Do Not Enter Syria

[Nellerin]

I've seen some people posting false information regarding why we should enter Syria and "take down Assad."

I'd like to share some actual, real information as to what has been happening over there.

Based off of what the rebels have stated, they are responsible for the chemical weapons attack of August 21. Also, Russian and internal investigations led to a serious of rebel locations which housed ingredients for homemade chemical weapons.

Almost none of the rebel leaders are actually Syrian, most have come in from other countries and are part of al Qaeda.

That being said, the US has therefore been funding terrorists during the entire operation.

The US wants to enter Syria but not because of chemical weapons. Syria is a Proxy conflict which the US wants to use to get at Iran and Russia.

Iran is the last independent oil state selling oil without going through the US dollar, this has been used by China which is why China would likely attack the US if we enter Syria.

It's about money, not morals or ethics.

World War 3 is a distinct possibilities based off of how many nuclear-capable countries would be involved in the Syria conflict if the US enters.

Therefore, stay out. Enough funding and helping people that are primarily terrorists.

[likemike]

I Syriaously doubt Obama knows what hes doing

[Nellerin]

I Syriaously doubt Obama knows what hes doing

Obama is not the one deciding this. A plan to enter Syria has been in effect since around two weeks after 9/11, in which the US laid out a plan to take over seven Middle Eastern countries.

[likemike]

Obama is not the one deciding this. A plan to enter Syria has been in effect since around two weeks after 9/11, in which the US laid out a plan to take over seven Middle Eastern countries.

You clearly overlooked my pun

[Professional Russian]

I smell conspiracy in making

[Nellerin]

I smell conspiracy in making

It's been an ongoing conspiracy. Unfortunately, the US was unable to gain control in Syria and Iran before, they are just trying to do it this time and finish the job.

[Professional Russian]

I mean what your saying sounds like a conspiracy. I see no proof to validate anything you said

[Nellerin]

I mean what your saying sounds like a conspiracy. I see no proof to validate anything you said

Official UN report proved March chemical attack was rebels. Now, rebel leaders took responsibility for August attack as well.

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5kda1KhqlU

Iran has publicly retaliated against the US imperialism with their Oil Bourse which now sells in gold, euros, and yen primarily. China has used this to allow them to receive oil without using dollars.

The rebels which McCain loves so much recently killed 24 people including a baby. And by the way, they did not just kill them, they beheaded them.

Also, recently shown that Senators who supported Syria strike received 83% more in defense contributions that those that did not. All about $$

[Elysium]

What are your sources? I'd like to see for myself. The articles I've been reading, while similar, don't exactly make the same claims. Some of them do corroborate, though.

[James Bond]

I've seen some people posting false information regarding why we should enter Syria and "take down Assad."

I'd like to share some actual, real information as to what has been happening over there.

Based off of what the rebels have stated, they are responsible for the chemical weapons attack of August 21. Also, Russian and internal investigations led to a serious of rebel locations which housed ingredients for homemade chemical weapons.

Almost none of the rebel leaders are actually Syrian, most have come in from other countries and are part of al Qaeda.

That being said, the US has therefore been funding terrorists during the entire operation.

The US wants to enter Syria but not because of chemical weapons. Syria is a Proxy conflict which the US wants to use to get at Iran and Russia.

Iran is the last independent oil state selling oil without going through the US dollar, this has been used by China which is why China would likely attack the US if we enter Syria.

It's about money, not morals or ethics.

World War 3 is a distinct possibilities based off of how many nuclear-capable countries would be involved in the Syria conflict if the US enters.

Therefore, stay out. Enough funding and helping people that are primarily terrorists.
What exactly makes your information so reliable? You have cited no sources, for all we know this information is just as faulty as "some people posting false information". The video you provided looks just like those stupid conspiracy videos.
I Syriaously doubt Obama knows what hes doing
I definitely agree. He should focus on the education of America.

[ksdnfkfr]

The thing with all this is, we can uncover whatever plots might be going on and plot holes and serious mistakes, but there's nothing we can do about it. Whatever is going to happen is going to happen and ordinary citizens are going to be powerless to stop it, no matter what kind of information they have. We are at the mercy of power hungry foolish leaders. Instead of trying to make the world a better place, they pull this kind of crap instead. And all we can do is sit back and watch it happen.

