sexuality protests?

[britishboy]

what do you all think of the gays and lesbians holding massive protests? I think we will all agree they are horrible, an eye sore, makes the place uncomfortable for those not involved and a massive inconvenience but are they justified? are they worth it?

I think they do more harm than good, there's actually no good to be had now, only bad

[deadpie]

I think we will all agree they are horrible, an eye sore, makes the place uncomfortable for those not involved and a massive inconvenience

yes we can all agree thank you for speaking behalf of all vt... Ever thought if we all agree or even if you believe the majority agrees then there's absolutely no point in even posting the thread because we're all drones that think the same thoughts as you?

this is an eye sore

[britishboy]

yes we can all agree thank you for speaking behalf of all vt... Ever thought if we all agree or even if you believe the majority agrees then there's absolutely no point in even posting the thread because we're all drones that think the same thoughts as you?

this is an eye sore

read, I said I think we will all agree and then do you think they're worth it?

[Mynick]

To be honest, a lot of people still opress them, don't respect them and whatnot. So i get why they are doing it. That being said they don't need to shove there sexuality, i mean i don't go in the street with a shirt saying "Hey im straight" etc etc.
And yes for the sake of the thread, i'm generalizing.

[deadpie]

read, I said I think we will all agree and then do you think they're worth it?

What do you mean by worth it? Why do you speak of these pride parades as if people are going to die or get harmed from them? Are you the old guy saying "think of the children"? Do I have a problem with it? No. I'm gay and wouldn't go to one personally, because unlike these people I'm not proud of my sexuality at all. If it makes these people happy and doesn't harm anyone why should it be a problem?

[britishboy]

To be honest, a lot of people still opress them, don't respect them and whatnot. So i get why they are doing it. That being said they don't need to shove there sexuality, i mean i don't go in the street with a shirt saying "Hey im straight" etc etc.
And yes for the sake of the thread, i'm generalizing.
them protesting isn't helping that, it just annoys people, no one thinks, hey, the massive inconvenient ugly eye sore in the middle of London says I should respect gays, let me apologize to every gay I bullied do they?
What do you mean by worth it? Why do you speak of these pride parades as if people are going to die or get harmed from them? Are you the old guy saying "think of the children"? Do I have a problem with it? No. I'm gay and wouldn't go to one personally, because unlike these people I'm not proud of my sexuality at all. If it makes these people happy and doesn't harm anyone why should it be a problem?
I'm not saying that at all, it's inconvenient,.they're ugly and terrible for tourists so why do them? they change no ones opinion

[Harley Quinn]

It's funny how you say you support LGBT, but then make a thread like this. It's a bit of a contradiction, a horrible one at that. Congrats on your support though, we all appreciate it!

[Derryck]

You see, this is what religion does to you. -__-

[Elysium]

What else do you suggest they do to make change happen? Actions speak louder than words. Sometimes forcing people to see, hear, and experience the issue than just reading or hearing it spoken about is more effective. And, for that matter, why are you targeting protests regarding LGBTQ? Protests happen all over for tons of different reasons. What makes this one different?

[britishboy]

It's funny how you say you support LGBT, but then make a thread like this. It's a bit of a contradiction, a horrible one at that. Congrats on your support though, we all appreciate it!

I'm guessing thats aimed at me?

let's clear things up, I support LGBT rights but not to the extent I would protest or get directly involved (unless it's terrible)

I believe other methods will be more effective, they have good numbers of support, challenge the Ministry of Education to make schools come down harder on anti LGBT bullying, maybe make jokes on them only appear in 15+ films?

I believe the protests do more harm than good, and they're irritating if you want to go sight seeing (in London for example) and actually must make some, previously neutral men actually turn against them

You see, this is what religion does to you. -__-
what do you mean?

[Derryck]

I'm guessing thats aimed at me?

let's clear things up, I support LGBT rights but not to the extent I would protest or get directly involved (unless it's terrible)

I believe other methods will be more effective, they have good numbers of support, challenge the Ministry of Education to make schools come down harder on anti LGBT bullying, maybe make jokes on them only appear in 15+ films?

I believe the protests do more harm than good, and they're irritating if you want to go sight seeing (in London for example) and actually must make some, previously neutral men actually turn against them


what do you mean?
Are you a christian? one of the beliefs of hard-core Christians is that homosexuality is a "no".

[britishboy]

Are you a christian? one of the beliefs of hard-core Christians is that homosexuality is a "no".

haha not Christian at all!

[Harry Smith]

what do you all think of the gays and lesbians holding massive protests? I think we will all agree they are horrible, an eye sore, makes the place uncomfortable for those not involved and a massive inconvenience but are they justified? are they worth it?

