How Shady Is Obama?

[TheBigUnit]

just curious what you guys all think, we all got the impression that he was sent from heaven in 2008 but now i have a feeling that he might be the most corrupt presidents in US history....warren g harding...., i still prefer him over mccain im not sure about romney though, anyway obama does have 4 years left but he is increasingly is looking more and more bizarre especially with his syria mishap, one of his biggest strong suits over the past 4 years was his foreign affairs, was hillary clinton really that integral to it? because in all honesty john kerry is doing a pretty lousy job...anyway i feel like im rambling here...no pun intended....

what do you think of obama in general? take this debate anywhere you like...within ethical rules of this forum

[dsi411]

He's KK. He didn't change my life in any way, so I don't care.

[Elysium]

Obama's the real Slim Shady.

Bad jokes aside, I don't take much of a political standpoint, so I haven't been following any of Obama's actions too closely. I was following the Syrian dilemma and Obama's mishap hasn't made me think any less or differently of him. I thought he dealt with it reasonably well though, all considered... better than Putin getting an editorial in the NY Times. I'm just glad he supports gay marriage, really.

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I don't follow politics, so on a non-political level, I like him.

[conniption]

He's gotten quite a bit accomplished, fallen short on other things, but you can't expect much when we're usually forced to choose between the lesser of two evils with anything involving politics.

[Cygnus]

I believe he is a decent president and better than the other possible candidates really. Why do I believe he is a decent president? Because he acknowledges that the rest of the world exists and the US is not the center of the universe. The US is doomed anyways, but you can't blame Obama for that.

[conniption]

I believe he is a decent president and better than the other possible candidates really. Why do I believe he is a decent president? Because he acknowledges that the rest of the world exists and the US is not the center of the universe. The US is doomed anyways, but you can't blame Obama for that.

I freakin hate it when people try to pin the blame on one sole person, when the shit that is going wrong is actually the result of consecutive mistakes made by multiple politicians.

[Cygnus]

I freakin hate it when people try to pin the blame on one sole person, when the shit that is going wrong is actually the result of consecutive mistakes made by multiple politicians.

Saying that is also wrong in some cases because sometimes its not even fault of the politicians, sometimes its fault of the people.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

He does supposedly have no known birth certificate...
But other than that, He's been one of the best US presidents since a long time ago...

[EddietheZombie]

He is like all politicians(except a few), he just did most of the "good things" for votes. Any other politician would do the same thing, and we all do to. If you want something from your parents then you do something nice first. I think hes one of the most corrupt presidents. More shady deals have happened when he was in office then any other president. He doesnt recognize everyone, he just tricked you into voting for him. Find any "good" things hes ever done and it was for a minority vote. He signed a Battered Native American, Homosexual, Mexican, bill right before the second election. I dont think it was a coincidence. And dont even get me started on Benghazi or gun control... the point is, with all his shady deals and corruptness, why hasnt he been impeached? Obamacare makes you fill out a survey and if you do dangerous activities or jobs(Sports, 4-wheeling, construction, ect) then you get an extra tax. Is that fair? I dont think so.

[TheBigUnit]

Obama's the real Slim Shady.

Bad jokes aside, I don't take much of a political standpoint, so I haven't been following any of Obama's actions too closely. I was following the Syrian dilemma and Obama's mishap hasn't made me think any less or differently of him. I thought he dealt with it reasonably well though, all considered... better than Putin getting an editorial in the NY Times. I'm just glad he supports gay marriage, really.
Putin made obama and thus America look stupid in the syrian crisis, Obama did such a bad job with Syria he ruined America's image in the world scale... that being said he has 4 years left... back in 2011 after we got bin Laden many considered him as one of b the greatest presidents ever

He is like all politicians(except a few), he just did most of the "good things" for votes. Any other politician would do the same thing, and we all do to. If you want something from your parents then you do something nice first. I think hes one of the most corrupt presidents. More shady deals have happened when he was in office then any other president. He doesnt recognize everyone, he just tricked you into voting for him. Find any "good" things hes ever done and it was for a minority vote. He signed a Battered Native American, Homosexual, Mexican, bill right before the second election. I dont think it was a coincidence. And dont even get me started on Benghazi or gun control... the point is, with all his shady deals and corruptness, why hasnt he been impeached? Obamacare makes you fill out a survey and if you do dangerous activities or jobs(Sports, 4-wheeling, construction, ect) then you get an extra tax. Is that fair? I dont think so.
I agree with everything up until obamacare.... he mentioned his support for gay marriage right before his election.....if he really did care about gay marriage he would pressure states like Pennsylvania legalize gay marriage

[Camazotz]

I don't follow politics, so on a non-political level, I like him.