[ToxicApple69]

I doubt nukes will ever start flying, we had a few close calls, but they were all bluffs.

The Syrian army shouldn't be a problem, but the US army will definetely meet its match against China, Iran, and Russia. A nuclear strike is possible, as Putin announced. (http://rt.com/news/syria-strike-nuclear-disaster-427/)

See this video on YouTube if you want to know the politically incorrect truth about the conflict in Syria.

http://youtu.be/BK0J5jgf36M


Obama is not the one deciding this. A plan to enter Syria has been in effect since around two weeks after 9/11, in which the US laid out a plan to take over seven Middle Eastern countries.

Absolutely true. One of the generals or commanded even admitted it, I believe the video is the same link I posted.

[britishboy]

I've seen some people posting false information regarding why we should enter Syria and "take down Assad."

I'd like to share some actual, real information as to what has been happening over there.

Based off of what the rebels have stated, they are responsible for the chemical weapons attack of August 21. Also, Russian and internal investigations led to a serious of rebel locations which housed ingredients for homemade chemical weapons.

Almost none of the rebel leaders are actually Syrian, most have come in from other countries and are part of al Qaeda.

That being said, the US has therefore been funding terrorists during the entire operation.

The US wants to enter Syria but not because of chemical weapons. Syria is a Proxy conflict which the US wants to use to get at Iran and Russia.

Iran is the last independent oil state selling oil without going through the US dollar, this has been used by China which is why China would likely attack the US if we enter Syria.

It's about money, not morals or ethics.

World War 3 is a distinct possibilities based off of how many nuclear-capable countries would be involved in the Syria conflict if the US enters.

Therefore, stay out. Enough funding and helping people that are primarily terrorists.

I Syriaously doubt Obama knows what hes doing

Official UN report proved March chemical attack was rebels. Now, rebel leaders took responsibility for August attack as well.

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5kda1KhqlU

Iran has publicly retaliated against the US imperialism with their Oil Bourse which now sells in gold, euros, and yen primarily. China has used this to allow them to receive oil without using dollars.

The rebels which McCain loves so much recently killed 24 people including a baby. And by the way, they did not just kill them, they beheaded them.

Also, recently shown that Senators who supported Syria strike received 83% more in defense contributions that those that did not. All about $$

firstly grow up, no conspiracy theories please

secondly how would you like it if you was it in Syria? would you let me buy you a plane ticket and rent you a flat in Damascus? I doubt it. if we was in trouble we would expect help, stop being a hypocrite!

[Cygnus]

How about we kill them all? There will be no conflict if there is no one to make it.

With all seriousness though, I don't think the US can afford another war.

[Yolo98]

Agreed . We should be supporting Assad so that people of Syria can live in harmony in a secular country , where minorities are not discriminated against , where woman are not oppressed. The rebels are jihadists , supporting them after afghanistan would be hypocritical.

[Sir Suomi]

They made this mess. It's not our responsibility to clean it up.

[Azunite]

Thank you!

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02168/asma-assad_2168255b.jpg

I mean, look at this couple. A tie and no headscarf. This is what the Middle East needs.

[comical]

I Syriaously doubt Obama knows what hes doing

lol. I've always been a strong supporter of President Obama, but lately his priorities are completely out of order. Also, his plans on foreign affairs are just ridiculous..

As George said above, it's not our responsibility. I'm sure the US would not have tolerated military intervention or "assistance" from other nations when this country was murdering Black people just because they were Black during the CRM, or when this country was throwing Japanese people in 'internment' camps(more like concentration camps, Hitler-style) because of their nationality.

The OP proposes a point that more than likely is true. I read earlier where someone described this as "imperialism cloaked as humanitarian assistance".

[sqishy]

Agree with you in general. The Arab Spring is only getting ore dangerous and the last thing we need is the power-thirsty USA to enter. I highly doubt nukes will be used, but many more will die.

[Sir Suomi]

Thank you!

image (http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02168/asma-assad_2168255b.jpg)

I mean, look at this couple. A tie and no headscarf. This is what the Middle East needs.

Oh, so wearing a suit and tie makes you an instant good guy, regardless of my actions? Guess I'll just go rob a bank in a suit and tie and be perfectly fine.

[Yolo98]

Thank you!

image (http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02168/asma-assad_2168255b.jpg)

I mean, look at this couple. A tie and no headscarf. This is what the Middle East needs.

