freedom. I still can get out and drive around and travel. Thats freedom right there. We still have freedom to use the internet. I dont care if its monitored or not.

'MERICA

I will always stand by my country no matter what. Thats the way I was born and raised and intend to stay
http://www.wallpapersma.com/wallpapers/2013/01/Eagle-Flag-U.s.-America-Bird-400x240.jpg

[LouBerry]

It's horrible. I mean, I'm sure every country has major faults, but we are literally about to run ourselves into the ground.

[Stronk Serb]

I'll agree with you on everything except for the last part.
The Affordable Care Act is very necessary since everyone can be insured because its affordable and people cannot be denied for pre-existing conditions, Not only that, its benifits for women is great.

Which is another thing, our healthcare system is bad and outdated. Too Expensive and Private hospitals are corrupt and only want money that its just... awful.
But The Affordable Care Act is a step in a good direction.

You wound up paying more. A cheaper solution would'we been if you took the system like the one in the UK. Everyone pays a percent of their salary and get's access to health services needed. From a minor flu to a brain or heart surgery and organ transplatation.

I love my country, more specifically the music, the sports and the places though I don't like the government and how things are being ran.

I have no love for the "America, Were Number One"(AKA Patriotism) view of the world.

I don't like how we bomb innocent people in the Middle-East and then lie on TV saying its all in the name of "fighting terrorism"

I don't like how we are giving 30 billion annually to fund the genocidal campaigns of Israel

I hate how the government is spying on us and spending billions of our tax dollars on mass surveillance in the name of "counterterrorism".

Government serves corporate interest, not the interest of the people.

Yay for culture,sports,music Nay for the government.


Britishboy has the idea that America is some land of lilies and daisies because he's been to a few tourist attractions here, its not.

My thoughts exactly. It has good sides and bad sides. All countries do. I' d love to visit some places there.

[Jess]

Sometimes I love the US but sometimes I also do not. At times I am glad to have been born in Canada (other times not).

It's done some pretty bad things; Comrade Mike also basically listed all the bad things of which most of them I agree with (that they're bad, I mean).

[Cognizant]

You know, I don't mind the United States. People always nitpick the bad culture, and completely skim over the good culture to prove their point that the US is a horrible place.

I'm content with living where I live, and I'm probably not going to leave for some time. The only issue I would have with where I live is the cleanliness can sometimes be pretty sour.

[sqishy]

I like certain technology/architecture/science/art things that are in the US, but otherwise I think the country as a whole has a superiority complex, are too religious, with fighting politics, have an overpowered military, take things for granted, and are materialist. I don't mean everyone there, I mean the majority. So NAY.

So what are my favourite countries in order? I don't have any, because I don't go along with the whole national pride thing. Not when it comes to doing it for your own country's sake at least. I think the idea of countries have outstayed its welcome.

[TheBigUnit]

You guys basically pointed mostly all the bad but also some good from usa,

camatotz is right that usa is arguable the hardest working nation,

comrademike is also right in some points too especially with our politics,

honestly though if i were given the choice to pick any country to be a citizen in id pick the usa, plenty of reasons including the fact that i am given the chance to say anything i want, for example "obama is doing a shitty job as president" and not fear for my welfare saying that,

my favorite thing is seeing you guys here trying to fix americas budget by simply taking this out or putting this in, thats not how the world works unfortunately

many of you like watching all the super "investigative truth telling news stations" that likes calling america the "imperialists" do you guys not realize that these stations have their own agendas and want to fill an ever growing market against usa, heck this market starting to be more profitable then being pro usa, they call in people from no name universities trying to be famous, that "i told you so" analyst, or people like jesse ventura, the guy wore a freakin tie-dye shirt to his interview..and he want to run for president???
not everything is as clear cut as you think

5. Their "patriotic" sense is terrible. They think they are better than everyone.
7. YOLO and SWAG and Miley Cyrus and all that stupid stuff comes out of the US.

define "patriotic" sense then

i mean i guess youre right usa is that influential with its culture to make them world famous, you have to kidding if usa is to blame for it though its just that you live here you only see one side of it, go to other countries and you will see other crazy people trying to milk money from children those crazy ego famous people are all over this world

[Cygnus]

define "patriotic" sense then

By patriotic sense I mean "we're gonna free the fuck out of Syria by invading it" or "America is the best, now go mow my lawn latino, your people are jealous of us because we are white and rich".