Samezies! :P

He does supposedly have no known birth certificate...

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I think hes one of the most corrupt presidents. More shady deals have happened when he was in office then any other president. He doesnt recognize everyone, he just tricked you into voting for him... the point is, with all his shady deals and corruptness, why hasnt he been impeached?

Source?

Obamacare makes you fill out a survey and if you do dangerous activities or jobs(Sports, 4-wheeling, construction, ect) then you get an extra tax. Is that fair?

Yes.

... that being said he has 4 years left

Since the election was about a year ago, I think it would be more accurate to say 3 years.

back in 2011 after we got bin Laden many considered him as one of b the greatest presidents ever

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if he really did care about gay marriage he would pressure states like Pennsylvania legalize gay marriage

He has other things to worry about right now. It's up to the state government to pass legislation for their own state.

[TheBigUnit]

He has other things to worry about right now. It's up to the state government to pass legislation for their own state.

thats more of an opinion for bin laden on both sides

but about gay marriage he said many things included that he will make sure that it will be legalized everywhere, whats your personal view on him, i really dont hate obama per-say i am democrat its just that his Syrian stance is tarnishing him

[thatcountrykid]

I'll be honest and say that i hate obama in every thing he's done ecept for getting obama but evwn then all he did was say yes. I imagine i'll get a bunch if crap for this but i say bring back g.w. bush or clinton.

Kidding here but i would loce ted nugent and john wayne in there

[conniption]

I'll be honest and say that i hate obama in every thing he's done ecept for getting obama but evwn then all he did was say yes. I imagine i'll get a bunch if crap for this but i say bring back g.w. bush or clinton.

Kidding here but i would loce ted nugent and john wayne in there

I'm sorry, but I understood absolutely nothing you just said.

[LouBerry]

He's just the president. He can do very little without Congress. Obama is just a man, and the only thing he can really do is fuck up this situation with Syria, however, our current Congress is the least effective Congress that America has ever had. THAT is what we should be talking about.

[thatcountrykid]

I'm sorry, but I understood absolutely nothing you just said.

I'll honestly say i hate Obama and would rathe have George w bush or clinto back.

He's just the president. He can do very little without Congress. Obama is just a man, and the only thing he can really do is fuck up this situation with Syria, however, our current Congress is the least effective Congress that America has ever had. THAT is what we should be talking about.

You are correct but with a corrupted congress as well then we are screwed

[Jess]

I don't really hate him...I prefer him to some of the other candidates and if I could have, would have voted for him in last year's election.

[Walter Powers]

Obama is one of the most corrupt men to ever set foot in the Oval Office. You look at what happened with the Patriot Day attack on our Embassy in Benghazi, with the IRS scandal, the AP Fox News scandal, his illegal nominations, his refusal to enforce the laws, the Fast and Furious scandal...

I could go on and on. This guy is on par with Nixon. But he'd never be impeached because of the culture. The mainstream media virtually ignores all these stories. Obama could shoot Lady Gaga's head off on live TV during the Grammys and he'd still be in office.

[Southside]

I don't like all of his policies, more specifically his foreign policy and giving billions to the genocidal Zionist state of Israel but I rather have Obama over warmonger Mccain or Romney.

I think hes doing a OK job with the economy considering the bullshit that was handed to him when he got in office. I don't know why these tea party people and conservatives think that a 17 trillion dollars of debt can be magically wished away in a few years.

[EddietheZombie]

Source?
Do i really have to post any? Look around at everything, connect the dots, and see that everything hes done is for votes or corruption.
Yes.
You serious? Really? Why should they know what your activities are? And what about the construction workers that have to feed a family, but cant because of the extra tax.
Samezies!
So how can you have a good opinion on him if you dont see his actions? Thats trying to talk about something you dont even know about. So please before you reply, look at the facts first.
Kidding here but i would loce ted nugent and john wayne in there
Ted Nugents awesome! Jesse Ventura would be good too.
He's just the president. He can do very little without Congress. Obama is just a man, and the only thing he can really do is fuck up this situation with Syria, however, our current Congress is the least effective Congress that America has ever had. THAT is what we should be talking about.
He has already done a few Executive Orders, which bypass congress. He will probably try it again. I agree on the Congress part though.
Obama is one of the most corrupt men to ever set foot in the Oval Office. You look at what happened with the Patriot Day attack on our Embassy in Benghazi, with the IRS scandal, the AP Fox News scandal, his illegal nominations, his refusal to enforce the laws, the Fast and Furious scandal...

