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Whisper
January 28th, 2008, 03:01 PM
Canada will pull its 2,500 troops out of Afghanistan early next year unless NATO sends in significant reinforcements, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Monday, signaling Ottawa has lost patience with what it sees as foot-dragging by allies.

Harper, who wants the soldiers to stay longer than their current withdrawal date of February 2009, said NATO's failure to station enough forces in Afghanistan meant the whole future of the organization was under serious threat.


He said he accepted the recommendations of an independent panel which last week urged Canada to end its mission in the southern city of Kandahar unless NATO provided an extra 1,000 troops as well as helicopters and aerial reconnaissance vehicles.


"For this mission to go forward and achieve its objectives and be successful, we do have the need for a substantial increase in combat troops and particular needs in terms of military equipment," Harper told a news conference.


"Both of those recommendations will have to be fulfilled or Canada will not proceed with the mission in Afghanistan. We believe these are essential to our success."


Canada is exasperated at the refusal of many other NATO nations to commit more troops to Afghanistan, in particular to southern areas where the Taliban is strong.


So far, 78 Canadian soldiers and a diplomat have died since Ottawa deployed troops to Afghanistan in 2002. Polls show Canadians are split over the wisdom of the mission.


"NATO's reputation is on the line here ... all the increasing evidence suggests that NATO's efforts in Afghanistan as a whole are not adequate, but particularly in Kandahar province," Harper said.

"Canada has done what it said it would do and more. We now say we need help. I think if NATO can't come through with that help, then I think -- frankly -- NATO's own reputation and future will be in grave jeopardy."


Harper, saying he was "always optimistic on these things," said he would raise Canada's demand for more troops with its allies before NATO leaders hold a summit in the Romanian capital Bucharest in early April.


His bid to prolong the mission is also complicated by his fragile hold on power. The Conservatives hold a minority of seats in the House of Commons and require the support of at least one opposition party to pass legislation.
One of the opposition parties wants the troops out now, while the other two have said soldiers should stay longer only if their combat role fighting Taliban militants came was ended.


Harper said he had already spoken to Stéphane Dion, the leader of the main opposition Liberal Party, and would ask the House of Commons this spring to approve the way forward on the Afghanistan mission.


He declined to say whether he would make this a matter of confidence, saying his strong preference was to come up with a motion that would win the support of the House.

Hauptmann Kauffman
January 28th, 2008, 03:02 PM
Hmm, that doesnt sound too good. The world needs those troops in Afghanistan.

Whisper
January 28th, 2008, 03:17 PM
Ya well I think that the rest of NATO (not the United States or the UK there doing ALLOT) need to either step the fuck up or we should walk

Hauptmann Kauffman
January 28th, 2008, 03:18 PM
I guess I can see and understand the point being made, but still, we shouldnt weaken the already weak forces over there by pulling out of Afghanistan

Whisper
January 28th, 2008, 03:28 PM
We've never been afraid of a fight but were peace keepers not soldiers
Our military has been scaled back allot since the cold war era, we've simply had no need for a massive force
We got rid of our nukes and downsized pretty much everything

We've spent billions upon billions of dollars on our military since 9-11 (for us billions is ALLOT our populations that of California dude and were running an entire country)


Whats really pissing Canadians off is that we don't have the support for other so called allied nations like France, Germany, etc... who have been VERY reluctant to put there soldiers anywhere near a place where they may come under fire

We don't have the airlift capability's that allot of other member nations do and they wont even lend us some choppers so our soldiers don't get blown up from IED's
Were losing allot of people not just because its dangerous, but because our allies (the whole reason NATO was formed) are refusing to help

Hauptmann Kauffman
January 28th, 2008, 03:29 PM
Oh well then, The actions made by the Canadian government make perfect sense.

thesphinx
January 28th, 2008, 03:53 PM
I agree with Kodie the rest of NATO needs to step up, it would be so much easier on nations that are doing a lot over there if we could get some help from our "allies"

goin to work
January 28th, 2008, 05:13 PM
bullshit the usa is doing all we can we need canaba to grow some ball and fight

or they will be lil fags lik france

no canada knos that they need to stay there to help the usa the best country in the world
and find osama

Serenity
January 28th, 2008, 05:14 PM
or they will be lil fags lik france

Watch what you say. Deragatory terms like that are NOT appreciated or accepted here.

goin to work
January 28th, 2008, 05:16 PM
im sry

Hauptmann Kauffman
January 28th, 2008, 05:18 PM
OMG, Canada is doing plenty. BTW, Canada doesnt havea fucking "B" in it! They are doing ALOT of work in Afghanistan, appreciate what they are doing! They are dying to help us! And France is one of the best countries in the world with great citizens and culture. Maybe you should get to know the country you are insulting, but of course you wont. Typical American attitude. The USA may be the best right now, but if things continue, the US will be usurped by China. You really need to shut up and think before posting.

goin to work
January 28th, 2008, 05:25 PM
ok no we are the brst and frince is a bunch of babies ok bush for ever

Hauptmann Kauffman
January 28th, 2008, 05:33 PM
First of all, bush will be gone in less than a year, so no, NO BUSH FOREVER. Second, France once controlled a very large portion of the world, they are not even close to babies. At least they have some maturity, unlike the US(Which you have obviously proved through your grammar, maturity, and knowledge of the world in your above posts)

thesphinx
January 29th, 2008, 12:42 AM
*sigh* its people like goin to work that give the USA a bad name, but seriously don't judge all of us just because of people like that please.

0=
January 29th, 2008, 12:56 AM
He is a good representation of most of the teens in my area, actually.

Hauptmann Kauffman
January 29th, 2008, 12:59 AM
How do you live O=?!?

0=
January 29th, 2008, 01:05 AM
I live in the San Diego area.

Hauptmann Kauffman
January 29th, 2008, 10:07 AM
wow, I thought that was a smarter area, lol

0=
January 29th, 2008, 07:27 PM
Pretty much everyone I know is a redneck or a hick.

goin to work
January 29th, 2008, 07:41 PM
u libril morons don't call me stupid plz and i speck my mind

0=
January 29th, 2008, 07:47 PM
You appear to be mashing your keyboard, actually.

Serenity
January 29th, 2008, 07:50 PM
Hey you guys...remember the actual article? Yeah. Let's please quit this argument and get back on topic.

serial-thrilla
January 29th, 2008, 10:19 PM
ok no we are the brst and frince is a bunch of babies ok bush for everhow old are you man? france is an awesome country. you sound like an 8 year old trying to use a computer. ps- sorry for dragging on the argument back to topic........ now!

Glasgow
January 29th, 2008, 10:36 PM
Why wait till next year, do it now for fuck sakes.

Whisper
January 29th, 2008, 10:52 PM
Why wait till next year, do it now for fuck sakes.
Because we are a country that holds to its word (Except Kyoto aperantly...) and we agreed to 2009