[Mob Boss]

By patriotic sense I mean "we're gonna free the fuck out of Syria by invading it" or "America is the best, now go mow my lawn latino, your people are jealous of us because we are white and rich".

Wow, dude. Honestly? That, whatever the hell dictionary you found that in, is a seriously misconstrued definition of patriotism. That is being racist and prejudice, which is disgusting and ignorant. Patriotism is saying the pledge of allegiance , welcoming home troops that -- regardless of right or wrong -- have risked their own lives for the sake of other's, patriotism is a moment of silence some of us participate in every September 11th morning to remember those who had lost their lives. Those of any and every ethnicity that lost their lives on American soil. So don't give that pathetic, awful scenario and frame that as American patriotism because some abominable American did that. That isn't patriotism, that's someone being a bastard; a sub-species of human beings that just so happen to inhabit most places. America isn't run rampant with people like that. Patriotism doesn't mean one has to agree with every thing their country has done. America has made countless mistakes. This isn't a newsflash we've all just woken up to see scrolling on our tv screens. We've also done a great deal of good that everyone seems to coincidentally forget when it comes time to bash us.

Pertaining to Syria - Assad has used chemical weapons on the Syrian people. Are we to sit idly by while families are gassed and killed all so we look like kind people that sit back and not try to control the situation. I'm not saying war is the answer, simply saying we're not going over there to invade because they've got a nice coffee shop with an expresso that is supposed to be to die for.


I honestly think I should take your replies with a grain of salt. I mean, you used Miley Cyrus... One resident (albeit an awful one) in the pop culture community as one of your points. That's a bit subjective and definitely not conclusive proof that we're this monster of a country. Give me a break.

[TheBigUnit]

By patriotic sense I mean "we're gonna free the fuck out of Syria by invading it" or "America is the best, now go mow my lawn latino, your people are jealous of us because we are white and rich".

not only is that not the meaning of "patriotic", you are mentioning a small minority ....where are you from? the deep south?

[teen.jpg]

I do not like the US for certain reasons, I think it is a terrible country. Even if I get shit thrown at me for this I will never like the US.

1. Most gringos are terribly ignorant and do not make an effort to learn more.
2. The average gringo thinks they can just sit there and things will get better.
3. The US are as much of terrorists as the taliban.
4. Gringos have an immense war-oriented attitude
5. Their "patriotic" sense is terrible. They think they are better than everyone.
6. Some gringos are very racist to latin americans and have been racist to me.
7. YOLO and SWAG and Miley Cyrus and all that stupid stuff comes out of the US.
8. Their consumerist and materialistic attitude is horrible.

Please ... the references to our Pop Culture are so far off. And what you said about "gringos" could apply to anybody from any country, so I don't see how Americans are specifically a problem with ignorance or intolerance.

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Living in the US is pretty good, but once you get into politics or social issues it takes a very drastic turn for the worse.

[Camazotz]

Agree to disagree on the first part. Obviously there are many hard-working people here who put their blood, sweat and tears into everything they do. I have tremendous respect for those people, but the laziness in our culture is far more than just an insignifigant stereotype, in my opinion. It's an issue that isn't going away.

I think that's more of a self-stereotype. I've been out of the country a couple times, and the people I spoke to say that Americans work too hard, too often.
It stems from tradition, the "American Dream." I think recent events make people frown upon the "fat, lazy Americans" as opposed to looking at the civil movements that have occurred because of the persistence of the "American attitude."