I could go on and on. This guy is on par with Nixon. But he'd never be impeached because of the culture. The mainstream media virtually ignores all these stories. Obama could shoot Lady Gaga's head off on live TV during the Grammys and he'd still be in office.
Finally some one that gets it. Thank You.
I don't like all of his policies, more specifically his foreign policy and giving billions to the genocidal Zionist state of Israel but I rather have Obama over warmonger Mccain or Romney.

I think hes doing a OK job with the economy considering the bullshit that was handed to him when he got in office. I don't know why these tea party people and conservatives think that a 17 trillion dollars of debt can be magically wished away in a few years.
Its really not that hard to get rid of that debt. It would take a few years but its easy. And remember when he "promised" to have the debt cut done by his first term? Apparently a politicians promises dont count...
1# Stop giving Egypt, Iran, and other countries money and weapons.
2# Stop giving "Diplomats" $100,000+ to them for coming over here.
3# Pull our troops, and stop being "Big Brother" to everyone.
4# Stop relying on foreign oil and start using solar power, like Germany does.
5# Cut your own and congresses pay down to only roughly $20 dollars an hour.
6# Legalize marijuana and tax it since it is proven to do less damage than tobacco and beer (optional)
I could go on and on about ideas to cut down the debt. All this i estimate should take care of the debt in about 5 to 10 years. At the most 20 for the switch to solar.

[Camazotz]

Do i really have to post any? Look around at everything, connect the dots, and see that everything hes done is for votes or corruption.

Yes. Source?

You serious? Really? Why should they know what your activities are? And what about the construction workers that have to feed a family, but cant because of the extra tax.

Yes. That's how life insurance works. If you're at higher risk of getting injured or dying, the more likely it is for something severe to happen, and the more likely it is for that to happen, the more you should pay because your chances of receiving good coverage is higher. There's a lot of advanced mathematics and statistics that go into it.

So how can you have a good opinion on him if you dont see his actions? Thats trying to talk about something you dont even know about. So please before you reply, look at the facts first.

I don't follow politics, but the stuff he does outside of "presidential duties" are usually humanitarian. He has a lovely wife, wonderful children, and lives a good life. As a person, I respect him. That's what I'm talking about.

[TheBigUnit]

Jesse Ventura would be good too.

1# Stop giving Iran, money and weapons.

4# Stop relying on foreign oil and start using solar power, like Germany does.

I could go on and on about ideas to cut down the debt. All this i estimate should take care of the debt in about 5 to 10 years. At the most 20 for the switch to solar.

Jesse Ventura???? really? Jesse Ventura i admit is a pretty cool guy but i think he might make a terrible president, he totally ditched the robert rules, he looks clueless half the time, hes basically joe biden with long hair!!!

When did we give iran money and weapons in the past 20 years?

We personally dont actually rely on foreign oil, oil companies do, in fact the usa is relying less and less on foreign oil

Solar power at this time and day could easily become more efficient, its saying a lot and is quite an investment to rely heavily on solar power

Oh really? wheres your MBA degree? did u even take a basic economics class? you simply cant cut here and move stuff there

[Celtic.]

I'll be honest and say that i hate obama in every thing he's done ecept for getting obama but evwn then all he did was say yes. I imagine i'll get a bunch if crap for this but i say bring back g.w. bush or clinton.

Kidding here but i would loce ted nugent and john wayne in there

ted nugent is a fucking idiot.

[thatcountrykid]

ted nugent is a fucking idiot.

And why is that?

[Celtic.]

And why is that?

his view points on guns was just retarted. If all American's had the same view-point as he does on guns we'd all be dead. He reminds me of one of those racist country bumpkin guys in the Deep DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP south. Don't tell me he isn't racist because he says shit like this:

Nugent called Trayvon Martin a "17-year-old, dope smoking, racist, gangsta wannabe." He said "Trayvon had no reason not to attack, because it was the standard, thug thing to do.

[TheBigUnit]

And why is that?

did he even go to college??

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Can we just let this guy be president???

[Celtic.]

did he even go to college??

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Can we just let this guy be president???
Obama is one of the most educated presidents in history. Shit he went to harverd

can we let idiots like ted nugent and Mitt Romney be president?

[TheBigUnit]

Obama is one of the most educated presidents in history. Shit he went to harverd

can we let idiots like ted nugent and Mitt Romney be president?

mitt romney wouldnt be that bad, teg nugent didnt even go to college!!!

