My Personal Pet Peeve of sexuality flaunters

[James Bond]

I have a huge pet peeve of people who flaunt their sexuality, or wear their sexuality like its a badge of honor. I consider myself bi, but I promise you that you'd never see me at one of those Pride parades or me wearing a rainbow shirt that says I'm bi.

People shouldn't know your sexuality unless you're with your spouse or partner. I'm a private person, if I had a girlfriend, the only public affection I'd show her is a hug, hold hands, or a peck on the cheek or lips. That's it. I find it disrespectful if you're at the park where there's people around and you're making out with your significant other, it's rude and inconsiderate.

People who wear their sexuality are just trying to shove their sexuality down people's throats, LGBTers who do that are just as bad as people who shove their religion down people's throats.

I have a distant cousin, he's gay. No one in my family knows if he's gay or not, but everyone assumes he is (I know personally cause he told my dad). That's how it should be. He shouldn't have rainbows painted all over his house, or he shouldn't have a shirt saying "I'm Queer and I'm Here" (or any variation of that). He should just continue his life like any other person. If he has a husband, he doesn't have to shove it down people's throats, but its not like his husband should be kept a secret.


My overall opinion, is don't shove your sexuality down my, or anyone else's throat. Don't involve your sexuality with everything, because there's no real reason why your sexuality should be brought up in daily conversation. I find it equally annoying as Christians who have to "Share the love of Jesus" to anyone and everyone, I hate when people always talk about their religion. The same applies to those Pride parades.

The poll is "Do you agree with me?" Do you agree with my little pet peeve and rant?

[conniption]

I think Pride festivals are mostly to raise awareness that bisexuals/homosexuals deserve equal rights and all that jazz. Anyway, I totally agree. I hate it when people think it's necessary to inform everyone they're gay.

[ksdnfkfr]

I'll say I personally steer away from it and I'd rather not be included in it much if at all. I'm not against someone indicating they're gay here in their av or sig for instance. I guess it's ok with me on how people want to express themselves, but I get where you're coming from. So I guess that puts me somewhere in the middle.

[Syvelocin]

Kind of agree. I'm not sickeningly hanging all over my girlfriend in public because I hate when anyone does that with anyone. Quick pecks and hand-holding is the only public behaviour for me. And if someone asks about my significant other, I'm not going to lie. I don't mind telling people who really matter to me, and online I'm an open book. Also the pride thing, I go because it's so refreshing when you're surrounded by straightness 24/7 and because my GSA needs help with their table. Plus, all the drag queens! I love them!

But no, I have no shirts, no rainbows. Except my tie dye, but am I not supposed to wear tie dye then? :/ My parents wear pride bracelets to support me but that's completely their decision.

[britishboy]

yep I agree them festivals to more bad than good! both straight and gay festivals

[ksdnfkfr]

yep I agree them festivals to more bad than good! both straight and gay festivals

Yeah, I really think that need to be toned down some. It really shouldn't be that big of a deal. It's like all those "should I come out?" threads. People shouldn't feel like they should come out or stay in. I just don't get why such a big deal has to be made of it one way or another.

[Sugaree]

yep I agree them festivals to more bad than good! both straight and gay festivals

Please point me to the nearest straight pride festival. Because you're quite clearly bullshitting on that point.

[James Bond]

Yeah, I really think that need to be toned down some. It really shouldn't be that big of a deal. It's like all those "should I come out?" threads. People shouldn't feel like they should come out or stay in. I just don't get why such a big deal has to be made of it one way or another.

I'm bi. I'll never come out (considering my family is religious), but I'm just private in general. Even if I did have a girlfriend, I'd probably keep her a secret from my parents, they don't need to know who I date. If I had a girlfriend, I wouldn't show much PDA other than holding hands, hugging, and a quick peck on cheek or lips. The peck on cheek or lips wouldn't happen all the time, just once in a while. But I know I'd have trouble showing love.

[ksdnfkfr]

I'm bi. I'll never come out (considering my family is religious), but I'm just private in general. Even if I did have a girlfriend, I'd probably keep her a secret from my parents, they don't need to know who I date. If I had a girlfriend, I wouldn't show much PDA other than holding hands, hugging, and a quick peck on cheek or lips. The peck on cheek or lips wouldn't happen all the time, just once in a while. But I know I'd have trouble showing love.

Yeah, I'm the same way. Even if I knew it would be 100% ok with everyone about me and my bestie, I'd rather keep it something special between us instead of letting everyone in on it. And I think those displays couples make in and around school is kinda trashy.

[Poisonberry]

Surprised this thread hasn't been attacked by those in the LGBT crowd that defend pride parades as a necessary tool for change.

Personally, I'm confused by those that think they need to "come out". Why? What's the point? I'm not saying not to live your life honestly, I just don't see what the big deal is making an announcement to the world and I'm guessing following up with quarterly reports on the state of your sexual preference. Otherwise, what if you slip back into the closet? :)

When people ask me (note: ask me, not me tell them), I say I'm hetroflexible. For those that don't understand, I'm really pretty straight, but a good romp with a girl isn't something I would avoid provided she appealed to me. I've never felt the need to plaster anything with rainbows and when certain opportunities arise I take them on a case by case basis. So yeah, what's the big deal?

[James Bond]

Surprised this thread hasn't been attacked by those in the LGBT crowd that defend pride parades as a necessary tool for change.

Personally, I'm confused by those that think they need to "come out". Why? What's the point? I'm not saying not to live your life honestly, I just don't see what the big deal is making an announcement to the world and I'm guessing following up with quarterly reports on the state of your sexual preference. Otherwise, what if you slip back into the closet? :)

When people ask me (note: ask me, not me tell them), I say I'm hetroflexible. For those that don't understand, I'm really pretty straight, but a good romp with a girl isn't something I would avoid provided she appealed to me. I've never felt the need to plaster anything with rainbows and when certain opportunities arise I take them on a case by case basis. So yeah, what's the big deal?

Just wait, it's not even 12 hours old yet. But I do believe that a considerable amount of people will agree with me to an extent.


I'm someone who believes sexuality isnt permanent, like its not set in stone. I believe if we tried hard enough, we can change anything about ourselves mentally. If we have anxiety or depression, we can fix that, if we have anger issues, we can fix that, so why if we can change and fix all that can't we fix our sexuality? That whole logic makes no sense to me. I believe our brains are especially moldable while we're young, and as we grow older it becomes harder and harder, but not impossible. Yet I assure you that you will see many people quote me on this and ignorantly denounce everything I said, because they believe that sexuality is set in stone from the moment you're born into this life. If homosexuality is a gene, then it's going to act like other genes, including the warrior gene.