They are progressives , secularists , it is what the middle east needs.

[Stronk Serb]

Agreed . We should be supporting Assad so that people of Syria can live in harmony in a secular country , where minorities are not discriminated against , where woman are not oppressed. The rebels are jihadists , supporting them after Afghanistan would be hypocritical.

I agree on this if the UN weapon inspection shows that the regime forces did not use chemical weapons.

firstly grow up, no conspiracy theories please

secondly how would you like it if you was it in Syria? would you let me buy you a plane ticket and rent you a flat in Damascus? I doubt it. if we was in trouble we would expect help, stop being a hypocrite!

There is no proof even from the UN that the rebels are using chemical weapons. If you are going to believe the US after Iraq, then you must be insane.

[Nellerin]

firstly grow up, no conspiracy theories please

secondly how would you like it if you was it in Syria? would you let me buy you a plane ticket and rent you a flat in Damascus? I doubt it. if we was in trouble we would expect help, stop being a hypocrite!

Haha, you obviously do not know much. How is this a conspiracy theory?

Oh, so wearing a suit and tie makes you an instant good guy, regardless of my actions? Guess I'll just go rob a bank in a suit and tie and be perfectly fine.

Not about what he is wearing. About the fact that she is free to dress as she wants. Assad is part of a very moderate version of Islam (Alawite) whereas the rebels are extremely conservative.

[TheBigUnit]

I doubt nukes will ever start flying, we had a few close calls, but they were all bluffs.

The Syrian army shouldn't be a problem, but the US army will definetely meet its match against China, Iran, and Russia. A nuclear strike is possible, as Putin announced. (http://rt.com/news/syria-strike-nuclear-disaster-427/)

See this video on YouTube if you want to know the politically incorrect truth about the conflict in Syria.

http://youtu.be/BK0J5jgf36M




Absolutely true. One of the generals or commanded even admitted it, I believe the video is the same link I posted.

Trolol

I've seen some people posting false information regarding why we should enter Syria and "take down Assad."

I'd like to share some actual, real information as to what has been happening over there.

Based off of what the rebels have stated, they are responsible for the chemical weapons attack of August 21. Also, Russian and internal investigations led to a serious of rebel locations which housed ingredients for homemade chemical weapons.

Almost none of the rebel leaders are actually Syrian, most have come in from other countries and are part of al Qaeda.

That being said, the US has therefore been funding terrorists during the entire operation.

The US wants to enter Syria but not because of chemical weapons. Syria is a Proxy conflict which the US wants to use to get at Iran and Russia.

Iran is the last independent oil state selling oil without going through the US dollar, this has been used by China which is why China would likely attack the US if we enter Syria.

It's about money, not morals or ethics.

World War 3 is a distinct possibilities based off of how many nuclear-capable countries would be involved in the Syria conflict if the US enters.

Therefore, stay out. Enough funding and helping people that are primarily terrorists.


You are probably one of the most gullible users in this forum that being said I do agree that we shouldnt attack syria, but how do we stop the thousands of casualties that occur each day?

Haha, you obviously do not know much. How is this a conspiracy theory?



Not about what he is wearing. About the fact that she is free to dress as she wants. Assad is part of a very moderate version of Islam (Alawite) whereas the rebels are extremely conservative.

Assad is also a ruthless dictator, he was the only person in the ballot last election and refuses to give up his power

[Running420]

Yeaa thats what the US military always have been doing - tradeing civil blood for oil.. Everyone have to wake up and realize that the world and system need drastic changes ASAP

[Azunite]

Oh, so wearing a suit and tie makes you an instant good guy, regardless of my actions? Guess I'll just go rob a bank in a suit and tie and be perfectly fine.

Believe me, in these parts it is simple as that.

They are progressives , secularists , it is what the middle east needs.

Yep.

[Jean Poutine]

"Conspiracy theorist" is the (not so) new buzz term for anybody that refuses to be spoon-fed lies from the central authorities.

I assume anybody before Iraq saying they didn't have WMDs was also a conspiracy theorist.

Get over it. Governments lie and cheat on a daily basis. It's a huge game of Risk we can't even begin to dissect and understand. That's all it is for them : a game. It's the same as bankers during the 2008 crisis, they turned finance into some sort of Insane Clown Posse casino where all bets are off and so long to the people that inadvertently gave up their houses and life savings on it.