You know, I don't mind the United States. People always nitpick the bad culture, and completely skim over the good culture to prove their point that the US is a horrible place.

:yes:

Please ... the references to our Pop Culture are so far off. And what you said about "gringos" could apply to anybody from any country, so I don't see how Americans are specifically a problem with ignorance or intolerance.

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Living in the US is pretty good, but once you get into politics or social issues it takes a very drastic turn for the worse.

:yes: American culture is more than Miley Cyrus and Lady Gaga. The United States has produced artistically in the field of cinema than any other country (since it's a new invention, as opposed to music, which is so much older that out European friends have us beat, although we developed jazz/blues, hip-hop, etc.)

People just like to look at faults, regarding anything. I won't deny that the United States has its problems- we're a country, just like any other. But we also have things that set us apart from other places in the world, and I appreciate such things.

[teen.jpg]

I think that's more of a self-stereotype. I've been out of the country a couple times, and the people I spoke to say that Americans work too hard, too often.
It stems from tradition, the "American Dream." I think recent events make people frown upon the "fat, lazy Americans" as opposed to looking at the civil movements that have occurred because of the persistence of the "American attitude."



:yes:



:yes: American culture is more than Miley Cyrus and Lady Gaga. The United States has produced artistically in the field of cinema than any other country (since it's a new invention, as opposed to music, which is so much older that out European friends have us beat, although we developed jazz/blues, hip-hop, etc.)

People just like to look at faults, regarding anything. I won't deny that the United States has its problems- we're a country, just like any other. But we also have things that set us apart from other places in the world, and I appreciate such things.


Besides, "yolo" is so 2010 ....
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[Steven1]

I like the USA. It's my favourite country, even in front of my home country, the UK. I'm highly considering moving there when I'm older.

[TheBigUnit]

I think that's more of a self-stereotype. I've been out of the country a couple times, and the people I spoke to say that Americans work too hard, too often.
It stems from tradition, the "American Dream."

Ive heard the same myself

[EddietheZombie]

I love America, just not the stupid people and the politicians.

[Cygnus]

Enjoy your sub-par education, foreigner.

See what I'm talking about?

Also, when I say ignorance I also refer to the enormous lack of international sense. Gringos think they are a pangea.

[Walter Powers]

Obviously, I love America. We are the best country in the history of world, for pete's sake our flag is on the moon! I know that some of the people on here in third world country's may disagree and would rather live where they do, but the bottom line is that facts back it up! If anybody wants to debate that with me, they are welcome to. Please have a nation that you think is better ready.

[Jaster]

To put my opinion in the shortest way possible...you can love your country without loving the government

[britishboy]

Obviously, I love America. We are the best country in the history of world, for pete's sake our flag is on the moon! I know that some of the people on here in third world country's may disagree and would rather live where they do, but the bottom line is that facts back it up! If anybody wants to debate that with me, they are welcome to. Please have a nation that you think is better ready.

cough Australia cough:D depends what you want, power? US no doubt but for clean air maybe Switzerland? but for views culture and architecture it would be Australia

it depends what you want in a country, the US has many things that would make people run from it, it also has many that make people like me and you love it, its all opinions

[Emerald Dream]

Obviously, I love America. We are the best country in the history of world, for pete's sake our flag is on the moon! I know that some of the people on here in third world country's may disagree and would rather live where they do, but the bottom line is that facts back it up! If anybody wants to debate that with me, they are welcome to. Please have a nation that you think is better ready.

As much as I love my country - what you call "facts" everyone else calls opinions....as like others have said, you can pick whatever categories you want to look at and find different answers as to who or what is "best."

So, yeah. "Back it up" or stop spouting off blind love.

[dsi411]

I do not like the US for certain reasons, I think it is a terrible country. Even if I get shit thrown at me for this I will never like the US.