I'm sure if I gave 100% effort, I could change from being bi to being straight, it will just take time and outside support (something I don't have because no one knows I'm bi). I'm not really willing to change though, too much work and I much prefer gay porn then straight, let alone lesbian.


One thing I will say, is I believe sexuality is a combo of nature vs nurture. Some people may be more prone to have homosexual tendencies than others, but its up to our environment on whether or not we unlock those tendencies. It's much like different genes in our body, such as the newly discovered "Warrior Gene". The gene is commonly found in serial killers, but there are many ordinary people who have it yet aren't violent what so ever, they say they aren't violent because of how they were raised. But they are still prone to it.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

Yes and no. Yes to the extent of your life being about it.
No to most other extents.
Just let us be proud of who we are. The point of gay pride festivals is to have a festive event dedicated to the LGBT (mind that only in 1/5 of the US gay marriages are legal and a lot of states (ones where homosexuality is "banned" by their constitution), actually want to repeal the 2004 law allowing two of the same sex to have intercourse. But of course they can't because that's national law. Heterosexual intercourse or marriage has never been illegal, that's why there aren't straight pride festivals.)
But I do agree however some of us are a little too proud. Ones that wear shirts all the time with their sexuality on there. But I personally think those are the only ones.

[Luminous]

Oh my gosh I so agree. Everyone deserves to be proud of who they are but that's no excuse to shove anything down anyone's throat. I'm lesbian but irl I'm kind of a "Don't ask, don't tell" basis. If someone asked me who I liked or what my sexuality is I'd tell the truth (assuming I know they aren't gonna make my life hell). But I don't go around telling everyone I know.

[Human]

This topic can be sensitive sometimes, but I kind of agree. I don't know why people want to make labels for themselves, but this applies for everything.

[teen.jpg]

1. So you can't be proud of your sexuality? I mean sure if you go around painted as a rainbow and screaming "Gay is Okay" then that's too far but if someone wants to do it at Pride, let them.

2. Why should somebody hide their sexuality though? If they want to be open about it, let them. Sure, there's obviously limits and exceptions, but if that's how the person chooses to act, so be it.

3. I agree with coming out being stupid, but in real life I think we can see exactly why some people have to.

So basically yeah I agree with you, but don't stop people from being themselves .....

[deadpie]

I honestly don't give a shit. Whatever makes people happy with what they are. That's literally all I have to say on this thread. This thread gives me a headache.

[teen.jpg]

I honestly don't give a shit. Whatever makes people happy with what they are. That's literally all I have to say on this thread. This thread gives me a headache.

Preach

[sqishy]

Anybody of any minority can be over-proud of their identity, no matter what minority it is. So it doesn't matter to me. Even the people I am related to in the rainbow flag are going to be my enemies if they start parading it for no justified reason.
It's a reason why I'm not comfortable with coming out in style. I'd like it to happen where someone asks me or references LGBT stuff. Only then do I do it. Otherwise I'm at the least sounding like an attention-seeker.

But sometimes pushing the boat our helps people to liberate themselves. I think that there should be no problem with telling people your sexuality. Once there's a justified reason (there almost always is) and there's no harm caused , being open about your sexuality is fine.

[James Bond]

1. So you can't be proud of your sexuality? I mean sure if you go around painted as a rainbow and screaming "Gay is Okay" then that's too far but if someone wants to do it at Pride, let them.

2. Why should somebody hide their sexuality though? If they want to be open about it, let them. Sure, there's obviously limits and exceptions, but if that's how the person chooses to act, so be it.

3. I agree with coming out being stupid, but in real life I think we can see exactly why some people have to.

So basically yeah I agree with you, but don't stop people from being themselves .....

People go to far. That whole thing of it being hidden is my personal view point, I hate when both straight and gay couples are making out in plain view. I'm not someone who likes PDA, at school, I see straight couples making out all the time, and its kinda sickening and rude. This isn't a double standard. Their sexuality shouldn't be hidden, but there's no reason to always mention that you're gay. If you have a story about your partner, you should say its about your significant other. But there's a point where it crosses a line, and it just gets annoying. It's like how others treat religion, saying you're a Christian is fine, mentioning it briefly every once in a while is fine, but don't mention it a lot cause I don't wanna hear it.

[Jess]

I agree. Seems like a lot in the media there're news of "this celebrity comes out (gay/lesbian)!" or something like that. Okay, great, but honestly why is it a big deal? I'm all for LGBT rights but it shouldn't be shoved onto people...

[teen.jpg]

I agree. Seems like a lot in the media there're news of "this celebrity comes out (gay/lesbian)!" or something like that. Okay, great, but honestly why is it a big deal? I'm all for LGBT rights but it shouldn't be shoved onto people...

But honestly, anyone who watches tv is aware of how much straight couples are "shoved in our faces" in the same way 100x more, and no one bats an eyelash.

[Horizon]

It's pretty funny how you all try to have opinions on a situation that you don't understand.
See we have pride day, and we have big stories of celebrities coming out gay, because people try to say "being gay is wrong" or "it's a sin" or even better "it's a choice"

You need to understand that we are trying to show those assholes that we are PROUD of who we are, and we aren't scared to show it.

In my town, I can walk out of my house, knowing that I could hit, spit on, or harassed for being openly gay.

Many others have it much much worse.

That's why we need gay pride, that's why the gay pride movement is important.
It's not just for us, it's for EVERYONE. It's a time to say "I am proud of who I am and you can't make me believe otherwise".

But until you have to face these issues yourself, it's really ignorant to try and tell us that we're wrong for expressing our proud feelings.

[James Bond]

It's pretty funny how you all try to have opinions on a situation that you don't understand.
See we have pride day, and we have big stories of celebrities coming out gay, because people try to say "being gay is wrong" or "it's a sin" or even better "it's a choice"

You need to understand that we are trying to show those assholes that we are PROUD of who we are, and we aren't scared to show it.

In my town, I can walk out of my house, knowing that I could hit, spit on, or harassed for being openly gay.

Many others have it much much worse.

That's why we need gay pride, that's why the gay pride movement is important.
It's not just for us, it's for EVERYONE. It's a time to say "I am proud of who I am and you can't make me believe otherwise".

But until you have to face these issues yourself, it's really ignorant to try and tell us that we're wrong for expressing our proud feelings.