I think they do more harm than good, there's actually no good to be had now, only bad

I think that everyone on this thread disagrees with you here, it's not an eye sore at all in fact I don't mind seeing 100 odd 20 year old guys walking down a street.


I'm guessing thats aimed at me?

let's clear things up, I support LGBT rights but not to the extent I would protest or get directly involved (unless it's terrible)

I believe other methods will be more effective, they have good numbers of support, challenge the Ministry of Education to make schools come down harder on anti LGBT bullying, maybe make jokes on them only appear in 15+ films?

I believe the protests do more harm than good, and they're irritating if you want to go sight seeing (in London for example) and actually must make some, previously neutral men actually turn against them


what do you mean?

Love how you say men because of course they're no women on the streets of london. People have a right to protest- look at clause 28 you had nearly every single LGBT on the streets campaigning against an unjust illegal law. I have the legal right to protest as much as a straight person- that's a fact

[britishboy]

Love how you say men because of course they're no women on the streets of london

in English when a group of people's gender is unknown 'men' is the term used

oh and everyone has a legal right to protest, I agree with the right, but is it the best thing for them to do? would their resources be better elsewhere?

[Mynick]

them protesting isn't helping that, it just annoys people, no one thinks, hey, the massive inconvenient ugly eye sore in the middle of London says I should respect gays, let me apologize to every gay I bullied do they?
It annoys some people, not all. If they do it 2 times per year or something like that i don't mind. You dont need to apologize to every person you bullied, you should tho. Anyways if you respect them you dont need to apologize to them, that's what i mean.

You see, this is what religion does to you. -__-
Care to explain?

[britishboy]

It annoys some people, not all. If they do it 2 times per year or something like that i don't mind. You dont need to apologize to every person you bullied, you should tho. Anyways if you respect them you dont need to apologize to them, that's what i mean.

I'll agree with that, from what I see, no few changes opinions because of them, they have good resources and they can be spent elsewhere doing alot of good

you shouldnt bully no one in the first place but you got my point

[Harry Smith]

in English when a group of people's gender is unknown 'men' is the term used

oh and everyone has a legal right to protest, I agree with the right, but is it the best thing for them to do? would their resources be better elsewhere?

Well you slightly biased in regards to that, it doesn't matter if its the best thing to do.

Look at section 28 which was in fact a homophobic law, you had both straight and gay people protesting about it, protesting that it's simply okay to be gay and it shouldn't matter at all.

I don't really care if it upsets you, you quite clearly don't understand what it means to have your sexuality oppressed for over 200 years. Gay pride is simply gay and straight people celebrating the fact that sexuality is just that. Gay pride isn't a protest it's people celebrating their sexuality

[Mynick]

I'll agree with that, from what I see, no few changes opinions because of them, they have good resources and they can be spent elsewhere doing alot of good

you shouldnt bully no one in the first place but you got my point
Yeah i got what you were saying. To be honest, i dont know much about it. Need to google a bit about the subject, but i'm too lazy So i'll let other people debate about this.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

You see, this is what religion does to you. -__-

Well, not really. The ideologies of the Old Testament mainly caused it. Ignorantly following it is how that happens. BTW they aren't much of an eye-sore at all, it sounds like some people are extremely butthurt.

[sqishy]

I see no problem with non-straight people protesting something not about LGBT+ issues with a justifiable reason. If it's LGBT+ based, then there's probably some justified motive behind it. But I hate people who go OTT, regardless.

[saea97]

Pride parades here are pretty laid-back. There are events, music, all sorts of entertainment built around it. People, straight and gay, spend the day enjoying themselves. Furthermore, I don't understand how it's an "eyesore", unless of course you find homosexuality visually repulsive. Parades happen all the time, why is it wrong when it's a gay pride one?

[Lovelife090994]

To be honest all protests cause inconvenience but I see no reason for LGBT ones, why are honoring a sexuality? Sexuality is to do with sex, why nt protest with something more appealing and less risque? To be fair I get that in many countries homosexuality and the like are all very frowned upon but when you think about it we all have a right to hold a different view and opinion.

Protest is fine to a degree but not when it becomes so... vague.

You see, this is what religion does to you. -__-

How rude.

Are you a christian? one of the beliefs of hard-core Christians is that homosexuality is a "no".

I'm Christian and nothing like that!


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[Tze-]

Because rainbows are such an ugly eyesore

[Sugaree]

what do you all think of the gays and lesbians holding massive protests? I think we will all agree they are horrible, an eye sore, makes the place uncomfortable for those not involved and a massive inconvenience but are they justified? are they worth it?