1. Most gringos are terribly ignorant and do not make an effort to learn more.
2. The average gringo thinks they can just sit there and things will get better.
3. The US are as much of terrorists as the taliban.
4. Gringos have an immense war-oriented attitude
5. Their "patriotic" sense is terrible. They think they are better than everyone.
6. Some gringos are very racist to latin americans and have been racist to me.
7. YOLO and SWAG and Miley Cyrus and all that stupid stuff comes out of the US.
8. Their consumerist and materialistic attitude is horrible.
Those blue ones seem to all come from the same type of American

I couldn't imagine living anywhere else, but Australia would probably be fun. Europe doesn't make enough babies and the population is getting old and ruining the economy.



I don't like how we bomb innocent people in the Middle-East and then lie on TV saying its all in the name of "fighting terrorism"

Yeah, what a bunch of idiots, hurting innocent people.

You guys basically pointed mostly all the bad but also some good from usa,

camatotz is right that usa is arguable the hardest working nation,

comrademike is also right in some points too especially with our politics,

honestly though if i were given the choice to pick any country to be a citizen in id pick the usa, plenty of reasons including the fact that i am given the chance to say anything i want, for example "obama is doing a shitty job as president" and not fear for my welfare saying that,

my favorite thing is seeing you guys here trying to fix americas budget by simply taking this out or putting this in, thats not how the world works unfortunately

many of you like watching all the super "investigative truth telling news stations" that likes calling america the "imperialists" do you guys not realize that these stations have their own agendas and want to fill an ever growing market against usa, heck this market starting to be more profitable then being pro usa, they call in people from no name universities trying to be famous, that "i told you so" analyst, or people like jesse ventura, the guy wore a freakin tie-dye shirt to his interview..and he want to run for president???
not everything is as clear cut as you think



define "patriotic" sense then

i mean i guess youre right usa is that influential with its culture to make them world famous, you have to kidding if usa is to blame for it though its just that you live here you only see one side of it, go to other countries and you will see other crazy people trying to milk money from children those crazy ego famous people are all over this world
You know there are other countries with freedom, right?


By patriotic sense I mean "we're gonna free the fuck out of Syria by invading it" or "America is the best, now go mow my lawn latino, your people are jealous of us because we are white and rich".

That offends me...hehe

-merged multiple posts. -Emerald Dream

[Cygnus]

That offends me...hehe

Does it really? Because you said a similar thing to me in chat

[dsi411]

See what I'm talking about?

Also, when I say ignorance I also refer to the enormous lack of international sense. Gringos think they are a pangea.
Don't worry, white people aren't having enough babies and they'll all be gone soon. Then we Nigerians will take their place and conquer the world! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously, I love America. We are the best country in the history of world, for pete's sake our flag is on the moon! I know that some of the people on here in third world country's may disagree and would rather live where they do, but the bottom line is that facts back it up! If anybody wants to debate that with me, they are welcome to. Please have a nation that you think is better ready.
Canada! No... the UK! Or maybe Australia?
Let us begin the debate.

Does it really? Because you said a similar thing to me in chat
Uh, do you not know what a JOKE is?

-please do not double post. -Emerald Dream

[teen.jpg]

See what I'm talking about?

Also, when I say ignorance I also refer to the enormous lack of international sense. Gringos think they are a pangea.

And you're generalizing all americans for what reason exactly?

[Southside]

Obviously, I love America. We are the best country in the history of world, for pete's sake our flag is on the moon! I know that some of the people on here in third world country's may disagree and would rather live where they do, but the bottom line is that facts back it up! If anybody wants to debate that with me, they are welcome to. Please have a nation that you think is better ready.

How are we the best country in the history of the world?

Our overpowered military?

The fact that some people are dying because they cant afford healthcare or quality healthcare at that?

How about the gun crazy culture that has seen 500+ killed last year in the third biggest city in America or the 26 people who died in Newtown?

Our prison industrial complex that has 2.3 million incarcerated?

The fact that our government is spying on us and spending billions of our tax dollars doing so? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/29/nsa-black-budget_n_3838563.html

The failing education system that has America ranked at 17th in the global education rankings?