I never said it was wrong. I am just comparing it to those who shove religion down people's throats. It's equally annoying.

[Sugaree]

But honestly, anyone who watches tv is aware of how much straight couples are "shoved in our faces" in the same way 100x more, and no one bats an eyelash.

Oh yes, you're so repressed because straight couples exist and are in common place media. Therefor, it MUST be shoved into your face, as you say, because they're there!

[sqishy]

Gah! What did he get banned for ?

[Poisonberry]

It's pretty funny how you all try to have opinions on a situation that you don't understand.
See we have pride day, and we have big stories of celebrities coming out gay, because people try to say "being gay is wrong" or "it's a sin" or even better "it's a choice"

You need to understand that we are trying to show those assholes that we are PROUD of who we are, and we aren't scared to show it.

In my town, I can walk out of my house, knowing that I could hit, spit on, or harassed for being openly gay.

Many others have it much much worse.

That's why we need gay pride, that's why the gay pride movement is important.
It's not just for us, it's for EVERYONE. It's a time to say "I am proud of who I am and you can't make me believe otherwise".

But until you have to face these issues yourself, it's really ignorant to try and tell us that we're wrong for expressing our proud feelings.

At this point I believe pride parades are doing more harm than good. I think when someone openly gay lives a quality life it shows a more positive image than what can be seen in a pride parade (I'm thinking of the boys in leather diapers, etc.).

I also feel that being not exactly straight my opinion is from a point of understanding. Just because my opinion differs from yours doesn't mean I don't have a grasp on the issue. I just personally have never felt the need to "come out" or otherwise announce my preference to the world. I wouldn't even know how to do that. The people I regularly interact with has been changing for a few years now as I travel a lot. Do I need to keep issuing bulletins to keep people up to date on my continuing openness to engage in sexual activity with girls? Does that question sound ridiculous? if it does then you're starting to grasp how silly all this "coming out" stuff is to the rest of us. Your sexuality is your business, unless I really want to sleep with you I couldn't care less.

The only people I can remotely imagine this is important for is celebrities, politicians, or other big figures in the media.

[The Outlier]

Somewhat. Pride parades and whatnot are used to spread awareness. It bothers me when people think they get to be better than everyone else just because they're gay.

[Celtic.]

I agree to a certain extent. I think you should be proud of who you are But I HATE and I mean HATE the homosexuals who are feminine and flaunt that shit. Its annoying as fuck. It comes to a point were its TO feminine. say there's a bug on a floor. some girls flip out some girls don't. With these guys they go WAYYYYYYY OVERBOARD. Like their gonna fucking die

They dress like women and act like women but aren't women! I think its a slap in the face to men everywhere. You shouldn't deserve to be called a man at that point. you don't have to go everywhere dressed like some hooker but don't shave your damn mustache or legs and get angry because someone called you sir and not ma'am.

Theres a guy on my bus who is Feminine but he never ever flaunts it. You can tell by the way he acts and dresses but hes not all like HAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL HOW U DOINNNNNNNNNNN?
Jesus Christ that's annoying to hear.

[Poisonberry]

Somewhat. Pride parades and whatnot are used to spread awareness. It bothers me when people think they get to be better than everyone else just because they're gay.

I think spreading awareness of the weirdest, darkest corners of the LGBT world is doing more harm than good. Marching in a pride parade the way you dress everyday is fine, wearing a leather diaper and dry humping every other guy wearing a leather diaper is not helping. That's where I think pride parades go wrong, the let's push the freaky shit on the straights attitude is doing more harm than good.

[Camazotz]

No, I don't agree because...

I. Don't. Care.

[deadpie]

See, the problem with everyone's fucking argument and belief is they believe someone should be something that they don't like or agree on simply because of that particular reason. I see it as pointless hatred.

I have a huge pet peeve of people who flaunt their sexuality, or wear their sexuality like its a badge of honor. I consider myself bi, but I promise you that you'd never see me at one of those Pride parades or me wearing a rainbow shirt that says I'm bi.

Good for you. What damage is it doing if someone wears a shirt saying "Guess what I'm gay"? Does it punch you in the face? Does it make you physically ill? Does it make you want to suck a mans cock? Why is it a bad thing for someone to be proud of what they are? I mean, the majority of gay people I've met AREN'T proud of what they are, if that makes you feel any better. They hate themselves. They're closeted. Suicidal. Depressed. Not happy with what they are. So when a gay person finally accepts themselves that's ok, but in your opinion, they shouldn't be TOO proud...

People shouldn't know your sexuality unless you're with your spouse or partner. I'm a private person

Here's the problem. You: are a private person. You: think people should keep their sexuality a secret. The problem: Not everyone is you! Not everyone has to keep every fucking thing about them a secret!

You're saying you SHOULDN'T. That means you literally believe telling your friends, family, people you care about or who may care about you, just don't tell them you're gay. Why? Because people should keep it to themselves? Because telling people is annoying and shoving it down people's throats? Do you know how fucking retarded that sounds? Absolutely beyond fucking retarded!

Why? If you're a guy and with guy friends, they're going to talk about women. Here I am, a gay guy, with a bunch of guys bragging about getting laid, getting da pussy all night long, big booty bitches, titties. Why would it be a problem for me to say, "Well, I'm gay, so I don't float that way" or mention that? No, I should keep it inside. No, I should pretend to be interested in women and talk about gettin the pussy wet. I should lie to myself and be more closeted, feel shittier. You basically want gay people to shut up and feel like garbage.

if I had a girlfriend, the only public affection I'd show her is a hug, hold hands, or a peck on the cheek or lips. That's it. I find it disrespectful if you're at the park where there's people around and you're making out with your significant other, it's rude and inconsiderate.

People do that shit all the time. No matter what sexuality I think it's annoying, personally, but I'd get over it. You're talking about this as if gay people are more prone to get dirty in public? I have NEVER seen a gay couple hold hands, kiss, a gay couple in public in general in my entire life. Maybe it's because the only places I've lived in are Texas, Nebraska, and Iowa. I just think your point is dumb.

People who wear their sexuality are just trying to shove their sexuality down people's throats, LGBTers who do that are just as bad as people who shove their religion down people's throats.

This is an extremely bizarre view. I've never met a gay person trying to shove their sexuality down someone's throats. You're saying that people that are gay, proud and i'm guessing wear anything that resembles they're gay is the EXACTLY the same as someone who shove's religion down others throats? Do you know what "shove religion down someone's throats" extends to? Wars and murder. That's where that goes. I don't see gay people going to the extent of murder and war over their pride in sexuality. How utterly fucking retarded of a view.

