View Full Version : No global warming in the past 15 years
Human
September 28th, 2013, 11:06 AM
Over the past 15 years there have been no significant changes in the world's temperature, it has been revealed. Scientist's think that although global warming is an issue, it will be a much slower, more long term issue rather than in 100 years all the glaciers melt and we die.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2436113/IPCC-climate-change-report-Humans-causing-global-warming-STILL-explain-Earths-barely-got-hotter-15-years.html?ico=sciencetech^headlines
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/13212-global-climate-warming-stopped-15-years-ago-uk-met-office-admits
britishboy
September 28th, 2013, 12:18 PM
interesting! I knew Greenpeace was full of rubbish:D
ksdnfkfr
September 28th, 2013, 12:37 PM
I'm an optimist. I believe the nuclear winter caused by World War III will save the glaciers.
Reserved
September 28th, 2013, 03:53 PM
Even if all the glaciers go I don't think we will die. How many glaciers were around during the times of the dinosaurs?
StoppingTime
September 28th, 2013, 04:08 PM
Right except you need to look at all the data. Saying the earth hasn't significantly warmed in the last 15 years is only looking at those 15 years. You need to look at changes over time (http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SkepticFrame.jpg), so you can see where we were, and where it seems like we're headed. (http://www.globalwarmingart.com/images/f/f4/Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png)
Also…the Daily Mail isn't exactly a um…reputable source.
sqishy
September 28th, 2013, 06:48 PM
Well carbon dioxide levels are over 400 ppm and if we were to stop all out greenhouse emissions, the world would warm by 2 'C from pre-industrial levels. So it's not like things are all going fine.
Twilly F. Sniper
September 30th, 2013, 05:18 AM
Well carbon dioxide levels are over 400 ppm and if we were to stop all out greenhouse emissions, the world would warm by 2 'C from pre-industrial levels. So it's not like things are all going fine.
According to public (and falsified) reports, yes.
The truth is, our world would only warm around <1/2℃. Yes carbon dioxide levels are high, but why is that a concern? Oh yeah, it does trap some heat. But nothing that's actually in any way significant.
sqishy
September 30th, 2013, 12:38 PM
According to public (and falsified) reports, yes.
The truth is, our world would only warm around <1/2℃. Yes carbon dioxide levels are high, but why is that a concern? Oh yeah, it does trap some heat. But nothing that's actually in any way significant.
Significant? Indeed. TO prove that there's 400 ppm carbon dioxide in the air, all you need is someone to do a lab test on it.
And it's not just carbon dioxide. You have methane levels increasing, and methane traps heat 20 times better than carbon dioxide. The methane is coming from melting frozen soil in siberia, and the ocean.
This IS a concern.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AIRS_Methane.png
Twilly F. Sniper
September 30th, 2013, 04:01 PM
Significant? Indeed. TO prove that there's 400 ppm carbon dioxide in the air, all you need is someone to do a lab test on it.
And it's not just carbon dioxide. You have methane levels increasing, and methane traps heat 20 times better than carbon dioxide. The methane is coming from melting frozen soil in siberia, and the ocean.
This IS a concern.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AIRS_Methane.png
May I ask how 1.75 micromolars per meter is significant? I think you did your math wrong. That's only about 28.07 ppm, definitely not even close to lethal. (1.75 multiplied by the atomic mass of CH4, or 1.75 multiplied by 16.04)
sqishy
September 30th, 2013, 04:07 PM
1,745 nanomoles per mole. Nope it ain't lethal, even at 1%.
And where did I do any math?
The point I am backing is that these "minute" problems some see them to be, cause big problems in the future. The average world temperature has already risen by 0.6 degrees C since the industrial revolution. Arctic sea ice is almost half what it was. I'm not saying global warming, but the climate sure is changing, and we have quite a bit to do with it.
Zach1702
September 30th, 2013, 04:10 PM
we're probably starting to go through a cooling period, this is where we get an ice age, this probably happen in the next 200 yrs.
Camazotz
October 1st, 2013, 09:10 AM
Right except you need to look at all the data. Saying the earth hasn't significantly warmed in the last 15 years is only looking at those 15 years. You need to look at changes over time (http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SkepticFrame.jpg), so you can see where we were, and where it seems like we're headed. (http://www.globalwarmingart.com/images/f/f4/Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png)
Also…the Daily Mail isn't exactly a um…reputable source.
This ^. Environmental scientists have shown that global warming is occurring and will become a threat if nothing is done about it.
we're probably starting to go through a cooling period, this is where we get an ice age, this probably happen in the next 200 yrs.
I wouldn't count on it.
StoppingTime
October 1st, 2013, 02:47 PM
1,745 nanomoles per mole. Nope it ain't lethal, even at 1%.
And where did I do any math?
The point I am backing is that these "minute" problems some see them to be, cause big problems in the future. The average world temperature has already risen by 0.6 degrees C since the industrial revolution. Arctic sea ice is almost half what it was. I'm not saying global warming, but the climate sure is changing, and we have quite a bit to do with it.
Actually the arctic sea icecaps are increasing (http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v6/n5/full/ngeo1767.html), but the glacial mass is decreasing, which is where the real problem lies.
sqishy
October 1st, 2013, 03:58 PM
Actually the arctic sea icecaps are increasing (http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v6/n5/full/ngeo1767.html), but the glacial mass is decreasing, which is where the real problem lies.
Antarctic ice levels are increasing for some reason, yes. Arctic ice is decreasing by mass, not as much by area.
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