[thatcountrykid]

his view points on guns was just retarted. If all American's had the same view-point as he does on guns we'd all be dead. He reminds me of one of those racist country bumpkin guys in the Deep DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP south. Don't tell me he isn't racist because he says shit like this:

Nugent called Trayvon Martin a "17-year-old, dope smoking, racist, gangsta wannabe." He said "Trayvon had no reason not to attack, because it was the standard, thug thing to do.

Obama is one of the most educated presidents in history. Shit he went to harverd

can we let idiots like ted nugent and Mitt Romney be president?

That isnt racist. He never said it was because martin was black. What is wrong with his gun opinios. He believes in the constitution and the bill of rights. What is wrong with that.

did he even go to college??

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Can we just let this guy be president???

Who is that guy?

[Emerald Dream]

Let's please keep this on topic.

This is about Obama. Not Ted Nugent, Mitt Romney, or any other political stooge you want to throw in here.

[TheBigUnit]

That isnt racist. He never said it was because martin was black. What is wrong with his gun opinios. He believes in the constitution and the bill of rights. What is wrong with that.



Who is that guy?

Wayne la pierre, ted nugents boss

[Celtic.]

mitt romney wouldnt be that bad, teg nugent didnt even go to college!!!

Romney would be terrible compared to Obama. What I hate is people pointing out things that Obama has done that they hate but other presidents have done the same and nobody cared
Edit: Srry dream!

[TheBigUnit]

Romney would be terrible compared to Obama. What I hate is people pointing out things that Obama has done that they hate but other presidents have done the same and nobody cared
Edit: Srry dream!

How different would Romney have been honestly,

[Celtic.]

this is what the white house would look like if Romney was in office
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[TheBigUnit]

Seriously romney and obama were alike towards many issues, john mccain though....thats a different story,

[Celtic.]

McCain wasent stupid (if he was then sara palin outshined him by 1000)
his leadership ideas were balls and really catered to republicans.
Obama and Romney

[Walter Powers]

mitt romney wouldnt be that bad, teg nugent didnt even go to college!!!

Just have to say this: Mitt Romney went to Harvard, too. And, unlike Obama, he isn't afraid to show us his grades. He also has created hundreds of thousands of jobs, if not millions and all in all was one of the most qualified presidential candidates and yet he lost to one of the least qualified most corrupt presidents in history.


this is what the white house would look like if Romney was in office
image (http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/url-51.gif)

Hey, that animation looks a lot like our Embassy in Benghazi when it was attacked by terrorists last Patriot Day and Obama and Clinton refused to do anything about it because it would hurt Obama's reelection chances.

[Celtic.]

that animation also looks like what Obama was handed after bush left

[Stronk Serb]

Everyone hates on Obama, but it's mostly the Congress's fault. You cannot pin everything on one man, these are not the Middle Ages when everything depended on the ruler, this is a republic. After he succeeded Bush, it was a train wreck, and it still is.

[Celtic.]

Just have to say this: Mitt Romney went to Harvard, too. And, unlike Obama, he isn't afraid to show us his grades. He also has created hundreds of thousands of jobs, if not millions and all in all was one of the most qualified presidential candidates and yet he lost to one of the least qualified most corrupt presidents in history.




Hey, that animation looks a lot like our Embassy in Benghazi when it was attacked by terrorists last Patriot Day and Obama and Clinton refused to do anything about it because it would hurt Obama's reelection chances.
also why should Obama show his grades or birth certificate? because hes unlike every other president? and YOU WANNA TALK CORRUPT? LOOK AT BUSH JUNIOR AND BUSH SENIOR

[Hyper]

Just have to say this: Mitt Romney went to Harvard, too. And, unlike Obama, he isn't afraid to show us his grades. He also has created hundreds of thousands of jobs, if not millions and all in all was one of the most qualified presidential candidates and yet he lost to one of the least qualified most corrupt presidents in history.


Except going to Harvard didn't seem to help Romney from not saying all those horribly stupid and inconsiderate things he did during the election that basically self destructed his campaign.

Also overall the birth certificate crowd are probably brain damaged.

[Walter Powers]

Everyone hates on Obama, but it's mostly the Congress's fault. You cannot pin everything on one man, these are not the Middle Ages when everything depended on the ruler, this is a republic. After he succeeded Bush, it was a train wreck, and it still is.