I have a distant cousin, he's gay. No one in my family knows if he's gay or not, but everyone assumes he is (I know personally cause he told my dad). That's how it should be. He shouldn't have rainbows painted all over his house, or he shouldn't have a shirt saying "I'm Queer and I'm Here" (or any variation of that). He should just continue his life like any other person. If he has a husband, he doesn't have to shove it down people's throats, but its not like his husband should be kept a secret.

What a fucking douchebag remark. Not every gay person that isn't self hating is going to be dressed in rainbows or have rainbows everywhere. It doesn't mean their fashion will flaunt it everywhere. Also, what the fuck is the problem with rainbows in the first place? Aren't they supposed to be some symbol of happiness and shit? I mean, I'm colorblind and wouldn't know anyways, but apparently rainbows are pretty to people and unique. You're basically taking a shit on pretty rainbows. Get over yourself man!

How hypocritical and confusing is it to say, "If he gets a husband, he shouldn't hive it down everyone's throats, but the husband shouldn't be kept a secret". That makes ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING SINCE WHATSOEVER. Also, how do you shove a husband down someone's throat? Metaphorically and literally? Metaphorically as in do you mean obsessively talking about your homosexual husband or casually? You probably don't care. I guess your view is that gay people that're married should talk about their husband as little as possible because you're straight and don't wanna hear that homo bullshit. That makes you a inconsiderate homophobic immature fucking douchebag.

Now literally as in how do you put a homosexual husband into someone's mouth. Like, how do you do it? You would have to cut the body into small pieces and feed it over time.

My overall opinion, is don't shove your sexuality down my, or anyone else's throat.

I still don't get this. How does one really push it onto another people? It's not like a gay person being obnoxious about being gay is going to make you gay or feel a little gay or have gay feelings or "act gay" whatever the fuck that means. I don't think this is even possible. I don't get how you can even make the possible relation to a 'religious' person pushing their beliefs onto someone else. I just don't fucking get where the fuck you're coming from man.. I mean, I've stood around listening to very detailed sexual conservation's with straight guys and women as well. It didn't feel "pushy" in any way to me. The only thing it made me feel is jealous. Jealous that I'm not straight and can't relate to them. Jealous that they don't hate their sexuality like I do. Jealous that they probably don't feel like society wants them to just fucking roll over and die.

The amount of people that agree with you BLOWS MY FUCKING MIND! A year ago on this site I don't think I would ever see this. There's even users on here pro-LGBT and agreeing with you. DAMN! VT sure has changed. Extremely disappointing. I thought that the coming years of teenagers would be just as smart, just as thought provoking as many of the users I met when I joined this site.

The funny thing about this user is he's bi and I bet he probably doesn't like the fact he likes guys. I bet he'll be one of the bi guys that can't any contact with a guy unless it's "discrete". Do you know what discrete means in the gay community? It means closeted. It mostly means shame. And nobody should be ashamed of what they are - something they cannot control. Nobody should have to feel the need they have to hide what they are a secret because some fucking douchebags would get a tad bit butthurt and disgusted, feeling like being around someone that's gay is some evil agenda trying to make them gay or some bullshit. That's all it is. Complete fucking bullshit.

Yeah, I'm mad. This thread bothers me more than almost any other thing I've seen on this site.

Personally, I'm confused by those that think they need to "come out". Why? What's the point? I'm not saying not to live your life honestly, I just don't see what the big deal is making an announcement to the world and I'm guessing following up with quarterly reports on the state of your sexual preference. Otherwise, what if you slip back into the closet? :)

Why do you follow that comment up with a smiley face? That doesn't sound like anything nice. Slipping back into the closet after coming out? How would that even work? What? WHAT?

What's the point of coming out? HMMMMMMM. LET ME THINK HERE. Because it's KIND OF A BIG DEAL TO SOCIETY. WHY? Because.... Let me think REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW. Maybe because Christian Conservatives along with many other people using religion as a method of hatred towards gay people has floated into the media, politics and society as a whole. That's a big deal! It's a big deal because gay people go through an INTENSE amount of emotions and emotional torment over finding out what they are. It's beyond recognition to realize you're gay and you cannot change that, then find out a huge chunk of society hates you. Despises you. Would protest your fucking funeral. Family would possibly DISOWN YOU. YES, that happens! There are homeless children that were kicked out for coming out of the closet.

Obviously, it's a big deal. I don't know why I should even have to continue discussing it.

I'm someone who believes sexuality isnt permanent, like its not set in stone. I believe if we tried hard enough, we can change anything about ourselves mentally. If we have anxiety or depression, we can fix that, if we have anger issues, we can fix that, so why if we can change and fix all that can't we fix our sexuality? That whole logic makes no sense to me. I believe our brains are especially moldable while we're young, and as we grow older it becomes harder and harder, but not impossible. Yet I assure you that you will see many people quote me on this and ignorantly denounce everything I said, because they believe that sexuality is set in stone from the moment you're born into this life. If homosexuality is a gene, then it's going to act like other genes, including the warrior gene.


I'm sure if I gave 100% effort, I could change from being bi to being straight, it will just take time and outside support (something I don't have because no one knows I'm bi). I'm not really willing to change though, too much work and I much prefer gay porn then straight, let alone lesbian.

One thing I will say, is I believe sexuality is a combo of nature vs nurture. Some people may be more prone to have homosexual tendencies than others, but its up to our environment on whether or not we unlock those tendencies. It's much like different genes in our body, such as the newly discovered "Warrior Gene". The gene is commonly found in serial killers, but there are many ordinary people who have it yet aren't violent what so ever, they say they aren't violent because of how they were raised. But they are still prone to it.

This post is basically bla bla bla I think which means I know which means it's proof, there's science to it and it's right, which also means COMPLETE FUCKING BULLSHIT. I don't believe sexuality can be changed. I've tried it. Yes, I've tried to get myself interested in women. When I was much younger I even got in a relationship with a girl. I went as far as I could to "make myself straight". In response it only made me hate myself more.

I've seen documentaries on gay teenagers forced into camps to "convert them to purified straight Christians" and in response they commit suicide. Nobody should have to commit SUICIDE over their sexuality. The amount of people saying "What's the big deal". You have no, NO CLUE. Did you know LGBT teens and young adults have one of the highest rates of suicide attempts.