I think they do more harm than good, there's actually no good to be had now, only bad

You still haven't learned, have you BB? You make all these generalizations about what we apparently all agree on and it turns around to bite you in the ass. You're clearly at the disadvantage here, no one is going to agree with you.

Keep making threads like this while claiming your support for people like me, I, as a bisexual, really appreciate that you apparently support my right to protest the people that are oppressing MY rights, but I guess I should do it in a more "civilized" manner. :rolleyes:

[Luminous]

As a girl who is attracted in every way to other girls, I say this: While everyone should be proud of who you are, being gay does not make you special. If homosexuals hold pride parades than heterosexuals should too. Honestly, it's not a big deal. There doesn't need to be some big special coming out (I wrote my parents a letter, however I probably told them too early on in the process of discovering my sexuality, and couldn't get the strength to say it to their faces). If you are comfortable and happy in your sexuality you should be able to just casually mention that you like [name of person same gender] or say a body of someone the same gender is hot, or you got a boy/girlfriend. I don't see the point of pride parades, if you're being bullied or shot down yes that's bad and you should raise awareness, but these parades are too happy and they imply that gay/bi/trans/etc people are more special than straight people which of course is not true.

[teen.jpg]

Ugh, for christ's sake stop talking about our sexualities. All you do is piss people off.

But to stay on topic, they have their use. Until the day where a same-sex couple can live their lives just as fully as an opposite-sex couple, protests ARE needed.

As a girl who is attracted in every way to other girls, I say this: While everyone should be proud of who you are, being gay does not make you special. If homosexuals hold pride parades than heterosexuals should too. Honestly, it's not a big deal. There doesn't need to be some big special coming out (I wrote my parents a letter, however I probably told them too early on in the process of discovering my sexuality, and couldn't get the strength to say it to their faces). If you are comfortable and happy in your sexuality you should be able to just casually mention that you like [name of person same gender] or say a body of someone the same gender is hot, or you got a boy/girlfriend. I don't see the point of pride parades, if you're being bullied or shot down yes that's bad and you should raise awareness, but these parades are too happy and they imply that gay/bi/trans/etc people are more special than straight people which of course is not true.

Yeah, but all that is "perfect world" expectations. Truth is, most people have trouble accepting themselves. Most of us aren't even accepted by our own family. There is no "casually" saying it because most of the time that won't even work.

We can sit here and pretend that everything would work out if we try to make it seem like no big deal (which in actuality it isn't), but the real world doesn't work out that nicely.

Sad, really.

[Luminous]

We can sit here and pretend that everything would work out if we try to make it seem like no big deal (which in actuality it isn't), but the real world doesn't work out that nicely.


Story of my life, now you see where the opinions come from,

[Lovelife090994]

Yeah, but all that is "perfect world" expectations. Truth is, most people have trouble accepting themselves. Most of us aren't even accepted by our own family. There is no "casually" saying it because most of the time that won't even work.

We can sit here and pretend that everything would work out if we try to make it seem like no big deal (which in actuality it isn't), but the real world doesn't work out that nicely.

Sad, really.

That isn't ideal, it's her story and besides gay people can live full lives so protests are not different. Gay, straight, you and are both are human and the parades have some parade around like they are better and special and happier which is not the case. Protest for peace not propaganda.

[Vlerchan]

That isn't ideal, it's her story and besides gay people can live full lives so protests are not different. ... some parade around like they are better and special and happier which is not the case. Protest for peace not propaganda.

In Ireland homosexuals can't marry or adopt. Homosexuality was actually only legalised in the 1993. As far as I'm concerned they can't live a full life same as a heterosexual couple can, not in Ireland, anyway. Even in America with all its progress there is still 29 states that you can actually be fired in solely for being homosexual (http://pamshouseblend.firedoglake.com/2012/02/04/why-we-need-enda-you-can-still-be-fired-in-most-states-for-being-lgbt-ask-ellen/). (And, on a side note, a close enough figure to that for being Atheist.) Though being legally accepted doesn't mean they're socially accepted. Just look at the statistics (http://gaylife.about.com/od/hatecrimes/a/statistics.htm) for reported hate crimes against homosexuals in the US - Key Word: Reported. Does that look like acceptance to you?

See, the parades aren't trying to point out how 'special' they are, or at least as a bystander I've never thought of them in that way, but rather they're pointing out the reality: that regardless of how many individuals want to deny their existence (and their rights) they're still there. It's Pro-Acceptance as much as anything else. So, in short, I'm not one of the 'all' that agree with the OP.

[teen.jpg]

Protest for peace not propaganda.

That's. The. Point. Of. The. Parade.

[Get Outta Compton]

You are obviously homophobic. Shame on you for posting such derogatory comments on a minority still trying to fight for their basic human rights.