Yes, Pelosi and Reid and the congresspeople they led share a lot of the responsibility too.

also why should Obama show his grades or birth certificate? because hes unlike every other president? and YOU WANNA TALK CORRUPT? LOOK AT BUSH JUNIOR AND BUSH SENIOR

You really wanna debate this? The Bushes never left people to die for political gain. They also never used the nations tax agency to oppress their political opponents.

Obama should show his Birth Certificate, and he has, just like every other presidential candidate as it proves you are qualified to run for office. As for his grades, he totally has a right not to release them I just think it looks suspicious. Especially considering he was president of the Harvard Law Review and never wrote a single law review.

Except going to Harvard didn't seem to help Romney from not saying all those horribly stupid and inconsiderate things he did during the election that basically self destructed his campaign.

Also overall the birth certificate crowd are probably brain damaged.

What horribly stupid and inconsiderate things?

Oh, you mean like this:

"if you've got a business, you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen."

Or how about this:

"The private sector is doing fine."

Oh, wait, that was OBAMA who said those stupid and inconsiderate things.

I agreed with the birth certificate crowd until one was released. You should have to prove your eligibility before running for President.

[EddietheZombie]

Yes. Source?
I guess i have to do everyone's research for them...
http://dcclothesline.com/2013/02/28/obamas-terror-tactics-deepen-as-he-frees-thousands-of-illegal-prisoners-back-onto-americas-streets-how-much-more-treason-do-we-tolerate-before-impeaching-this-domestic-terrorist/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/14/obama-admin-admits-releasing-thousands-of-illegal-immigrants-including-drunken-drivers/

Ive got a lot more but my computer is acting funny.
Yes. That's how life insurance works. If you're at higher risk of getting injured or dying, the more likely it is for something severe to happen, and the more likely it is for that to happen, the more you should pay because your chances of receiving good coverage is higher. There's a lot of advanced mathematics and statistics that go into it.

Really? If Obama Care passes then that could equal about a %50+ tax on your paycheck. Try living with a family with a $500 dollar check when you have bills and need food. Why should they look into our personal lives and force us to get insurance?
I don't follow politics, but the stuff he does outside of "presidential duties" are usually humanitarian. He has a lovely wife, wonderful children, and lives a good life. As a person, I respect him. That's what I'm talking about.

Ok, so you mean that because he gives "rights" to people then that makes him good? He did that for votes! What good has he done? Hes spied on our ally China and that betrays trust! You have to see the whole picture before you can make a fair assessment.
Jesse Ventura???? really? Jesse Ventura i admit is a pretty cool guy but i think he might make a terrible president, he totally ditched the robert rules, he looks clueless half the time, hes basically joe biden with long hair!!!

When did we give iran money and weapons in the past 20 years?

We personally dont actually rely on foreign oil, oil companies do, in fact the usa is relying less and less on foreign oil

Solar power at this time and day could easily become more efficient, its saying a lot and is quite an investment to rely heavily on solar power

Oh really? wheres your MBA degree? did u even take a basic economics class? you simply cant cut here and move stuff there
Jesse Ventura opened alot of peoples eyes. Obama and Romney both promised more jobs. A president can't make jobs and do you know why? The only job a president can make is a government job which is funded by taxes... Its basically defeating the purpose. And we gave Egypt Fighter Planes and money, Iran we just gave money and guns. Im not to familiar with the middle east so i may be wrong but i know that the part about Egypt is true. And no, but oil is a big part of the economy and we do get a lot of it from over seas. Germany is switching to solar instead on nuclear power, why cant we do the same? And i dont need a degree to see whats wrong with this country. Its is obvious to me, why not to others? Obama has issued executive orders on almost everything he wants passed. Is he following the so-called "rules"?
his view points on guns was just retarted. If all American's had the same view-point as he does on guns we'd all be dead. He reminds me of one of those racist country bumpkin guys in the Deep DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP south. Don't tell me he isn't racist because he says shit like this:

Nugent called Trayvon Martin a "17-year-old, dope smoking, racist, gangsta wannabe." He said "Trayvon had no reason not to attack, because it was the standard, thug thing to do.
Well what was he then? All those are facts. He was kicked out of school for pot, he was a racist(He said to his girlfriend on the phone that a "Crazy cracker was following him"), and attacking someone for even looking at you is the standard thug thing to do. Ted hit the nail on the head. So who's the racist now again? And hes right about gun control, it only applies to LAW abiding citizens, not criminals. Does a criminal follow laws? Hell no! Would a criminal enter a neighborhood where people have guns and could defend themselves? No! Would a criminal enter an unarmed neighborhood where he could do what he wanted? Yes!
mitt romney wouldnt be that bad, teg nugent didnt even go to college!!!
Neither did most presidents especially from the 1900s on back. It doesnt take a college degree it takes courage, brains, and good morals that make a good president. Which Obama is lacking severely.
Just have to say this: Mitt Romney went to Harvard, too. And, unlike Obama, he isn't afraid to show us his grades. He also has created hundreds of thousands of jobs, if not millions and all in all was one of the most qualified presidential candidates and yet he lost to one of the least qualified most corrupt presidents in history.