I agree to a certain extent. I think you should be proud of who you are But I HATE and I mean HATE the homosexuals who are feminine and flaunt that shit. Its annoying as fuck. It comes to a point were its TO feminine. say there's a bug on a floor. some girls flip out some girls don't. With these guys they go WAYYYYYYY OVERBOARD. Like their gonna fucking die

Ever thought that is just how the person is? That maybe that's how their personality is and they can't control it? Sure, I'm not a fan of people that are obnoxious. I have anxiety and it kind of freaks me out when people are loud and 'animated'. Do I hate those people? No.

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There's people who will say, "Oh I hate gays with lisps". Ever thought they can't just magically make their voice sound different? That's just how their voice is? There's straight people with it too. I don't have one. Every person I've told that I'm gay won't believe me at first. It takes convincing. And that's another huge problem - everyone has this idea that the average and typical gay person is some latino with gelled back hair who's extremely obnoxious with a lisp, wears a shirt showing he's gay, wears loads of pink, watches glee, wears women's clothes at times, hits on straight guys, makes out with gay guys in public out of nowhere, is some dirty 60 year old pedophile, is a militant atheist, caused 9/11, there's so much fucking bullshit attached to what people think of what a gay person is.

Do you want to know the truth? Anyone can be gay. Doesn't matter what race you are, religion, your interests, hobbies, ANYONE can be gay. Don't judge people. People are much more complicated then you can ever imagine. I've always tried to explain that to people. Everyone on this planet is a different human being.

You can't just tell me what I'm aloud to talk about and not aloud to talk about. To be honest, I typically don't tell someone I'm gay until a conversation about relationships or women comes up. Or I might joke on it. Funny part is I haven't met any adults that have been bothered. I've met young kids and teenagers that are extremely immature that have gotten bothered about it, but people I've worked with? People from college? No big deal. Anyone that has a problem with someone else on something they cannot control is a douchebag. That's all. If you hate someone because they're simply black, you're a douchebag. If you hate someone who has a different set of beliefs then you, you're a douchebag. If you hate someone because they're gay and you're straight, you're a douchebag. It's all pretty fucking simple.

[EddietheZombie]

I dont care really what you do behind closed doors, but try not to bring it into public. Everyone should have rights, but there is such thing as abuse of rights. To quote one of my favorite comedians: "I feel the same way about gays as i do about second hand smoke. Its not my business what you do, just dont blow it in my face."

[Poisonberry]

Why do you follow that comment up with a smiley face? That doesn't sound like anything nice. Slipping back into the closet after coming out? How would that even work? What? WHAT?

What's the point of coming out? HMMMMMMM. LET ME THINK HERE. Because it's KIND OF A BIG DEAL TO SOCIETY. WHY? Because.... Let me think REALLY HARD RIGHT NOW. Maybe because Christian Conservatives along with many other people using religion as a method of hatred towards gay people has floated into the media, politics and society as a whole. That's a big deal! It's a big deal because gay people go through an INTENSE amount of emotions and emotional torment over finding out what they are. It's beyond recognition to realize you're gay and you cannot change that, then find out a huge chunk of society hates you. Despises you. Would protest your fucking funeral. Family would possibly DISOWN YOU. YES, that happens! There are homeless children that were kicked out for coming out of the closet.

Obviously, it's a big deal. I don't know why I should even have to continue discussing it.


LOL, little worked up are we? I wonder if you realize that the bulk of what you posted is to a banned user that probably won't even see it. Oh well, it's your time and your vitriol, use it as you see fit. :)

You don't like smiley faces? :)

Why not? :)

I love smiley faces. :)

I think it's only a big deal to society at this point because some people make it a big deal. I see it like race, if no one cared about race then racism would just cease to exist. Sexuality is the same to me, I don't care what your sexuality is, it's just not a big deal to me. :)

Uh oh, gay people go through an INTENSE amount of torment? I thought everyone did. I guess I just didn't realize how special it was to be gay. Oh wait, it's not. :)

Peoples families disown them all the time, sometimes because they are gay, sometimes for other reasons. Maybe you should do some of that real hard thinking and see if you can realize how big of deal this isn't. :)

Can't wait to hear from you. :)

[deadpie]

Uh oh, gay people go through an INTENSE amount of torment? I thought everyone did. I guess I just didn't realize how special it was to be gay. Oh wait, it's not. :)

I'm quite sure not everyone on this planet goes through intense amount of emotional torment. Gay people are prone to it more. Like I said, gay youth are at the highest rates of suicide attempts.

Peoples families disown them all the time, sometimes because they are gay, sometimes for other reasons. Maybe you should do some of that real hard thinking and see if you can realize how big of deal this isn't. :)

You don't think being disowned is a big deal? Uh.... It is? Being kicked out and homeless is a pretty big fucking deal. I'm supposed to be the one doing hard thinking about that thought? You're kidding, right?

[Poisonberry]

I'm quite sure not everyone on this planet goes through intense amount of emotional torment. Gay people are prone to it more. Like I said, gay youth are at the highest rates of suicide attempts.

I'm so glad I found you, I've been looking high and low for the person that was the arbitrator of personal pain. Now you can inform us of who is really suffering more. Personally, I'm not so arrogant as to think I can compare peoples pain and/or suffering to see who the "winner" is, but not we've got you. Thank God. :)



You don't think being disowned is a big deal? Uh.... It is? Being kicked out and homeless is a pretty big fucking deal. I'm supposed to be the one doing hard thinking about that thought? You're kidding, right?

I don't think being disowned for being gay is any bigger a deal than being disowned for anything else. Since the thinking real hard exercise apparently failed let me help you out: Gay people are not any more special than any other people. Everyone's life has it's tough parts. Some of us are dealt pretty shitty hands in this life, some not so much, but who the fuck put you in charge of deciding? Get over yourself. :)

[deadpie]

I'm so glad I found you, I've been looking high and low for the person that was the arbitrator of personal pain. Now you can inform us of who is really suffering more. Personally, I'm not so arrogant as to think I can compare peoples pain and/or suffering to see who the "winner" is, but not we've got you. Thank God. :)
I don't think being disowned for being gay is any bigger a deal than being disowned for anything else. Since the thinking real hard exercise apparently failed let me help you out: Gay people are not any more special than any other people. Everyone's life has it's tough parts. Some of us are dealt pretty shitty hands in this life, some not so much, but who the fuck put you in charge of deciding? Get over yourself. :)

Obv aren't listening. I'm not saying being gay is some special amazing thing. I'm saying gay people have a larger chance of being disowned and having to deal with tons of garbage. There are studies that support this.Gay teens are five times more likely to attempt suicide. (http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/study-gay-teens-five-times-more-likely-to-attempt-suicide/) More research. (http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/740429) And it should make since. Being hated by the World for something you cannot control is quite a lot to deal with.