Political parties(Both Democrat & Republican) that put political agendas and corporate interest before citizens?

Our illegal drone wars in Pakistan?

Our funding(30 billion annually) of the illegal occupations of Israel against Palestine?

Oh I know...our constitution that was written by a bunch of guys who owned slaves!

Best country in my opinion would have to be Australia,Canada, or one of the Scandinavian countries..

[HUSTLEMAN]

I do not like the US for certain reasons, I think it is a terrible country. Even if I get shit thrown at me for this I will never like the US.

1. Most gringos are terribly ignorant and do not make an effort to learn more.
2. The average gringo thinks they can just sit there and things will get better.
3. The US are as much of terrorists as the taliban.
4. Gringos have an immense war-oriented attitude
5. Their "patriotic" sense is terrible. They think they are better than everyone.
6. Some gringos are very racist to latin americans and have been racist to me.
7. YOLO and SWAG and Miley Cyrus and all that stupid stuff comes out of the US.
8. Their consumerist and materialistic attitude is horrible.

You sir have nailed America on the head and I live in it. To the OP if you asked me 1 year ago about how I feel for my country I would have responded with very patriotic singing about America in all its glory but since then I've realized exactly where we stand and right now its all going down the drain. America Sucks, Take that NSA because we all know you're watching :)

[Kameraden]

You'll all profess your hatred for America until it leaves NATO and doesn't come to your aid when darkness once more looms over Europe.

[Left Now]

What are you really quarreling about?

USA is a country,and all countries have their own advantages and disadvantages.(However,I agree that its disadvantages are more than advantages;personally)

You know,I don't think most of their people are really arrogant,but most of US politicians really are.

[TheBigUnit]

you know what the funny thing is? americans are the only people that judges a country by its people rather than the government, my social studies teacher was one of the first americans in communist china and the chinese told him that they really didnt mind americans in general but they didnt like our gov, thats how we should be like in our outlook, you have generally the same kinds of people in every country, the rednecks, the divas etc but you also have very kind genuine people too, we all have our issues but our common problem is our gov

[Mynick]

Obviously, I love America. We are the best country in the history of world, for pete's sake our flag is on the moon! I know that some of the people on here in third world country's may disagree and would rather live where they do, but the bottom line is that facts back it up! If anybody wants to debate that with me, they are welcome to. Please have a nation that you think is better ready.
Feel free with link those facts, if possible ofc. And please explain me how having your flag on the moon makes America a better country.

You'll all profess your hatred for America until it leaves NATO and doesn't come to your aid when darkness once more looms over Europe.
I profess my hate for US Gov.
'when darkness once more looms over Europe.' My crystal ball broke, plus i would love that you would explain this a bit better. You know, educate me.

[Cygnus]

Obviously, I love America. We are the best country in the history of world, for pete's sake our flag is on the moon! I know that some of the people on here in third world country's may disagree and would rather live where they do, but the bottom line is that facts back it up! If anybody wants to debate that with me, they are welcome to. Please have a nation that you think is better ready.

You say you want to debate with facts, where are yours? You are just wildly claiming something. Having a flag in the moon doesn't make you the best country ever, and you have only gone to one other country, you still have much to see, you are claiming stuff because thats the only place you have ever really been in.

[Emerald Dream]

Let's please keep on-topic and refrain from petty little jabs at each other. That's not debating.

[britishboy]

I thought this thread was on topic?

anyway UK rules:P http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-flag013.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[tovaris]

Let them (USA) go bancropt and sink below the bottom is what i say.

[ciaran17]

I lived in America for 4 years and they have a much more relaxed lifestyle and better community spirit compared to England where everyone seems to be rushing all the time. In some aspects it is good, but I'll pick Britain over America any day. P.S. Guys your music is god awful and your accent makes my ears bleed.

[Croconaw]

America is awesome because I live there. Although, my opinion might be considered biased.

[Cygnus]

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