Hey, that animation looks a lot like our Embassy in Benghazi when it was attacked by terrorists last Patriot Day and Obama and Clinton refused to do anything about it because it would hurt Obama's reelection chances.
Exactly why Obama should be impeached. Mitt was ok, lesser of two evils.
also why should Obama show his grades or birth certificate? because hes unlike every other president? and YOU WANNA TALK CORRUPT? LOOK AT BUSH JUNIOR AND BUSH SENIOR
Like Walter said. And the Bushes didnt take vacations every month, didnt arm other countries, didnt apologies to enemies of the USA, didnt let Detroit get bankrupt, and didnt take meds from veterans if they have unpaid tickets. At least we have cheap gas.... Oh wait, gas prices started rising in 2009 remember?

And Sorry for getting some what off topic. I was just defending people that arnt here to defend themselves.

[Hyper]

What horribly stupid and inconsiderate things?

Oh, you mean like this:

"if you've got a business, you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen."

Or how about this:

"The private sector is doing fine."

Oh, wait, that was OBAMA who said those stupid and inconsiderate things.

I agreed with the birth certificate crowd until one was released. You should have to prove your eligibility before running for President.

The 47 percent quote...

Or stuff like these:

"I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."

"I'm not concerned about the very poor. We have a safety net there."

"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs." —Mitt Romney, during the second presidential debate
"Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs." —Mitt Romney, 45 minutes later (Oct. 16, 2012)

"My dad, as you probably know, was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company. But he was born in Mexico... and had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this. But he was unfortunately born to Americans living in Mexico. He lived there for a number of years. I mean, I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be Latino."

"Actually, I didn't say that." –Mitt Romney, when asked about his oft-cited quote that 47 percent of Americans can't be persuaded to take personal responsibility, Washington Post interview, July 28, 2013

"Syria is Iran's only ally in the Arab world. It's their route to the sea."

"Is $100,000 middle income?" -George Stephanopoulos
"No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less." -Mitt Romney, ABC's "Good Morning America," Sept. 14, 2012

"I'll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry's come back." –Mitt Romney, on the American auto industry, despite having written a New York Times op-ed in 2008 titled "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt," in which he said if GM, Ford and Chrysler got a government bailout "you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye"

"I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." —Mitt Romney, speaking in 2011 to unemployed people in Florida. Romney's net worth is over $200 million.

"I get speaker's fees from time to time, but not very much." —Mitt Romney, who earned $374,000 in speaking fees in one year according to according to his personal financial disclosure (January 2012)

"I'm not familiar precisely with what I said, but I'll stand by what I said, whatever it was." —Mitt Romney (May 17, 2012)


I'm sure there are more out there... The press releases he made during the Libyan embassy attack were great too. As I recall he made his first press release blasting Obamas response to the attack before Obama had even made a press release lol.

And seriously with this birth certificate crap do you people actually believe someone can just run for president without having to provide a birth certificate to the authorities before running??????? Or is one man so all mighty that he can just do whatever he wants to destroy 'murica hurr hurr

[Stronk Serb]

Yes, Pelosi and Reid and the congresspeople they led share a lot of the responsibility too.



You really wanna debate this? The Bushes never left people to die for political gain. They also never used the nations tax agency to oppress their political opponents.

Obama should show his Birth Certificate, and he has, just like every other presidential candidate as it proves you are qualified to run for office. As for his grades, he totally has a right not to release them I just think it looks suspicious. Especially considering he was president of the Harvard Law Review and never wrote a single law review.



What horribly stupid and inconsiderate things?

Oh, you mean like this:

"if you've got a business, you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen."

Or how about this:

"The private sector is doing fine."

Oh, wait, that was OBAMA who said those stupid and inconsiderate things.

I agreed with the birth certificate crowd until one was released. You should have to prove your eligibility before running for President.

Then why are you just hating on him in your posts? If Bush and his administration was doing their job, there would be no problems. The republicans said far more stupid things.

[Celtic.]

so much Obama hate on these forums