Here's some information from the National Coalition for the Homeless. (http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/lgbtq.html)

LGBT persons often have great difficulty finding shelters that accept and respect them. Transgender people are often forced to classify themselves as a gender with which they do not identify. These individuals are particularly at physical risk in shelters. This risk comes from a lack of acceptance. Ex. Transgender women (born with male genitalia but identify and live as women) forced to take shelter with heterosexual men are frequently subjected to verbal, physical, and sexual abuse. Transgender individuals are often turned away from shelters and in some cases signs have been posted barring their entrance.

20% of homeless youth are LGBT. In comparison, the general youth population is only 10% LGBT.
While homeless youth typically experience severe family conflict as the primary reason for their homelessness, LGBT youth are twice as likely to experience sexual abuse before the age of 12.
LGBT youth, once homeless, are at higher risk for victimization, mental health problems, and unsafe sexual practices. 58.7% of LGBT homeless youth have been sexually victimized compared to 33.4% of heterosexual homeless youth
LGBT youth are roughly 7.4 times more likely to experience acts of sexual violence than heterosexual homeless youth
LGBT homeless youth commit suicide at higher rates (62%) than heterosexual homeless youth (29%)

[Horizon]

Oh yes, you're so repressed because straight couples exist and are in common place media. Therefor, it MUST be shoved into your face, as you say, because they're there!

I agree with you 100% to be honest. Straight couples are NOT shoved in our faces, or down our throats.

At this point I believe pride parades are doing more harm than good. I think when someone openly gay lives a quality life it shows a more positive image than what can be seen in a pride parade (I'm thinking of the boys in leather diapers, etc.).

I also feel that being not exactly straight my opinion is from a point of understanding. Just because my opinion differs from yours doesn't mean I don't have a grasp on the issue. I just personally have never felt the need to "come out" or otherwise announce my preference to the world. I wouldn't even know how to do that. The people I regularly interact with has been changing for a few years now as I travel a lot. Do I need to keep issuing bulletins to keep people up to date on my continuing openness to engage in sexual activity with girls? Does that question sound ridiculous? if it does then you're starting to grasp how silly all this "coming out" stuff is to the rest of us. Your sexuality is your business, unless I really want to sleep with you I couldn't care less.

The only people I can remotely imagine this is important for is celebrities, politicians, or other big figures in the media.

The fact that you aren't out just adds to it all. You wouldn't understand the hate we get, because you kept it to yourself. I can't go a damn day without getting called a fag by someone, or getting glares.
and pride parades are the best fucking thing. It's going to be one of those things that helps us in a big manner. Sure people won't like them, but that's just how life is, isn't it? Some people like you, some don't. But when it comes to this, they need to grow the fuck up. We're gay we're here, and you can't tell us we chose this, and hating on us just makes you look ignorant.

Come to me and talk to me about this again, when you're out of the closet, okay? Come and talk about it when you understand first hand what it's like to experience this life, and than maybe your posts on here will hold some value to them.

AND SEXUALITY IS NOT ABOUT SEX. THAT WAS AN EXTREMELY IGNORANT STATEMENT. SEXUALITY IS ABOUT WHO YOU LOVE/ARE ATTRACTED TO. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I DO IN BED. ITS ABOUT WHO WE LOVE.

And being okay with your sexuality and open with it is important for EVERYONE. Having people be okay with your sexuality is also important.
If people honestly think it's wrong, they are assholes. It's not a matter of opinion, they need to learn to grow up, so we kind of have to put it out there that we are gay.

I'm so glad I found you, I've been looking high and low for the person that was the arbitrator of personal pain. Now you can inform us of who is really suffering more. Personally, I'm not so arrogant as to think I can compare peoples pain and/or suffering to see who the "winner" is, but not we've got you. Thank God. :)




I don't think being disowned for being gay is any bigger a deal than being disowned for anything else. Since the thinking real hard exercise apparently failed let me help you out: Gay people are not any more special than any other people. Everyone's life has it's tough parts. Some of us are dealt pretty shitty hands in this life, some not so much, but who the fuck put you in charge of deciding? Get over yourself. :)

There was arrogance written all over this post.
Let me tell you a thing, sweetie :)

This entire thread has to do with homosexuality, so that's why it remains to be the damn topic. Just because he didn't bring up other kids that get disowned for various reasons, doesn't mean that he says they are fucking less.
Getting disowned is equally horrible, regardless of reasons.
But, it just stings for people just that extra bit when it's something they can't change about themselves.

And after reading your posts, all you're doing is reading, assuming what he meant, instead of actually listening to his words. That gets really annoying really fast, and its not a good way to debate.

There I've said my peace, maybe my words might reach someone. But right now, that's just wishful thinking.

[Poisonberry]

The fact that you aren't out just adds to it all. You wouldn't understand the hate we get, because you kept it to yourself. I can't go a damn day without getting called a fag by someone, or getting glares.
and pride parades are the best fucking thing. It's going to be one of those things that helps us in a big manner. Sure people won't like them, but that's just how life is, isn't it? Some people like you, some don't. But when it comes to this, they need to grow the fuck up. We're gay we're here, and you can't tell us we chose this, and hating on us just makes you look ignorant.

How "out" does one need to be before one can have a valid opinion?

No one in my world has the problem of being "called a fag by someone". Maybe it's just the company I keep.

Pride parades are, in theory, just fine. They are, in practice, doing way more harm than good. It's a petulant attempt by a certain segment of the LGBT community to shove something in the face of straights that would go down a lot smoother if they weren't so abrasive. At this point in time "pride parades" are doing more to turn the mainstream public away from acceptance than embrace it. Believe it or don't, makes no difference to me.



Come to me and talk to me about this again, when you're out of the closet, okay? Come and talk about it when you understand first hand what it's like to experience this life, and than maybe your posts on here will hold some value to them.

Again, how out does one need to be? If I'm making out with a girl at a party, and this does happen frequently enough, is that out? Or do I need to have tshirts printed and have a bat mitzvah style ceremony to mark the occasion?

I think you're making a lot of assumptions. I don't do a damn thing to hide who I am, I just don't go around passing out cards that announce my sexual preferences. Maybe you can come back to me when you "grow the fuck up" as you put it and are out of high school and have experienced the real world where no one id particularly interested in who you like to fuck. Or better yet, don't bother.