Whatever, I'm off to play some more Deus Ex.

[Luminous]

Honestly I really hope this ends up going no farther than talk.
I Syriaously doubt Obama knows what hes doing
SYRIAously? Really?

[Human]

There is no evidence of a chemical attack yet, I don't think we should attack at all but there are clearly other motives when the US politicians now fully well there is no proof, but state that there is and lie to everybody.

How are we going to remove the chemical weapons? Now they've been given time, they've probably hidden them in hospitals and schools, even if they didn't use them in the first place. We can't just bomb the chemical sites either, because we release chemicals which are harmful, there are no real plans in place, and there are no plans to get out of Syria as far as I know once they have got involved.


Trolol




You are probably one of the most gullible users in this forum that being said I do agree that we shouldnt attack syria, but how do we stop the thousands of casualties that occur each day?


Assad is also a ruthless dictator, he was the only person in the ballot last election and refuses to give up his power
For a start, you can't reduce the amount of casualties by causing more - to all sides, the US, Civilians, Rebels and the Syrian army.

He may be ruthless but he's intelligent, I don't believe he would do something as stupid as use chemical weapons days after the US condemned them. The US and the West in general can't just cherry pick countries who they don't agree with and attack them, even if they are horrible places, they need to pursue more peaceful tactics. In the case of Syria, encouraging Turkey and Iran to get involved economically and diplomatically.

[henry5331]

Obama is not the one deciding this. A plan to enter Syria has been in effect since around two weeks after 9/11, in which the US laid out a plan to take over seven Middle Eastern countries.

Wow is your tin foil hat a little too tight or something?

They are progressives , secularists , it is what the middle east needs.

If by progressive you mean murders his own people, then I guess Saddam Hussein was a progressive too. But that makes sense because the Ba'athists are Arab national socialists. People thought Hitler was a progressive too. Just sayin.

[Plasma]

I've seen some people posting false information regarding why we should enter Syria and "take down Assad."

I'd like to share some actual, real information as to what has been happening over there.

Based off of what the rebels have stated, they are responsible for the chemical weapons attack of August 21. Also, Russian and internal investigations led to a serious of rebel locations which housed ingredients for homemade chemical weapons.

Almost none of the rebel leaders are actually Syrian, most have come in from other countries and are part of al Qaeda.

That being said, the US has therefore been funding terrorists during the entire operation.

The US wants to enter Syria but not because of chemical weapons. Syria is a Proxy conflict which the US wants to use to get at Iran and Russia.

Iran is the last independent oil state selling oil without going through the US dollar, this has been used by China which is why China would likely attack the US if we enter Syria.

It's about money, not morals or ethics.

World War 3 is a distinct possibilities based off of how many nuclear-capable countries would be involved in the Syria conflict if the US enters.

Therefore, stay out. Enough funding and helping people that are primarily terrorists.

May I ask where you got this information?

[Mutah]

There was initially gray area regarding who used the chemical weapons because there were articles on the FSA claiming response for sarin gas use months prior to the accusation on Assad's government. An example from May of this year - http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/

It is obvious America is interfering in Syria's civil war for their own personal move against Russia and/or Iran, otherwise they never would have considered funding the same mentality they were fighting against in Iraq and are fighting against in Afghanistan. In the '80s, America supported the Afghan Taliban to fight off the Soviets, today many wish to support foreign Islamist militants hijacking the Syria plight in order to fight off the Iranians and Russians.

[Edgarr]

So basicly as a poor person i could have a mobile phone with a camera on it, and if i want to counless glass bottles of drinks to drink.. im also a citizen.
It is very unlikely that any spot of earth surface is not viewed from spy airbaloons. Anything happening on the surface can be visible for those who control and check these devices.



Also compare shooting to moving of the fighting unit and one quickly realizes that movement of the fighter unit recquires far more energy usually then shooting it's gun, for this one reason, a camper fighting unit if nonvisible is able to take on much more units if they are well placed and if this placement is unkown to the enemy.
This also means that they can defend against a much larger army, so attacking in such cases is very much discouraged, on the other hand if they can defend their borders such way, they might develope whatever they want and able to underground. It is just even better if u have to extract liquid fuel from underground leaving behind a cavity.. Basicly the forces dont want them to be able to do independent physical research underground or independent ai/genetically engineered higher intelligence research.

What the us military wants/allows u can decide from looking at what do they estabilish as a standard for its own citizens.

Of course they might also be dumb.. most of them.

[Stronk Serb]

Wow is your tin foil hat a little too tight or something?



If by progressive you mean murders his own people, then I guess Saddam Hussein was a progressive too. But that makes sense because the Ba'athists are Arab national socialists. People thought Hitler was a progressive too. Just sayin.

Civilian casualties happen in every war. Blaming Assad for every civilian death is stupid, the rebels are much worse, they are an unorganized extremist rabble who kill for no reason when there are no government loyalists. They could be and probably are using chemical weapons. Syrian government forces agreed to hand over it's chemical weapons to Russia and allowed UN weapon inspectors.

[Sir Suomi]

Civilian casualties happen in every war. Blaming Assad for every civilian death is stupid, the rebels are much worse, they are an unorganized extremist rabble who kill for no reason when there are no government loyalists. They could be and probably are using chemical weapons. Syrian government forces agreed to hand over it's chemical weapons to Russia and allowed UN weapon inspectors.

Oh, so you believe a man who murders innocent civilians who were protesting in a general non-violent way is innocent, just because "Civilian casualties happen every day". Boy, I guess Hitler, Stalin, and Hussein weren't that bad after all. This war started because this man refused to give rights to his citizens, and was unwilling to give up power, to the point where he'd kill men, women, and children in the streets. Although I do not support any outfit of the Syrian rebel forces, with the exception of the FSA, which do not include the extremist Islamic radicals, I sure as hell know that Assad should face War Crimes in a international court. This war was his doing, and I pray that it will be his undoing.

[henry5331]

Syrian government forces agreed to hand over it's chemical weapons to Russia and allowed UN weapon inspectors.

Yeah, we've heard that one before. Didn't end well.

[dsi411]

No! Not world war 3!

[Stronk Serb]

Oh, so you believe a man who murders innocent civilians who were protesting in a general non-violent way is innocent, just because "Civilian casualties happen every day". Boy, I guess Hitler, Stalin, and Hussein weren't that bad after all. This war started because this man refused to give rights to his citizens, and was unwilling to give up power, to the point where he'd kill men, women, and children in the streets. Although I do not support any outfit of the Syrian rebel forces, with the exception of the FSA, which do not include the extremist Islamic radicals, I sure as hell know that Assad should face War Crimes in a international court. This war was his doing, and I pray that it will be his undoing.

Give me a break, if there were massive protests in the United States asking for a completely different regime, there would be violence.

Yeah, we've heard that one before. Didn't end well.

The operation of the removal of Syria's chemical weapons stockpile is beginning in November. The rebel forces are full of Islamist extremists, including elements of the Al-Qaeda, they've looted military warehouses and they found chemical weapons. It is very common for Islamist terrorists to use chemical weapons on civilian targets.

[Loca]

I Syriaously doubt Obama knows what hes doing

Lol. I thought that we should've taken down Asaad at first but then my g'ma explained it to me. If we kill him WW3 is gonna start. I don't want that!

[TheBigUnit]

believe it or not i believe assad is better for the people over uneducated lunatics

[Sir Suomi]

Give me a break, if there were massive protests in the United States asking for a completely different regime, there would be violence.


I'm quite certain our government would not resort to killing our own civilians. You see, that's what's cool about the U.S: We can protest without any fear of being harmed by our government! Besides, I can not see America ever having to need to ask for a different regime. It'd be idiotic to switch to anything besides our current system.

[Stronk Serb]

I'm quite certain our government would not resort to killing our own civilians. You see, that's what's cool about the U.S: We can protest without any fear of being harmed by our government! Besides, I can not see America ever having to need to ask for a different regime. It'd be idiotic to switch to anything besides our current system.

Ahm

Link 1 (http://www.theguardian.com/world/blog/2011/sep/25/occupywallstreet-occupy-wall-street-protests?INTCMP=SRCH)

Link 2 (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/01/occupy-wall-street-protesters-police-brutality)

Not to mention countless communists and socialists you imprisoned during the Cold War and holding Muslims in Gauntanamo without any evidence of terrorism.