AND SEXUALITY IS NOT ABOUT SEX. THAT WAS AN EXTREMELY IGNORANT STATEMENT. SEXUALITY IS ABOUT WHO YOU LOVE/ARE ATTRACTED TO. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I DO IN BED. ITS ABOUT WHO WE LOVE.

If you aren't attracted to them for the purpose of sex and intimacy then maybe we're not talking about the same thing. I never realized this was about celibacy in any of it's forms.


And being okay with your sexuality and open with it is important for EVERYONE. Having people be okay with your sexuality is also important.
If people honestly think it's wrong, they are assholes. It's not a matter of opinion, they need to learn to grow up, so we kind of have to put it out there that we are gay.

Other than calling anyone that disagrees with you an asshole do you have any sort of solid argument as to why it's important for EVERYONE to be open with their sexuality.

And if people think you're wrong they are not assholes, they are people with a different opinion. There are many, many sexual practices that aren't accepted by the mainstream. Are people assholes if they oppose you fucking your mom? How about a goat? To some people these are perfectly acceptable things to do, so I guess you're an asshole if you don't embrace them too. Or maybe you just need to learn to grow up. Do you see at all how blatantly ridiculous your argument is when put into this perspective? I hope so because I shan't waste another post leading you to the light.




There was arrogance written all over this post.
Let me tell you a thing, sweetie :)

Isn't that cleaver? You tell me how arrogant I am and follow it up with extreme condensation.



This entire thread has to do with homosexuality, so that's why it remains to be the damn topic. Just because he didn't bring up other kids that get disowned for various reasons, doesn't mean that he says they are fucking less.
Getting disowned is equally horrible, regardless of reasons.
But, it just stings for people just that extra bit when it's something they can't change about themselves.

So gay people are extra special. They feel things more deeply and should be treated differently because of it. Hmm. I disagree.



And after reading your posts, all you're doing is reading, assuming what he meant, instead of actually listening to his words. That gets really annoying really fast, and its not a good way to debate.

You do seem kinda like an expert on how not to debate, so I guess I should listen to you.


There I've said my peace, maybe my words might reach someone. But right now, that's just wishful thinking.

Well taking up with deadpie probably isn't the best way to do that, but hey, you never know. Good luck with your social bias. Maybe someday I'll be out of the closet enough to be special like you and deserve all the extra consideration gay people are entitled to. :)

[britishboy]

all they do is bad, nothing good comes out of those events, straight or gay!

[Poisonberry]

all they do is bad, nothing good comes out of those events, straight or gay!

Oh come now, how can you say that? They need to let people know how special they are and how deserving of special consideration they are. How do you expect to them to do that without... well just look up gay pride parade on youtube and you'll see. It's apparently very important to wear little to no clothing and gyrate "seductively" in the street, because it has nothing whatsoever to do with sex.

[Sugaree]

all they do is bad, nothing good comes out of those events, straight or gay!

And this is why parts of the LGBT community are so anti-cis-gender. It's shit like this that makes us think you really DON'T care.

[Horizon]

How "out" does one need to be before one can have a valid opinion?

No one in my world has the problem of being "called a fag by someone". Maybe it's just the company I keep.

Pride parades are, in theory, just fine. They are, in practice, doing way more harm than good. It's a petulant attempt by a certain segment of the LGBT community to shove something in the face of straights that would go down a lot smoother if they weren't so abrasive. At this point in time "pride parades" are doing more to turn the mainstream public away from acceptance than embrace it. Believe it or don't, makes no difference to me.




Again, how out does one need to be? If I'm making out with a girl at a party, and this does happen frequently enough, is that out? Or do I need to have tshirts printed and have a bat mitzvah style ceremony to mark the occasion?

I think you're making a lot of assumptions. I don't do a damn thing to hide who I am, I just don't go around passing out cards that announce my sexual preferences. Maybe you can come back to me when you "grow the fuck up" as you put it and are out of high school and have experienced the real world where no one id particularly interested in who you like to fuck. Or better yet, don't bother.




If you aren't attracted to them for the purpose of sex and intimacy then maybe we're not talking about the same thing. I never realized this was about celibacy in any of it's forms.



Other than calling anyone that disagrees with you an asshole do you have any sort of solid argument as to why it's important for EVERYONE to be open with their sexuality.

And if people think you're wrong they are not assholes, they are people with a different opinion. There are many, many sexual practices that aren't accepted by the mainstream. Are people assholes if they oppose you fucking your mom? How about a goat? To some people these are perfectly acceptable things to do, so I guess you're an asshole if you don't embrace them too. Or maybe you just need to learn to grow up. Do you see at all how blatantly ridiculous your argument is when put into this perspective? I hope so because I shan't waste another post leading you to the light.





Isn't that cleaver? You tell me how arrogant I am and follow it up with extreme condensation.




So gay people are extra special. They feel things more deeply and should be treated differently because of it. Hmm. I disagree.




You do seem kinda like an expert on how not to debate, so I guess I should listen to you.



Well taking up with deadpie probably isn't the best way to do that, but hey, you never know. Good luck with your social bias. Maybe someday I'll be out of the closet enough to be special like you and deserve all the extra consideration gay people are entitled to. :)

Oh come now, how can you say that? They need to let people know how special they are and how deserving of special consideration they are. How do you expect to them to do that without... well just look up gay pride parade on youtube and you'll see. It's apparently very important to wear little to no clothing and gyrate "seductively" in the street, because it has nothing whatsoever to do with sex.


I am not going to even bother with a lot of rebuttals for this, but I am going to give these few:

I said before, you have no idea what it's like to experience the hate, it has nothing to do with the company of people. I surround myself with friends that accept me, but that doesn't stop other people from hating on me.

So when you want to form a valid opinion on how the LGBT crowd gets treated, you DO need to experience it.

And no one said that we need special treatment, now you're being an idiot and putting words in our mouth, another bad way to debate.

And the whole point of that comment was for me to come off as condescending because that's how YOU have been coming off the entire time.

And I am no expert at how to debate, but you are going about it all wrong. You're using circular logic, you're putting words in other people's mouths, and you're just assuming what they mean, instead of taking the time to try and see it from the other side, instead of your own.

But like I said, you wouldn't understand either way. It's actually really ignorant to try and form an opinion on something that you don't understand.
You do have to understand something here, you don't know what it's like to spend your time having all these people tell you that you're wrong for being a way that you can't change.

I've had my own family ((not immediate family)) disown me because I was openly gay, and my sister for being openly lesbian.

do you fucking understand how much that hurts? That's my own damn family and they just treat me like I am dirt because they can't understand who I am.
It wouldn't matter for what ever reason it was, and I myself can say that it does sting a lot. It really does.

But yes you're right, you're a teenager and you know everything, I must have missed that memo, sorry. Next time I need to know something about my own issues, I'll just come to you, okay? :)

[deadpie]

No one in my world has the problem of being "called a fag by someone". Maybe it's just the company I keep.

Yeah, calling someone a faggot and bullying them doesn't do any damage to anyone, absolutely never! Hahahhaha. What a joke! You're kidding right? Faggot is an insult word.

Again, how out does one need to be? If I'm making out with a girl at a party, and this does happen frequently enough, is that out? Or do I need to have tshirts printed and have a bat mitzvah style ceremony to mark the occasion?

You don't realize that people can be out of the closet without having to wear it on their sleeve, shirt or make out with random guys everywhere. In fact, telling a few people your gay is enough for everyone to eventually gossip and find out. I don't think Mickel threw a party to reveal it. I think it's something he felt like he would feel better getting off his chest.

And what's the problem with that? Hiding your sexuality, lying in conversations nonstop, having to live the lie at times, it's not fun. It's depressing.

Are people assholes if they oppose you fucking your mom? How about a goat? To some people these are perfectly acceptable things to do, so I guess you're an asshole if you don't embrace them too. Or maybe you just need to learn to grow up.

This is offensive and hypocritical. Here you're telling Mickel that it's possible someone wouldn't be an asshole for opposing "him fucking his mom" (Which is impossible for him to do, because he's gay) and then you tell him to grow up and call him an asshole. You're going off the wall right here. Bizarre. Let me get this through again. 1) You debate the idea that homophobes and racists are the same to people that fuck their own moms are discriminated because 2) In some random third world country places that type of incest is totally fine 3) Even though it's obviously not fine at all 4) This POV has nothing to do with the topic at all 5) Off the wall random, something I'd think of on PCP and DXM.

Isn't that cleaver? You tell me how arrogant I am and follow it up with extreme condensation.

OH YOU'RE SO CLEVER. YOU THINK YER SO SPECIAL BLA BLA SPECIAL SPECIAL! SPECIAL.

So gay people are extra special. They feel things more deeply and should be treated differently because of it. Hmm. I disagree.

You are so full of it... Nobody, NOBODY is saying gay people are "extra special" or "special" in general. I HAVE proved with studies that gay people are prone to more mental/emotional health issues, due to what society has put on us. The studies make perfect fucking since. I don't get how you wouldn't understand it at this point. How does the amount of garbage one deals with more than someone else make the person "special" at all, like you say? It's not a special magic beautiful gift. It's complete shit. It sucks ass.

You do seem kinda like an expert on how not to debate, so I guess I should listen to you.

I like how you use the comment "I guess I should listen to you" as a way of ironic sarcasm in multiple posts. A) You believe the person debating against you thinks they know everything, but you know you're wrong because B) You think you know everything, when in fact C) Nobody knows everything at all D) Some people know what they're talking about more than others, but that doesn't make you not smart, it just means you're E) Wrong on this certain subject in which you think you're 110 percent correct F) Sometimes being wrong is ok. Move on, get over it, use a smiley face and get off your high horse.

Well taking up with deadpie probably isn't the best way to do that, but hey, you never know. Good luck with your social bias. Maybe someday I'll be out of the closet enough to be special like you and deserve all the extra consideration gay people are entitled to. :)

Uh, Mickel and I never said we need extra consideration at all. For the fucking love of Satan, can you stop saying the word special? This isn't social bias. This is called equality. Something that should be obvious to the world as a whole. Something that shouldn't be a big deal or important at all, but it is. All we're asking for is to be accepted, just like every fucking human on the planet wants to be accepted for who they are.

[saea97]

When I first "came out", I lost 3 out of my 4 core friends and routinely had notes with "fag" on them put in my locker. The solutions to my problem were to a) stay in the closet and repress one of the key elements about myself or b) join the campaign against bigotry. Guess which I chose?

Bigotry still exists, and to oppose people being proud and open about their sexuality is an indirect aid to people who are bigoted by their misunderstanding.

[britishboy]

you cant blame people for not wanting to have gay friends, sad but true

and the gay pride parades, ruin city centers when theyre on, make the place uncomfortable and intimidating and ultimately annoy the locals/ city goes so annoying the people that see the protest, isn't doing any good just a horrible, irritating eye sore

[saea97]

you cant blame people for not wanting to have gay friends, sad but true

Great; I can't blame people for being homophobic, and also it's wrong to try to change the mindset and stop people bullying me and making me feel like shit. Those poor homophobes, being exposed to my gayness all the time.


and the gay pride parades, ruin city centers when theyre on, make the place uncomfortable and intimidating and ultimately annoy the locals/ city goes so annoying the people that see the protest, isn't doing any good just a horrible, irritating eye sore

Opinion, opinion, bigotry, opinion. I know plenty of local, heterosexual people who welcome the pride events. My grandparents have marched in our city's for the last 3 years.

[britishboy]

I'm not debating this, I support the LGBT community completely just believe the protests do more harm than good

[Sugaree]

I'm not debating this, I support the LGBT community completely just believe the protests do more harm than good

lol then why did you even bother posting? You're not even helping your own arguments, which are nothing more than "BUT BUT MY FEELINGS MATTER TOO!"

[Tze-]

I agree to a certain extent. I think you should be proud of who you are But I HATE and I mean HATE the homosexuals who are feminine and flaunt that shit. Its annoying as fuck. It comes to a point were its TO feminine. say there's a bug on a floor. some girls flip out some girls don't. With these guys they go WAYYYYYYY OVERBOARD. Like their gonna fucking die

They dress like women and act like women but aren't women! I think its a slap in the face to men everywhere. You shouldn't deserve to be called a man at that point. you don't have to go everywhere dressed like some hooker but don't shave your damn mustache or legs and get angry because someone called you sir and not ma'am.

Theres a guy on my bus who is Feminine but he never ever flaunts it. You can tell by the way he acts and dresses but hes not all like HAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL HOW U DOINNNNNNNNNNN?
Jesus Christ that's annoying to hear.

How can so much bullshit fit in one post.

sumone halp me i dun unnerstan

[Emerald Dream]

This thread is being locked because:

- the OP is banned
- the debating here is pretty ridiculous, and borderline on personal attacks. In the future, please be more respectful toward others.

:locked: